Family Feud board
JL
does it work?
JL
Zach Horan
>does it work?
>
12 panels on the old school board used from 1976-94. Someone stood or sat
behind the board and turned the answers when necessary. Ray Combs showed the
man behind the board on his version on a few occasion
JC
"Zach Horan" <zach...@aol.com> wrote
> 12 panels on the old school board used from 1976-94.
-------------------------------------------
What are the most panels that you ever recall seeing used? I think I saw
a question with 10 answers once. Don't ever remember 11 or 12 being used at
all.
John
Chris Lemon
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> What are the most panels that you ever recall seeing used? I think I
saw
> a question with 10 answers once. Don't ever remember 11 or 12 being used
at
> all.
I coulda sworn I remember seeing 11 once during the Dawson years, but I'm
relying wholly on memory for that.
Zach Horan
>a question with 10 answers once. Don't ever remember 11 or 12 being used at
>all.
I think I remember reading in here that there was at least one question using
all 12 panels. 10 I saw a few times.
CJBojangles
> relying wholly on memory for that.
There was a special "12 answer" question used during one of the Celebrity
Family Feuds with Richard Dawson. I remember it back from the old
"Celebrity Family Feud" days on GSN... i miss those days... especially since
they later started going into the Combs versions too.
But back to the question, for some reason I want to say it was one of the
later Celeb FFs with soap opera families. But don't quote me on that one...
- CJ
Randy West
But if the question in about the current Anderson/Karn board, it's not
as easily answered. The current "board" is created electronically and
is rear-projected on the set. No moving parts ;-(
Randy
tvrandywest.com
Zach Horan
>But if the question in about the current Anderson/Karn board, it's not
>as easily answered. The current "board" is created electronically and
>is rear-projected on the set. No moving parts ;-(
>
We were referring to the mechanical boards which held 12 answers. The current
computer board only holds eight answers AFAIK.
JL
"Chris Lemon" <clem...@NOSPAMattbi.com> wrote in message
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What I meant by panels was the sides it shows when it turns, one of the
panels is that digitized display. Also how does the timer just float in the
air during fast money?
Chris Lemon
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> What I meant by panels was the sides it shows when it turns, one of the
> panels is that digitized display.
It's triangular, there were two game boards (one is being loaded while the
other is being played, in those segments where more than one question is
played) and the Ferrante-Packer board that Fast Money is played on.
> Also how does the timer just float in the air during fast money?
The magic of Chromakey. :)
shyguyjl
> "JL" <jl...@mysticmobius.mysticmobius.com> wrote in message
> news:IUmw9.2045$S44...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> > What I meant by panels was the sides it shows when it turns, one of the
> > panels is that digitized display.
>
> It's triangular, there were two game boards (one is being loaded while the
> other is being played, in those segments where more than one question is
> played) and the Ferrante-Packer board that Fast Money is played on.
>
What is a Ferrante-Packer?
> > Also how does the timer just float in the air during fast money?
>
> The magic of Chromakey. :)
And what is a Chromakey?
Zach Horan
>>
>
>What is a Ferrante-Packer?
It has a black background with white or yellow electronic lettering, kind of
like something you see on roadways during road construction. That's the best I
can describe it.
Dan Sadro
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>"Chris Lemon" <clem...@NOSPAMattbi.com> wrote in message news:<JUnw9.183639$md1.42414@sccrnsc03>...
>>
>> It's triangular, there were two game boards (one is being loaded while the
>> other is being played, in those segments where more than one question is
>> played) and the Ferrante-Packer board that Fast Money is played on.
>>
>
>What is a Ferrante-Packer?
A computerised manual information readout system used in airports and on
the old Feud. The panels actually manually flipped to change from black
to yellow, and a set of thirty-five panels makes a letter.
>> > Also how does the timer just float in the air during fast money?
>>
>> The magic of Chromakey. :)
>
>And what is a Chromakey?
If you watch the weather, the weather person is standing in front of
[likely] a green screen. The green is removed and replaced with the
image of a map. Similarly, one colour (black?) was removed from the
camera shot of the clock, and the removed colour is replaced with the
rest of the screen.
--
Dan Sadro
reply: dan [@] sadro [.] com
Chris Lemon
"Zach Horan" <zach...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >What is a Ferrante-Packer?
>
> It has a black background with white or yellow electronic lettering, kind
of
> like something you see on roadways during road construction. That's the
best I
> can describe it.
Wow, Zach finally doesn't know it all. About fucking time.
The way a Ferrante-Packer board (the "light" matrix-board that the Fast
Money round is played on) works is like this: What looks like the teeny
"lights" that make up the letters are actually small discs, one side of
which are black, the other side flourescent yellow. When a "light" needs to
be turned on or off to make part of a letter, number, graphic, or whatever,
a signal is sent to an electromagnet, which causes the target disc to flip
so the necessary side is exposed. The yellow disc reflects TV light far
better and requires far less energy (none, beyond the initial pulse to flip)
to maintain than a normal light bulb. Originally they were just going to use
a regular light board for Fast Money, but they discovered the bulbs showed
up very poorly under bright TV lighting, so the Ferrante-Packer board was
developed.
As for how Chromakey works, read this:
http://www.seanet.com/Users/bradford/bluscrn.html
JL
"Dan Sadro" <sp...@sadro.com> wrote in message
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but where is the clock? the 6 digit and the 4 digit doesnt match the one on
the board
JL
Dan Sadro
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>"Dan Sadro" <sp...@sadro.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> >And what is a Chromakey?
>>
>> If you watch the weather, the weather person is standing in front of
>> [likely] a green screen. The green is removed and replaced with the
>> image of a map. Similarly, one colour (black?) was removed from the
>> camera shot of the clock, and the removed colour is replaced with the
>> rest of the screen.
>
>but where is the clock? the 6 digit and the 4 digit doesnt match the one on
>the board
Huh?
The clock was just two digits; seconds and ten-seconds. That's all they
needed.
Kathy's Guy Since 6/16/02
"Chris Lemon" <clem...@NOSPAMattbi.com> wrote in message
>
> The way a Ferrante-Packer board (the "light" matrix-board that the Fast
> Money round is played on) works is like this: What looks like the teeny
> "lights" that make up the letters are actually small discs, one side of
> which are black, the other side flourescent yellow. When a "light" needs
to
> be turned on or off to make part of a letter, number, graphic, or
whatever,
> a signal is sent to an electromagnet, which causes the target disc to flip
> so the necessary side is exposed. The yellow disc reflects TV light far
> better and requires far less energy (none, beyond the initial pulse to
flip)
> to maintain than a normal light bulb. Originally they were just going to
use
> a regular light board for Fast Money, but they discovered the bulbs showed
> up very poorly under bright TV lighting, so the Ferrante-Packer board was
> developed.
It's also used on those electronic information signs seen on highways.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
SEVaMan24
>>the board
>
>Huh?
>
>The clock was just two digits; seconds and ten-seconds. That's all they
>needed.
>
>--
He's talking about the "font" used on the clock is a more traditional egg-crate
style "6" and "4" than the funky style they used in the FP score displays.
The clock was off-stage - in a dark area where they just swung a camera around
to shoot it.
One note, they probably used what's called a luminance key (same principal as a
chroma key) where the black was removed. The also used a matte fill - where
they could assign a color (in this case white) to the key. It's how they made
the credit rolls red on SYN Joker's Wild, along with the outline feature. Just
turn a knob, and the thing being keyed can change colors.
One final note - there is no doubt that game shows made the most (and best)
used of the capabilities of early switchers.
Chris Lemon
> but where is the clock? the 6 digit and the 4 digit doesnt match the one
on
> the board
The clock they use for the CK shot is offstage someplace.
chris319
>a regular light board for Fast Money
No they weren't.
>they discovered the bulbs showed
>up very poorly under bright TV lighting
Then why do they use lamp displays all over the place on TPIR?
And get the spelling right: Ferranti Packard.
Chris Lemon
"chris319" <c319...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> No they weren't.
No? That was the story as I knew it, that they had trouble lighting it. If
you know another one, please do enlighten us. :)
> Then why do they use lamp displays all over the place on TPIR?
Good point. None of them are bare, though, they're all behind a gel of some
kind, which I imagine makes a difference.
> And get the spelling right: Ferranti Packard.
"Ferranti-Packer" is what the Display Field Guide has, but whatever. :)
chris319
>you know another one, please do enlighten us. :)
Think about it, Chris. You know that lamp displays work just fine under studio
lighting because they were designed for that very purpose. Does it really seem
plausible to you that Ted Cooper would have spent tens of thousands of dollars
building a Fast Money board with lamp readouts only to get it into the studio,
discover that there were lighting problems, then throw it out and spend tens of
thousands MORE dollars on an alternative technology?
In the mid-70s the readouts used on TPIR were not capable of a full alphanumeric
character set. You could modify a readout to display a single additional
character, usually a dollar sign but also "O", "V", "E" and "R" or "B", "U", "S"
and "T" but that was it. So the first challenge was to find a display that could
handle alphanumerics. The other challenge Ted knew about up front was that the
current draw and ensuing heat from that many lamp readouts would have been
prohibitive. Also the Ferranti-Packard displays lent themselves better to
computer control which was necessary for Fast Money. Remember this was several
years before IBM came out with its PC.
>"Ferranti-Packer" is what the Display Field Guide has, but whatever. :)
If that's the web page illustrating game show displays, there are inaccuracies
and incomplete information on it. If you do a Google search on Ferranti Packer
how many references to display component manufacturers come up?
Chris Lemon
> then throw it out and spend tens of
> thousands MORE dollars on an alternative technology?
Point well taken.
> >"Ferranti-Packer" is what the Display Field Guide has, but whatever. :)
>
> If that's the web page illustrating game show displays, there are
inaccuracies
> and incomplete information on it.
Right, I'm not suggesting it's a Bible of any sort, I just went with what
was there in my haste to get a message out.