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moxie

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Apr 5, 2004, 5:11:10 PM4/5/04
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Hey, all, did anyone else get this email? Anyone know anything about
it?

"We would like to invite you to participate in a study of fans of
Frasier. Since you participate in online chats and / or groups about
Frasier, we felt you might be interested in this project. We are two
academic professors studying TV fans' interpretation of, and
relationship to, television programs and characters.

Participation is very simple and remains anonymous. It starts with a
survey where we ask you questions about your website. The first 200
participants will be entered in a lottery for a $200 cash award.

If you are interested, follow the link to our survey, below:

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?A=23192978E4718

If you have any questions, please email us at cri...@rohan.sdsu.edu.
Thanks, in advance, for your participation in this project.

Dr. Cristel Russell, San Diego State University

and

Dr. Hope Jensen Schau, Temple University"

Mox

Kreisleriana

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Apr 5, 2004, 5:39:51 PM4/5/04
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On 5 Apr 2004 14:11:10 -0700, moxi...@aol.com (moxie) yodeled:

>Hey, all, did anyone else get this email? Anyone know anything about
>it?
>

Nope. Did you check out the link?

Theresa
alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/

Single-mindedness is all very well in cows or baboons; in an animal
claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful.
(Aldous Huxley)

manitou910

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Apr 5, 2004, 6:08:29 PM4/5/04
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moxie wrote:

> Hey, all, did anyone else get this email? Anyone know anything about
> it?

<snip>

They didn't email me, but if they did I'd tell them to do their own
research.

I never cease to be amazed at third-to-tenth-rate academics who try to
dumperate their work on others.

My Yale PhD friend has numerous such horror stories, including his Y-PhD
supervisor who blatantly stole work from one of his papers and claimed
the research as his own. My friend was so disgusted he never spoke to
the man again, ignored Christmas cards, dinner invites etc.

Then there was the former U-of-T prof who phoned him up, after he'd
commenced his career as museum curator, and asked him to dash off a
paper about something-or-other. My Y-PhD friend said he was sorely
tempted to reminded old goat that he was no longer an Art History 101
student.


C.

Kreisleriana

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Apr 6, 2004, 9:51:58 AM4/6/04
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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 22:08:29 GMT, manitou910 <manit...@rogers.com>
yodeled:

>moxie wrote:
>
>> Hey, all, did anyone else get this email? Anyone know anything about
>> it?
>
><snip>
>
>They didn't email me, but if they did I'd tell them to do their own
>research.
>

If they are doing research, they need subjects. What is your problem?

manitou910

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Apr 6, 2004, 10:03:23 AM4/6/04
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Kreisleriana wrote:
>>
>>They didn't email me, but if they did I'd tell them to do their own
>>research.
>
> If they are doing research, they need subjects. What is your problem?

Their survey is limited to about a dozen programs, and even if 2000
people responded, they couldn't possiblty gain enough information to
reach valid conclusions about anything with such limited data.

It's a classic example of a contrived, dubious-data-based 'study' which
is a waste of everyone's time.

This particular type of study is best left to federal governments who,
notwithstanding their own wide-ranging shortcomings, at least have
genuine access to vastly greater numbers of people than what these two
jerks could hope to do.


C.

Kreisleriana

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Apr 6, 2004, 10:23:18 AM4/6/04
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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:03:23 GMT, manitou910 <manit...@rogers.com>
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Federal governments? But why on earth would they? Would the Canadian
government fund such a study? I can tell you right now, the US
government never would.

Bobcat

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Apr 6, 2004, 10:26:48 AM4/6/04
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"manitou910" <manit...@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:LMycc.1365$rXB....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

Another expensive Canadian Government study, Charles? As it is, we're all
reeling at the moment from recent media coverage of senseless government
misuse of our tax bucks in Adscam. In Sam Goldwyn's words, "Include me out!"

http://tinyurl.com/2k2sa


manitou910

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Apr 6, 2004, 10:50:14 AM4/6/04
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Kreisleriana wrote:
>
> Federal governments? But why on earth would they? Would the Canadian
> government fund such a study? I can tell you right now, the US
> government never would.

Obviously you don't live in Canada.

Back in the 70s I had a government contract gig to collate/edit a study
about how Canadians spend their leisure time (watching TV, attending
live sports events, going fishing and/or camping during the summer [not
kidding...]).

All I remember after so many years is it was just about the most boring
work I ever did in my life.

Canada's federal government is probably more entertaining than most
Broadway musicals (never mind US sitcoms).

No TV show generates a reaction comparable to the latest Auditor
General's report (which just may topple our new Prime Minister, Paul
Martin); million$ of dollars spent on good-will tours by our Governor
General, Madame Adrienne Clarkson (herself a former TV personality,
celebrity interviewer, investigative journalist, and all-round culture
vulture [she was a poetry lecturer for my Yale PhD friend at U-of-T back
in the mid-60s]); or the hotel/restaurant expenses (circa $600K for the
last fiscal year) racked up by the National Gallery's current director,
Pierre Theberge (who often brings his dog to the office, even though
pets are strictly forbidden in the building).

Wanna know more......?

(I'm not at liberty to tell you about the NG's latest acquisition, but
it may generate more furor than even Barnett Newman's "Voice Of Fire" a
decade ago [by now we may have more BN works than any US museum (ditto
for Donald Judd)])


C.

manitou910

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Apr 6, 2004, 10:54:41 AM4/6/04
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Bobcat wrote:
>>
>>This particular type of study is best left to federal governments who,
>>notwithstanding their own wide-ranging shortcomings, at least have
>>genuine access to vastly greater numbers of people than what these two
>>jerks could hope to do.
>
> Another expensive Canadian Government study, Charles? As it is, we're all
> reeling at the moment from recent media coverage of senseless government
> misuse of our tax bucks in Adscam. In Sam Goldwyn's words, "Include me out!"

heehee.

See my just-posted response to T.

All I can say about the new NG acquisition is it's a pretzel-posed male
nude drawing.


C.

Kreisleriana

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Apr 6, 2004, 12:26:30 PM4/6/04
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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:50:14 GMT, manitou910 <manit...@rogers.com>
yodeled:

>Kreisleriana wrote:
>>
>> Federal governments? But why on earth would they? Would the Canadian
>> government fund such a study? I can tell you right now, the US
>> government never would.
>
>Obviously you don't live in Canada.

Well, duh. And obviously you don't live in the US. Shall we
continue?

manitou910

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Apr 6, 2004, 12:30:57 PM4/6/04
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Kreisleriana wrote:
>>
>>Obviously you don't live in Canada.
>
> Well, duh. And obviously you don't live in the US. Shall we
> continue?

Hard to believe NAFTA exists, ain't it?

There's a furor up here just now because Telefilm Canada has hired an
American agency to advise re producing Hollywood-worthy movies.

C.

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Bokman7757

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Apr 7, 2004, 1:47:35 AM4/7/04
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>From: manitou910 manit...@rogers.com

>There's a furor up here just now because Telefilm Canada has hired an
>American agency to advise re producing Hollywood-worthy movies.

Ironic, in light of recent complaints about Hollywood shooting films in Canada
(a practice which of course has been going on for years, but only noticed now
that all the other jobs have left the US.)

manitou910

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Apr 7, 2004, 2:08:42 AM4/7/04
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Not to mention the hoardes of Canadians working in Hollywood from Day One!

"90210" may have seemed the ultimate 'American' pop/trendy TV show from
the 90s, though several of the actors (not just Jay Priestley) were
Canadian, and two or three of the senior producers had been underground
theatre directors in Toronto back in the 70s.

Even Shannen Doherty has made some of her B/TV movies in Montreal.

And one of Canada's most brilliant younger film directors, Jeremy
Podeswa, is now doing stellar work in LA for "6FU" and "Carnivale" for HBO.

I gave zero problem with any of this.


C.

moxie

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Apr 7, 2004, 5:14:21 PM4/7/04
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pets...@aol.com (Marissa...Pets Rule) wrote in message news:<6f540d81.0404...@posting.google.com>...
> moxi...@aol.com (moxie) wrote in message news:<b9f9d2e2.04040...@posting.google.com>...

> > Hey, all, did anyone else get this email? Anyone know anything about
> > it?
>
> I got one. I've been told though that it's really no more than any
> other "spam". I'm assuming they got my email address off some Yahoo
> group I'm in (it wasn't this address).
>
> I don't think I'll participate.
>
> Marissa

Thanks, it sounded rather odd. I won't either. Just curious.

Mox

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