Which really happened?
an...@my-dejanews.com
to accusation of soliciting a prostitute. At the end, another scenario is
given where everything turns out fine and it was a good deed that turned
out right.
Which is true??? My husband says the first really happened. I say that the
first was his "nightmare" and it was the second that really happened.
What do you think????
Ann
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DonnaCoyne
>From: an...@my-dejanews.com
>Date: 1/8/99 6:20 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <77547a$2r3$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
>
>On the 1/7 episode, most of the show is about Frasier ending up in jail due
>to accusation of soliciting a prostitute. At the end, another scenario is
>given where everything turns out fine and it was a good deed that turned
>out right.
>
>Which is true??? My husband says the first really happened. I say that the
>first was his "nightmare" and it was the second that really happened.
>
>What do you think????
>
the ep was poorly done and hard to
understand. After debating a number
of possible scenarios, we decided that
Frasier was going to be "no more Dr.
Nice Guy", but then Freddy's question
about, "Is it wrong to help people?"
made him re-think his decision, and
go on helping people, and when he did,
it worked out OK.
Claire Abraham
>On the 1/7 episode, most of the show is about Frasier ending up in jail
due
>to accusation of soliciting a prostitute. At the end, another scenario
is
>given where everything turns out fine and it was a good deed that
turned
>out right.
>
>Which is true??? My husband says the first really happened. I say that
the
>first was his "nightmare" and it was the second that really happened.
>
>What do you think????
>
I think you are right. I also thought the episode ending was contrived
and a complete copout. What began as a clever spoof of the Eddie Murphy
thing last year devolved into something worthy of the old soap Dallas. I
hate it when dream sequences get people out of trouble.
DarbyJM
the
>first was his "nightmare" and it was the second that really happened.
>
>What do you think????
>
Claire: <<I think you are right. I also thought the episode ending was
contrived
and a complete copout. What began as a clever spoof of the Eddie Murphy
thing last year devolved into something worthy of the old soap Dallas. I
hate it when dream sequences get people out of trouble.>>
I second everything you said. Frasier would do better to rip off early Cheers
episodes than *Dallas*.
Darby
Nikki Shacklett
CZW...@prodigy.com (Claire Abraham) wrote:
>
> I think you are right. I also thought the episode ending was contrived
> and a complete copout. What began as a clever spoof of the Eddie Murphy
> thing last year devolved into something worthy of the old soap Dallas. I
> hate it when dream sequences get people out of trouble.
>
Interesting. In so many episodes, Frasier's plans and good intentions
crash down around him: the date goes horribly awry; the romantic weekend
goes horribly awry; the restaurant goes horribly awry; etc., etc. And the
viewers complain: "Why does Frasier ALWAYS have to come off looking like
a horse's ass?" This week, Frasier's good intentions, for once, don't end
in disaster. And the viewers complain. Not that complaining isn't fun!
I can't claim to be an expert on Dallas, but didn't that "dream" thing
erase an entire *season*? Because they felt they'd made a mistake by
killing off a character and wanted to bring him back? That IS contrived.
But I might hesitate to use "contrived" to describe the device used here
to illustrate Frasier's battle with his own nature: Do I do good, and
probably suffer for it, or do I adopt Dad's philosophy, "People stink!"
It's a valid theme to explore, isn't it? Not easy to do in 22 minutes.
By the way, I got a kick out of the way Frasier "dreamed" his father:
"Frasier, you're my son, I LOVE you..." not once but twice! I guess it's
been a long time since that night in the ice hut.....and Martin was drunk,
anyway.
If this were the X-Files newsgroup, there would now be 2,000 posts saying
"How the HELL did Niles call Martin from the precinct?? Martin doesn't have
a cell phone!!" Which is why I don't read the X-Files group any more. =)
Nikki
P.S. The hooker looked just like Linda Tripp. That made the whole thing
worthwhile for me!
Claire Abraham
>
>Interesting. In so many episodes, Frasier's plans and good intentions
>crash down around him: the date goes horribly awry; the romantic
weekend
>goes horribly awry; the restaurant goes horribly awry; etc., etc. And
the
>viewers complain: "Why does Frasier ALWAYS have to come off looking
like
>a horse's ass?" This week, Frasier's good intentions, for once, don't
end
>in disaster. And the viewers complain.
Grin. I rarely complain about the episodes where Frasier's plans go awry.
Does this go in the category of "You can't please everybody?"
FrasierNut
>"How the HELL did Niles call Martin from the precinct?? Martin doesn't have
>a cell phone!!"
Maybe there was a phone in the car. However, since Niles, as of late, has
been suffering in the money department, maybe there wasn't a phone in the car.
But still, it is a possibility. :)
Victoria
(# 1 DHP fan)
"I have a new rule for flying: always wear brown pants."----David Hyde Pierce
Bokman7757
was a pretty good show altogether, lots of fun moments. The best line: "I owe
my mom $50 and a pack of Schlitz." I also liked the return of the special guest
callers.
Nikki Shacklett
CZW...@prodigy.com (Claire Abraham) wrote:
Oh, too, too true!
I for one will not be truly happy this season until they give me
a knock-down, drag-out, hair-pulling, glass-breaking, eardrum-shattering,
all-the-dogs-in-the-neighborhood-barking, SWAT-team-coming-to-the-house
brawl between the Crane boys.
I have my priorities.
Nikki
DarbyJM
To me it seemed, when Frasier was telling his son what had happened and wanted
to tell him he will never do a good deed again, it downed on him, what if
instead of the prostitute, it was a lady who lived in the same building as he
was.
Do you see what I mean?>>
Interesting -- I wish I had taped the show so that I could watch it again.
But hadn't Frasier already explained to Freddy that the person was a
prostitute? And wouldn't it be more confusing to have changed his story
mid-way through like that? (although I admit it's a better story than the
other way).
Darby
D Adams
> On the 1/7 episode, most of the show is about Frasier ending up in jail due
> to accusation of soliciting a prostitute. At the end, another scenario is
> given where everything turns out fine and it was a good deed that turned
> out right.
>
> Which is true??? My husband says the first really happened. I say that the
> first was his "nightmare" and it was the second that really happened.
>
> What do you think????
Ann, thank you for posting a message about the show.
I had different impression of the ending.
To me it seemed, when Frasier was telling his son what had happened and wanted
to tell him he will never do a good deed again, it downed on him, what if
instead of the prostitute, it was a lady who lived in the same building as he
was.
Do you see what I mean?
maro
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Nikki Shacklett
frasi...@aol.com (FrasierNut) wrote:
> >If this were the X-Files newsgroup, there would now be 2,000 posts saying
> >"How the HELL did Niles call Martin from the precinct?? Martin doesn't have
> >a cell phone!!"
>
> Maybe there was a phone in the car. However, since Niles, as of late, has
> been suffering in the money department, maybe there wasn't a phone in
the car.
> But still, it is a possibility. :)
>
No, no, NO!! It was Frasier's DREAM, it doesn't have to make SENSE!!
Curse you, you bloody nit-pickers!
Nikki (Who knows Victoria was just having fun with me....CRUEL fun, but fun.)
David
news:36968F2C...@enter.net...
>
>I had different impression of the ending.
>To me it seemed, when Frasier was telling his son what had happened and
wanted
>to tell him he will never do a good deed again, it downed on him, what if
>instead of the prostitute, it was a lady who lived in the same building as
he
>was.
>Do you see what I mean?
>
Yes, but I disagree. <g>
I think it was quite obviously a daydream. For one thing, the woman he
picked up was played by a woman until she was revealed to be a man. (I
watched the west coast feed to check.)
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Joemovie
>Cheers
>episodes than *Dallas*.
and if they are going to copy a Dallas ending, go for the "Who Shot JR" story,
not the world's biggest copout story, the dream sequence, I may be 15, but I've
seen enough Dallas to know that season stunk, and thus is why they let the
dream sequence erase the entire season...
Heather Garvey
>On the 1/7 episode, most of the show is about Frasier ending up in jail due
>to accusation of soliciting a prostitute. At the end, another scenario is
>given where everything turns out fine and it was a good deed that turned
>out right.
>
>Which is true??? My husband says the first really happened. I say that the
>first was his "nightmare" and it was the second that really happened.
THe only reason people are getting confused is because they
didn't put the dootley-dootley-dootley wavvy-line-effect in.
Reality ran up until Frasier is sitting in the car debating
whether or not to pick up the woman. Reality begins again when it cuts
back to the same scene of him still sitting there, fingers steepled
thoughtfully, and he makes a decision.
The whole "picking up a prostitute" section was him making up a
possible 'worst-case' scenario in his head.
How do I know this? The 'worst-case' part ends with him realizing
that he has no good answer for his son. He can't honestly tell Freddie that
helping people is bad. And he sees that, even during the bad times, you
have to keep on keeping on. That's what it means to be moral, or generous,
or kind - doing it even when it's hard, even when you get a slap instead
of a kiss. If he drove away from that woman, he'd be giving up, and that's
not the kind of man he wants to be for Freddie.
This is not just a do-over or a "dream sequence". It's Frasier
thinking through a personal moral dilemna and reaching a moment of
inner enlightenment. The fact that we were privy to an acted version of
it, subtly inserted, is an INCREDIBLE piece of writing, that gave me
the shivers on the order of an O'Henry story.
--
Heather Garvey (ra...@xnet.com) | We who stride like giants across the
INTJ and BOFH | world and allow all the systems to
The Lady with the LART | speak, each unto the other.
http://www.xnet.com/~raven/ | -- Chad Robinson, BOFH
DonnaCoyne
>From: CZW...@prodigy.com (Claire Abraham)
>Date: 1/8/99 10:59 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <775kif$c1fo$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>
>
>>
>>On the 1/7 episode, most of the show is about Frasier ending up in jail
>due
>>to accusation of soliciting a prostitute. At the end, another scenario
>is
>>given where everything turns out fine and it was a good deed that
>turned
>>out right.
>>
>>Which is true??? My husband says the first really happened. I say that
>the
>>first was his "nightmare" and it was the second that really happened.
>>
>>
>
>I think you are right. I also thought the episode ending was contrived
>and a complete copout. What began as a clever spoof of the Eddie Murphy
>thing last year devolved into something worthy of the old soap Dallas. I
>hate it when dream sequences get people out of trouble.
>
So, *which* part of it is the dream --
the part with the hooker or the part
where he gives a lift to a harmless
neighbor? And why do you say --
or how do you know -- that *any*
part of it was a dream? Did I somehow
miss the part where they said/showed that?
DonnaCoyne
>Date: 1/8/99 12:22 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <nikki_shacklett-...@nikki.rand.org>
>
>In article <775kif$c1fo$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>,
>CZW...@prodigy.com (Claire Abraham) wrote:
>>
>P.S. The hooker looked just like Linda Tripp. That made the whole thing
> worthwhile for me!
The difference being that, in a wig and a
dress, and under dim lighting, the hooker
could actually fool somebody into mistaking
him for a woman.
Shelley
>>
>Wait a minute. I'm still confused here.
>So, *which* part of it is the dream --
>the part with the hooker or the part
>where he gives a lift to a harmless
>neighbor? And why do you say --
>or how do you know -- that *any*
>part of it was a dream? Did I somehow
>miss the part where they said/showed that?
>
There's really no question about which is the real version. The first time he
saw the woman in the rain he was clearly planning on driving off and then
decided to pick her up. Then the whole prostitution-arrest scenario. After
Frederick (who it was great to see again--that boy looks like a Crane) asks
something like, "So we shouldn't help people?" and then Frasier's suddenly in
the car I again, I'll admit that at first thought he went back to find the
hooker and talk to her for some strange reason. (?) Then when he offers her
a ride, she says, "I waved at you a couple of times but didn't think you saw
me." Frasier _says_ he was having a daydream, I think he says' unpleasant
daydream' at that. Apparently while trying to decide if doing one more good
deed was worth being kicked in the teeth again, he played out a worst-case
nightmarish scenario in his head and when he reached Frederick's question and
couldn't come up with an answer, he decided to chance it and help the wet,
stranded woman.
I think my main confusion, at first, was because that was a *long* daydream to
have while sitting at a stoplight. <g> Other than that little jolt, I enjoyed
the episode. Particularly when Freddie reached for the newspaper.
Shelley
son...@hotmail.com
DocFranken
>or how do you know -- that *any*
>part of it was a dream? Did I somehow
>miss the part where they said/showed that?
Frasier said "I'm having a bad daydeam"
Tom R
DocFranken
>
>There's really no question about which is the real version. The first time
>he
>saw the woman in the rain he was clearly planning on driving off and then
>decided to pick her up. Then the whole prostitution-arrest scenario. After
>Frederick (who it was great to see again--that boy looks like a Crane) asks
>something like, "So we shouldn't help people?" and then Frasier's suddenly in
>
>the car I again, I'll admit that at first thought he went back to find the
>hooker and talk to her for some strange reason. (?) Then when he offers her
>
>a ride, she says, "I waved at you a couple of times but didn't think you saw
>me." Frasier _says_ he was having a daydream, I think he says' unpleasant
>daydream' at that. Apparently while trying to decide if doing one more good
>deed was worth being kicked in the teeth again, he played out a worst-case
>nightmarish scenario in his head and when he reached Frederick's question and
>
>couldn't come up with an answer, he decided to chance it and help the wet,
>stranded woman.
>
>I think my main confusion, at first, was because that was a *long* daydream
>to
>have while sitting at a stoplight. <g> Other than that little jolt, I
>enjoyed
>the episode. Particularly when Freddie reached for the newspaper.
>
>Shelley
>son...@hotmail.com
>
>
This explaination makes the most sense to me! And very interesting use of an
old plot device.
Tom R.
TREES2LUV
>given where everything turns out fine and it was a good deed that turned
>out right.
Well thanks for that spoiler warning.
~~Lisa~~
(#1 KG Fan!)
"Stagger onward, rejoicing."
******
"I am tonight the mystery guest
At a dinner thrown
By my own
Decisions."
--KG
Barry Gaudet
: >There's really no question about which is the real version. The first time
: This explaination makes the most sense to me! And very interesting use of an
: old plot device.
I agree. Some have compared it to that horrible Dallas plotline. That's
really unfair. Frasier did a dream sequence in a novel and entertaining
manner.
--
-trout
'Ex EO semper aliquid novi.'
David
>
>I think my main confusion, at first, was because that was a *long* daydream
to
>have while sitting at a stoplight. <g>
Well of course just because *we* saw it acted out in real time doesn't mean
Frasier did. <g>
What may have gone through his head was something like "What if I pick her
up and she turns out to be a transvestite hooker and no one believes I was
just doing a good deed like poor, innocent Eddie Murphy? Niles would have to
come bail me out -- but wait, he doesn't have any money, so Dad would get
involved, and then Frederick would find out from the newspapers."
And then he thought, "Boy, if this wasn't my real life, but a
carefully-scripted sitcom, I bet the writers would have a field day with a
situation like this."
eun...@ugastro.berkeley.edu
I'm missing something, I think the meaning of the episode
is quite simple.
Frasier is a "Good Samaritan" whose good deeds turn on him
on several occasions i.e. when he returned alost wallet he is
accused of stealing the cash inside, when he helps a woman
put her dog in her car he isn't thanked and he ends up tearing
his favorite sport coat, and when he helps a man fix a flat he
is sued for scratching up the man's car with his cufflinks.
After all these things happen to him, he sees a woman standing
by the street in the pouring rain, waving him down. He
comtemplates what he should do and then day dreams the worst
possible scenario i.e. the "woman"turning out to be a male
prostitute and having to explain to Freddy what happened. In
his day dream, Freddy asks him if it's ok not to help someone in
distress so that youdon't risk getting involved in a possible bad
situation. Frasier can't, as a good father, tell his son to look out
for himself and don't bother with other people. So, snapping out
of his "bad daydream," to quote Frasier from the episode, he
decides to risk the possible worst case scenario and help the
woman out by picking her up, out of the rain and giving her a ride.
Frasier's faith in being a good samaritan is restored. And he could
honestly say to Freddy that being a "Good Samaritan" is a good
thing by actually practicing what he preaches. The lesson being,
"Sure, sometimes you're good deeds aren't rewarded, but you still
have to do what's right and be a Good Samaritan and help those
in need when your help is needed."
To whoever thought the day dream thing was a cop out,I think
you are missing the whole point of the episode. I think the
episode was more about doing what's right even under the toughest
of situations. It wasn't just to show Frasier go to jail. If seeing
Frasier go to jail was the show's intentions, they could have done
so in "The Seal Who Came to Dinner" when Niles and Frasier were
both arrested for Maris' murder.
eunice
D Adams
> Interesting -- I wish I had taped the show so that I could watch it again.
Me too. I have to wait for the reruns.
> But hadn't Frasier already explained to Freddy that the person was a
> prostitute? And wouldn't it be more confusing to have changed his story
> mid-way through like that? (although I admit it's a better story than the
> other way).
After reading other people's messages, I'm very confused.
However, I'm glad we have a new interesting thread.
D Adams
> Yes, but I disagree. <g>
>
> I think it was quite obviously a daydream. For one thing, the woman he
> picked up was played by a woman until she was revealed to be a man. (I
> watched the west coast feed to check.)
Thank you David. I wish I had taped it. :(
Oh, well...
DarbyJM
<<I don't understand what all the confusion is about?! Unless I'm missing
something, I think the meaning of the episode is quite simple.>>
Since I'm one of the ones who thought the episode was a cop-out, I'll respond.
Since last season, it seems that Frasier has been moving towards *appealing to
the masses* and lost most of it's subtle sense of humor.
IMO, it's been more farce and slapstick (forms of comedy which I don't enjoy as
much).
Suddenly, in the midst of all this -- you're telling us that the writers have
thrown in an episode that goes back to (and in several ways, surpassed) the
former Frasier subtlety. I, for one, got caught with whiplash!
Do I BELIEVE that the writers intended the episode the way you saw it? Do I
dare to hope that what I've loved and missed about the show has returned? Can
I raise my lowered expectations when watching future episodes of Frasier, or
will I only be disappointed?
Darby
David
>David wrote:
>
>> Yes, but I disagree. <g>
>>
>> I think it was quite obviously a daydream. For one thing, the woman he
>> picked up was played by a woman until she was revealed to be a man. (I
>> watched the west coast feed to check.)
>
>Thank you David. I wish I had taped it. :(
>Oh, well...
Well the good thing about TV today is you can count on not having to wait
too long for a rerun!
Claire Abraham
>To whoever thought the day dream thing was a cop out,I think
>
>you are missing the whole point of the episode. I think the
>
>episode was more about doing what's right even under the toughest
>
>of situations. It wasn't just to show Frasier go to jail. If seeing
>
>Frasier go to jail was the show's intentions, they could have done
>
>so in "The Seal Who Came to Dinner" when Niles and Frasier were
>
>both arrested for Maris' murder.
Oh, no, I understood it completely the first time I saw it. I still
don't think it was a particularly effective way of teaching that moral
lesson. I would really have rather that, while at the police station,
Frasier is exonerated and Crystal apologize for getting him into trouble;
in this day and age, the act of kindness is so rare as to be assumed
suspicious. Crystal or one of the cops might mention that they were glad
to know some people still genuinely cared about others - and, based on
THAT experience, Frasier decides that helping others is still a higher
aspiration that he did choose to embrace in spite of what happened to him.
The short term inconvenience is worth the long term goal. The dream
sequence is simply too tired and cliched a TV device to communicate this
as well as it might have years ago.
And I gotta tell you, I'm getting pretty tired of being criticized every
time I don't bow down to the Frasier gods and gush over how divine every
single show is. This is a much above par TV show. That's why I'm here.
It has episodes that don't work for all viewers. All shows do. And we
should be allowed to say it when something didn't work for us. Somebody
else compared this episode to O Henry. I've read O Henry. O Henry is a
favorite of mine. This is no O Henry.
TREES2LUV
You didnt tape it? For shame. :-)
LabRattus
>I think my main confusion, at first, was because that was a *long* daydream
>to
>have while sitting at a stoplight. <g> Other than that little jolt, I
>enjoyed
>the episode. Particularly when Freddie reached for the newspaper.
Yes, I experienced the same little jolt while my mind was trying to process
what happened. And aside from that, I thought it was a pretty good episode
with a lot of laughs.
[Sorry for the "late" posting on this thread, but I taped it and had to watch
it first!]
SH
LabRattus
>I think it was quite obviously a daydream. For one thing, the woman he
>picked up was played by a woman until she was revealed to be a man. (I
>watched the west coast feed to check.)
Huh? During the first closeup of the woman in his car (during the dream
sequence), I distinctly remembered thinking "Wow, she's kind of ugly up close".
I didn't think anything of it at the time, but when I examined it again,
here's what I *think* I saw:
It was Laura Hilton waving in the rain. It was Laura who got into the car
intially in the dream sequence. However, during the first closeup of the woman
in his car, and for the rest of the dream sequence, it was Crystal (the man).
When we cut back to reality, it was Laura again.
Among other differences, Crystal has a little "butt" on his chin (sorry, the
proper term for it escapes me as I write this) which is very subtle, but
visible in certain shots in the car as well as the police station, when he is
seen without the wig. Laura does not. The noses are different, too.
Does anybody who taped it and re-examined it think differently? Do my eyes
deceive me?
SH
LabRattus
>The difference being that, in a wig and a
>dress, and under dim lighting, the hooker
>could actually fool somebody into mistaking
>him for a woman.
ROFL! Thanks for a good laugh, Donna.
SH
David
news:19990110235512...@ng32.aol.com...
Well I didn't watch all that carefully -- I just glanced at the screen to
see who got into the car, and listened to the voice. I didn't check to see
if it was Laura or not.
DonnaCoyne
>Date: 1/9/99 6:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <777o0d$rdt$0...@dosa.alt.net>
>to
>>have while sitting at a stoplight. <g>
>
>carefully-scripted sitcom, I bet the writers would have a field day with a
>situation like this."
No, actually, if it happened in his *real*
life, the writers would have a field day
with it even more!
DonnaCoyne
>From: dar...@aol.com (DarbyJM)
>Date: 1/9/99 2:47 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <19990109174709...@ng14.aol.com>
>
>Do I BELIEVE that the writers intended the episode the way you saw it? Do I
>dare to hope that what I've loved and missed about the show has returned?
>Can
>I raise my lowered expectations when watching future episodes of Frasier, or
>will I only be disappointed?
>
>Darby
So, what are you saying, Darby?
That believing in people is a *bad* thing?
DarbyJM
<<So, what are you saying, Darby?
That believing in people is a *bad* thing?
>>
No -- I wasn't talking about the content of the episode, but the level of
writing. Until this episode, it seemed as if Frasier had been (I'm not taking
time to find a better way of phrasing it) *dumbed down* for the masses. It
wasn't the Frasier that I knew and loved -- it was almost a poor parody of
itself.
THIS episode, if interpreted in the way that the poster interpreted it -- was
written well above the current style (from a subtlety perspective). I could
get used to, and enjoy this new *style* -- but not if it goes back to *The
Three Stooges, er, Cranes*. In which case this VERY GOOD episode (if
interpreted in that way) has been nothing more than a tease!
Which explanation probably confused you more than re-reading my original post
would have! :-)
Darby
DonnaCoyne
>Message-id: <19990111182455...@ng102.aol.com>
>
>Donna:
><<So, what are you saying, Darby?
>That believing in people is a *bad* thing?
>>>
>
>No -- I wasn't talking about the content of the episode, but the level of
>writing.
[snip]
>Which explanation probably confused you more than re-reading my original post
>would have! :-)
>
Yeah, it sorta did, actually. I was taking off
on Freddy's question (or dream question),
where he says,
"So what are you saying, Dad? That helping
people is a *bad* thing?'
Now I'm all confused; I must lie down and
eat chocolate until I'm feeling better.
DarbyJM
<<Now I'm all confused; I must lie down and
eat chocolate until I'm feeling better.>>
Now THAT I can understand and am in TOTAL agreement with! <BG>
(I like the dark chocolates).
Darby
Ron Vale
My Son works at Mars.. FREE Chocolate, until it comes out our ears!!!!!
Ron Currently 25 stone
DarbyJM
COOL! Want to stand in the pool and play fountain at my next party? ;)
Darby
Ron Vale
Send me the fare, and i'll be over.
But where are you?
Ron
DarbyJM
Ron:
<<Send me the fare, and i'll be over.
But where are you?>>
Pittsburgh, PA, USA
which is probably the home of the person who dreamed up "America's Funniest
Home Videos" (or, how many stupid people will allow themselves to get hit in
the crotch to appear on national TV?).
However, if I'm going to pay your fare -- I think I should know if you have any
other talents!
;)
Darby
Ron Vale
Went through it in 1974
Must get back soon
Ron
Darby.
They are many and varied, can do reasonable impressions vocally, but
cant sign or dance. Have a wonderful English accent, that drives women
in you part of the world wild.
Its that good, people think im from Australia!!!!
I just point out to them that thats where we sent all of our criminal
classes, and when it was full up we sent them to the USA
Quickly gets out of room as fight starts..........
Ron (TVFIC)
only 30 more working days until i retire (at a very ealy age!!)
DonnaCoyne
>Message-id: <19990113093618...@ng141.aol.com>
>
>Donna:
><<Now I'm all confused; I must lie down and
>eat chocolate until I'm feeling better.>>
>
>Now THAT I can understand and am in TOTAL agreement with! <BG>
>
>(I like the dark chocolates).
>
daintily while reclining on my fainting couch.
DonnaCoyne
>Message-id: <19990113104201...@ng143.aol.com>
>
><snipped on-going chocolate conversation>
>
>Ron:
><<Send me the fare, and i'll be over.
>
>But where are you?>>
>
>Pittsburgh, PA, USA
>
a/k/a "The Land of Chocolate"?
Coincidence? I think not!
DarbyJM
<<Hmm . . . Isn't that right near Hershey, PA,
a/k/a "The Land of Chocolate"?
Coincidence? I think not!
>>
LOL! Too true -- although the *real* tour through the factory was replaced
with a virtual tour, many years ago.
Besides, I quickly went from Hershey to Nestle (better, IMO) and from there to
Godiva. ::sigh:: Truffles ::sigh::
Oh -- wait -- I think I'd like a little privacy now!
(as in -- forget the fainting couch -- I want that chair that Frasier bought
for his father!)
Darby
TREES2LUV
>for his father!)
Ah! *The* chair. >:-Ş