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Ubiquitous
Nov 2, 2021, 10:25:31 AM11/2/21
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memy...@null.net wrote:
>On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 10:55:50 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>If firefly hadn’t been a Joss Whedon show I never would have watched any
>>episode that had one of those stupid narration openings about finding a
>>whole galaxy of new earths.
>
>Oh, and they never said they "found" a whole galaxy of new earths. The
>voice over says they terraformed planets to make them earth-like.
That's what I remember as well, but I thought all the new Earths were in our
Solar System, which made no sense.
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>On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 10:55:50 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>If firefly hadn’t been a Joss Whedon show I never would have watched any
>>episode that had one of those stupid narration openings about finding a
>>whole galaxy of new earths.
>
>Oh, and they never said they "found" a whole galaxy of new earths. The
>voice over says they terraformed planets to make them earth-like.
That's what I remember as well, but I thought all the new Earths were in our
Solar System, which made no sense.
--
Let's go Brandon!
anim8rfsk
Nov 2, 2021, 12:50:36 PM11/2/21
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could even terraform astroids. They could terraform earths moon. And I see
no reason they couldn’t terraform earth and reset it.
But no, they spent hundreds of years going someplace else they found
accidentally.
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Ubiquitous
Nov 3, 2021, 9:09:43 AM11/3/21
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memy...@null.net wrote:
>>Each is offensively stupid.
>>I paraphrased them all into one burning onion of rancid stupidity,
>>reversing the usual process.
>>They have terraforming technology so powerful they can make any rock of any
>>size at any distance from the primary into class M? Then why the hell did
>>they have to leave Sol system?
>>The reruns were using one standardized version for a while (And sometimes
>>none) but now the ones available on the streamers have the variations:
>>
>>Mal1 : Here’s how it is: Earth got used up, so we terraformed a whole new
>>galaxy of Earths, some rich and flush with the new technologies, some not
>>so much. Central Planets, them was formed the Alliance, waged war to bring
>>everyone under their rule; a few idiots tried to fight it, among them
>>myself. I'm Malcolm Reynolds, captain of Serenity. Got a good crew:
>>fighters, pilot, mechanic. We even picked up a preacher, and a bona fide
>>companion. There's a doctor, too, took his genius sister out of some
>>Alliance camp, so they're keeping a low profile. You got a job, we can do
>>it, don't much care what it is.
>>
>>Mal2 : Here's how it is: The Earth got used up, so we moved out and
>>terraformed a whole new galaxy of Earths, some rich and flush with the new
>>technologies, some not so much. The Central Planets, them was formed the
>>Alliance, waged war to bring everyone under their rule; a few idiots tried
>>to fight it, among them myself. I'm Malcolm Reynolds, captain of Serenity.
>>Shes a transport ship, Firefly class. Got a good crew: fighters, pilot,
>>mechanic. We even picked up a preacher for some reason, and a bona fide
>>companion. There's a doctor too, took his genius sister out of some
>>Alliance camp, so they're keeping a low profile, you understand. You got a
>>job, we can do it, don't much care what it is.
>>
>>Book : After the Earth was used up, we found a new solar system and
>>hundreds of new Earths were terra formed and colonized. The central planets
>>formed the Alliance and decided all the planets had to join under their
>>rule. There was some disagreement on that point. After the War, many of the
>>Independents who had fought and lost drifted to the edges of the system,
>>far from Alliance control. Out here, people struggled to get by with the
>>most basic technologies; a ship would bring you work, a gun would help you
>>keep it. A captain's goal was simple: find a crew, find a job, keep flying.
>
>That's interesting. I didnt remember different cold openings. Its
>extremely brief voice over in the current versions I watched on Hulu. I'll
>have to get my DVDs out and see if they're any different.
>
>You mention "terraform" reasoning in all three and that's a staple in a lot
>of sci-fi so it never bothered me. Remember they're talking about the
>galaxy not solar systems. Given their proximity to the sun, Mars and Venus
>would be the only ones in our own system that could likely support humans
>
>As you say, the FTL question is another thing all-together. They'd
>definitely need that if talking about the whole galaxy. If the series had
>gone on, maybe they would have explained it more. Firefly was space opera
>anyway, not hard science fiction. They definitely didnt get bogged down by
>the technobabble of shows like Star Trek.
I assumed the "galaxy of new earths" was embellishment or hyperbole, but it
doesn't answer how so many Earth-like planets came to exist in the Solar System.
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 06:02:51 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>> EGK <memy...@null.net> wrote:
>>> Oh, and they never said they "found" a whole galaxy of new earths. The
>>> voice over says they terraformed planets to make them earth-like.
>>
>>Reddit says there are three versions of the opening (I thought they were four)
>> EGK <memy...@null.net> wrote:
>>> Oh, and they never said they "found" a whole galaxy of new earths. The
>>> voice over says they terraformed planets to make them earth-like.
>>
>>Each is offensively stupid.
>>I paraphrased them all into one burning onion of rancid stupidity,
>>reversing the usual process.
>>They have terraforming technology so powerful they can make any rock of any
>>size at any distance from the primary into class M? Then why the hell did
>>they have to leave Sol system?
>>The reruns were using one standardized version for a while (And sometimes
>>none) but now the ones available on the streamers have the variations:
>>
>>Mal1 : Here’s how it is: Earth got used up, so we terraformed a whole new
>>galaxy of Earths, some rich and flush with the new technologies, some not
>>so much. Central Planets, them was formed the Alliance, waged war to bring
>>everyone under their rule; a few idiots tried to fight it, among them
>>myself. I'm Malcolm Reynolds, captain of Serenity. Got a good crew:
>>fighters, pilot, mechanic. We even picked up a preacher, and a bona fide
>>companion. There's a doctor, too, took his genius sister out of some
>>Alliance camp, so they're keeping a low profile. You got a job, we can do
>>it, don't much care what it is.
>>
>>Mal2 : Here's how it is: The Earth got used up, so we moved out and
>>terraformed a whole new galaxy of Earths, some rich and flush with the new
>>technologies, some not so much. The Central Planets, them was formed the
>>Alliance, waged war to bring everyone under their rule; a few idiots tried
>>to fight it, among them myself. I'm Malcolm Reynolds, captain of Serenity.
>>Shes a transport ship, Firefly class. Got a good crew: fighters, pilot,
>>mechanic. We even picked up a preacher for some reason, and a bona fide
>>companion. There's a doctor too, took his genius sister out of some
>>Alliance camp, so they're keeping a low profile, you understand. You got a
>>job, we can do it, don't much care what it is.
>>
>>Book : After the Earth was used up, we found a new solar system and
>>hundreds of new Earths were terra formed and colonized. The central planets
>>formed the Alliance and decided all the planets had to join under their
>>rule. There was some disagreement on that point. After the War, many of the
>>Independents who had fought and lost drifted to the edges of the system,
>>far from Alliance control. Out here, people struggled to get by with the
>>most basic technologies; a ship would bring you work, a gun would help you
>>keep it. A captain's goal was simple: find a crew, find a job, keep flying.
>
>That's interesting. I didnt remember different cold openings. Its
>extremely brief voice over in the current versions I watched on Hulu. I'll
>have to get my DVDs out and see if they're any different.
>
>You mention "terraform" reasoning in all three and that's a staple in a lot
>of sci-fi so it never bothered me. Remember they're talking about the
>galaxy not solar systems. Given their proximity to the sun, Mars and Venus
>would be the only ones in our own system that could likely support humans
>
>As you say, the FTL question is another thing all-together. They'd
>definitely need that if talking about the whole galaxy. If the series had
>gone on, maybe they would have explained it more. Firefly was space opera
>anyway, not hard science fiction. They definitely didnt get bogged down by
>the technobabble of shows like Star Trek.
I assumed the "galaxy of new earths" was embellishment or hyperbole, but it
doesn't answer how so many Earth-like planets came to exist in the Solar System.
Wouter Valentijn
Nov 13, 2021, 10:28:55 AM11/13/21
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Op 2-11-2021 om 15:25 schreef Ubiquitous:
Not *our* solar system with Earth etc.
A fan site says this:
https://firefly.fandom.com/wiki/The_Verse
--
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Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
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A fan site says this:
https://firefly.fandom.com/wiki/The_Verse
--
Wouter Valentijn
Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
http://www.essayportal.j3v.net
liam=mail
anim8rfsk
Nov 13, 2021, 7:42:11 PM11/13/21
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Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
> Op 2-11-2021 om 15:25 schreef Ubiquitous:
>> memy...@null.net wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 10:55:50 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> If firefly hadn�t been a Joss Whedon show I never would have watched any
>>>> episode that had one of those stupid narration openings about finding a
>>>> whole galaxy of new earths.
>>>
>>> Oh, and they never said they "found" a whole galaxy of new earths. The
>>> voice over says they terraformed planets to make them earth-like.
>>
>> That's what I remember as well, but I thought all the new Earths were in our
>> Solar System, which made no sense.
>>
>
>
> Not *our* solar system with Earth etc.
>
> A fan site says this:
>
> https://firefly.fandom.com/wiki/The_Verse
>
>
>
>
That’s… Complicated.
> Op 2-11-2021 om 15:25 schreef Ubiquitous:
>> memy...@null.net wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 10:55:50 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> If firefly hadn�t been a Joss Whedon show I never would have watched any
>>>> episode that had one of those stupid narration openings about finding a
>>>> whole galaxy of new earths.
>>>
>>> Oh, and they never said they "found" a whole galaxy of new earths. The
>>> voice over says they terraformed planets to make them earth-like.
>>
>> That's what I remember as well, but I thought all the new Earths were in our
>> Solar System, which made no sense.
>>
>
>
> Not *our* solar system with Earth etc.
>
> A fan site says this:
>
> https://firefly.fandom.com/wiki/The_Verse
>
>
>
>
Thanks!
Dimensional Traveler
Nov 13, 2021, 10:15:48 PM11/13/21
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I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.
Wouter Valentijn
Nov 14, 2021, 7:36:39 AM11/14/21
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Op 14-11-2021 om 01:42 schreef anim8rfsk:
You're welcome!
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