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Poohgp

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May 22, 2002, 11:59:52 PM5/22/02
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Help! I am so confused....I thought it was established that Elena had
died before Felicity went "back in time"...but she was alive when
Felicity "returned"? Or did she dream that, too? But I thought they
were at Elena's funeral before she went to Noel's wedding?

Someone please help me! Thanks!

angelo panetta

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May 23, 2002, 12:06:22 AM5/23/02
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Poohgp wrote:

Yeah Elena was killed in a car accident before the time travel. Oops!

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BK2FTR

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May 23, 2002, 12:29:51 AM5/23/02
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Elena was not killed before the time travel -- she was killed in the opening
moments of the same time travel episode. She dreamed that too.

I was taken aback too but realized that it was part of the dream.

looneybird

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May 23, 2002, 12:42:44 AM5/23/02
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Then, why wouldn't it occur to her that she'd be "un-doing" Elena's death as
well as Noel's when she and the guy were doing the spell? She mentioned
Elena in the past tense, so she didn't seem to realize that Elena's death
was also part of the altered present.


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Ji7nx1

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May 23, 2002, 2:21:32 AM5/23/02
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>She mentioned
>Elena in the past tense, so she didn't seem to realize that Elena's death
>was also part of the altered present.
>
>

i guess the guy who was doing the spell did something to make elena still
alive. whatever it was i just wish they had acknowledged it instead of just
showing it to us. it was still a good ending though.

amanda

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May 23, 2002, 10:06:49 AM5/23/02
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BK2FTR <bk2...@aol.com> wrote in message
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she most certainly WAS dead -
that's why felicity became distant towards ben - why ben cheated with
claire -
which is partly why she went on to get so drunk that night when she was
"sick"...

i am very disappointed by this one glitch in an otherwise satisfying finale.


Brad

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May 23, 2002, 11:07:31 AM5/23/02
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Two Points:

1) See my post, "A Possible explanation" were I point out that the
information we were given regarding Elena et al, was giving as part of
a recording she was making within the dream sequence. Hence, if it
was a dream, nothing given in that dream sequence can be taken as
fact. Indeed the rift betweem Ben and Feleicity itself may have been
due to other reasons since we only learn of the affair as part of the
same tape recording.

2) TV Guide article pointed out by another person on this site says
that there were scenes that were cut which explain Elena's
resurrection.


-Brad

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Lora

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May 23, 2002, 12:11:09 PM5/23/02
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> "BK2FTR" <bk2...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20020523002951...@mb-dh.aol.com...
> > Elena was not killed before the time travel -- she was killed in the
> opening
> > moments of the same time travel episode. She dreamed that too.
> >
> > I was taken aback too but realized that it was part of the dream.


I thought of this too, but then that means that the last episode of
"real" stuff was the graduation episode where Ben followed Felicity.
So then everything after that would be a dream. So why was Ben
apologizing to felicity? The Claire thing was part of the dream too.
Maybe he did something else to upset her? Or maybe that really
happened and she dreamed about it later. I know I sometimes dream
about things that really happened. Arg! This is too confusing.

Judy

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May 23, 2002, 2:20:22 PM5/23/02
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poo...@aol.com (Poohgp) wrote in message news:<fd3e5b52.02052...@posting.google.com>...

I am pretty sure that Elen'a funeral was 6 months before the wedding.
In the winter and the wedding was in the Spring. Felicity said
something about how it all changed between her and Ben after the
funeral, and that several months had passed, that was when he cheated
with Clair. I really wished they had done something better with this.
Will there be new episodes in the Fall on WE or just reruns?

Matt Garretson

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May 24, 2002, 8:32:28 AM5/24/02
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I just posted this in another thread, but the official web site
had this to say about that part of the finale:


[...]

At the wedding, Felicity is ecstatically surprised when Elena
and Tracy walk in. Thanks to Felicity's note, Elena attended
Duke where she not only avoided the fated accident, but also
rekindled her engagement to Tracy.

[...]


Poohgp

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May 24, 2002, 5:05:21 PM5/24/02
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OK, smart me finally checked the "Felicity" website; according to
that, after the spell was undone and before Felicity went to bed, she
told Elena to go to Duke University, instead of Columbia (which is
where Elena was going when she died in the car accident). So that
would mean that maybe it wasn't a dream, and she really DID go back in
time??


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Jorabi

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May 24, 2002, 7:32:47 PM5/24/02
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"Poohgp" wrote ...

> OK, smart me finally checked the "Felicity" website; according to
> that, after the spell was undone and before Felicity went to bed, she
> told Elena to go to Duke University, instead of Columbia (which is
> where Elena was going when she died in the car accident). So that
> would mean that maybe it wasn't a dream, and she really DID go back in
> time??

Then Noel has to be dead too. We can't have it both ways!

If the explanation was cut from the episode for time, why
don't JJ and Matt explain exactly what happened in a way
that makes sense? Maybe they should post the script or
the clips that were cut. Or maybe on the future DVD set?

hotpinkdrv

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May 25, 2002, 5:44:20 PM5/25/02
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Hi, I'm new but I've been reaading this ng for about 2 years now. I'm
so sad to see the show go. I actually loved the finale. The whole
Elena situation has me scratching my head as well. When I think I
finally understand it, I read another post and realize that I don't.
If it wasn't a dream and Felicity changed the past, does anyone but
her remember, it was their past, too. That's the main thing that gets
me.
Anyway, I decided to finally post because Jorabi mentioned "the future
DVD set". Is this a for sure thing? because if so, I'd be so happy.
I don't get the WE channel and probably won't be able to by next fall
so I can't tape all the episodes. Please give me any details on a DVD
set if there is really going to be one. Thanks!


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Jorabi

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May 25, 2002, 7:31:59 PM5/25/02
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Sorry, there is nothing concrete that I know of about a
DVD set. But there have been many posts asking for the
producers to release it and in an online chat, JJ Abrams
said he would love to see it and that we should write to
Disney/Touchstone if you want them to release a set. Many
worse series with less of a following have come out, so I
don't see a reason why they wouldn't do it.

"hotpinkdrv" wrote ...


>
> Hi, I'm new but I've been reaading this ng for about 2 years now. I'm
> so sad to see the show go. I actually loved the finale. The whole
> Elena situation has me scratching my head as well. When I think I
> finally understand it, I read another post and realize that I don't.
> If it wasn't a dream and Felicity changed the past, does anyone but
> her remember, it was their past, too. That's the main thing that gets
> me.
> Anyway, I decided to finally post because Jorabi mentioned "the future
> DVD set". Is this a for sure thing? because if so, I'd be so happy.
> I don't get the WE channel and probably won't be able to by next fall
> so I can't tape all the episodes. Please give me any details on a DVD
> set if there is really going to be one. Thanks!
>
>

> "Jorabi" wrote ...

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