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Michael

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Mar 1, 2004, 10:06:09 PM3/1/04
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Often Battalion Chief 14 was called in for large incidents on the show, and
Station 10 in the pilot was also the home of this chief (was it ever said
what station he came from after that, when Station 10 was called by its
proper number, Station 8?) I noticed on this page
http://firefightersrealstories.com/lalocations.html that 8 is part of
Battalion 1 at this time and 127 (51 on the show) is not in 14 either. So
why Battalion 14? Was 8 or 127 in 14 at the time? What stations were
supposedly in Battalion 14 on the show?

Funny story, I was watching Emergency! with my 4 year old son and he said
"Where's the French chief?" "What?" I said. "That's the Italian chief,
where's the French chief?" he asked. I laughed before I explained that it
was a *Battalion* chief.

"Thank you, Control, KED-435 clear."


moss@tellus.net Paul Keenleyside

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Mar 1, 2004, 11:04:16 PM3/1/04
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"Michael" <stg...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Often Battalion Chief 14 was called in for large incidents on the show,
and
> Station 10 in the pilot was also the home of this chief (was it ever said
> what station he came from after that, when Station 10 was called by its
> proper number, Station 8?) I noticed on this page
> http://firefightersrealstories.com/lalocations.html that 8 is part of
> Battalion 1 at this time and 127 (51 on the show) is not in 14 either. So
> why Battalion 14? Was 8 or 127 in 14 at the time? What stations were
> supposedly in Battalion 14 on the show?

L.A. County Fire has undergone expansion since Emergency! (additonal
localities contracting out to L.A. County Fire for
fire services). Station 8 (Station 10 in the pilot, but Station 8 when John
went on duty there for a time) was at one time a
Battalion Chief's station, but Station 7 is now where Battalion 1 is
located.

Bn. 1 takes in Stations 8, 38, 51, 58 and 110. (Bn. Chief office at Station
7)

Bn. 14 takes in Stations 2, 6, 53, 55, 56, 83, 106, 155. (Bn. Chief office
at Station 106)

Bn. 7 takes in Stations 10, 36, 95, 105, 116, and 127 (Bn. Chief at Station
10).

Battalion 14 may have come from when the producers originally thought they
would be using Station 106. Battalion 14
is stationed at Station 106 which is located in the Rolling Hills area. They
decided to use Station 127 instead since it
has a south exposure that allowed for better shooting conditions than
Station 106.

Bn. 14 could have taken in 127 at the time of Emergency! but that would need
to be checked out.

In Emergency!, Battalion 14 was called in to almost every major
multi-station call out. Stations were Station 98, 127,
114, etc.

The coloured map you see on the opposite wall in the Call Room at Rampart
(next to Dixie's station) is an L.A. County
Fire map showing battalion districts and staiton locations on it. Saw a real
one once.

>
> Funny story, I was watching Emergency! with my 4 year old son and he said
> "Where's the French chief?" "What?" I said. "That's the Italian chief,
> where's the French chief?" he asked. I laughed before I explained that it
> was a *Battalion* chief.

Pretty funny!


>
> "Thank you, Control, KED-435 clear."

Acknowledged KED435.

Burnaby 51 Clear KMG941.
Time twenty zero four.
>


llump41

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Mar 2, 2004, 12:22:35 AM3/2/04
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I was under the impression that at the time of Emergency there was no B14.
There were only 13 battalions. But my memory may have fadded with time(30
years)


NRobin1027

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Mar 2, 2004, 12:30:32 AM3/2/04
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>I was under the impression that at the time of Emergency there was no B14.
>There were only 13 battalions. But my memory may have fadded with time(30
>years)

There was no B14 at the time of E!, that's true:)

Robin:)
NRobin1027

firechief

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Mar 2, 2004, 2:43:29 AM3/2/04
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Michael wrote:

> Often Battalion Chief 14 was called in for large incidents on the show,
and
> Station 10 in the pilot was also the home of this chief (was it ever said
> what station he came from after that, when Station 10 was called by its
> proper number, Station 8?) I noticed on this page
> http://firefightersrealstories.com/lalocations.html that 8 is part of
> Battalion 1 at this time and 127 (51 on the show) is not in 14 either. So
> why Battalion 14? Was 8 or 127 in 14 at the time? What stations were
> supposedly in Battalion 14 on the show?


This information was published just after Emergency began on TV.
There was no Battalion 14 at that time, just as there was no Engine 51.
Both were fictitious entities, probably to prevent fans of the program
from causing traffic and pedestrian congestion at a real station.

(There are photos from Emergency included in the book.)

THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY FIREMEN'S BENEFIT & WELFARE
ASSOCIATION, INC. PRESENTS

THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT - 1975

COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES FIRE DEPARTMENT - Organization
Richard H. Houts
Forester & Fire Warden
and Chief Engineer
Fire Protection Districts
1974

DIVISION 1 BATTALIONS 1 - 7

DIVISION 2 BATTALIONS 2 - 12

DIVISION 3 BATTALIONS 5 - 6 - 11

DIVISION 4 BATTALIONS 9 - 13

DIVISION 5 BATTALIONS 4 - 10

DIVISION 6 BATTALIONS 3 - 8

David Epling

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Mar 2, 2004, 9:59:51 PM3/2/04
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It is something Hollywood does to avoid distinction with real units...Look
at NYPD Blue, and Third Watch...the 15th and the 55th are not real
precincts.


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djgonzales

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Mar 3, 2004, 12:19:32 AM3/3/04
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I'm pretty sure you're right. No B14 during the time of Emergency!

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moss@tellus.net Paul Keenleyside

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> I'm pretty sure you're right. No B14 during the time of Emergency!

There wasn't? Well raise my rent.

More than likely the producers used "Battalion 14" in much the same way that
"Station 51" was used.
Neither existed in L.A. County Fire at the time. Art Ballinger who played
the first Battalion 14 chief
was a real Battalion Chief. Wonder what Battalion he was in charge of?


firechief

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Mar 9, 2004, 3:23:18 AM3/9/04
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DJ wrote following Paul:


> More than likely the producers used "Battalion 14" in much the same way
that
> "Station 51" was used.
> Neither existed in L.A. County Fire at the time. Art Ballinger who played
> the first Battalion 14 chief was a real Battalion Chief. Wonder what
> Battalion he was in charge of?


From the 1975 LACoFD yearbook, with statistics fhrough 1974.

Chief Engineer Richard H. Houts
Chief Deputy Stanley E. Barlow

Division Chief Bob D. SImpson - Administrative Division
Division Asst. Chief Donald Fry - Administration Division
Battalion Chief Earl Fordham - Training
Battalion Chief James Enright - Staff Services
Battalion Chief Pete Pederson - Fire Protection Planning
Battalion Chief Gerald White - Emergency Data Management

Division Chief Ben E. Mathews - Operations
Division Asst. Chief Donald Beckman - Division IV
Division Asst. Chief Ray Brunstorm - Division VI
Division Asst. Chief Ronald W. King - Division II
Division Asst. Chief Nino Polito - Division V
Division Asst. Chief Paul P. Schneider - Division I
Division Asst. Chief Ben F. Semour - Division III


Division Chief Clyde C. Bragdon


Division Chief George C. Collins - Fire Prevention Bureau
Division Asst. Chief Thomas J. Rehm -
Duvison Asst. Chief Robert Hanson


Division Asst. Chief Robert R. Ballentine - Construction and Maintenance
forestry camp, mapping, engineering

Division Asst. Chief Dean E. Russell - Communications and Automotive
Section

Battalion Chief Leon D. Bodnar Battalion Chief Donald
Borthwick Battalion Chief Arthur Clensay
Battalion Chief James Craycroft Battalion Chief Robert Curtis
Battalion Chief Orville Dame
Battalion Chief Paul Delaney Battalion Chief George Demos
Battalion Chief Jim D. Dunlap
Battalion Chief Rudy Duran Battalion Chief John W.
Endlund Battalion Chief Jim Enright
Battalion Chief Gerald T. Fagan Battalion Chief Earl Fordham
Battalion Chief Guy Goodwin
Battalion Chief Charles L. Hambleton Battalion Chief Robert Hanson
Battalion Chief Harry W. Harlow, Jr.
Battalion Chief George Harms Battalion Chief James H.
Heywood Battalion Chief Jack D. Hinton
Battalion Chief Jack H. Jensen Battalion Chief Robert C.
Lewis Battalion Chief Darryl L. Lockhart
Battalion Chief Hubert T. Lynch Battalion Chief Robert D.
Messall Battalion Chief Fredrick G. Morton, Jr.
Battalion Chief Jack B. Munger Battalion Chief Jack F.
McNicoll Battalion Chief Don G. Oldham
Battalion Chief Peter C. Pederson Battalion Chief Reginald R.
Perkins Battalion Chief George Rumage
Battalion Chief Robert Sarno Battalion Chief Rene Rigaud
Battalion Chief Joseph Rotella
Battalion Chief Ray Shackelford Battalion Chief Frank C. Shaw
Battalion Chief John D. Snavely
Battalion Chief Charles Sparks Battalion Chief Edward C.
Spruill, Jr. Battalion Chief George Taylor
Battalion Chief Charles Wells Battalion Chief Joseph F.
Werner Battalion Chief Augustus Whisnand
Battalion Chief Gerald M. White Battalion Chief William L.
White Battalion Chief Lorn A. Wilke
Battalion Chief John A. Yodder Battalion Chief Frank G.
Zalaha

CAPTAINS

Kenneth M. Abrams William G. Adams James L. Adamson
Bobby Alexander Carl D. Allen
Joseph D. Ankerberg Roy Atkinson William R. Baker
Theodore A. Ball Ross H. Barb
Richard R. Barbarino Thomas R. Barbre George F. Bardwell
David M. Baumann William J. Beinbrech
Robert H. Beliveau David E. Baisley Donald H.
Berry Frank Bianchetti Ralph Beinhoff
Stanley C. Bixler Robert P. Blackburn Andrew S.
Blair, Jr. W. Brent Bogdanski Ralph J. Bommelje
George A. Bonney David Boucher Joseph C. Bower
Everette G. Bowles Kenneth A. Boyd
Donald W. Bright Edward J. Brooks David F. Brown
David L. Brown David M. Brown
Elvah Brown Gordon T. Brown Leland O.
Brown Tom B. Brown Angelo G. Brunelli
Thomas Bryan John A. Burden James A.
Buchanan Jerry D. Burgress Robert L. Burkhardt
Lyle D. Burkhart Frank G. Burton Jack I.
Butler
and 26 more pages in alphabetical order.

No Art Ballinger is listed as Fireman Specialists, Fire Fighter,
Fire Control Laborer, Chaplain, Air Officer, Pilot, Forester,

No Art Ballinger is in the "retired" section

BUT........Division Asst. Chief Seymour is on page 60 and
Battalion Chief Bodnar is on page 61. It is odd that "Bodnar"
is the first BC in an alphabetical list.....no A's and nothing
before "Bo".

I think it's possible the printer dropped half a dozen photos
and names.

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