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kyonshi
Jan 13, 2023, 8:39:01 AM1/13/23
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https://www.polygon.com/23548342/dungeons-dragons-dnd-paramount-plus-tv-series
The Dungeons & Dragons TV show from the director of Red Notice is really
happening
Paramount Plus orders 8 episodes
By Nicole Carpenter
Dungeons & Dragons will be adapted for television in a collaboration
between Paramount Plus and Hasbro studio eOne, led by Red Notice
director Rawson Marshall Thurber, according to a report from Deadline.
The eOne studio, owned by Hasbro to create film and TV adaptations of
its many properties, confirmed last February that the show was in early
development.
Deadline said eOne shopped the show around in November and received
interest from “multiple buyers,” but landed on Paramount Plus after “a
competitive situation.” The two companies will partner to create the
show; Thurber wrote the pilot and will direct the first episode. The
partnership makes sense, as eOne and Paramount Pictures co-produced
Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves, the feature film set to
premiere March 31, directed by Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley.
The live-action Dungeons and Dragons Paramount Plus show could be eOne’s
“largest-scope TV project ever,” Deadline said, with the potential to
kick off a Dungeons and Dragons universe with “scripted and unscripted
shows.”
Indeed, Hasbro and Wizards of the Coast have spoken before about
bringing the D&D franchise to TV. A couple years back, the company said
a TV show was pitched by John Wick creator Derek Kolstad; that
live-action show was said to be centered on Drizzt Do’Urden, a character
first explored in R.A. Salvatore’s novel The Crystal Shard. He’s since
been featured in more than 30 novels and a few video games, including
Dungeon & Dragons: Dark Alliance. That project, however, is separate
from Paramount Plus’ project.
The Dungeons & Dragons franchise is a massive, sprawling hit with worlds
and characters spanning novels, video games, and beyond. The original
tabletop game lends itself to creativity as players form their own
characters set in the franchise’s world. Actual play shows are already
immensely popular on YouTube and elsewhere, with viewers invested in
watching and listening to player-created stories unravel.
The Dungeons & Dragons TV show from the director of Red Notice is really
happening
Paramount Plus orders 8 episodes
By Nicole Carpenter
Dungeons & Dragons will be adapted for television in a collaboration
between Paramount Plus and Hasbro studio eOne, led by Red Notice
director Rawson Marshall Thurber, according to a report from Deadline.
The eOne studio, owned by Hasbro to create film and TV adaptations of
its many properties, confirmed last February that the show was in early
development.
Deadline said eOne shopped the show around in November and received
interest from “multiple buyers,” but landed on Paramount Plus after “a
competitive situation.” The two companies will partner to create the
show; Thurber wrote the pilot and will direct the first episode. The
partnership makes sense, as eOne and Paramount Pictures co-produced
Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves, the feature film set to
premiere March 31, directed by Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley.
The live-action Dungeons and Dragons Paramount Plus show could be eOne’s
“largest-scope TV project ever,” Deadline said, with the potential to
kick off a Dungeons and Dragons universe with “scripted and unscripted
shows.”
Indeed, Hasbro and Wizards of the Coast have spoken before about
bringing the D&D franchise to TV. A couple years back, the company said
a TV show was pitched by John Wick creator Derek Kolstad; that
live-action show was said to be centered on Drizzt Do’Urden, a character
first explored in R.A. Salvatore’s novel The Crystal Shard. He’s since
been featured in more than 30 novels and a few video games, including
Dungeon & Dragons: Dark Alliance. That project, however, is separate
from Paramount Plus’ project.
The Dungeons & Dragons franchise is a massive, sprawling hit with worlds
and characters spanning novels, video games, and beyond. The original
tabletop game lends itself to creativity as players form their own
characters set in the franchise’s world. Actual play shows are already
immensely popular on YouTube and elsewhere, with viewers invested in
watching and listening to player-created stories unravel.
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Jan 13, 2023, 1:16:57 PM1/13/23
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I'm certain it will live up to the standards of the various movies.
You know, the garbage.
What a *stupid* idea.
--
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
You know, the garbage.
What a *stupid* idea.
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Spalls Hurgenson
Jan 19, 2023, 10:47:28 AM1/19/23
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:16:54 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm certain it will live up to the standards of the various movies.
>You know, the garbage.
>
>What a *stupid* idea.
The problem with a D&D TV show is that - as a source for narrative -
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm certain it will live up to the standards of the various movies.
>You know, the garbage.
>
>What a *stupid* idea.
D&D is boring.
I'm not saying the games we play are boring (I wouldn't still be
reading a nearly empty Usenet newsgroup after all these years if that
were the case ;-) but that D&D, alone, lacks the structure and
character for an interesting movie.
Sure, you can take elements from the game - regenerating trolls,
wizards who memorize spells on a daily basis, heroes who plunder
ancient tombs - and work them into a story... but then you've got a
fantasy movie that happens to use D&D tropes. It's not the D&D stuff
that really makes that movie interesting; it's everything around it:
the stories, the setting, the characters. I mean, if you look at a lot
of D&D games we play, they rip off movies and TV shows incessantly
because D&D, itself, isn't that interesting.
Now, were Wizards to license some of its IPs - Dragonlance, Gord the
Rogue*, Planescape, Spelljammer - then we might get an interesting
movie or TV series. But that never seems to be the case. Instead we
get a generic fantasy movie - usually written by the cheapest hack
they could find and then tailored to fit the broadest audience - that
has some recognizable features from D&D taped onto it.
Don't get me wrong. I think D&D is great, but it's just a framework.
It's a great framework upon which to build fun game experiences. But
it is like the easel upon which great works are painted. But nobody
goes to look at easels in a museum. Yet it seems as if that's what
Wizards wants, and then they're surprised when their efforts are in
vain.
TL;DR: I expect the TV show to be a flop too. ;-)
* yes, I know, Wizards doesn't actually own Gord the Rogue. I still
consider it a D&D property though, because those books really captured
the ideal of early D&D ;-)
Ubiquitous
Jan 19, 2023, 1:38:06 PM1/19/23
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>>I'm certain it will live up to the standards of the various movies.
>>You know, the garbage.
>>
>>What a *stupid* idea.
>
>>You know, the garbage.
>>
>>What a *stupid* idea.
>
>The problem with a D&D TV show is that - as a source for narrative -
>D&D is boring.
>
>I'm not saying the games we play are boring (I wouldn't still be
>reading a nearly empty Usenet newsgroup after all these years if that
>were the case ;-) but that D&D, alone, lacks the structure and
>character for an interesting movie.
Aren't there YouTube channels or something with people playing D&D?
>D&D is boring.
>
>I'm not saying the games we play are boring (I wouldn't still be
>reading a nearly empty Usenet newsgroup after all these years if that
>were the case ;-) but that D&D, alone, lacks the structure and
>character for an interesting movie.
I heard they're fairly popular, or maybe that's just with gamers.
>Sure, you can take elements from the game - regenerating trolls,
>wizards who memorize spells on a daily basis, heroes who plunder
>ancient tombs - and work them into a story... but then you've got a
>fantasy movie that happens to use D&D tropes. It's not the D&D stuff
>that really makes that movie interesting; it's everything around it:
>the stories, the setting, the characters. I mean, if you look at a lot
>of D&D games we play, they rip off movies and TV shows incessantly
>because D&D, itself, isn't that interesting.
>
>Now, were Wizards to license some of its IPs - Dragonlance, Gord the
>Rogue*, Planescape, Spelljammer - then we might get an interesting
>movie or TV series. But that never seems to be the case. Instead we
>get a generic fantasy movie - usually written by the cheapest hack
>they could find and then tailored to fit the broadest audience - that
>has some recognizable features from D&D taped onto it.
spend.
>Don't get me wrong. I think D&D is great, but it's just a framework.
>It's a great framework upon which to build fun game experiences. But
>it is like the easel upon which great works are painted. But nobody
>goes to look at easels in a museum. Yet it seems as if that's what
>Wizards wants, and then they're surprised when their efforts are in
>vain.
>
>
>TL;DR: I expect the TV show to be a flop too. ;-)
>
>* yes, I know, Wizards doesn't actually own Gord the Rogue. I still
>consider it a D&D property though, because those books really captured
>the ideal of early D&D ;-)
Let's go Brandon!
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Jan 19, 2023, 2:51:02 PM1/19/23
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Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote in
news:tqc2mc$1lfki$2...@dont-email.me:
> spallsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>I'm certain it will live up to the standards of the various
>>>movies. You know, the garbage.
>>>
>>>What a *stupid* idea.
>>
>>The problem with a D&D TV show is that - as a source for
>>narrative - D&D is boring.
>>
>>I'm not saying the games we play are boring (I wouldn't still be
>>reading a nearly empty Usenet newsgroup after all these years if
>>that were the case ;-) but that D&D, alone, lacks the structure
>>and character for an interesting movie.
>
> Aren't there YouTube channels or something with people playing
> D&D? I heard they're fairly popular, or maybe that's just with
> gamers.
In the grand scheme of things, they're small potatoes. For the
gaming industry/community, yeah, they're a pretty big deal.
If you're making a movie, you *never* spend your own money. You
recruit investors, leading them to believe (incorrectly) that
they'll get a share of the profit (because if somebody gets a
percentage of the net, there will *never* be a net, no matter what
accounting magic they have to invoke to make it happen[1]) And
investors aren't hard to find, especially if you actually have some
credits on IMDB (even bad ones), because there's always people who
want to buy a piece of the Hollywood magic.
(And, if you ensure the movie never makes a profit, you can sell
well over 100% of the production to investors. If you've never seen
the movie _The Producers_ - the original, with Zero Mostel, and
Gene Wilder, I've never seen the remake but I'm confident it sucks
- I highly recommend it as a work of comedic genius, and, while the
production in the movie is a stage play, it is a damning indictment
of Hollywood as well.)
[1]Like using a wholely owned subsidiary to buy a $5 lamp at the
Goodwill store, then renting it to the production company for
$5,000/day for the entire six month schooting schedule. Lather,
rinse, repeat for every prop.
news:tqc2mc$1lfki$2...@dont-email.me:
> spallsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>I'm certain it will live up to the standards of the various
>>>movies. You know, the garbage.
>>>
>>>What a *stupid* idea.
>>
>>The problem with a D&D TV show is that - as a source for
>>narrative - D&D is boring.
>>
>>I'm not saying the games we play are boring (I wouldn't still be
>>reading a nearly empty Usenet newsgroup after all these years if
>>that were the case ;-) but that D&D, alone, lacks the structure
>>and character for an interesting movie.
>
> Aren't there YouTube channels or something with people playing
> D&D? I heard they're fairly popular, or maybe that's just with
> gamers.
gaming industry/community, yeah, they're a pretty big deal.
>
>>Sure, you can take elements from the game - regenerating trolls,
>>wizards who memorize spells on a daily basis, heroes who plunder
>>ancient tombs - and work them into a story... but then you've
>>got a fantasy movie that happens to use D&D tropes. It's not the
>>D&D stuff that really makes that movie interesting; it's
>>everything around it: the stories, the setting, the characters.
>>I mean, if you look at a lot of D&D games we play, they rip off
>>movies and TV shows incessantly because D&D, itself, isn't that
>>interesting.
>>
>>Now, were Wizards to license some of its IPs - Dragonlance, Gord
>>the Rogue*, Planescape, Spelljammer - then we might get an
>>interesting movie or TV series. But that never seems to be the
>>case. Instead we get a generic fantasy movie - usually written
>>by the cheapest hack they could find and then tailored to fit
>>the broadest audience - that has some recognizable features from
>>D&D taped onto it.
>
> That would be a great idea, but that takes money that no one is
> willing to spend.
You really need to do some research into how movies are financed.
>>Sure, you can take elements from the game - regenerating trolls,
>>wizards who memorize spells on a daily basis, heroes who plunder
>>ancient tombs - and work them into a story... but then you've
>>got a fantasy movie that happens to use D&D tropes. It's not the
>>D&D stuff that really makes that movie interesting; it's
>>everything around it: the stories, the setting, the characters.
>>I mean, if you look at a lot of D&D games we play, they rip off
>>movies and TV shows incessantly because D&D, itself, isn't that
>>interesting.
>>
>>Now, were Wizards to license some of its IPs - Dragonlance, Gord
>>the Rogue*, Planescape, Spelljammer - then we might get an
>>interesting movie or TV series. But that never seems to be the
>>case. Instead we get a generic fantasy movie - usually written
>>by the cheapest hack they could find and then tailored to fit
>>the broadest audience - that has some recognizable features from
>>D&D taped onto it.
>
> That would be a great idea, but that takes money that no one is
> willing to spend.
If you're making a movie, you *never* spend your own money. You
recruit investors, leading them to believe (incorrectly) that
they'll get a share of the profit (because if somebody gets a
percentage of the net, there will *never* be a net, no matter what
accounting magic they have to invoke to make it happen[1]) And
investors aren't hard to find, especially if you actually have some
credits on IMDB (even bad ones), because there's always people who
want to buy a piece of the Hollywood magic.
(And, if you ensure the movie never makes a profit, you can sell
well over 100% of the production to investors. If you've never seen
the movie _The Producers_ - the original, with Zero Mostel, and
Gene Wilder, I've never seen the remake but I'm confident it sucks
- I highly recommend it as a work of comedic genius, and, while the
production in the movie is a stage play, it is a damning indictment
of Hollywood as well.)
[1]Like using a wholely owned subsidiary to buy a $5 lamp at the
Goodwill store, then renting it to the production company for
$5,000/day for the entire six month schooting schedule. Lather,
rinse, repeat for every prop.
Spalls Hurgenson
Jan 21, 2023, 8:40:33 PM1/21/23
to
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 13:32:54 -0500, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
>Aren't there YouTube channels or something with people playing D&D?
>I heard they're fairly popular, or maybe that's just with gamers.
Yeah, but people aren't really watching them for the D&D ruleset. The
videos are popular because of the interactions betwen the players and
the stories they create, not because you need to specifically roll a
16 to hit a particular armor class or because trolls have a Perception
+2 skill.
Now, people certainly may have a preference to watch people play D&D
games versus, say, Rollmaster* but that's due to a familiarity with
the system and because D&D lends itself to a certain style of gameplay
and setting. So D&D is a guide, but not of interest itself (at least
not to people watching).**
SO I can't get excited about a "D&D movie/TV series" because the "D&D"
part isn't that interesting; it will stand on (or fail) on everythign
around that license: it's characters, its setting, its story, its
acting, etc. But, man, I'd go for a Spelljammer movie...
>Aren't there YouTube channels or something with people playing D&D?
>I heard they're fairly popular, or maybe that's just with gamers.
videos are popular because of the interactions betwen the players and
the stories they create, not because you need to specifically roll a
16 to hit a particular armor class or because trolls have a Perception
+2 skill.
Now, people certainly may have a preference to watch people play D&D
games versus, say, Rollmaster* but that's due to a familiarity with
the system and because D&D lends itself to a certain style of gameplay
and setting. So D&D is a guide, but not of interest itself (at least
not to people watching).**
SO I can't get excited about a "D&D movie/TV series" because the "D&D"
part isn't that interesting; it will stand on (or fail) on everythign
around that license: it's characters, its setting, its story, its
acting, etc. But, man, I'd go for a Spelljammer movie...
LL
Jan 24, 2023, 4:59:36 AM1/24/23
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Am 13.01.2023 um 14:38 schrieb kyonshi:
> https://www.polygon.com/23548342/dungeons-dragons-dnd-paramount-plus-tv-series
>
> The Dungeons & Dragons TV show from the director of Red Notice is really
> happening
>
DnD without the players isn't DnD. They need to switch between the
> https://www.polygon.com/23548342/dungeons-dragons-dnd-paramount-plus-tv-series
>
> The Dungeons & Dragons TV show from the director of Red Notice is really
> happening
>
fantasy world and the real world in a believable, non-cheesy way.
"Stranger Things" found a way to introduce the fantasy part into the
real world, other way round would be to "teleport" the players into
the fantasy world narnia-style.
Or the fantasy world is just that, but the movie switches back and forth
La bataille de Farador - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoXdRMoh6HE
It's in french, but it is in a format that could work for a DnD TV show
IMHO.
Most probable is some woke suckage though.
LL
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Ubiquitous
Jan 25, 2023, 7:36:10 AM1/25/23
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In article <tqoa67$35jt$1...@dont-email.me>, L...@invalid.com wrote:
>Am 13.01.2023 um 14:38 schrieb kyonshi:
>> https://www.polygon.com/23548342/dungeons-dragons-dnd-paramount-plus-tv-series
>>
>> The Dungeons & Dragons TV show from the director of Red Notice is really
>> happening
>>
>
>DnD without the players isn't DnD. They need to switch between the
>fantasy world and the real world in a believable, non-cheesy way.
>"Stranger Things" found a way to introduce the fantasy part into the
>real world, other way round would be to "teleport" the players into
>the fantasy world narnia-style.
Maybe they can do the latter in a cartoon format?
>Am 13.01.2023 um 14:38 schrieb kyonshi:
>> https://www.polygon.com/23548342/dungeons-dragons-dnd-paramount-plus-tv-series
>>
>> The Dungeons & Dragons TV show from the director of Red Notice is really
>> happening
>>
>
>DnD without the players isn't DnD. They need to switch between the
>fantasy world and the real world in a believable, non-cheesy way.
>"Stranger Things" found a way to introduce the fantasy part into the
>real world, other way round would be to "teleport" the players into
>the fantasy world narnia-style.
>Or the fantasy world is just that, but the movie switches back and forth
>La bataille de Farador - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoXdRMoh6HE
>It's in french, but it is in a format that could work for a DnD TV show
>IMHO.
>
>Most probable is some woke suckage though.
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