TNT -- edited or not?
Judith A. Chien
South with copies off of TNT, because the station logo on my original
copies is much more irritating than the TNT logo. However, if TNT is
cutting the show, I don't want to get rid of my complete copies. I
haven't noticed any egregious edits on TNT, but I haven't actually
viewed all of the episodes. Does anyone know if TNT is editing Due
South for time?
Thanks,
Judith
JRD 203
In article <3661FF...@erols.com>, "Judith A. Chien" <jch...@erols.com>
writes:
Language only, thus far. They are deleting objectionable words (such as
"Jesus", not said as a prayer). I honestly haven't noticed, as I've never felt
that swear words add to the quality of a show....
But this editing doesn't seem to affect the time. In fact, when they took out
"Jesus," they simply had the character (Janet Morse - Bounty Hunter) gasp
instead.
Elyse
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commercials. Even old shows like Wild Wild West. I had an episode that
ran 50 min. originally and they used time compression to get it to 47
min. which speeds it up somewhat, but doesn't cut anything. Since the
Due South episodes originally ran less than 47 min in the third season
I don't think they are cut.
Gaynell
StellaK
Kari
Patty Winter
StellaK <due...@mail.tcbi.com> wrote:
>I haven't noticed TNT editing for time, but they are editing for language.
In Due South??! Such as what?
Patty
JRD 203
In article <7401fs$i1i$1...@shell5.ba.best.com>, pwi...@best.com (Patty Winter)
writes:
They took out Janet Morse swearing "Jesus" in "Bounty Hunter", but that's all
I've really noticed. Instead, she gasped, which worked just as well....
Lillian Feden
JRD 203 <jrd...@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in article
<19981201115116...@ngol02.aol.com>...
>
> In article <7401fs$i1i$1...@shell5.ba.best.com>, pwi...@best.com (Patty
Winter) writes:
> >In Due South??! Such as what?
>
> They took out Janet Morse swearing "Jesus" in "Bounty Hunter", but that's
all
> I've really noticed. Instead, she gasped, which worked just as well....
They also took out the God part, in Barrett's Privateers, making it sound
really
stupid. The line is "God damn them all."
I don't like the editing Elyse mentioned in "Bounty Hunter." I go along
with the folks on the
DS list who prefer their work intact, the way the writers intended.
We could get into censorship and things like that, but this isn't the
forum. I guess those that
consider "foul" language unimaginative must not think very much of some of
the classic books
and may even agree with the idea that _Huckelberry Finn_ should be banned.
Lillian
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JRD 203
In article <01be1d95$b5d94400$0e1d45cf@default>, "Lillian Feden"
<rots...@mindspring.com> writes:
>> They took out Janet Morse swearing "Jesus" in "Bounty Hunter", but that's
>all>> I've really noticed. Instead, she gasped, which worked just as well....
>
and Lillian replied:
>They also took out the God part, in Barrett's Privateers, making it sound
>really>stupid. The line is "God damn them all."
Quite honestly, I hadn't noticed as MOTB isn't one of my favorite episodes.
Some parts are great while others are, well, not all that great (at least I
don't think so).
>I don't like the editing Elyse mentioned in "Bounty Hunter." I go along
>with the folks on the>DS list who prefer their work intact, the way the
writers intended. >
Actually, it's a guess that's that what the writers wanted. The writers will
write a script, which will then go through a process of others looking at it,
of legal departments saying, 'no, you can't use that, we'll be sued, or it'll
cost us $10K in fees just to mention it," etc.
>We could get into censorship and things like that, but this isn't the
>forum. I guess those that>consider "foul" language unimaginative must not
think very much of some of>the classic books>and may even agree with the idea
that _Huckelberry Finn_ should be banned.>
WEll, as to whether foul language is 'unimaginative' isn't really the point.
It's TNT's removal of the words in question that's the real topic.
TNT is at liberty to remove what they want, to fit what they feel their target
audience should see. And at 4pm, it's usually kids home from school (as
housewives dominate the late morning/early afternoon hours, and working folk
aren't normally home till after 5pm).
One thing that would be interesting to know -- from new fans who didn't see the
3rd season while in PolyGram syndication -- is do they think swear words
(they're still categorized as that) make DS a better show, or not? Does it
change the plot? Etc.?
So, let's hear it from the new viewers!
DanielEBo
is an EXTREMELY small price to pay in order to see these gems on TNT every day.
JRD 203
In article <19981201221339...@ng-cc1.aol.com>, dani...@aol.com
(DanielEBo) writes:
Except Sundays. <G>
And that's a very good point!
Patrick JB
are so mild that I would hardly consider the words to offensive to more
than an extreme minority (as reciting the Lords Prayer may be offensive to
some......or even showing funerals or shadowy, simulated
sex......kissing??? Violence of any type or crooked cops).......... well at
least here.
Australian telly even allows the odd 'Fuck', especially in later programs
(eg. later then 8.30pm, I think)....
To answer the question......too much swearing ? Not necessary. None at
all........might as well watch the Donny and Marie show - for realism.
Patrick
JRD 203 <jrd...@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in article
<19981201214619...@ngol06.aol.com>...
>
> In article <01be1d95$b5d94400$0e1d45cf@default>, "Lillian Feden"
> <rots...@mindspring.com> writes:
>
> >> They took out Janet Morse swearing "Jesus" in "Bounty Hunter", but
that's
> >all>> I've really noticed. Instead, she gasped, which worked just as
well....
> >
> and Lillian replied:
> >They also took out the God part, in Barrett's Privateers, making it
sound
> >really>stupid. The line is "God damn them all."
>
> . The writers will
> write a script, which will then go through a process of others looking at
it,
> of legal departments saying, 'no, you can't use that, we'll be sued, or
it'll
> cost us $10K in fees just to mention it," etc.
I guess those that>consider "foul" language unimaginative must not
> think very much of some of>the classic books>and may even agree with the
idea > that _Huckelberry Finn_ should be banned.>
>
> WEll, as to whether foul language is 'unimaginative' isn't really the
point.
> It's TNT's removal of the words in question that's the real topic.
>
> audience should see. And at 4pm, it's usually kids home from school (as
> housewives dominate the late morning/early afternoon hours, and working
folk
> aren't normally home till after 5pm).
>
> 3rd season while in PolyGram syndication -- is do they think swear words
> (they're still categorized as that) make DS a better show, or not? Does
it
> change the plot? Etc.?
>
> So, let's hear it from the new viewers!
>
>
Truble2301
>are so mild that I would hardly consider the words to offensive to more
>than an extreme minority
As the mother of two kids under 8, my feeling is that if I don't want to hear
my kids repeating it, then I'd prefer not to see it on tv at times when they
could be watching. If that makes me a prude, so be it, I guess. Never thought
of myself that way before (and trust me, I have a mouth like a sailor when I
let it rip!)
Tammy
Mireille92
In article <01be1da9$18141380$c10065cb@user1>, "Patrick JB"
<patr...@one.net.au> writes:
>
>Well, swear words can just be for effect, but I think Jesus and God damn,
>are so mild that I would hardly consider the words to offensive to more
>than an extreme minority
You can't say "God damn" on American TV, except on pay channels like HBO, that
I know of. You can say "Jesus" without the Federal Communications Commission
coming after you, but most TV shows don't.
Extreme minorities are *extremely* vocal in the U.S.
--
Mirei...@aol.com
Mireille92
In article <19981202054911...@ng144.aol.com>, trubl...@aol.com
(Truble2301) writes:
>
>As the mother of two kids under 8, my feeling is that if I don't want to hear
>my kids repeating it, then I'd prefer not to see it on tv at times when they
>could be watching.
As a person who is greatly opposed to censorship, my feeling is that if enough
people feel the way you do that a show on at 4 p.m. has to be edited, then that
show shouldn't be on at 4 p.m.
Of course, I also feel that if Jerry Springer can be on at 4 p.m. (even though
they bleep the swear words), then, while individuals (who may or may not let
their kids watch Springer, though an awful lot of them do) may feel that
"Jesus" should be edited out of DS, the TV industry as a whole hasn't a leg to
stand on.
--
Mirei...@aol.com
VICTORIA JANE CASTLES
when Turnbull is complaining about Sgt Sam's sword not being correct on
dress reds etc and when they all troop past him (Welsh, Thatcher, Fraser
and Stan followed by Sgt Sam) she tells him to.....
"piss off!"
It had me in stitches as it seemed that only Sgt Sam ( the BTC big time
crazy) could get away with that line.
cheers
Vicky
Mireille92 <mirei...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19981202061417...@ngol03.aol.com>...
NEXRADGirl
>So does that mean that MotB was edited for you guys in the US....
>when Turnbull is complaining about Sgt Sam's sword not being correct on
>dress reds etc and when they all troop past him (Welsh, Thatcher, Fraser
>and Stan followed by Sgt Sam) she tells him to.....
>"piss off!"
Nope, we heard that one. At least I did. And I'm in Tx. And I can't remember
if I heard "Jesus" or not in BH. Maybe I should re-watch that one. <g> And I
know for a fact that they left "God damn" (sorry, sorry) in MotB. I remember
hearing it in the song and being shocked because I had never really heard it
used on cable before. Maybe local stations are editing instead of TNT as a
whole.
Erin. :)
"Listen as the wind blows, From across the Great Divide"--"Possession"--Sarah
McLachlan
"That's DUM, dumb." and "I wouldn't know this guy if he jumped outta my
soup."--Stanley *Ray* Kowalski--"Due South"
JRD 203
In article <19981202121726...@ng105.aol.com>, nexra...@aol.com
(NEXRADGirl) writes:
>>dress reds etc and when they all troop past him (Welsh, Thatcher, Fraser
>>and Stan followed by Sgt Sam) she tells him to.....
>>"piss off!"
>
Erin said:
>Nope, we heard that one. At least I did. And I'm in Tx. And I can't remember
>if I heard "Jesus" or not in BH. Maybe I should re-watch that one. <g> And
>I
>know for a fact that they left "God damn" (sorry, sorry) in MotB. I remember
>hearing it in the song and being shocked because I had never really heard it
>used on cable before. Maybe local stations are editing instead of TNT as a
>whole.
Words like "g-- damn," "damn," "hell" are all 'accepted' standards on network
tv right now. Words like "Jesus" aren't. I believe it showed up in the third
season due to the fact there were nonetworks to interfere, and Canadian fans
have said that Canadian tv has a higher content of swear words (apparently the
show "Cold Squad" is really pushing the envelope). The "F" word isn't said at
all on network, but Captain Picard did say "s---" on Star Trek, but did it in
French, so it got past the censors!
Again, it's a cultural difference. American TV may be more 'prudish' in regards
to language (that is, till you turn on cable stations, yikes!) but then perhaps
they feel they need to draw the line because of our high violence quotient.
But back to Due South, I can see Stan swearing more than the other characters,
as he seems rougher (perhaps because he had to live with that dumb name all his
life! <G>) but Fraser was brought up with discipline and manners, so if and
when he swears (such as "son of a bitch" in the Pilot) it was only after great
stress (like finding out his dad's best friend killed his father).
Of course, we have no idea what the wolf is saying. FOr all we know, he could
be swearing a blue streak (probably about the lack of jelly donuts in his
diet). <VBG>
Patty Winter
please tell me where in "Bounty Hunter" the "Jesus" occurred?
As for MotB, the scene with Sgt. Sam must be near the end of
the two parter, but I forget where "Barrett's Privateers" is
sung and would appreciate a pointer to it.
Patty
JRD 203
BEware, spoilers for BOUNTY HUNTER and MOTB!
In article <743v93$787$1...@shell5.ba.best.com>, pwi...@best.com (Patty Winter)
writes:
>Okay, now I'm curious. Time to drag out the tapes. Could someone
>please tell me where in "Bounty Hunter" the "Jesus" occurred?
When Stan and Fraser go to the stables (at night), they run into Janet when
they come around the corner, and Janet utters "Jesus"; however, on TNT, she
just gasps, which works just as well.
>As for MotB, the scene with Sgt. Sam must be near the end of
>the two parter, but I forget where "Barrett's Privateers" is
>sung and would appreciate a pointer to it.
The 'piss off' thing is in, um, part 2, somewhere, on the boat (yeah, that's a
good hint, isn't it?). I believe Fraser sings the Barrett's song in part 1
before the ship sinks. He's busy singing it while Stan is doing a lousy job of
searching and getting caught at it <G>
Dan Payne`
Barbara
David Kime
> tv right now. Words like "Jesus" aren't. I believe it showed up in the third
> season due to the fact there were nonetworks to interfere, and Canadian fans
> have said that Canadian tv has a higher content of swear words (apparently the
> show "Cold Squad" is really pushing the envelope). The "F" word isn't said at
> all on network, but Captain Picard did say "s---" on Star Trek, but did it in
> French, so it got past the censors!
Peter MacNichol in the series premiere of "Chicago Hope" all those years
ago very clearly and distinctly used the word "shat" which is past tense
of the more common "s" word. It was on a major (if sometimes stupid) US
network, on a highly publicised premiere episode. It was quite surprising.
Of course, I think NYPD Blue usually earns its title "Blue" for its
pushing the envelope on the language issue.
David
Pam Gillespie
David Kime wrote:
> Peter MacNichol in the series premiere of "Chicago Hope" all those years
> ago very clearly and distinctly used the word "shat" which is past tense
> of the more common "s" word. It was on a major (if sometimes stupid) US
> network, on a highly publicised premiere episode. It was quite surprising.
[grin] And oddly enough, that episode aired a mere *hour* after DS aired *its*
series premiere... :)
Pam
--------------------------------
"I thought I was in love once. And then later I thought maybe it was just an inner
ear imbalance."
-- Benton Fraser
Patty Winter
NEXRADGirl <nexra...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Nope, we heard that one. At least I did. And I'm in Tx. And I can't remember
>if I heard "Jesus" or not in BH. Maybe I should re-watch that one. <g> And I
>know for a fact that they left "God damn" (sorry, sorry) in MotB.
Don't think so. I just checked MotB, and although Sgt. Sam's "Piss off"
remark to Turnbull survived, every chorus of "Barrett's Privateers" said
"damn," not "God damn." I even turned on the closed captioning to verify--
and that had been edited as well, causing some munged captions in most
places where it happened.
>Maybe local stations are editing instead of TNT as a whole.
DS isn't being aired on individual stations in the U.S. any more;
just TNT. So whatever is being done is being done by or at the
request of TNT.
(I noticed in a TCM airing of "The Great Santini" recently that
they edited out the word "Christ" when Robert Duvall used it for
emphasis in one sentence, too.)
Haven't gotten to Bounty Hunter yet...
Patty
Michael Matalis
find intolerable. I love to watch movies translated to network TV to see
how they use to cover the classic "F" word. The other night I watched
"Fargo" in which it was switched to "frizzing." Remember that the next time
your hair gets the frizzies. My all time favorite was the movie "Night On
Earth" which followed the adventures of 5 cab drivers handling fares after
dark at various cities around the planet. In the two English language
segments (LA and NY) the "F" word was carefully bleeped out. In the 3
European segments, not only were the words not bleeped out, but they were
printed out in English in the subtitles!!! Apparently they felt it was OK
to use obscenities in front of illiterates.
Mike Matalis
Watauga TX
Lillian Feden
Truble2301 <trubl...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19981202054911...@ng144.aol.com>...
> >Well, swear words can just be for effect, but I think Jesus and God
damn,
> >are so mild that I would hardly consider the words to offensive to more
> >than an extreme minority
>
> As the mother of two kids under 8, my feeling is that if I don't want to
hear
> my kids repeating it, then I'd prefer not to see it on tv at times when
they
> could be watching. If that makes me a prude, so be it, I guess. Never
thought
> of myself that way before (and trust me, I have a mouth like a sailor
when I
> let it rip!)
I said this when this topic came up on the DS list, and I'll repeat it
here.
If a child is raised that certain language is objectionable to his parents,
then hopefully that child will grow up with the standards that his parents
instill in him. There is a great deal of "objectionable" language out in
the world. If hearing a word or two on television makes a child start
swearing and drinking and smoking and engaging in whatever activity they
see, then perhaps the parents need to turn the television off.
Hopefully the parents influence on the child is stronger than television's.
Plus, what's objectionable to some is not objectionable to others. I was
deeply offended by the episode of Touched by an Angel that DM was in, as
was my guest from the UK, and she's a MAJOR DM fan. But I don't insist
that they cut out certain things because it offends "me."
Patrick JB
If swearing is so bad, then violence is worse....if children are allowed to
watch POWER RANGERS and other violent shows, then that is of greater
concern.
Also, the effect on children is far less than the effect on adults....they
only become morally outraged...children laugh.
Small point. Swearing can easily be presented to children as being
rude....it's not really all that bad, just offensive in a personal and
aesthetic fashion.... they will be neither murderers, junkies nor
socio/psychopaths should they hear swearing, but violence may reduce
increase their tolerance. Especially when the violence is directed against
particular ethnic groups (eg. all the bad guys in American movies are now
eastern European or Russian gangsters, Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians. Which is
worse??
Patrick
Lillian Feden <rots...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
<01be1e5c$ab64ff60$041d45cf@default>...
Patrick JB
concern of children watching is not so great.
I, along with many in Australia, find the whole discussion quite odd. I
guess that's 'cos the time the show is shown is different. BUT "GOD" and
"GOD DAMN" and "JESUS" are considered such mild terms here that it would
not be a major issue for day time telly. Oprah's fawning is more of a
concern. Her narcissistic me-me-me-me-me-me-me, ad nauseam, is quite
pathetic and revolting. The other shows that are like hers, proselytise the
same. (eg. Lying to your partner and going on telly to state that you did
so, is demeaning) .........that sort of behaviour requires editing,
starting with the opening credits. I'd be more concerned if my children
learnt anything from those shows......never mind the mindlessness of the
SUPER models......
ohmigod......I'm on a soap-box!
Apologies to all.
Patrick
Mireille92 <mirei...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19981202062048...@ngol03.aol.com>...
>
> In article <19981202054911...@ng144.aol.com>,
trubl...@aol.com
> (Truble2301) writes:
>
> >
> >As the mother of two kids under 8, my feeling is that if I don't want to
hear
> >my kids repeating it, then I'd prefer not to see it on tv at times when
they
> >could be watching.
>
> As a person who is greatly opposed to censorship, my feeling is that if
Gaynell Bates
>Earth" which followed the adventures of 5 cab drivers handling fares
after
>dark at various cities around the planet. In the two English language
>segments (LA and NY) the "F" word was carefully bleeped out. In the 3
>European segments, not only were the words not bleeped out, but they
were
>printed out in English in the subtitles!!! Apparently they felt it
was OK
>to use obscenities in front of illiterates.
I've watch Highlander on USA and when they skip words, the words still
show in the close captioning.
Gaynell
Patty Winter
Teresa ana <tere...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Language only, thus far. They are deleting objectionable words (such as
>>"Jesus", not said as a prayer). I honestly haven't noticed, as I've never
>>felt
>>that swear words add to the quality of a show....
>
>In today's episode "Mojo Rising" Stanley's dad called him a "stupid son of a
>bitch" at the very end of the episode. TNT did not edit it!
Hmmm, is anyone else seeing a trend here: No "Jesus," no "Christ,"
no "God"? (As expletives, I mean.) Maybe TNT/TCM (and TBS?) are
only deleting words that "take the name of the Lord in vain."
(Plus, undoubtedly, those two stronger words that don't occur in
DS but are probably in some of the movies these stations air.)
Patty
Teresa ana
>"Jesus", not said as a prayer). I honestly haven't noticed, as I've never
>felt
>that swear words add to the quality of a show....
In today's episode "Mojo Rising" Stanley's dad called him a "stupid son of a
bitch" at the very end of the episode. TNT did not edit it!
Teresa
Emily Breed
Patty Winter <pwi...@best.com> wrote:
>Hmmm, is anyone else seeing a trend here: No "Jesus," no "Christ,"
>no "God"? (As expletives, I mean.) Maybe TNT/TCM (and TBS?) are
>only deleting words that "take the name of the Lord in vain."
>(Plus, undoubtedly, those two stronger words that don't occur in
>DS but are probably in some of the movies these stations air.)
I've noticed that before on other stations, as well. One occurrence that
struck me as quite odd was in a documentary on the late comedian Bill
Hicks, shown on Comedy Central. They bleeped the word "God" almost
everywhere, resulting in things like "G<bleep> damn!"
Seems kinda backward to me, but then, I'm not Christian. Maybe observant
Christians would be more offended by "taking God's name in vain" than by
the word "damn."
In general, I much prefer having the sound simply drop out for the
fraction of a second the offensive word takes up than having an obtrusive
"<bleeeeeeep!>" inserted in the middle of dialogue.
Emily Breed emi...@best.com
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"If we cannot end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe
for diversity." -- John F. Kennedy
S Mrozinski
escapes me at the moment...
In article <7401fs$i1i$1...@shell5.ba.best.com>, pwi...@best.com (Patty
Winter) wrote:
>In article <aoK82.226$ww5....@homer.alpha.net>,
>StellaK <due...@mail.tcbi.com> wrote:
>>I haven't noticed TNT editing for time, but they are editing for language.
>In Due South??! Such as what?
>Patty
In a recent ep (I believe "Easy Money"), right after Ray and OFM find that
a bad guy was masquerading as a detective or some such, they give chase
down an alley. The exchange was along the lines of:
RV: "Boy, that guy's got <blip>!"
BF: "Jewels? Well, of course he's got the jewels, Ray..." etc.
Sheesh. Such trivial censorship - and from a country that proudly offers a
restaurant chain that goes by the name of "Hooters". (Hmm... wonder how
ol' Ted T feels about his wife's "Barbarella" days?)
Another ep (sorry, can't remember the exact one since they're merging as a
whole ;) which ran this week had a brief exchange in the police station
between Frannie and Ray... can't recall her line, but Ray says something
to the effect of, "How'd you like a size-10 kick in the <blank>."
<sigh> I dunno. Yes, it's on during the after-school hours; but how many
kids would actually choose to watch DS in lieu of more entertaining junk
like Power Rangers? I doubt if it's stopping kids from using the language,
either; I've heard worse on shows aired during the dinner hour.
StellaK
reference to the Welsh's brother: "It would be nice if we had a Sheriff
with some <>." The word they removed, in case anyone doesn't remember, is
"stones". Very annoying, when there are a lot worse things kids are hearing
in prime time.
Kari
Grigiolupo
Yes, but unfortunately I don't get out of school until 3:10 here, Due South
starts at 3:00, and I don't actually get home until around 3:40. I have to set
the timer on my VCR so I can tape it, not that I wouldn't be taping it even if
I got out of school earlier, but at least if I was there at the time, I
wouldn't have to tape the commercials. Thank goodness for early dismissals.
Caroline
JRD 203
Truble2301 mentioned that as a mother, she doesn't wnt her kids hearing swear
words (even on Due South), which is of course a concern for all parents.
Lil then said:
>If a child is raised that certain language is objectionable to his parents,
>then hopefully that child will grow up with the standards that his parents
>instill in him. There is a great deal of "objectionable" language out in
>the world. If hearing a word or two on television makes a child start
>swearing and drinking and smoking and engaging in whatever activity they
>see, then perhaps the parents need to turn the television off.
>
>Hopefully the parents influence on the child is stronger than television's.
Most people hope that too, but when children, or even adults, are subject to
swear words/foul language/etc. every day, it slowly insinuates itself into the
language. Lots of parents do turn off the TV.
But as many people have pointed out, uttering "Jesus" in vain is acceptable (at
least in Australia); however, it boils down to what TNT wants. NEtworks
reguarly cut out entire scenes to make way for ads, and networks regularly edit
out the "f" word out of movies.
>
>Plus, what's objectionable to some is not objectionable to others. I was
>deeply offended by the episode of Touched by an Angel that DM was in, as
>was my guest from the UK, and she's a MAJOR DM fan. But I don't insist
>that they cut out certain things because it offends "me."
Since you brought it up, what was so objectionable about that episode?
JRD 203
An ad in the GLOBE & MAIL stated that Paul Gross will appear at the Manulife
Centre (at Bay & Bloor in Toronto) at the Indigo Books store on Saturday,
December 12th at 2pm, for a book signing of the Official Due South Guide.
JRD 203
I wrote:
>An ad in the GLOBE & MAIL stated that Paul Gross will appear at the Manulife
>Centre (at Bay & Bloor in Toronto) at the Indigo Books store on Saturday,
>December 12th at 2pm, for a book signing of the Official Due South Guide.
*****UPDATE*****
The booksigning will last only one hour (2-3pm). If you need additional
information, you can call Micol Marotti at Alliance Atlantis at 416-966-7758.
me
>Editing is always a dicey issue, what some people find acceptable, others
>find intolerable. I love to watch movies translated to network TV to see
>how they use to cover the classic "F" word.
I wonder if the editing is due to "community standards". TNT like USA network
may be just very conservative so as not to offend the most conservative
communities. As a network they probably want the largest number of
viewers and being more conservative might give them more viewers.
One way of looking at it is if they take out the "bad words" the conservative
types would watch, and those that don't like the edits will still watch
the shoe because no one else is playing it.
Would most of us really notice the edited dialog if it was the first time
we were seeing an particular episode?
Michael Matalis
more commercials. I hate to admit this, but I watch a fair amount of Star
Trek (Egad, he's a Trekkie!!!! Run away! Run away!) and episode guides
for that series have detailed cuts made for shows shown in syndication. The
problem is that shows in syndication simply run more commercials, and time
has to made for them. Unless you have copies from the original runs (or the
tapes if you are somewhere they are available) you might never notice the
cuts because only bits and pieces of scenes are clipped out in order to get
the time. Whether TNT is doing this, I have absolutely no idea. The only
way to check is to have dual VCRs and run an original showing tape at the
same time as a tape of a TNT show. I don't have the time to do this (too
busy watching Due South, Star Trek, Xena, Northern Exposure, Buffy the
Vampire Slayer and Ally McBeal and other mind enlightening series) but if
anyone else does, I would like to hear from them.
Thank You Kindly,
Mike ("Get A Life!") Matalis
Watauga TX
LadyCapulet
sensitivites (sp?). The athesists done believe at all, those of the Jewish
faith dont believe that Christ has come, then there are those who--like
someone said-- are offended when the Lords name is used in vain. So
bleeping a word or two can cover a lot of territory, without really changing
the story content.
Emily Breed wrote in message <749mpq$o05$1...@shell3.ba.best.com>...
Sarah (the other)
JRD 203 wrote in message <19981209194746...@ngol02.aol.com>...
<snip>
>But Due South was already a short series, especially in the final season,
when
>you got about 44/45 minutes, credits included, so that's enough room for
ads.
>One way they edit it also to speed up the sound. So people could sound a
little
>higher pitched than before.....
Am I not getting something? Is that a joke? Why do they want to sound
higher pitched?
Sarah
--
Spike: "Love isn't brains, children, it's
blood -- blood screaming inside you to work its will."
Snapp
compared to other syndicated shows. As a Diet Mt.Dew addict, I find I
have less time for a "break" as per usual.
Mike
JRD 203
In article <74n26k$skm$1...@juliana.sprynet.com>, "Michael Matalis"
<mmat...@sprynet.com> writes:
>A not so obvious way that Due South episodes may be edited is to include
>more commercials. I hate to admit this, but I watch a fair amount of Star
>Trek (Egad, he's a Trekkie!!!! Run away! Run away!) and episode guides
>for that series have detailed cuts made for shows shown in syndication. The
>problem is that shows in syndication simply run more commercials, and time
>has to made for them. U
But Due South was already a short series, especially in the final season, when
you got about 44/45 minutes, credits included, so that's enough room for ads.
One way they edit it also to speed up the sound. So people could sound a little
higher pitched than before.....
Elyse
JRD 203
In article <366f1...@blushng.jps.net>, "Sarah (the other)"
<eterno...@usa.net> writes:
>>One way they edit it also to speed up the sound. So people could sound a
>little
>>higher pitched than before.....
>
>Am I not getting something? Is that a joke? Why do they want to sound
>higher pitched?
>
>
No, no joke. They'll speed up the tape just a fraction, nothing noticeable,
which will give them more time to squeeze in just one more ad. I don't know if
TNT does that or not, but some neworks, whatever, have done it in the past.
VICTORIA JANE CASTLES
hold your head up high Mike and be counted!
However Xena and Ally.... you have me a bit worried there mate!
How many days to "ST Insurrection" ???? this duckie can't wait!!!!
Vicky
Michael Matalis <mmat...@sprynet.com> wrote in article
<74n26k$skm$1...@juliana.sprynet.com>...
>. I hate to admit this, but I watch a fair amount of Star
> Trek (Egad, he's a Trekkie!!!! Run away! Run away!)
..snipped!
Carrie E. Byrd
> However Xena and Ally.... you have me a bit worried there mate!
> How many days to "ST Insurrection" ???? this duckie can't wait!!!!
>
I am soooo psyched, it looks like it's gonna be a really good flick.
>
> Michael Matalis <mmat...@sprynet.com> wrote in article
>
> Star Trek,
TNG!!
> Xena,
not anymore!!
> Buffy the Vampire Slayer
WahWahWah!! I missed this weeks ep. But I love the show
> and Ally McBeal
Eh. It's okay, not always.
--
Carrie
"On the inside I'm a poet,
on the outside, mmph!
Shake, bad guys, shake."
-Stanley Kowalski.
Michael Matalis
Mike Matalis
Watauga TX
VICTORIA JANE CASTLES wrote in message
<01be241f$c98e87e0$030a868b@pentium>...
>There is nothing wrong with Star Trek....
>hold your head up high Mike and be counted!
>However Xena and Ally.... you have me a bit worried there mate!
>How many days to "ST Insurrection" ???? this duckie can't wait!!!!
>Vicky
>
matheson
>A not so obvious way that Due South episodes may be edited is to include
>more commercials. I hate to admit this, but I watch a fair amount of Star
>Trek (Egad, he's a Trekkie!!!! Run away! Run away!) and episode guides
>for that series have detailed cuts made for shows shown in syndication.
The
>problem is that shows in syndication simply run more commercials, and time
Speaking of the "special" ST:TOS's now running on the SciFi Channel - the
interviews and comments are great, but the endless and repetitive
commercials are NOT. It is obvious that some breaks are being made slightly
early, to allow for the increased ads.
As to Due South, the TNT episodes don't show the title of the episode (at
least not on my TV) so that may be one place where time is being saved. Is
anything being taken from the closing titles?
I'm SOOOOOOO glad TNT is starting the cycle over - the thought of no more
Due South makes my heart palpitate!
Robin in NWFLorida
"Understood"
JRD 203
In article <74qe40$c6l4$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>, "matheson"
<math...@prodigy.net> writes:
>As to Due South, the TNT episodes don't show the title of the episode (at
>least not on my TV) so that may be one place where time is being saved. Is
>anything being taken from the closing titles?
Nope. Due South never had the titles displayed on the episodes, even on first
run CBS viewings, so there's been no editing there at all.
Pam Gillespie
JRD 203 wrote:
> I
> Nope. Due South never had the titles displayed on the episodes, even on first
> run CBS viewings, so there's been no editing there at all.
>
Except for VS, that is... :)
Pam
JRD 203
A while ago there was a thread re Canadian content and Due South (and other
shows) and it seems from recent news reports that the Canadian Television Fund
is changing its stance. RIght now it's just where the funding/production is
done, but now they're aiming that if the show is made in Canada, but about
outer space and NOT Canada, it's not Canadian content. So it makes you wonder
if Fraser, a Mountie situated in Chicago, is Canadian content now. Perhaps the
red serge is enough content, however. <G>
Fund wants Canadian shows only
The Vancouver Sun
"Canadian-made shows set in Texas, space, or Anywhere, North America, need not
apply. Only "distinctly Canadian" TV programs will be considered next year for
either the fund's licence-fee program (grants to eligible programs) or its
Telefilm-run equity-investment program (recoupable contributions to production
costs). "
Next year, projects will no longer be served on a first-come, first-served
basis, and eligibility will be tightened. The fund will only consider TV
programs that are aimed at Canadian audiences and reflect Canadian themes and
subject matter; that have Canadians in all key creative roles, including
writers, directors and lead actors; that are owned and controlled by Canadians;
and that are shot and set primarily in Canada (unless a foreign location is
crucial to telling a Canadian story)."
Frank Swarbrick
> Fund wants Canadian shows only
> The Vancouver Sun
>
> "Canadian-made shows set in Texas, space, or Anywhere, North America, need not
> apply. Only "distinctly Canadian" TV programs will be considered next year for
> either the fund's licence-fee program (grants to eligible programs) or its
> Telefilm-run equity-investment program (recoupable contributions to production
> costs). "
>
> Next year, projects will no longer be served on a first-come, first-served
> basis, and eligibility will be tightened. The fund will only consider TV
> programs that are aimed at Canadian audiences and reflect Canadian themes and
> subject matter; that have Canadians in all key creative roles, including
> writers, directors and lead actors; that are owned and controlled by Canadians;
> and that are shot and set primarily in Canada (unless a foreign location is
> crucial to telling a Canadian story)."
Does and episode of Law & Order count?
(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
--
Frank Swarbrick
home: inf...@sprynet.com
work: frank.s...@1stbank.com
Jean Williams
Ldywarrior
>crucial to telling a Canadian story)."
Personally, I feel that DS should qualify since it is the story of how a
Mountie reacts in Chicago and how Chicago reacts to said Mountie. But them I'm
an American, what do I know about Canadian stories?
Dwight Williams
You know enough to judge this one rightly enough, thankfully.
--
Dwight Williams(ad...@freenet.carleton.ca) -- Orleans, Ontario, Canada
Maintainer/Founder - DEOList for _Chase_ Fandom
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Charter42
My favorite bleep job occurs in MotB, when the censors drop the "God" in the
repeated line "God damn them all" from Fraser's rendition of "Barrett's
Privateers" -- although you can clearly see his mouth moving. Real class job,
you know?
You'd think they coulda told the poor guy, before he was broadcast looking like
he had to repeatedly clear his ears due to a sudden altitude change, or
something. ("<ear pop" damn them all!")
--------------
"... the people realized that the
caribou and the wolf were one.
For although the caribou feeds the wolf,
it is the wolf that keeps the caribou strong."
-- Inuit creation myth
David
news:19981220021800...@ng139.aol.com...
><briefly de-lurking again>
>
>My favorite bleep job occurs in MotB, when the censors drop the "God" in
the
>repeated line "God damn them all" from Fraser's rendition of "Barrett's
>Privateers" -- although you can clearly see his mouth moving. Real class
job,
>you know?
>
>You'd think they coulda told the poor guy, before he was broadcast looking
like
>he had to repeatedly clear his ears due to a sudden altitude change, or
>something. ("<ear pop" damn them all!")
But the show wasn't shot for TNT. I don't know what happened in US
syndication, but the "god" aired intact in Canada. It *was* our show, after
all.
We were just nice enough to share it with you.
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Charter42
>But the show wasn't shot for TNT. I don't know what happened in US
>syndication, but the "god" aired intact in Canada. It *was* our show, after
>all.
That figures -- TNT is notoriously trigger-happy with the bleeping machine.
Also the fuzzy machine.
>We were just nice enough to share it with you.
And we're so happy you did! Are. Were. YOU know what I mean! :)
JRD 203
In article <19981221211358...@ng110.aol.com>, char...@aol.com
(Charter42) writes:
>David wrote:
>>But the show wasn't shot for TNT. I don't know what happened in US
>>syndication, but the "god" aired intact in Canada. It *was* our show, after
>>all.
>
>
Oh dear, not to want to nitpick, but I can't resist. DUE SOUTH was a combined
CBS/CTV co-production when it began. In fact, CTV wasn't sure they could carry
off the show without CBS's funding when the second season came around, but they
did it anyway! (and then when CBS's great fall season sank quicker than the
Titanic, CBS quickly latched on to DS again for the latter half of season 2).
Shame they couldn't have stuck around for a third....
David
news:19981221213137...@ngol07.aol.com...
>
>
>Oh dear, not to want to nitpick, but I can't resist. DUE SOUTH was a
combined
>CBS/CTV co-production when it began. In fact, CTV wasn't sure they could
carry
>off the show without CBS's funding when the second season came around, but
they
>did it anyway! (and then when CBS's great fall season sank quicker than the
>Titanic, CBS quickly latched on to DS again for the latter half of season
2).
>Shame they couldn't have stuck around for a third....
>
Not to nitpick, but CBS was not a co-producer. They licensed the show, like
they do with most of their programming, but did not have a production credit
on the show.
And of course the 3rd season episode in question was not produced with any
American money at all.
JRD 203
In article <75ncs4$ptv$0...@dosa.alt.net>, "David" <da...@see.sig> writes:
>Not to nitpick, but CBS was not a co-producer. They licensed the show, like
>they do with most of their programming, but did not have a production credit
>on the show.
CBS put a lot of money into it the show, so in essence they did contribute
greatly to it. It was only when CBS returned in second season did they,
according to interviews, have the money to once again blow up vehicles. ;)
>And of course the 3rd season episode in question was not produced with any
>American money at all.
Yup, there's never been a question on that point!
A. Percy
: But the show wasn't shot for TNT. I don't know what happened in US
: syndication, but the "god" aired intact in Canada. It *was* our show, after
: all.
: We were just nice enough to share it with you.
Well, in the same sense that a hardware store is "nice enough" to sell a
wrench to a customer. In other words, it's done for money, not out of
the goodness of one's own heart.
(Sorry, business school training gets to you after a while.)
I love Due South and thank CTV and the whole country of Canada for making
it. But they sent it south for a license fee, not out of affection for
CBS, TNT, or other American viewers.
:-)
--
Allie
per...@assets.wharton.upenn.edu
--
David
news:75ol7g$q2c$1...@netnews.upenn.edu...
>
>: We were just nice enough to share it with you.
>
>Well, in the same sense that a hardware store is "nice enough" to sell a
>wrench to a customer. In other words, it's done for money, not out of
>the goodness of one's own heart.
>
>(Sorry, business school training gets to you after a while.)
>
>I love Due South and thank CTV and the whole country of Canada for making
>it. But they sent it south for a license fee, not out of affection for
>CBS, TNT, or other American viewers.
>
Obviously Due South has taught you nothing about Canada. We exist only for
the betterment of humankind, with no thought of money or profit. Fraser's
been working for the Chicago police department for three years, drawing no
salary, yet you think we're the sort of people who would charge for the
right to see his adventures.
Alliance let CBS have Due South in exchange for a 10-dollar donation to the
Mounties' Benevolent Association, I'll have you know!
But for the sake of Canada/US relations, I'll let your slur pass.
This time.
Ann Keitz
>Obviously Due South has taught you nothing about Canada. We exist only for
>the betterment of humankind, with no thought of money or profit. Fraser's
>been working for the Chicago police department for three years, drawing no
>salary, yet you think we're the sort of people who would charge for the
>right to see his adventures.
I'm not buying it pal. If Canada really cared they wouldn't have
foisted Celinne Dion on the rest of the world...
Annie Keitz
ke...@his.com
The Original Due South Convention
RCW 139 1999 August 5-8, 1999 Toronto, Canada
http://www.rcw139.ca/
David
news:36802c64...@news.his.com...
>On Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:37:06 -0500, "David" <da...@see.sig> wrote:
>>Obviously Due South has taught you nothing about Canada. We exist only for
>>the betterment of humankind, with no thought of money or profit. Fraser's
>>been working for the Chicago police department for three years, drawing no
>>salary, yet you think we're the sort of people who would charge for the
>>right to see his adventures.
>
>I'm not buying it pal. If Canada really cared they wouldn't have
>foisted Celinne Dion on the rest of the world...
>
Annie, Annie, Annie. There is being a good neighbour, then there's basic
self-preservation.
Canadanne
foisted Celinne Dion on the rest of the world...>>
Hey, what are you saying here??
Celine is fantastic!
- Anne :o)
JRD 203
Annie said:
>>I'm not buying it pal. If Canada really cared they wouldn't have
>>foisted Celinne Dion on the rest of the world...
>>
>Annie, Annie, Annie. There is being a good neighbour, then there's basic
>self-preservation.
Hey, but we got Gordon LIghtfoot! <G>
matheson
memorable night! Is he still alive? Didn't I see him years ago in the
Canadian video to feed the children of Africa?
Robin in NWFLorida
"stay"
JRD 203 wrote...
>snip<
J. McCracken
(Canadanne) wrote:
> Hey, what are you saying here??
> Celine is fantastic!
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Patrick JB
Federal Culture Commission..... there has been a strong lobby to invade the
USA and destroy all Ceiling Dion ( pronounced this was as that's how you
feel when she sings - like climbing the ceiling) recordings and launching
sites. Now, unfortunately, we shall have to settle for issuing strong words
[ of approximately four letters] to our Commonwealth cousins in Canada (we
couldn't do more than that - we're related :)
Patrick
Oh, Merry Christmas and good will to all........well,
most................well, some..........okay, to a select few..........two
maybe..........damn, okay........we'll include Ceiling Dion.
><<If Canada really cared they wouldn't have
>foisted Celinne Dion on the rest of the world...>>
>Hey, what are you saying here??
>Celine is fantastic!
>- Anne :o)
Valerie L. Magee
released a new album in May 1998 (A Painter Passing Through). Visit my web site
(URL at the end of this note) to learn a lot more. And yes, Lightfoot sang the
two opening lines of Tears Are Not Enough, the Canadian (Northern Lights)
contribution to the We Are The World effort. So, I guess he would have been in
the video although I never saw it. And, if the last time you saw him in concert
was 1972, you are long overdue!
matheson wrote:
--
Visit my Gordon Lightfoot webpage at:
Annie Keitz
wrote:
>Whatever happened to ol' Gordon Lightfoot? I saw him in concert in 1972 - a
>memorable night! Is he still alive? Didn't I see him years ago in the
>Canadian video to feed the children of Africa?
>Robin in NWFLorida
>"stay"
I think hard living has taken its toll on Gordon -- I vaguely recall a
comeback attempt a couple of years ago that the critics savaged
because his voice was gone.
Annie Keitz.
ke...@his.com.
matheson
Gordon's voice wasn't very strong. He lived hard and played hard, as I
recall. Still, I love his music.
Merry Christmas - Joyeux Noel!
Robin in NWFLorida, where it's cold and rainy
Dan Payne`
(about Veccio's childhood mobster acquaintance--where Fraser gets beaten
up and propositioned by Frannie). In the beginning where Fraser is
surrounded by the female choir in the church and Frannie comes galloping
in, both Veccio AND the priest say "God." TNT sure isn't consistent.
Barbara
Charter42 wrote:
>
> <briefly de-lurking again>
>
> My favorite bleep job occurs in MotB, when the censors drop the "God" in the
> repeated line "God damn them all" from Fraser's rendition of "Barrett's
> Privateers" -- although you can clearly see his mouth moving. Real class job,
> you know?
>
> You'd think they coulda told the poor guy, before he was broadcast looking like
> he had to repeatedly clear his ears due to a sudden altitude change, or
> something. ("<ear pop" damn them all!")
Faye Thorman
> foisted Celinne Dion on the rest of the world...>>
>
> Hey, what are you saying here??
> Celine is fantastic!
>
> - Anne :o)
>
>
Got to agree with you on that one Anne - unlike most Christmases the UK TV
schedulers actually seemed to have been kind enough to give us a little of
what we want - have you been enjoying all the Celine stuff on the telly
these past few days?
Faye
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One in four people is unbalanced. Think of three friends, if they seem OK, you're the one.
Charter42
>Obviously Due South has taught you nothing about Canada. We exist only for
>the betterment of humankind, with no thought of money or profit. Fraser's
>been working for the Chicago police department for three years, drawing no
>salary, yet you think we're the sort of people who would charge for the
>right to see his adventures.
>
>Mounties' Benevolent Association, I'll have you know!
>
>But for the sake of Canada/US relations, I'll let your slur pass.
>
>This time.
>
>
LOL! This might be a good place to plug my buddy Claire's website (without her
knowledge). She's the one who turned me onto DS; she also serves as my
personal not-particularly-confidential source for all information Canadian.
Before anyone gets upset (not that I think that'd be a problem with anyone
here, but you'd be AMAZED at the hate mail she gets) her website is intended
for entertainment purposes only.
Visit the official Canadian World Domination site at:
David
>David wrote:
>>Obviously Due South has taught you nothing about Canada. We exist only for
>>the betterment of humankind, with no thought of money or profit. Fraser's
>>been working for the Chicago police department for three years, drawing no
>>salary, yet you think we're the sort of people who would charge for the
>>right to see his adventures.
>>
>>Alliance let CBS have Due South in exchange for a 10-dollar donation to
the
>>Mounties' Benevolent Association, I'll have you know!
>>
>>But for the sake of Canada/US relations, I'll let your slur pass.
>>
>>This time.
>>
>>
>
>LOL! This might be a good place to plug my buddy Claire's website (without
her
>knowledge). She's the one who turned me onto DS; she also serves as my
>personal not-particularly-confidential source for all information Canadian.
>
>Before anyone gets upset (not that I think that'd be a problem with anyone
>here, but you'd be AMAZED at the hate mail she gets) her website is
intended
>for entertainment purposes only.
>
>Visit the official Canadian World Domination site at:
>
>http://www.golden.net/~cmkerr
Oddly enough I just found that site last night and plugged it in another
group. And yes, I've read some of the hate mail there.
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Canadanne
days?>>
Unfortunately I've been too busy to watch any of it :o(
I certainly found time for those 3 Due South episodes though!
- Anne :o)
Charter42
>Oddly enough I just found that site last night and plugged it in another
>group. And yes, I've read some of the hate mail there.
>
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Claire's the best, isn't she? I met her at my OTHER home away from home,
X-Ville (alt.tv.x-files.x-ville) where she posts as the Canadian Ambassador to
X-Ville, residing in the X-Ville Canadian Embassy which is, yes, populated with
Mountie clones Benny1 through Benny98. (Although to be fair they're only
GENETIC clones... in behavior, Ambassador Claire's clones show a distinct
Turnbull influence).
I'd been posting there for a month, and had grown quite fond of the clones
myself. Then one day, someone mentioned something about them looking a bit
like "that guy from Due South". I only started watching because I was getting
tired of missing all the blatant in-jokes! Shamefully, I'd never even heard of
the show until then!
Suffice it to say, now I'm hooked. Thoroughly and completely. As if you
couldn't tell...
Geoffrey Wood
Hmm.
I best shut up about that one.
Sieb.
J. McCracken wrote in message ...
>In article <19981222190502...@ng34.aol.com>, cana...@aol.com
>(Canadanne) wrote:
>> Hey, what are you saying here??
>> Celine is fantastic!
>I second that.
>
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>
Ruth
Damn that woman is thin! She looked great in the video from Sleepess in
Seattle but now looks like a scarecrow.
Patrick JB wrote in message <01be2e65$3b0f8500$cf0065cb@user1>...
>I have to say that this information shall be forwarded to the Australian
>Federal Culture Commission..... there has been a strong lobby to invade the
>USA and destroy all Ceiling Dion ( pronounced this was as that's how you
>feel when she sings - like climbing the ceiling) recordings and launching
>sites. Now, unfortunately, we shall have to settle for issuing strong words
>[ of approximately four letters] to our Commonwealth cousins in Canada (we
>couldn't do more than that - we're related :)
>
>Patrick
>
>Oh, Merry Christmas and good will to all........well,
>most................well, some..........okay, to a select few..........two
>maybe..........damn, okay........we'll include Ceiling Dion.
>
>><<If Canada really cared they wouldn't have
>>foisted Celinne Dion on the rest of the world...>>
>
>>Hey, what are you saying here??
>>Celine is fantastic!
>
>>- Anne :o)
Pamela T. Pon
>Apparently TNT is not editing everything. I just rewatched "The Deal"
>(about Veccio's childhood mobster acquaintance--where Fraser gets beaten
>up and propositioned by Frannie). In the beginning where Fraser is
>surrounded by the female choir in the church and Frannie comes galloping
>in, both Veccio AND the priest say "God." TNT sure isn't consistent.
>
>Barbara
Ahh, but to the all-knowing ears of the censors, "God" isn't verboten
unless used in conjunction with "damn" or "damned." In that sense,
they are being consistent -- idiotic, but consistent.
Inconsistency is FOX cutting out an exchange between 2 SPACE: ABOVE AND
BEYOND characters because one of them uttered the dreaded word "testicles"
(a scene which aired *intact* on Canadian TV ... as it were ;-),
even though an X-FILES episode had broadcast that same word in its
full surround-sound glory the season before!
Have all the DS episodes with TNT-bleeped words been preceded with the
"edited for content" warning so far??
If so, they've been a lot more considerate about informing viewers than
A&E, USA, or the Sci-Fi Channel have... >;-T
Thank God for TNT and FX: "in order and uncut"!
(Oops, I said "God" ... =;-o
J. McCracken
wrote:
> Ahh, but to the all-knowing ears of the censors, "God" isn't verboten
Franchesca says "Over, flat, down, sideways..."
Charter42
late, and I'm tired)... I've noticed many occasions when a thrown punch (the
results of which indicate that it did land properly) doesn't connect with any
noise. Is this a Foley goof, or some kind of weird censorship?
If it helps any, I first noticed it in (boy I hope this is right) MotB #1 -- in
the version I saw (on TNT) there were zero sound effects for Fraser's punch. I
thought he'd deliberately missed, but the context made it clear he'd connected.
Also at the end of CotW #2 -- ditto no sound effects on Fraser Sr.'s behalf.
Or is it just me again?
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JRD 203
In article <19981230020120...@ng146.aol.com>, char...@aol.com
(Charter42) writes:
>Here's an odd little question that I haven't bothered to ask before (but it's
>late, and I'm tired)... I've noticed many occasions when a thrown punch (the
>results of which indicate that it did land properly) doesn't connect with any
>noise. Is this a Foley goof, or some kind of weird censorship?
>
>If it helps any, I first noticed it in (boy I hope this is right) MotB #1 --
>in>the version I saw (on TNT) there were zero sound effects for Fraser's
punch.
>I>thought he'd deliberately missed, but the context made it clear he'd
>connected.> Also at the end of CotW #2 -- ditto no sound effects on Fraser
Sr.'s behalf.
Fraser's Sr's punches don't make noise I guess because he's a ghost, but I
sorta recall noise when Fraser hit Stan, but since I saw it at 1 a.m. on its
original run, I can't recall. I think I taped it on MOTB for a dual copy so I
guess I could go back and check....
Longshanks
JRD 203 wrote:
> (Charter42) writes:
>
> >I've noticed many occasions when a thrown punch (the
> >results of which indicate that it did land properly) doesn't connect with any
> >noise.
> >
> >If it helps any, I first noticed it in (boy I hope this is right) MotB #1 --
> >in>the version I saw (on TNT) there were zero sound effects for Fraser's
> punch.
> >I>thought he'd deliberately missed, but the context made it clear he'd
> >connected.> Also at the end of CotW #2 -- ditto no sound effects on Fraser
> Sr.'s behalf.
>
> Fraser's Sr's punches don't make noise I guess because he's a ghost, but I
> sorta recall noise when Fraser hit Stan, but since I saw it at 1 a.m. on its
> original run, I can't recall. I think I taped it on MOTB for a dual copy so I
> guess I could go back and check....
Yes, I'd have to say that Fraser's punch in "Mountie On The Bounty" Pt. 1 was
rather ineptly filmed. It is pretty obvious that he missed RayK, but he is
supposed to have hit him. And there is a sound effect, but it's not very loud and
gets kind of mixed in with RayK's grunt as he's supposed to be hit.
Ed Wilson
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Michael Matalis
doesn't make all that much noise. (Unless someone punches me, then I get
downright pathetic)
Mike Matalis
Watauga TX
Charter42 wrote in message <19981230020120...@ng146.aol.com>...
>Here's an odd little question that I haven't bothered to ask before (but
it's
>late, and I'm tired)... I've noticed many occasions when a thrown punch
(the
>results of which indicate that it did land properly) doesn't connect with
any
>noise. Is this a Foley goof, or some kind of weird censorship?
>
>If it helps any, I first noticed it in (boy I hope this is right) MotB
#1 -- in
>the version I saw (on TNT) there were zero sound effects for Fraser's
punch. I
>thought he'd deliberately missed, but the context made it clear he'd
connected.
> Also at the end of CotW #2 -- ditto no sound effects on Fraser Sr.'s
behalf.
>