Fraser, Gay?
RCMPcanada
"fruity" aspects? I'm not trying to badmouth the best mountie Tuktoyaktuk has
to offer or the actual Paul Gross, but look at this:
- At the beginning of Victoria's Secret pt1, Fraser wasn't trying to get
intimate with Metcalfe. Doesn't this seem odd, eh?
- He somewhat gets the attraction of Turnbull (possibly bi). He responds with
the Tuktoyaktuk thank you kindly.
- And he just acts queer. And he taught Detective S R Kowalski the saying
"Something's queer."
I rest my case. The topic on dueSOUTH.Homepage.com starting Sunday is Fraser.
Gay or Not? That's at http://duesouth.homepage.com/
Stanley Raymond Kowalski, R.C.M.P
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MadiHolmes
>Has anyone noticed since 1994 that dueSOUTH character Benton Fraser has some
>"fruity" aspects?
Apparently, he never saw MotB <"buddy breathing" and all that:>. Actually,
there are MANY slash related stories out there having do with almost every
character of dS (mostly involving Bennie and one of the Rays :)
However, there are also MANY nonslash stories out there. It just depends on how
you interpret it.
sHolmes
Keeper of RayK's and RayV's Mountie Uniforms
JRD 203
(RCMPcanada) writes:
>Has anyone noticed since 1994 that dueSOUTH character Benton Fraser has some
>"fruity" aspects? I'm not trying to badmouth the best mountie Tuktoyaktuk has
>to offer or the actual Paul Gross, but look at this:
>
>- At the beginning of Victoria's Secret pt1, Fraser wasn't trying to get
>intimate with Metcalfe. Doesn't this seem odd, eh?
No, not really. Some people have restraint or morals by which they live, or can
resist temptation (well, he finally gave in).
>- He somewhat gets the attraction of Turnbull (possibly bi). He responds with
>the Tuktoyaktuk thank you kindly.
Oh, never thought Turnbull was gay or bi, just odd (like a quart low in the
crankcase). Turnbull hero-worships Fraser.
>
>- And he just acts queer. And he taught Detective S R Kowalski the saying
>"Something's queer."
That's an old expression, when the word queer meant strange or odd (before most
folks' time, like when 'gay' meant happy).
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Mary
> - At the beginning of Victoria's Secret pt1, Fraser wasn't trying to get
> intimate with Metcalfe. Doesn't this seem odd, eh?
Nope. Where I'm from (West Texas) it's called being a gentleman. Ideally
and traditionally back home, the way a gentleman shows interest in a
lady is by following her around, looking sincere and soulful, keeping
his eyes and hands away from inappropriate places, and (if he's really
overcome with emotion) holding her hand. Maybe it's an example of
sociological Darwinism: male self-control does have its rewards in
other, ah, situations.
- Mary
MARYEKELCH
>- At the beginning of Victoria's Secret pt1, Fraser wasn't trying to get
>intimate with Metcalfe. Doesn't this seem odd, eh?
Huh?! Are you joking? He didn't rape her, no, that's not Fraser. But he
definitely wanted to get intimate.
"Should I walk you to your door?"
- Benton Fraser to Victoria Metcalf (said with hopeful gleam in his
eye, followed by obvious "let down" look when she said no)
(Charm was working overtime during this scene!)
Mary K - Keeper of Benny's runny pantyhose and his preparedness, or lack
thereof, "Ace Leary" and his GS homerun ball, and of Ray Vecchio's sexy "Thank
you KINDLY, Elaine."
Longshanks
RCMPcanada wrote:
> - At the beginning of Victoria's Secret pt1, Fraser wasn't trying to get
> intimate with Metcalfe. Doesn't this seem odd, eh?
Not really. I was with my last girlfriend -- including weekend sleepovers -- for
more than three months before we got more intimate. It's not that difficult to
hold yourself back, if you try, and it just makes the whole relationship better.
> - He somewhat gets the attraction of Turnbull (possibly bi). He responds with
> the Tuktoyaktuk thank you kindly.
...Uh... I'm not sure what you're referring to. What does "gets the attraction
of Turnbull" mean?
> - And he just acts queer. And he taught Detective S R Kowalski the saying
> "Something's queer."
"He just acts queer". Hm. There's nothing like a vague generalization to really
pin things down.
> I rest my case. The topic on dueSOUTH.Homepage.com starting Sunday is Fraser.
> Gay or Not?
Not.
Ed Wilson
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Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
MARYEKELCH wrote:
> rcmpcanada wrote:
>
> >- At the beginning of Victoria's Secret pt1, Fraser wasn't trying to get
> >intimate with Metcalfe. Doesn't this seem odd, eh?
>
> Huh?! Are you joking? He didn't rape her, no, that's not Fraser. But he
> definitely wanted to get intimate.
Mary Mary Mary Mary ...
uh, how can I put this delicately?
Perhaps we need to bear in mind, dear,
that this is a guy's perspective, not seen
the same way as we of the superior ...
I mean opposite ... sex might see it <g>
> "Should I walk you to your door?"
> - Benton Fraser to Victoria Metcalf (said with hopeful gleam in his
> eye, followed by obvious "let down" look when she said no)
>
> (Charm was working overtime during this scene!)
>
Actually by then I was getting absolutely ...nonononononono...
think yellow think yellow think yellow
lower your heart rate
"OMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!"
Charm
Keeper of Fraser's libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort plus Dief 2's tam set
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
Longshanks wrote:
> RCMPcanada wrote:
>
> > - At the beginning of Victoria's Secret pt1, Fraser wasn't trying to get
> > intimate with Metcalfe. Doesn't this seem odd, eh?
>
> Not really. I was with my last girlfriend -- including weekend sleepovers -- for
> more than three months before we got more intimate. It's not that difficult to
> hold yourself back, if you try, and it just makes the whole relationship better.
Well I'm impressed!
(unless, of course, you're just Being A Guy and making that up)
NO! Kidding! Please, no dead otters!
Look-look: Multiple emoticon-thinigies
even though I know you don't like them!
:-)
;-)
;>)))))))
(what the heck was that last one?!)
No, I believe you, Ed...
But real men also dance, you know, Ed;
So ... did you ever talk to Suz about "that little matter?"
Charm
Tired and silly Keeper of Fraser's libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort plus Dief 2's
tam set
SGM III
>> intimate with Metcalfe. Doesn't this seem odd, eh?
>
>and traditionally back home, the way a gentleman shows interest in a
>lady is by following her around, looking sincere and soulful, keeping
>his eyes and hands away from inappropriate places, and (if he's really
>overcome with emotion) holding her hand. Maybe it's an example of
>sociological Darwinism: male self-control does have its rewards in
>other, ah, situations.
>
I also put it down, in part, to Fraser being unsure exactly how far Victoria
wanted the relationship to go. He does have a difficult time expressing his
feelings so he could have wanted to wait before opening himself up. He was
very obviously attracted to her from the second he saw her in the diner. She's
not stupid she could tell and wanted to string him along.
Anna
MARYEKELCH
>> Not really. I was with my last girlfriend -- including weekend sleepovers
>-- for
>> more than three months before we got more intimate. It's not that
>difficult to
>> hold yourself back, if you try, and it just makes the whole relationship
>better.
>
Then Charm wrote:
>Well I'm impressed!
>
Moi aussi! And when you think how long they could have dragged out that
unmentionable dS episode if Fraser had shown such restraint -- well, the mind
boggles! <VBG>
Mary K - Keeper of Benny's runny pantyhose and his preparedness, or lack
thereof (which would the above example be?), "Ace Leary" and his GS homerun
ball, and of Ray Vecchio's ever-restrained "Thank you KINDLY, Elaine."
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
Mary wrote:
> RCMPcanada wrote:
> > - At the beginning of Victoria's Secret pt1, Fraser wasn't trying to get
> > intimate with Metcalfe. Doesn't this seem odd, eh?
>
> Nope. Where I'm from (West Texas) it's called being a gentleman. Ideally
> and traditionally back home, the way a gentleman shows interest in a
> lady is by following her around, looking sincere and soulful, keeping
> his eyes and hands away from inappropriate places, and (if he's really
> overcome with emotion) holding her hand. Maybe it's an example of
> sociological Darwinism: male self-control does have its rewards in
> other, ah, situations.
>
>
And that thunderous noise we hear is the sound ofwomen from all 49 other
states stampeding to be
among the first to move to west Texas! <g>
Good grief, Mary; why would you ever leave?!?!?!
(Could someone just help me tie this suitcase on top of the car please?)
Charm
Keeper of Fraser's West Texas libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort plus Dief
2's tam set
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
MARYEKELCH wrote:
> Longshanks wrote:
>
> >> Not really. I was with my last girlfriend -- including weekend sleepovers
> >-- for
> >> more than three months before we got more intimate. It's not that
> >difficult to
> >> hold yourself back, if you try, and it just makes the whole relationship
> >better.
> >
>
> Then Charm wrote:
>
> >Well I'm impressed!
> >
>
> Moi aussi! And when you think how long they could have dragged out that
> unmentionable dS episode if Fraser had shown such restraint -- well, the mind
> boggles! <VBG>
Remember that Edvard Munch painting?
(*o*)
>
CharmKeeper of Fraser's libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort plus Dief 2's tam set
Mayan rain
In the traditional sense of odd, yes. I don't know what *you're* talking
about.... (Well, yes, okay, I do, but I don't get it. Like Ed said, a
generalization like that hardly makes a case.)
>>And he taught Detective S R Kowalski the saying
>> "Something's queer."
No, that's pretty much just a Ray thing, isn't it? I have a friend who says it
all the time, you know, "That's queer" when something's strange. Far as I know,
*she's* not gay.
I'm surprised he didn't mention Ms. Fraser, or buddy-breathing, or "I thought
we were just friends, Ray," or "I love you, Fraser" / "And I you, Ray"....
For the record, i'm a devout slasher (have been since "Chasing Amy"- not
exactly an alumni, but....), but I don't think Fraser's gay. There's a
distinction there. Bi, possibly. In my slash universe, yes. Back to Chasing
Amy- I go with Alyssa's philosophy- you limit yourself to one sex, you cut out
half of your chance of finding your perfect soul mate. But that's beside the
point.
Strange examples you picked. I don't agree with them, but then, that's me.
(Though apparently i'm not alone.)
maya
"no millennial fear, happens every year"
Mary
>
> Good grief, Mary; why would you ever leave?!?!?!
I was fortunate enough to bag my limit of one, and he happily followed
me out to California sight unseen (of California I mean, he'd seen me
before)...I'll warn you however that not all Texan males follow the
traditional chivalrous approach...Texan men have also inspired plenty of
country & western cheatin' and cryin' songs...
- Mary
QUELIN
QUELIN
>>> - At the beginning of Victoria's Secret pt1, Fraser wasn't trying to get
>>> intimate with Metcalfe. Doesn't this seem odd, eh?
Aside from being a gentleman, Fraser may have had a fear of rejection where she
was concerned.
Quelin
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
Mary wrote:
> Charmaine Engelsman-Robins wrote:
> >
> > Good grief, Mary; why would you ever leave?!?!?!
>
> I was fortunate enough to bag my limit of one, and he happily followed
> me out to California sight unseen (of California I mean, he'd seen me
> before)...
Oh! jeez, you had me goin' for a minute there! <G>
> I'll warn you however that not all Texan males follow the
> traditional chivalrous approach...Texan men have also inspired plenty of
> country & western cheatin' and cryin' songs...
>
>
CURSE this Baby Boomer Brain Drain!O.K., can't recall who said it, but when
discussing the women of today's country music someone observed that "female
country singers were once pretty much stuck with 'you cheat on me you'll
break my heart' but that that has now changed to 'you cheat on me I'll kick
your ...' " <G>
(Works for me!)
Charm
LadyShoes
>I agree he was being a gentleman.>
Fraser had been brought up with a code of chivalry unknown to (most of)
today's men. This makes his behaviour seem "odd". They spend the evening
together at his apartment, surrounded by candles, watching an old film - and
apart from a moment when their hands brush while preparing a meal, they
hardly touch. He had plenty of opportunity to make a pass, but didn't.
When he says, "Shall I walk you to your door?" I don't think this was with
anything more in mind than continuing the gentlemanly thing and ensuring she
got home safely. Of course, VM had to say no, because she wasn't really
staying at that hotel. And which is why, having failed to get him to make a
pass, she had to go back to his apartment and push a few more guilt buttons.
>He was very obviously attracted to her from the second he saw her in the
diner.>
He was attracted from the time he tracked her to Fortitude Pass.
>She's not stupid she could tell and wanted to string him along.>
Oh yes.
(I knew this wouldn't go away for long! Sorry, Charm!)
MARYEKELCH
>Remember that Edvard Munch painting?
>(*o*)
>
No. Explain, please!
Mary K - Keeper of Benny's runny pantyhose and his preparedness, or lack
thereof, "Ace Leary" and his GS homerun ball, and of Ray Vecchio's artful
"Thank you KINDLY, Elaine."
Jeffcourt9
>> unmentionable dS episode if Fraser had shown such restraint -- well, the
>mind
>> boggles! <VBG>
Then Charm wrote:
>
>Remember that Edvard Munch painting?
LOL!!!!
Jeff
Proud and dutiful keeper of inspector Thatcher's long, beautiful second season
hair and Dief's phobia of Pink Flamingos
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
MARYEKELCH wrote:
> Charm asked:
>
> >Remember that Edvard Munch painting?
> >(*o*)
> >
>
> No. Explain, please!
>
Hm, I guess my emoticon art leaves a little something to be desired, huh?
I was attempting to depict my reaction to the suggestion that VS could have
gone on and on and on beyond two eps; that was supposed to be the
keyboard depiction of "The Scream."
Guess I better stick to practicing my fan kicks and watching over the
introductory vegetarian pemmican <G>
Charm
Art-challenged Keeper of Fraser's Libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort plus
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
LadyShoes wrote:
Oh don't be sorry!
I love when people say bad stuff about that evil, nasty, wicked, vile ...
but I digress.
I just get rattled when The Other Side gets expressed <g>
Feel free to slam Icky Vicky in my presence any time!
Charm
Keeper of Fraser's libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort plus Dief 2's tam set
LadyShoes
"Calling Dr Freud!"
(How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light-bulb?
Just one, but the light-bulb has really got to *want* to change.)
NEXRADGirl
Get out! Where in West Texas? Well, being also from West Texas, I gotta agree
with you on the whole gentleman point. What is Fraser? He's Dudley Do-Right,
he's the perfect man. Well, to women at least, the perfect man wouldn't be all
over her constantly. Not to mention, I don't know if you actually watched all
of VS but, they had some ongoing issues. That would certainly slow me down in
jumping in the sack right away. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents worth. And
Maya, as usual, you're right. :) "That's queer" is strictly a RayK thing. I
don't ever recall Fraser saying it. Ray kinda surprised us with it in
"Eclipse" IIRC. So, Ben did not "teach" Ray that saying.
Erin. :o)
Keeper of Stan's GTO, Hair, Sarcastic attitude, & CD collection, Frannie's
wardrobe, & the apartment dance scene in "Strange Bedfellows".
My Keeper Quote:
"Get off me exclamation mark!"-- Stan *Ray* Kowalski (Callum K. Rennie)
--"dueSouth"
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
LadyShoes wrote:
> Just noticed the typo I slipped into this subject header:
>
> "Calling Dr Freud!"
LOL
That's what I call "A Freudian Fraserism"
>
>
> (How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light-bulb?
> Just one, but the light-bulb has really got to *want* to change.)
Oh, well then, that leaves dim-bulb Vicky out!
Whynot
Gosh, is it trolling season again?
Ignore this guy. He's just trying to get a reaction from people.
Obviously someone who has more time than brains.
B
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins wrote:
>
> MARYEKELCH wrote:
>
> > rcmpcanada wrote:
> >
> > >- At the beginning of Victoria's Secret pt1, Fraser wasn't trying to get
> > >intimate with Metcalfe. Doesn't this seem odd, eh?
> >
--
Great Scott! Turtles!
Otterlady (riv...@hotmail.com)
MARYEKELCH
>> >Remember that Edvard Munch painting?
>> >(*o*)
>> >
>Hm, I guess my emoticon art leaves a little something to be desired, huh?
>I was attempting to depict my reaction to the suggestion that VS could have
>gone on and on and on beyond two eps; that was supposed to be the
>keyboard depiction of "The Scream."
>Guess I better stick to practicing my fan kicks and watching over the
>introductory vegetarian pemmican <G>
No, I'm probably just a little slow when it comes to deciphering those emoticon
thingamajigs! I got ya now! Very good! TYK!
Mary K - Keeper of Benny's runny pantyhose and his preparedness, or lack
thereof, "Ace Leary" and his GS homerun ball, and of Ray Vecchio's
emoticon-less "Thank you KINDLY, Elaine."
MARYEKELCH
Vicky because he was unable to track down the "cilantro." (aka "preparedness"
aka (whispering) c-o-n-d-o-m-s.) Must've been a full moon that night, or
something, and there was a rush on "cilantro." So, being the responsible scout
he is, he decided they'd have to settle for a movie and ice cream. Until, of
course, Vicky went home and brought back some of her own personal stash. Makes
perfect sense to me. I mean, if I had written the episode...
(VVBG - please don't throw anything!)
Mary K - Keeper of Benny's runny pantyhose and his cilantro, or lack thereof,
"Ace Leary" and his GS homerun ball, and of Ray Vecchio's boy scout-like "Thank
you KINDLY, Elaine."
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
MARYEKELCH wrote:
> It's staring us right in the face. Fraser didn't jump right into the sack with
> Vicky because he was unable to track down the "cilantro." (aka "preparedness"
> aka (whispering) c-o-n-d-o-m-s.) Must've been a full moon that night, or
> something, and there was a rush on "cilantro."
"Cilantro?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"
ROTFLOLWCCOOMN
Is this a personal euphemism, Mary,
or have I so totally blocked out this ep that I forgot something?
Hoo-hoo...
"cilantro"
(Charm, laughing uncontrollably,
leaves the ng momentarily to look for something to wipe the tears out of her eyes)
Charm
Keeper of Fraser's libido (but after thoroughly checking her spice cabinet assures
one and all, ONLY his libido, not his cilantro) and "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort and Dief
2's tam set,
MARYEKELCH
>"Cilantro?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"
>ROTFLOLWCCOOMN
>Is this a personal euphemism, Mary,
>or have I so totally blocked out this ep that I forgot something?
>
Oh, no, I didn't make this up (well, not totally :o)). When Fraser returns to
his apartment to find Vicky starting to cook their dinner, he apologizes for
taking so long with the shopping. He couldn't find the cilantro. He gives a
little spiel about how he did spy traces of it somewhere, but was unable to
track it down. Vicky asks him what he bought instead, and he answers "ice
cream." (Not exactly interchangeable foodstuffs, but when translated as in my
theory, it makes perfect sense, don't ya think?!)
I would hazard a guess that I've watched this ep more often than you have (?),
so I suppose insignificant scenes like this one stick with me more. BUT, is it
insignificant? The writers must have had a purpose for this little exchange,
and Ben does admit shortly thereafter that he's not quite prepared for
anything. So...putting two and two together...well, I have to admit, I never
understood math after 9th grade.
If you think you can stomach it (sorry for the pun), pop your video in,
assuming you've kept one, and see what you think. No need to torture yourself
with the whole 2 hours. It's right after Ben and Vicky leave the Patrician for
their next date (now that Ben finally has an appetite -- no double entendre
intended, I swear!).
Oh, BTW, what is "WCCOOMN" that comes after ROTFLOL? Did you make THAT up?
Mary K - Keeper of Benny's runny pantyhose and his cilantro, or lack thereof,
"Ace Leary" and his GS homerun ball, and of Ray Vecchio's spicy "Thank you
KINDLY, Elaine."
jeanie w.
maya...@aol.com (Mayan rain) wrote:
> I'm surprised he didn't mention Ms. Fraser, or buddy-breathing, or "I
thought we were just friends, Ray," or "I love you, Fraser" / "And I
you, Ray"....
>
Hi Maya! Which episode did that last exchange come from? The "I love
you, Fraser"/"And I you, Ray" (Pardon my forgetfulness. I've been away
on a business trip and am suffering from a weeklong DS-withdrawal. Brain
stopped functioning. Still, I know I know that quote but can't place it
and it's driving me crazy! Thanks!)
jeanie
Absent-minded keeper of miss burns' dance with fraser (esp. the dip!),
the aforementioned buddy breathing and Buck Frobisher's fabulous "March
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In article <375A8AF2...@home.com>, Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
<bheprod...@home.com> wrote:
MARYEKELCH wrote:
> Charm asked:
>
> >Remember that Edvard Munch painting?
> >(*o*)
> >
>
> No. Explain, please!
>
Hm, I guess my emoticon art leaves a little something to be desired, huh?
I was attempting to depict my reaction to the suggestion that VS could have
gone on and on and on beyond two eps; that was supposed to be the
keyboard depiction of "The Scream."
Guess I better stick to practicing my fan kicks and watching over the
introductory vegetarian pemmican <G>
Charm
Art-challenged Keeper of Fraser's Libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort plus
Demeter
>
> > It's staring us right in the face. Fraser didn't jump right into the
sack with
> > Vicky because he was unable to track down the "cilantro." (aka
"preparedness"
> > aka (whispering) c-o-n-d-o-m-s.) Must've been a full moon that night,
or
> > something, and there was a rush on "cilantro."
>
>
>
> ROTFLOLWCCOOMN
> Is this a personal euphemism, Mary,
> or have I so totally blocked out this ep that I forgot something?
>
> "cilantro"
>
> (Charm, laughing uncontrollably,
> leaves the ng momentarily to look for something to wipe the tears out of
her eyes)
>
>
> Charm
> Keeper of Fraser's libido (but after thoroughly checking her spice cabinet
assures
> one and all, ONLY his libido, not his cilantro) and "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort
and Dief
> 2's tam set,
Charm! You okay? Remember to breathe!
Oh, Mary. Good observation. I didn't catch that. Of course, the whole
time I was watching that ep, I was working out various missing scenes for
the ending. Kinda distracting.
Anyway, I don't think Fraser's gay or bi. He's all nice and straight.
Trust me on this. I know whereof I speak.
Ask nice, and I might tell you guys all about it. Or not. :)
Demeter, Princess of Earth
'Remember, I have fire and I'm not afraid to use it!'
MARYEKELCH
>
>Anyway, I don't think Fraser's gay or bi. He's all nice and straight.
>Trust me on this.
Totally agree! No question!
Now, as to the naming of the welcome dancers, in light of the recent "cilantro"
theory, how about "Spice Girls?" What? Oh, really? That's already taken?
Shucks!
Mary K - Keeper of Benny's runny pantyhose and his "cilantro," or lack thereof,
"Ace Leary" and his GS homerun ball, and of Ray Vecchio's straight "Thank you
KINDLY, Elaine."
Vicki
I just wonder what they did with the ice cream };->
RF
Vic..
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Mayan rain
>you, Fraser"/"And I you, Ray"
That was in "Seeing is believing", with New Ray(tm) (which if i'm not mistaken,
was just last Friday....) it was.. okay, spoilers:
*
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*
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*
*
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It was right after Fraser proved that the girl couldn't have been the murderer.
Ray was thrilled that he'd proved Thatcher's theory wrong... commence "I love
you Fraser", "And I you, Ray". 'Course, then Ray went on and said, "I mean
symbolically." "Of course." What the hell is symbolically? <g>
Anyway. That's when.
maya
jeanie
week), so I'll have to revisit it tonight!
TYK, Maya!
jeanie
Satisfied keeper of miss burns' dance with benny (esp. the
dip!), buddy breathing (only a week away) and buck
frobisher's ever-stirring "March the 11th" speech
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Mary
inciting of sensitive ng members on their forbidden topics. Between the
smoke coming out of Charm's ears and Demeter's fire, we'll fry the
newsgroup servers and then where will we be.
- one of the other Marys (looking for the fire extinquisher just in
case)
MARYEKELCH wrote:
> Charm, are you SURE you want to know? I suspect Demeter is not her given name.
> That part about having fire and not being afraid to use it conjures up images
> of a burning cabin up in the wilds of Northern Canada. <g>
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
Su Mrozinski wrote:
> How's this? Works for me...
> .----------.
> / .-. .-. \
> / | | | | \
> \ `-' `-' _/
> /\ .--. / |
> \ | / / / /
> / | `--' /\ \
> /`-------' \ \ --PiCTuRe By aN uNKNoWN aSCii aRTiST--
> Be careful what you ask for - you might get it...
> --Chinese proverb
>
>
WOW!!!!!!
How excellent!!
I love it!
Charm
Non-artistic Keeper of Fraser's libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort plsu Dief
2's tam set and Ray K's wistfulness and way with words
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
MARYEKELCH wrote:
> Oh, BTW, what is "WCCOOMN" that comes after ROTFLOL? Did you make THAT up?
>
"With Cappuccino Coming Out of My Nose"
(I hope you didn't think it stood for cilantro <g>)
In "real life" I'm (in)famous for living on
iced cappuccino and nicotine gum when I'm
on a heavy work schedule.
(Sorry; didn't mean to be obscure.)
Charm
Keeper of Fraser's libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort plus Dief 2's tam set and
RayK's wistfulness and way with words
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
Demeter wrote:
> > MARYEKELCH wrote:
> >
> > > It's staring us right in the face. Fraser didn't jump right into the
> sack with
> > > Vicky because he was unable to track down the "cilantro." (aka
> "preparedness"
> > > aka (whispering) c-o-n-d-o-m-s.) Must've been a full moon that night,
> or
> > > something, and there was a rush on "cilantro."
> >
> >
> >
> > "Cilantro?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"
> > ROTFLOLWCCOOMN
> > Is this a personal euphemism, Mary,
> > or have I so totally blocked out this ep that I forgot something?
> >
> > Hoo-hoo...
> > "cilantro"
> >
> > (Charm, laughing uncontrollably,
> > leaves the ng momentarily to look for something to wipe the tears out of
> her eyes)
> >
> >
> > Charm
> > Keeper of Fraser's libido (but after thoroughly checking her spice cabinet
> assures
> > one and all, ONLY his libido, not his cilantro) and "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort
> and Dief
> > 2's tam set,
>
> Charm! You okay? Remember to breathe!
Ommmmmmmmmmmmm (yellow yellow yellow)
> Oh, Mary. Good observation. I didn't catch that. Of course, the whole
> time I was watching that ep, I was working out various missing scenes for
> the ending. Kinda distracting.
>
> Anyway, I don't think Fraser's gay or bi. He's all nice and straight.
> Trust me on this. I know whereof I speak.
> Ask nice, and I might tell you guys all about it. Or not. :)
>
I'm askin'! I'm askin'!
Charm
keeper of Fraser's libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort plsu Dief 2's tam set and
RayK's wistfulness and his way with words
MARYEKELCH
>MARYEKELCH wrote:
>
>> Oh, BTW, what is "WCCOOMN" that comes after ROTFLOL? Did you make THAT up?
Charm answered:
>
>"With Cappuccino Coming Out of My Nose"
>(I hope you didn't think it stood for cilantro <g>)
>
My, my, how picturesque! <G> Now that I re-read it, it's SO obvious. I
should've been able to figure that out. Must be losing my Edge. TYK for
giving me such a great image to go to sleep to!
Mary K - Keeper of Benny's runny pantyhose and his "cilantro," or lack thereof,
"Ace Leary" and his GS homerun ball, and of Ray Vecchio's caffeinated "Thank
you KINDLY, Elaine."
MARYEKELCH
> Anyway, I don't think Fraser's gay or bi. He's all nice and straight.
>> Trust me on this. I know whereof I speak.
>> Ask nice, and I might tell you guys all about it. Or not. :)
>> Demeter, Princess of Earth
>> 'Remember, I have fire and I'm not afraid to use it!'
>
>
Charm begged:
>I'm askin'! I'm askin'!
Charm, are you SURE you want to know? I suspect Demeter is not her given name.
That part about having fire and not being afraid to use it conjures up images
of a burning cabin up in the wilds of Northern Canada. <g>
Mary K - Keeper of Benny's runny pantyhose and his "cilantro," or lack thereof,
"Ace Leary" and his GS homerun ball, and of Ray Vecchio's burned out "Thank you
KINDLY, Elaine."
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
MARYEKELCH wrote:
> It's staring us right in the face. Fraser didn't jump right into the sack with
> Vicky because he was unable to track down the "cilantro." (aka "preparedness"
> aka (whispering) c-o-n-d-o-m-s.) Must've been a full moon that night, or
> something, and there was a rush on "cilantro."
O.K., this is sort of OT except that PG is on RG and somebody just asked about it
and I referred them to some RG site. I wandered back there myslef for a quick
giggle, and when I found this quote from the show couldn't resist posting it for
you (under-18-ng member please cover your eyes):
Harold Green: We have a condom machine at school. It's always
broken, but it's fun to think about.
Charm
Keeper of Fraser's libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort, Dief 2's tam set, and
RayK's wistfulness plus his way with words
Demeter
direction, holding a good-size fireball)
Well, since Charm asked so nice, I'll tell you SOME of my story. This is
true by the way, which is why I'm not saying any names.
Two of my closest friends are quite often thought to be gay, which they
definately are not, as the y'd be the first to shout. They get that a lot.
They only give people cause to wonder when they have a little too much to
drink. Then even I wonder. Scary.
Anyway, that's how I know Benny is not gay. He and RayV's relationship is
just like that of my friends. Any of you think that one would gladly die
for the other? I do. In fact, Ray has come close, ne? They seem to know
each other's thoughts? See Red, White or Blue if you doubt that one.
Simply put, one can't live without the other.
What about RayK you ask? Or don't ask. Well, I think those two are more
like brothers than the soulmate thing Benny and RayV have going on.
Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
Demeter wrote:
> MaryK, are you implying something? Hmmm? (Demeter glares in Mary's general
> direction, holding a good-size fireball)
>
> Well, since Charm asked so nice, I'll tell you SOME of my story. This is
> true by the way, which is why I'm not saying any names.
>
> Two of my closest friends are quite often thought to be gay, which they
> definately are not, <snip>
Lots of my friends are musicians, artists, writers, and you'd be surprised how
randomly, in the south at least, non-neanderthal types are instantly assigned
erroneous labels. If you'd like to see an interesting article on this by a
really good new writer, check out his zine athttp://www.brettnews.com/36/
Charm
Keeper of Fraser's libido and his "LO/FD/TU/L!' retort, Deif 2's tam set, RayK's
wistfulness and his Way With Words
>
Annie Keitz
<bheprod...@home.com> wrote:
>Demeter wrote:
>
>> MaryK, are you implying something? Hmmm? (Demeter glares in Mary's general
>> direction, holding a good-size fireball)
>>
>> Well, since Charm asked so nice, I'll tell you SOME of my story. This is
>> true by the way, which is why I'm not saying any names.
>>
>> Two of my closest friends are quite often thought to be gay, which they
>> definately are not, <snip>
>
>Lots of my friends are musicians, artists, writers, and you'd be surprised how
>randomly, in the south at least, non-neanderthal types are instantly assigned
>erroneous labels. If you'd like to see an interesting article on this by a
>really good new writer, check out his zine athttp://www.brettnews.com/36/
Hee woe to the guy who likes show tunes...
But just as there are folks in those fields who are straight, there
are many gays out there in traditional "neanderthal" type occupations
too <g>. Me? I could have bought into the notion that Fraser was gay
maybe but only before referenced Victoria ("There was a woman
once...").
IMO the guy who posted his theory was doing a wee bit of mild trolling
;-) I bet he wanted to see if the topic would get a rise outta ya.
But this is alt.tv.due-south. We've been trolled before and saavy
enough to not take the bait...
Annie Keitz
an...@rcw139.org
Annie Keitz, is a duly authorized representative of RCW 139, Inc., the
organizers of the original convention for the fans of Due South, including
the Fourth Annual Charity Auction. For more information,
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Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
Annie Keitz wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:56:45 GMT, Charmaine Engelsman-Robins
> <bheprod...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >Lots of my friends are musicians, artists, writers, and you'd be surprised how
> >randomly, in the south at least, non-neanderthal types are instantly assigned
> >erroneous labels. If you'd like to see an interesting article on this by a
> >really good new writer, check out his zine athttp://www.brettnews.com/36/
>
> (Then Annie replied) Hee woe to the guy who likes show tunes...
> But just as there are folks in those fields who are straight, there
> are many gays out there in traditional "neanderthal" type occupations
> too <g>.
<snip>
... hence The Village People <G>
Charm
Keeper of Fraser's libido and "LO/FD/TU/L!" retort
Dief 2's tam set
and RayK's wistfulness and Way With Words
Stargem419
>crankcase). Turnbull hero-worships Fraser.
Compared to the actors character in EFC, Turnbull is missing the ENTIRE 12 pack
(in other words, he's 12 cans short of a party pack.), but he's still lovable
in a rather goofy way.
>That's an old expression, when the word queer meant strange or odd (before
>most
>folks' time, like when 'gay' meant happy).
>
I used to use the word queer before I found out that it was used in a bad
manner towards gay and bi people. Then I stopped using it. Bummer what life
does to some things.
P.S. I don't mean hold any malice towards any Turnbull fans in this ng, so
please hold off on the dead otters. Thank you kindly.