David Marciano Question????
DEBRA BEDORE
Jadehaus wrote:
>
> I'm new to this newsgroup but a Due South fan since it originally aired on CBS
> a couple of years ago or when ever it was. So if someone addressed that,
> sorry I didn't see it because I'm new here. Here is what I'm adressing. Why
> did David Marciano not come back to Due South? Was there a dispute over money
> or does he have another series he has been cast in or is his feature film
> career taking off so he is busy making films?
>
> I really don't care much at all for this new Ray. Is this guy supposed to be
> the character that David Marciano played or is this another character that so
> happens to have the name of Ray? If this guy is supposed to be the same
> character as David Marciano's then the producers made a grave mistake. There
> is no way that this new actor can fullfill the fine characterization that
> David Marciano had done with this character of Ray. I know that script
> writers create the characters but sometimes the actors personalities and
> talents come through to really make the characters who they are, and David
> Marciano did make Ray what Ray was and this actor who is playing Ray not can
> not do it. The producers and writers should have just created a new character
> instead of trying to give us this new actor in the name of Ray. On NYPD Blue
> when David Caruso left, the producers didn't give us Jimmy Smits in the same
> character of Caruso's, they wrote a new character into play. Why didn't Due
> South producers and writers do this? If this Ray character is really a new
> character with the same name as the other Ray character, what the heck are
> they thinking?
>
> Today is the first of the new episodes that I have seen and the script writing
> is the same and up to par, Paul Gross' acting is still the same and he
> portrays Frasier quite well, but this Ray thing really screws up the whole
> aura and feeling of this show. It's really too bad. Wish I had seen the
> first one or two, how ever many there were before this in the new series of
> this show so I could have seen more about this new Ray, if he is the same
> character of the old one played by David Marciano or if this is supposed to be
> a different character with the name of Ray.
>
> This new actor does not have the same chemistry with Paul Gross as David
> Marciano had with Paul Gross. Something about David Marciano is really
> magical. I saw him on Touched By An Angel and I have to tell yeah, he
> captured the whole episode. I mean David Marciano does something for an
> episode or series that can not be duplicated with any other actor. He played
> Ray well, Ray was him and he was Ray on Due South and on the episode of
> Touched By An Angel, his character was him and he was the character.
>
> Reply and tell me what the heck happened to David Marciano.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
I think you well worded observations are an answer to your question.
David Marciano is a talented and likable actor who seems to have
a plotential carreer beyond DS.
SFulton229
David Marciano signed a development contract with CBS after "Due South" was
cancelled and before the series was revived (the contract has expired now).
He wasn't available without paying a penalty to get out of the contract early.
He has indicated that he would be interested in continuing as Ray Vecchio. I
have been writing to Alliance asking that Mr. Marciano come back as a
recurring character or frequent guest star. If anyone is interested the
address is:
Alliance Communication Corp.
121 Bloor Street East Suite 1400
Toronto, Ontario
Canada M4W 3M5
or
"Due South"
940 Lansdowne Avenue
Toronto, Ontario
Canada M6H 4G9
Letters might help and certainly couldn't hurt. Susan SFult...@aol.com
Ray Vecchio-Accept No Substitute!
Richard Gardineer
Jadehaus wrote:
> I'm new to this newsgroup but a Due South fan since it originally aired on CBS
> a couple of years ago or when ever it was. So if someone addressed that,
> sorry I didn't see it because I'm new here. Here is what I'm adressing. Why
> did David Marciano not come back to Due South? Was there a dispute over money
> or does he have another series he has been cast in or is his feature film
> career taking off so he is busy making films?
Marciano does guest work on US TV. He is too busy doing that to fly to Toronto and
shack up there for months on end. However, schedule and scripts permitting,
maricano may reprise his role periodically, and has done so for the season
premiere.
>
>
> I really don't care much at all for this new Ray. Is this guy supposed to be
> the character that David Marciano played or is this another character that so
> happens to have the name of Ray?
Callum Keith Rennie's character's full name is Stanley Raymond Kopalski, and is a
thirtysomething detective in the Chicago PD.
> If this guy is supposed to be the same character as David Marciano's then the
> producers made a grave mistake. There is no way that this new actor can
> fullfill the fine characterization that David Marciano had done with this
> character of Ray. I know that script writers create the characters but
> sometimes the actors personalities and talents come through to really make the
> characters who they are, and David Marciano did make Ray what Ray was and this
> actor who is playing Ray not can not do it. The producers and writers should
> have just created a new character instead of trying to give us this new actor in
> the name of Ray. On NYPD Blue when David Caruso left, the producers didn't give
> us Jimmy Smits in the same character of Caruso's, they wrote a new character
> into play. Why didn't Due South producers and writers do this? If this Ray
> character is really a new character with the same name as the other Ray
> character, what the heck are they thinking?
Back story: Ray went undercover to infiltrate a Chicago crime family, and his Riv
(# 3) caught fire and took a swim in Lake Ontario...err, Michigan. To keep the
District seemingly stable - in case of moles - Kopalski has been reassigned to take
Veccio's place in the District AND at the Veccio homestead. As such, the District
and Consulate personnel, to maximise the charade, are to refer to Stanley as "Ray"
until Ray gets back - provided that Ray comes back in one piece, that is.
Stanley's pseudo-Ray has led to some sarcasm on Francesca's part. Fraser refers to
Stanley as "Ray", in part because of the literalness with which Fraser follows
orders, and partially out of habit.
>
>
> Today is the first of the new episodes that I have seen and the script writing
> is the same and up to par, Paul Gross' acting is still the same and he
> portrays Frasier quite well, but this Ray thing really screws up the whole
> aura and feeling of this show. It's really too bad. Wish I had seen the
> first one or two, how ever many there were before this in the new series of
> this show so I could have seen more about this new Ray, if he is the same
> character of the old one played by David Marciano or if this is supposed to be
> a different character with the name of Ray.
>
> This new actor does not have the same chemistry with Paul Gross as David
> Marciano had with Paul Gross. Something about David Marciano is really
> magical. I saw him on Touched By An Angel and I have to tell yeah, he
> captured the whole episode. I mean David Marciano does something for an
> episode or series that can not be duplicated with any other actor. He played
> Ray well, Ray was him and he was Ray on Due South and on the episode of
> Touched By An Angel, his character was him and he was the character.
>
> Reply and tell me what the heck happened to David Marciano.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
See above.
- Arthur A. "God Damn the Queen" Gardineer
JRD 203
In article <19971007022...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
frase...@aol.com (FRASERFAN1) writes:
>It seems to me that pay was also a factor...something like $14K less per
>episode. Anyone else remember this??
>
>
Yep. It was an estimated $14K US paycut. Of course, the show is syndicated
but if you or I took a paycut of equal amount, we'd have to work back up to
our present salary too. A tough decision.
Elyse
JRD 2...@aol.com
FRASERFAN1
sfult...@aol.com (SFulton229) writes:
>David Marciano signed a development contract with CBS after "Due South" was
> cancelled and before the series was revived (the contract has expired now).
> He wasn't available without paying a penalty to get out of the contract
>early.
> He has indicated that he would be interested in continuing as Ray Vecchio.
It seems to me that pay was also a factor...something like $14K less per
episode. Anyone else remember this??
Julie
Dana
> > He has indicated that he would be interested in continuing as Ray
Vecchio.
>
> It seems to me that pay was also a factor...something like $14K less per
> episode. Anyone else remember this??
Yep but now that you mention it, I don't remember where I heard it. I
think probably from this newsgroup or the DS-List.
I've been coming across a lot of articles lately that indicated he and PG
were not the best of buddies off camera, either.
Jadehaus
>
>It seems to me that pay was also a factor...something like $14K less per
>episode. Anyone else remember this??
That is quite a pay cut. Then how much would he make after the pay cut? I have
no idea how much he made while on the series when it was in primetime. I used
to to Movie/TV extra work and worked for $40.00 a day, 8 hours or less, and
would have loved to take a $14,000.00 pay cut because that would mean I was
making a heck of a lot more than $40.00, and after -$14,000.00 it would have
been still a lot I bet. LOL. Anyone wanna hire me, an ex Extra who can act?
LOL. J/K. Due South production company, here I am the next side kick on Due
South or at least a guest star. :).
Thanks,
James
Dwight Williams
"Dana" (da...@mindspring.com) writes:
>> > He has indicated that he would be interested in continuing as Ray
> Vecchio.
>>
>> It seems to me that pay was also a factor...something like $14K less per
>> episode. Anyone else remember this??
>
> Yep but now that you mention it, I don't remember where I heard it. I
> think probably from this newsgroup or the DS-List.
>
> I've been coming across a lot of articles lately that indicated he and PG
> were not the best of buddies off camera, either.
You referring to this week's _McLeans_(with Gross as the cover feature) as
being one of them? I noted the reference to Mr. Marciano referring to PG
as "Mr. Gross", myself. I hope that isn't a sign of something...and I
really would not care to comment further on _that_ topic. Makes me a more
than a little uncomfortable...
--
Dwight Williams(ad...@freenet.carleton.ca) -- Orleans, Ontario, Canada
Dwight Williams
Jadehaus (jade...@aol.com) writes:
>>
>>It seems to me that pay was also a factor...something like $14K less per
>>episode. Anyone else remember this??
>
> That is quite a pay cut. Then how much would he make after the pay cut? I have
> no idea how much he made while on the series when it was in primetime. I used
> to to Movie/TV extra work and worked for $40.00 a day, 8 hours or less, and
> would have loved to take a $14,000.00 pay cut because that would mean I was
> making a heck of a lot more than $40.00, and after -$14,000.00 it would have
> been still a lot I bet. LOL. Anyone wanna hire me, an ex Extra who can act?
> LOL. J/K. Due South production company, here I am the next side kick on Due
> South or at least a guest star. :).
The _Macleans_ article pegged the pay cut at 40% of his earlier salary.
And you do have to remember that he was spending 8 months or so out of the
year away from home and wife and across the border to play Vecchio. That
can put more than a few strains on a person.
That he is apparently still willing to try to come to terms speaks well of
the couple. Hopefully, something can be worked out to bring Mr. Marciano
back aboard on whatever basis is workable for both Alliance and himself.
Loren King
Jadehaus wrote:
>> This new actor does not have the same chemistry with Paul Gross as David
>> Marciano had with Paul Gross. Something about David Marciano is really
>> magical. I saw him on Touched By An Angel and I have to tell yeah, he
>> captured the whole episode. I mean David Marciano does something for an
>> episode or series that can not be duplicated with any other actor.
Give it time. The writing is solid, and Keith Callum Rennie is a very
talented actor. If you want to get a feel for his skill and range,
check out his wildly divergent roles in Bruce Macdonald's "Hard Core
Logo", and "Double Happiness" (whose writer-director-star I can't
recall off-hand, but Rennie plays the boyfriend, if I remember right).
eli...@ix.netcom.com
Speaking of convention...
Are there any held in California? And if so how can I receive information
on it?
Alicia
eli...@ix.netcom.com
JRD 203
If you attended RCW 97 and want to offer any input on the convention,
you have until November 15th to fill out the survey, which is located at
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~warydbom/rcw1997/survey.htm
Or, e-mail me directly if you'd like a text copy.
Thanks!
Elyse
JRD 2...@aol.com
RCW 97 Web Site Coordinator
Sarah L. C. Cannell
Loren King (lk...@chass.utoronto.ca) writes:
> Give it time. The writing is solid, and Keith Callum Rennie is a very
> talented actor. If you want to get a feel for his skill and range,
> check out his wildly divergent roles in Bruce Macdonald's "Hard Core
> Logo", and "Double Happiness" (whose writer-director-star I can't
> recall off-hand, but Rennie plays the boyfriend, if I remember right).
The writer and the star of "Double Happiness" are not the same woman.
The star is Sandra Oh, who will be appearing with CKR in an upcoming Don
McKellar movie called "Last Night." (Actually it's not clear to me whether
their characters will cross paths much in this movie, but they are both in
it.) The writer-director of DH was Mina Shum, who does appear in the movie
as a casting director or similar animal. CKR is indeed the boyfriend, and
he's very appealing at it.
sarah
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JRD 203
>Speaking of convention...
>Are there any held in California? And if so how can I receive information
>on it?
To my knowledge the only two Due South conventions held were the
original RCW 139 and the 'sequel', RCW 139: Due It Again. Both were held
in Toronto because all the locations for fans to scout are there (since the
show is filmed there) and virtually all the cast and crew (and studio) are
in Toronto.
There will be a convention held in June (I believe) in England. It's a fan-run
con, just like the RCW's.
We've got info and such on our site:
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~warydbom/duesouth.htm
Elyse
JRD 2...@aol.com
Casey Lane
I too like the new Ray. I caught a few episodes of the old Due
South and Ray #1 didn't move me at all (my opinion only from all
I've read)! I like the energy of the new Ray and his obvious
insecurities that the Mountie can lend his personal inner strength
to. Lots of potential IMHO
CaptParrsh
The new Ray is too much like real life sleaze balls. Eeck!
DrgnMage25
CaptParrsh writes:
>The new Ray is too much like real life sleaze balls. Eeck!
I absolutely agree with you. This new Ray has no redeeming qualities that I
can see. No sense of humor at all.