Looking Back at Cartoon Network...Jeez, you can clearly tell how far the network has fallen.

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The thing about CN was that, when it first began, it was merely an
outlet on cable to air old Warner Brothers/Hanna-Barbara cartoons
until the mid 1990s, when they decided to experiment with ORIGINAL
PROGRAMMING. Very radical at the time because the cable network seemed
to just be like a music video channel.

They experimented with a few original programs (Dexter's Labratory
being the forefront) and also had Cartoon Cartoons, which saw pilot
ideas and independent ideas from up-and-coming cartoonists.

The network didn't get in motion until the late 1990s and early 2000s
by bringing forth a multitude of original programs like "Powerpuff
Girls", "Courage the Cowardly Dog" and "Samurai Jack", not to mention
having ties with DC Comics that still stands to this day. If you were
an anime fan, you watched CN for Toonami, and eventually when [adult
swim] became the network's late-night lineup, you had the ability to
lure in people for various things (contemporary programming, adult
cartoons, and more "mature" anime like InuYasha, Cowboy Bebop, or
FLCL).

Then... the wheels came off in the late 2000s.

While they were still going strong with original programming, in
addition to the original Clone Wars cartoon, they began making a few
serious hiccups. I had taken a sabattical from watching the network
during this time and, when I returned around 2006... oy.

Some of the new programs they trotted out were hideous. "Squirrel
Boy"? I never liked Everett Peck's works. "Class of 3000"? No thanks.
They even started the trend to what is today CNReal with "Out of
Jimmy's Head", which was a really bad movie that spawned a short-lived
live-action program.

[adult swim] didn't fare a whole lot better. They prided themselves
more on being one of the main influences as to why "Family Guy" and
"Futurama" were revived. Original shows like "Aqua Teen Hunger Force"
were gold in their own right, but for every show like that, you ended
up with "Squidbillies", "Tom Goes The Mayor", and "Assy McGee".

Today, the network is a farce. Sure, you got "Regular Show" and
"Adventure Time", but I'm not into irreverent humor as much as I used
to. Also, the fact that a bad Internet meme got its own show and still
push it while they cancel quality programming illustrates how out of
touch they are.

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14 hours ago JDogindy said:

15 hours ago Numero99 said:
"I don't like Regular Show and Adventure Time so the network sucks
now."

Sorry man, I can appreciate not liking a show, but to Adventure Time
and Regular Show are mega-f'n-hits. They sell so much merchandise, the
fanbase is huge and Firefly-like in their dedication and the comic
adaptations are hits as well.

To say they're "out of touch" for having these shows on the air
doesn't make a lot of sense.
I didn't say they sucked; I've seen a few episodes of each and was
entertained, but I'm not a fan of them. But, then again, my complaints
have been more or less things that have gone on for at least seven
years as a whole. In addition, I feel like that CN has a grand
opportunity to back these two goliaths up with a supporting cast of
programming... 'except they don't.

But, this is all my opinion.


Well - their biggest mistake at this point is not giving Pen Ward (and
Quintel) more shows. He started his own thing with Cartoon Hangover,
which looks to be getting some top-notch indie talents in the fold.
But for a while Cartoon Network was pretty much the Genndy Tartakovsky
Network. Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack, and a couple of
other shows that he produced.

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14 hours ago Numero99 said:

14 hours ago JDogindy said:
I didn't say they sucked; I've seen a few episodes of each and was
entertained, but I'm not a fan of them. But, then again, my complaints
have been more or less things that have gone on for at least seven
years as a whole. In addition, I feel like that CN has a grand
opportunity to back these two goliaths up with a supporting cast of
programming... 'except they don't.

But, this is all my opinion.
Well - their biggest mistake at this point is not giving Pen Ward (and
Quintel) more shows. He started his own thing with Cartoon Hangover,
which looks to be getting some top-notch indie talents in the fold.
But for a while Cartoon Network was pretty much the Genndy Tartakovsky
Network. Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack, and a couple of
other shows that he produced.


Since they're doing very good with those programs, you would think
that they'd give a bit more creative license with each developer and
see what else they got in store.

Even if it appears to simply be coming from the mind of one or two
guys, it's better to see what else they have.

Again, the center of my gripe isn't me liking one or two shows, but
CN's inability to back up those shows and having you care more about
watching the network as a whole, which is something they have been
doing for many years now; find a successful show, see it run wild, and
don't use it as a springboard for other shows that could do the same
thing.

And, I like J.G. Quintel.

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13 hours ago JDogindy said:

14 hours ago NoRegret said:
Bringing in Mike Judge to add to Adult Swim and then as suggested give
Pen and Quintel some more shows along with Craig McCracken if
possible, and then if possible I'd try and bring Genndy back in and
see if he could create something new and fresh with that nostalgic
feeling.

Network saved.
Didn't Craig leave Cartoon Network because he was complaining about
the direction they were going? It'd be a huge coup to bring him back
to the fold.


I had heard that was the reason he left and bringing him back with a
blast would be a huge coup especially if they made a big "hooha" about
the new direction along with it. I think while CN still has a lot of
quality shows, they've lost their pizzazz and bringing back Craig and
Genndy along with Mike Judge and making a big deal of it along with
getting more Pen and Quintel shows out there in a big way would do a
great deal to add to the excitement of the Network.

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At least they haven't fallen as the Spongebob Network, er, I mean
Nickelodeon.

Yeah, they still have good programs but they hardly air them. Mostly
Spongebob with FoP sprinkled in between.

Seriously, why no Avatar reruns?

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6 hours ago QuotePost by Terroriffic on 6 hours ago

7 hours ago Lizuka said:
I still question how anyone can like Aqua Teen, and personally I love
Regular Show and Adventure Time, but on a general level, yeah, I
agree. I personally thought Green Lantern was crap and Young Justice
was boring, but they certainly have more merit than Annoying Orange.



Aqua Teen's (and by extension of it's creator, Squidbillies) humor
derives from it's surrealist, absurd elements and relationships
between the characters. It's easy to say you have to be stoned to get
it, but I've never smoked and I get it.

I disagree somewhat with the op because I think you're cherry picking
shows to prove your point. As others have said pretty much throughout
the life of the network some good shows were on (Billy & Mandy, Ed,
Edd, & Eddy, Flapjack, Chowder, etc). The network today is stronger
because of shows like Adventure Time and Regular Show, but stuff like
Looney Tunes Show and Mad also provide something watchable between the
crud. On the adult swim side you have Superjail, The Venture Brothers,
and Metalocalypse.

I think where we can both agree is how dire some of their live action
shows are on both the AS and CN sides.

Incredible crew? Lame, but I guess I can see the younger audience
liking it.

Level Up? Lame.

Loiter Squad? Pass.

The Eric Andre Show? Hey I actually like that one.

Children's Hospital? Funny, but I'm afraid as soon as I start watching
I'll want to go into a dark room and think about Lake Bell and Malin
Ackerman.

Mighty Boosh? Love it.

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They're just now starting to right the ship, but things got pretty
dire there for awhile. I can definitely say that late '90s early 2000s
was their Attitude Era in terms of the amount of quality shows they
had going, and that it would be unfair to constantly compare them to
that.