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mnke...@comcast.net

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May 14, 2012, 8:08:25 PM5/14/12
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Here is a really decent review of DS from a critic i usually despise.
LOL
But he's right on with this one.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2012%2F05%2F10%2FDDHI1OF6BC.DTL

Diva Magenta

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May 14, 2012, 8:51:17 PM5/14/12
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Yes, I loved this review, too! I ran out on Friday and picked up the SF
Chronicle, another Northern California newspaper, and USA Today, for the
reviews. All three were quite positive. USA Today also had a nice
companion artlcie about the longtime Depp/Burton collaboration and
friendship.

I also read several online reviews. Many were positive, others weren't,
but I noticed that most of the negative ones pointed to aspects that
they didn't like, but I did. Plus, there were some reviews that said
the comedy overshadowed the horror/drama, while others said the exact
opposite, that it should have gone totally comedic. I think the
combination is in perfect balance, and each part complements the other,
rather than distracting.

Got the poster from the theatre manager, too <g>

Diva

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Marcovaldo

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May 15, 2012, 1:03:51 PM5/15/12
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Yep, he's right with this one, although I was okay with the Dr. Hoffman resolution.

mnke...@comcast.net

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May 15, 2012, 2:30:08 PM5/15/12
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Ah, i'd love a poster!
A bus stop only a block away from me has a HUGE poster of Dr. Hoffman.
The character poster with the hot pink background. WANT!!!

mnke...@comcast.net

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May 15, 2012, 2:32:47 PM5/15/12
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On May 15, 10:03 am, Marcovaldo <tanaka...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, May 14, 2012 5:08:25 PM UTC-7, mnke...@comcast.net wrote:
> > Here is a really decent review of DS from a critic i usually despise.
> > LOL
> > But he's right on with this one.
>
> >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2012%2F05%2F10...
>
> Yep, he's right with this one, although I was okay with the Dr. Hoffman resolution.

I think there is plenty of room for a really good sequel there.
And much of it would be just as with the show. Roger could come back
with "Cassandra" in tow.. and well, you know about Dr. Hoffman so i
won't spoil anything for folks who have not seen it. Not to mention
Laura Collins.
Plenty to work with, as you well know.
Cheers!

ZZH...@yahoo.com

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May 15, 2012, 4:30:27 PM5/15/12
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If there is a sequel there are thousands of routes they could take.


This is how close it is to break even:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=darkshadows.htm

Look for the movie to come out on DVD in August or September
if they folllo the standard schedule.

Bear in mind some studios release movies knowting they'll
loose money at the box office only to make a ton of money
in the DVD marketplace. Espeically where in this part of the US of A
movie tickets are in the $12.00 neighborhood while the DVD can
be purchased for $7 or $8.

So if you've got four or five kids it's a lot cheaper to
buy he DVD and watch it at home on your 72" home
theater system then drag those kids to the movie,
get them popcorn, etc.

Diva Magenta

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May 15, 2012, 4:33:47 PM5/15/12
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Our local small town paper doesn't carry regular movie reviews, but it
does have a weekly "Family Filmgoer" column, which focuses on the
family-friendliness of new movies, detailing any possibly problematic
content, along with which age groups it might be considered appropriate
for.

I had to laugh when they mentioned the, ummm, "doctor patient
confidentiality" scene, along with the violent content and the mild
language, but not a word about the big Barn/Angie office-smashing love
scene!

mnke...@comcast.net

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May 15, 2012, 4:57:21 PM5/15/12
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On May 15, 1:30 pm, ZZH...@yahoo.com wrote:
I usually wait for dvd or Blu Ray for that exact reason.
But being as we've waited for ages for a DS movie.. going on opening
day seemed like a must.
I might also go see "Prometheus" when it comes out being i've been to
the theatre for all of the "Alien" movies- with the exception of the
AVP shlock.

Diva Magenta

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May 15, 2012, 9:07:01 PM5/15/12
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>Look for the movie to come out on DVD
> in August or September if they folllo the
> standard schedule.

Or maybe October? Believe me, I'm all about sooner rather than later,
but it would be a perfect Halloween-time release, plus they could use
the line from the movie, where Barnabas asks Willie what month it is,
and he says "October" in the commercials. Kind of like in the recent
spots where they used the clip of Barnabas asking "What year?" and the
announcer says, "this year." and then he says "What month?" and the
announcer says "this month." :)

I'm excited about another October release, too. They're apparently
coming out with the DVD/Blu-ray of Little Shop Of Horrors in October,
and it's supposed to finally include the original ending as an extra!

Wiseguy

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May 15, 2012, 11:54:55 PM5/15/12
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ZZH...@yahoo.com

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May 16, 2012, 12:40:42 AM5/16/12
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So is Prometheus an Alien movie? With the coming attractions it
doesn't look like it is.

ZZH...@yahoo.com

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May 16, 2012, 12:45:09 AM5/16/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 18:07:01 -0700, DivaM...@webtv.net (Diva
Magenta) wrote:

>>Look for the movie to come out on DVD
>> in August or September if they folllo the
>> standard schedule.
>
>Or maybe October?
I'd bet on September. The drop off of sales at the theater
is steep and fast, and the crush of new movies will
push older movies like Dark Shadows out. Which will
lead to a dvd release in September. Come September the
The Avengers will still be around.
>
>I'm excited about another October release, too. They're apparently
>coming out with the DVD/Blu-ray of Little Shop Of Horrors in October,
>and it's supposed to finally include the original ending as an extra!
>
>
>Diva
That hasn't been out prevously?

Kishin

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May 16, 2012, 6:08:14 AM5/16/12
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Yes, it's already been released, but perhaps you missed the end Diva's
final sentence: "and it's supposed to finally include the original
ending as an extra!"

Not having previous releases, I would assume this feature wasn't
included, and thus explains her excitement.

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Kishin

Mike S.

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May 16, 2012, 10:40:35 AM5/16/12
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On Wed, 16 May 2012 00:40:42 -0400, ZZH...@yahoo.com wrote:

>So is Prometheus an Alien movie? With the coming attractions it
>doesn't look like it is.

I believe it is. Check out this article and the two trailers. -->

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/12/22/prometheus-trailer/

Diva Magenta

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May 16, 2012, 11:10:09 AM5/16/12
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>DVD/Blu-ray of Little Shop Of Horrors in
> October, and it's supposed to finally
> include the original ending as an extra!


>That hasn't been out prevously?


>Yes, it's already been released, but
> perhaps you missed the end Diva's final
> sentence: "and it's supposed to finally
> include the original ending as an extra!"
>Not having previous releases, I would
> assume this feature wasn't included,
> and thus explains her excitement.

It was released before with the original ending included as an extra,
but not for forg. The original DVD release did include it, but
due to legal issues over the right to use that footage, copies were
almost immediately yanked from store shelves, and they released another
version of the DVD without that footage.

Those now rare and highly sought after original discs were being sold on
eBay and elsewhere for well over $100 by those lucky few who were able
to snatch a copy before they were gone. But now, apparently it looks as
if they've worked out the issues surrounding that footage and it will
now be available.

For those who don't know, the movie with the original ending was
screened for test audiences, and their reaction to the much more tragic,
darker ending (true to the original stage production) was highly
negative, so they re-shot a happier, more upbeat ending.

I personally think the happy ending fits. As someone once said, in a
stage production, the characters can die, but then the actors come out
for a bow, alive and well, but in a movie they don't, and cinema gives
you the closeups and expressions that make the characters seem more
personal and real, and it makes a sad ending much more so.

I had the opportunity to see the original ending, and it is quite
interesting and elaborately staged, and yes, deeply tragic and
heartwrenching. It was very cool to see the direction they took in the
first place.

ZZH...@yahoo.com

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May 16, 2012, 2:08:55 PM5/16/12
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On Wed, 16 May 2012 08:10:09 -0700, DivaM...@webtv.net (Diva
Magenta) wrote:

>For those who don't know, the movie with the original ending was
>screened for test audiences, and their reaction to the much more tragic,
>darker ending (true to the original stage production) was highly
>negative, so they re-shot a happier, more upbeat ending.
Personally i've never seen the movie version, I saw the original stage
version many years ago.

mnke...@comcast.net

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May 16, 2012, 3:38:04 PM5/16/12
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On May 15, 9:40 pm, ZZH...@yahoo.com wrote:
> doesn't look like it is.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, "Prometheus" is a prequel. There are plenty of images in the
trailer to give you that notion. A shot of the "Space Jockey". the U
shaped ship.. the little Sci Fi "Squee" noise used in the very first
traiers for "Alien". Yep... oh and Ridley Scot directing to top it
off. Looks awesome!

mnke...@comcast.net

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May 16, 2012, 6:54:02 PM5/16/12
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> off. Looks awesome!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

'Scuse me- Ridley Scott. Great Director... Typo monkey!
Also- i forgot to menton that Guy Pearce is playing a character,
Weyland. Weyland is the corporation that owned the Nostromo and tries
to charge Ripley with it's destruction in part 2.

Kishin

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May 17, 2012, 5:44:00 AM5/17/12
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Ridley Scott has repeatedly denied that it's a prequel, but most of us
are calling bullshit. As noted, it features Weyland, the original alien
space ship and the space jockey, and it takes place before "Alien."
Ergo: it's a prequel.

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Kishin

ZZH...@yahoo.com

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May 17, 2012, 12:56:59 PM5/17/12
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Except without Sigourney Weaver it can't be Alien or Aliens.


ZZH...@yahoo.com

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May 17, 2012, 12:58:57 PM5/17/12
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Excpet it doesn't have Sigourney Weaver so it can't be a "prequel."

mnke...@comcast.net

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May 17, 2012, 4:43:23 PM5/17/12
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On May 17, 9:58 am, ZZH...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Excpet it doesn't have Sigourney Weaver so it can't be a "prequel."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Good point, but it still looks pretty damned good! ~:oD

Kishin

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May 17, 2012, 6:43:49 PM5/17/12
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How does Ms. Weaver's absence prevent "Prometheus" from being a prequel?
It takes place in the same universe, at a time before that in which
"Alien" takes place, and features at least 1 character in common with
"Alien." That sounds like a prequel to me. That would be like saying the
"Star Wars" prequels weren't prequels because they didn't feature the
original stars.

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Kishin

mnke...@comcast.net

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May 17, 2012, 6:59:47 PM5/17/12
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On May 17, 3:43 pm, Kishin <n...@yobizz.ness> wrote:
> ZZH...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 May 2012 05:44:00 -0400, Kishin<n...@yobizz.ness>  wrote:
> Kishin- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

For the record, Sigourney Weaver says she'd love to do another "Alien"
sequel if the script were good.. but she says no one wants to see a
Sci Fi movie with a 60 year old woman in the lead. Uuuh- Ms. Weaver! I
beg to differ!!! LOL

Wiseguy

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May 17, 2012, 8:52:37 PM5/17/12
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ZZH...@yahoo.com wrote in
news:7cbar7dme2171882b...@4ax.com:
No, Alien and Aliens have already been done. This is Prometheus.
Sequels and prequels are determined by plot, not director or stars.

Diva Magenta

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May 17, 2012, 9:40:01 PM5/17/12
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>No, Alien and Aliens have already been
> done. This is Prometheus. Sequels and
> prequels are determined by plot, not
> director or stars.

Richard O'Brien always insisted that his follow-up to Rocky Horror,
Shock Treatment, was "not a prequel, not a sequel, but an equal."

But it takes place in the same location (Denton) after the events of
Rocky Horror, and features Brad, Janet and other characters from the
original film (plus several Rocky Horror actors playing new roles). And
it's a musical, too.

With all due respect to Mr. O'Brien, that certainly makes it a sequel.

ZZH...@yahoo.com

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May 18, 2012, 2:29:59 PM5/18/12
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It doesn't have her character. It would be like doing a superman
movie without Superman.

>It takes place in the same universe, at a time before that in which
>"Alien" takes place, and features at least 1 character in common with
>"Alien." That sounds like a prequel to me. That would be like saying the
>"Star Wars" prequels weren't prequels because they didn't feature the
>original stars.
SW had the original characters in an earlier time.

Kishin

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May 18, 2012, 5:48:38 PM5/18/12
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You can call it whatever you'd like. But the rest of fandom is calling
it a prequel.

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Kishin
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