DS Inspired Show?
ray salisbury
relation to the 1984 hit movie of the same name. Anyway, it starred
Larry Storch and Forrest Tucker and someone in a gorrilla suit. The
characters were Spencer (Storch), Tracey (the gorilla) and Kong
(Tucker). I wonder if Spencer Tracy the actor playing popula DS star
Joan Bennett's wife in two films could have inspired the
Ghostbusters's creators to name two of the characters on the show
after him.
Unknown
wrote:
I seriously doubt it. Neither of the two movies in question dealt
with ghosts nor the supernatural in any way.
JB also made at least one film appearance with Tracy's longtime
partner, Kathleen Hepburn, as well with many other big names including
the *real* Bogie (not Tony Peterson).
If the creator of Ghostbuster did have Spencer Tracy in mind, for some
reason, it likely had nothing to do with DS. Maybe some obscure
reason, like not signing an autograph for him when he was a kid.
ray salisbury
Correction! I meant to put down "Joan Bennett's husband" where I
accidentally put down the words "Joan Bennett's wife"! And I forgot
the "R" in popular! I do correct my own mistakes when I catch them.
BTW For years after watching the tv Ghostbusters I heard for years
about Spencer Tracy and always thought of the Storch-Tucker comedy. It
was not until 5 years ago I at last figured who Spencer Tracy actually
was.
And to hear the theme song to the 70's Ghostbusters (and compare it
to the Ghostbusters of the 80's theme) go to Sitcomsonline.com. You
can press a certain button there and hear the tv shows's theme songs.
Note: the tv Ghostbusters is actually sung by Larry Storch and Forrest
Tucker!
Tony Lew
No, the reason they used the names "Spencer" and "Tracey" is that if
you morph Larry Storch with a Gorilla you get something that looks
like Spencer Tracy.
Jonafan
Those two guys were a stitch together, especially in F-Troop!
And I would have loved to have seen Arsenic and Old Lace with JONATHAN FRID
and his sidekick, Larry Storch.
"ray salisbury" <pome...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Dumorte
>wrote:
>
>>In the 1970's on Saturday morning tv there was Ghostbusters. It was no
>>relation to the 1984 hit movie of the same name.
Ah, I remember it fondly...
Anyway, it starred
>>Larry Storch and Forrest Tucker and someone in a gorrilla suit. The
>>characters were Spencer (Storch), Tracey (the gorilla) and Kong
>>(Tucker). I wonder if Spencer Tracy the actor playing popula DS star
>>Joan Bennett's wife in two films could have inspired the
>>Ghostbusters's creators to name two of the characters on the show
>>after him.
>
>I seriously doubt it. Neither of the two movies in question dealt
>with ghosts nor the supernatural in any way.
>
>JB also made at least one film appearance with Tracy's longtime
>partner, Kathleen Hepburn, as well with many other big names including
>the *real* Bogie (not Tony Peterson).
>
>If the creator of Ghostbuster did have Spencer Tracy in mind, for some
>reason, it likely had nothing to do with DS. Maybe some obscure
>reason, like not signing an autograph for him when he was a kid.
>
I think it was more like he had two first names and the three names have a
funny sound to them...as well as the gag that Kong is NOT the gorillia.
Sidney
"There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face."
- Ben Williams
""People that hate cats will come back as mice in their next life." - Faith
Resnick
David Windhorst
"We're the Ghost Busters!
We're clever, courageous, and strong!
We're the Ghost Busters--
'I'm Spencer,
I'm Tracy,
He's Kong...'"
ray salisbury wrote:
> snip
Tony Lew
>
> I think it was more like he had two first names and the three names have a
> funny sound to them...as well as the gag that Kong is NOT the gorillia.
This reminds me of an episode of "Get Smart" where Maxwell Smarts opens
a detective agency and runs into a Sidney Greenstreet/Peter Lorre pair,
the joke being that that Greenstreet look-alike was named Mr. Peter and
the Lorre lookalike was named Mr. Sidney.
Unknown
wrote:
>That Storch/Tucker Ghostbusters was so cute! I'd forgotten all about it.
>
>Those two guys were a stitch together, especially in F-Troop!
Yes they were. Brings back memories of about 35 years ago for me.
>And I would have loved to have seen Arsenic and Old Lace with JONATHAN FRID
>and his sidekick, Larry Storch.
Frid was paired with Larry Storch?? Now that's an Odd Couple, maybe
even stranger than Count Petofi and Aristede.
Graeme
detective agency and runs into a Sidney Greenstreet/Peter Lorre pair, the joke
being that that Greenstreet look-alike was named Mr. Peter and the Lorre
lookalike was named Mr. Sidney.
>>
Oh yes, "Maxwell Smart, Private Eye". He opened the detective agency because
of one of the periodic cutbacks at Control. Max keeps calling the fat one Mr.
Sydney, and the weaselly one Mr. Peter, but they tell him not to apologize
because people are making that mistake all the time.
And Don Adams did a pretty good Bogie impersonation all through that one.
Maybe he should have got the role of Tony Peterson. And come to think of it,
wasn't that Buddy Hackett who played "The Old Wilbur in the Drapes" trick at
the end? (And I saw this episode before I ever saw Casablanca, so I didn't
realize at first that Hackett's character was also based on one from the
movie).
FredHerrring
>From: graem...@aol.compost (Graeme)
>Date: 3/19/02 11:48 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <20020319234853...@mb-co.aol.com>
>
>And come to think of it,
>wasn't that Buddy Hackett who played "The Old Wilbur in the Drapes" trick at
>the end? (And I saw this episode before I ever saw Casablanca, so I didn't
>realize at first that Hackett's character was also based on one from the
>movie).
Yes, that was Buddy Hackett. I had the pleasure of meeting Buddy Hackett last
year and mentioned having recently seen him in that episode of Get Smart.
Not only did he smile at the memory of that cameo appearance, he even
remembered and recited some of his dialogue from the episode for me.
Graeme
last year and mentioned having recently seen him in that episode of Get Smart.
>>
Get Smart had some decent celebrity cameos. Milton Berle as a hotel clerk, Bob
Hope (forget what he did), Johnny Carson as a train conductor, and Robert Culp
as a waiter (in the I Spy parody episode, naturally). Probably a lot more I've
forgotten.
Great show. Data couldn't hold a candle to Hymie the Robot.
>>Not only did he smile at the memory of that cameo appearance, he even
remembered and recited some of his dialogue from the episode for me.
>>
All I remember of it is that he had enormous Coke bottle lenses, jumped out of
the drapes and said "Stick 'em up." Then he squinted for a bit and said "Are
they up?"
FredHerrring
>Bob
>Hope (forget what he did), Johnny Carson as a train conductor, and Robert
>Culp
>as a waiter (in the I Spy parody episode, naturally). Probably a lot more
>I've
>forgotten.
I don't remember them all either, but I do remember that Bob Hope also played a
waiter. That was in the "99 Loses Control" episode, in which 99 quits her spy
job to marry Victor Royale, the suave foreign casino owner who turns out to be
a KAOS Agent.
As Max is lurking outside the door of Royale's room, jealously wondering what
99 and her fiancee are doing inside, room service waiter Bob Hope makes a
delivery to the room. He also delivers a bunch of one-liners to Max about what
a playboy Royale is.
>Great show. Data couldn't hold a candle to Hymie the Robot.
That's right! I think a meeting between Hymie and the Lost in Space Robot
could make a great fan-fiction story, but definitely leave Data out. Maybe a
cameo from the Jetsons' maid would be appropriate, though.
>All I remember of it is that he had enormous Coke bottle lenses, jumped out
>of
>the drapes and said "Stick 'em up." Then he squinted for a bit and said "Are
>they up?"
>
That was the line he recreated for me last year. It's the only Wilbur-dialogue
I remember, too, so maybe it's all Wilbur said!
FredHerrring
>>That Storch/Tucker Ghostbusters was so cute! I'd forgotten all about it.
Bob Burns, the actor who played the Gorilla on Ghost Busters, has his own
website. Two pages of that site are devoted to photos from and anecdotes about
the Ghost Busters show.
The URL is:
http://www.mycottage.com/bobburns/Ghostbusters1.htm
Be sure to follow the "Forward to 2" link at the bottom of this page to see
the 2nd page, too!
jeanannd
the biggest stars. Mel Brooks wrote the script for the first Get Smart
episode and then stayed on with the show and wrote or cowrote a great many
of the shows after that.
Some of the better known guest stars on Get Smart were:
Steve Allen in the episode The Mild Ones - he played the Prime Ministers
Aide.
Milton Berle - episode Don't Look Back as the Desk Clerk.
Ernest Borgnine - episode The Little Black Book - as the man on the Sofa.
Tom Bosley - episode - The Farkas Fracas as Emil Farkas
Carol Burnett - episode - One of Our Olives is Missing - as Ozark Annie.
James Caan - episode - To Sire With Love - as Rupert .
Johnny Carson - episode - Aboard the Orient Express - as the Conductor
and
in the episode - The King Lives? as the Herald.
Robert Culp - episode - Die - as the Spy Waiter.
Phyllis Diller - episode - Pheasant Under Glass - as Maxwell Smart in
Disguise.
Dana Elcar - episode - And Baby Makes Four - as Kruger.
Alice Ghostley in episodes The Last One In is A Rotten Spy and The Farkas
Fracas - as Verna and Naomi Farkas.
Buddy Hackett - Episode Maxwell Smart, Private Eye - as Wilbur.
Ted Knight - on two episodes Stakeout On Blue Mist Mountain as a Koas Agent
and in the episode Pussycats Galore as Hans Frome.
Bernie Kopell in 13 episodes as Siegfried.
Martin Landau - episode Pheasant Under Glass - as Maxwell Smart in
Disguise.
Don Rickles - Episode - The Little Black Book - as Maxwell Smart's old army
buddy. He was also in To Sire With Love (Part II only) as Dummy.
Julie Newmar - episode The Laser Blaser as Ingrid.
Leonard Nimoy - episode - The Dead Spy Scrawls - as Stryker.
Robert Patten - episode Bronzefinger - as Agent 54.
Dick Patterson - episode - The Expendable - as Agent Chain.
Regis Philbin - episode -The Hot Line - as Baker.
Vincent Price - episode Is This Trip Necessary? - as Jarvis Pim.
Avery Schreiber - episode - The Worst Best Man - as Oleg.
^ ^
>"<
jeanannd
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ray salisbury
Tom Bosley was not a big actor when he appeared on GS. Neither was
Leonard Nimoy (Star Trek debuted the following season). But I guess
everyone else you mentioned was famous when they guest starred. To
tell you the truth Jean, I feel deeply sorry for a pretty lady who
guest starred on Get Smart once. Her name was Judy Lang. She played
Mildred Spencer THE GIRL WHO GOT TURNED INTO A WAX FIGURE IN THE MODEL
EP. I hope seeing herself (when that ep aired on tv) getting attacked
on film like that and dying didn't upset her. I hope to God she's
alive and well and happy now. Also, I hope the ep didn't make her
actually miss herself (I'm very serious!) and feel, somehow, as if she
was no longer among the living. I also hope when they grabbed her in
the attack scene they didn't actually accidentally hurt her. God as my
witness! I really hope the role did her no harm emotionally or
physically and God bless her wherever she is now.
Tony Lew
To
> tell you the truth Jean, I feel deeply sorry for a pretty lady who
> guest starred on Get Smart once. Her name was Judy Lang. She played
> Mildred Spencer THE GIRL WHO GOT TURNED INTO A WAX FIGURE IN THE MODEL
> EP. I hope seeing herself (when that ep aired on tv) getting attacked
> on film like that and dying didn't upset her. I hope to God she's
> alive and well and happy now. Also, I hope the ep didn't make her
> actually miss herself (I'm very serious!) and feel, somehow, as if she
> was no longer among the living.
Just when I think Ray's posts can't get any stupider, BAM!
he proves me wrong...
FredHerrring
>Disguise.
If we're going to include Martin Landau among the
>better known guest stars on Get Smart :
we better also mention that Barbara Bain appeared in the first-season "KAOS In
Control" episode.
Graeme
>news:<af963b7c.02032...@posting.google.com>...
>>To tell you the truth Jean, I feel deeply sorry for a pretty lady who guest
starred on Get Smart once. Her name was Judy Lang. She played Mildred Spencer
THE GIRL WHO GOT TURNED INTO A WAX FIGURE IN THE MODEL EP. I hope seeing
herself (when that ep aired on tv) getting attacked on film like that and dying
didn't upset her. I hope to God she's alive and well and happy now. Also, I
hope the ep didn't make her actually miss herself (I'm very serious!) and feel,
somehow, as if she was no longer among the living.
>>
Tony wrote:
>>Just when I think Ray's posts can't get any stupider, BAM! he proves me
wrong...
>>
When you're a troll, you have to keep trying to top yourself. But if the post
were serious, I would simply point out that they, in fact, used a real
mannequin for that scene. They didn't REALLY coat Judy Lang in wax any more
than they did that to Barbara Feldon when she got the same treatment later in
the episode (which was episode 29, Shipment to Beirut, written by Arne Sultan,
BTW).
~~~~~
"All right. But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine,
public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, and public health
...What have the Romans ever done for us?"
ray salisbury
I really don't give a rat's ass what Graeme thinks but I will
semiprove to the rest of you I am not being a troll saying this about
cutiepie Judy Lang. Go to sitcomsonline.com and check out the Get
Smart messageboard section and you'll see my posting there from a
while back on how much pity I've felt for her for a very long time.
And when I spoke of her being attacked I was worried not about them
actually spraying the beauty Ms. Lang with wax (I knew they didn't
really do that to her) but rather them physically grabbing her in the
opening scene of the ep (that they sure did).
David Brunt
>I really don't give a rat's ass what Graeme thinks but I will
Well, I suppose that works both ways then...
>semiprove to the rest of you I am not being a troll saying this about
>cutiepie Judy Lang. Go to sitcomsonline.com and check out the Get
>Smart messageboard section and you'll see my posting there from a
>while back on how much pity I've felt for her for a very long time.
So you troll elsewhere? What does that prove?
>And when I spoke of her being attacked I was worried not about them
>actually spraying the beauty Ms. Lang with wax (I knew they didn't
>really do that to her) but rather them physically grabbing her in the
>opening scene of the ep (that they sure did).
She's is/was an actress, that was her job. No doubt she got paid what the
job entailed. Nobody but you is worried about it, does that suggest
something to you?
Ray, get a life. They're really worth having, very fulfilling. You won't
have to fixate on any actresses or any trivial pieces of information you
think the world *really* wants to know.
David
ray salisbury
David, you don't understand the female mind at all if you don't see
how horrifying this scene could very well be for Ms.Lang! Women
actresses have been often known to cry their eyes out if they look ten
pounds too heavy on screen! Imagine such a lady having to look at a
corpse-like representation of herself. That's the stuff female
nightmares are made of. TV was a big part of my growing years and I
still love it, though I am a bit more mature about it today than I was
ten years ago. Notice all exactly why I feel sorry for her. The
psychological effects of seeing a wax figure supposed to be the
mummified-remains of herself---that is horrible! Poor actress could
have very well ended up having nightmares similar to the one Maggie
has on DS when she sees herself in a coffin. What has Ms. Lang getting
paid money for that horrible role have to do with anything? I repeat
that question and I add on the words "unless, doubtfully, she has a
gangster's view of money" (then the question mark)! And I not only
feel bad for Judy's (very) probable horror but what if her mother saw
that episode? If she did, Mrs. Lang (?) probably screamed her head off
at the sight of Mildred Spencer's mummified remains in the form of her
baby grown! I do a Charlton Heston to the GS writers and say "DAMN YOU
ALL TO HELL!". Couldn't they have written Max to have saved the young
and lively Ms. Spencer? He saved so many women on the show he should
have been allowed to save her too!
PS I do have a life everyone. It's just that when I saw this ep I felt
so much sorow for her that I didn't ever forget it. One night me and
my girlfriend were watching GS and ths ep came on and I told her that
this was a real boring ep and would she mind if we watched something
else? We did the latter and I think I spared her a viewing bad viewing
experience.
Tony Lew
> semiprove to the rest of you I am not being a troll saying this about
> cutiepie Judy Lang. Go to sitcomsonline.com and check out the Get
> Smart messageboard section and you'll see my posting there from a
> while back on how much pity I've felt for her for a very long time.
> And when I spoke of her being attacked I was worried not about them
> actually spraying the beauty Ms. Lang with wax (I knew they didn't
> really do that to her) but rather them physically grabbing her in the
> opening scene of the ep (that they sure did).
I don't think she'd want you worrying about her. If she ever met a
creepy pervert like you, I'm sure she'd run for her life.
PostCool1
>paid money for that horrible role have to do with anything?
Is she related to Eric Lang, the doctor?
My cousin dated him a long time ago...
:-)
"If peace were mine to give, I would not have to... be honest." Barnabas
MaeAngel
> nightmares are made of.
Ray, unless you are a women, you don't know what "stuff" female nightmares
are made of. While I *am* a woman I can only speak for my *own* nightmares,
not for the whole female population.
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> corpse-like representation of herself. TV was a big part of my growing
Wind River
Do you?
David Brunt
>how horrifying this scene could very well be for Ms.Lang! Women
>actresses have been often known to cry their eyes out if they look ten
>pounds too heavy on screen!
The cult of the stroppy actress wasn't as widespread in 1966 when the
episode was made. It's just something that grew to gigantic proportions
during the 1990s.
Actress are paid to act. She read the script and had obviously agreed to
the role. Worrying about it 35 years after the event is a pointless
endeavour.
She clearly got over it, so why can't you? It's hardly something worth
worrying over.
> Imagine such a lady having to look at a
>corpse-like representation of herself. That's the stuff female
>nightmares are made of.
It's called "acting". Actors go through that sort of thing all the time.
>TV was a big part of my growing years and I
>still love it, though I am a bit more mature about it today than I was
>ten years ago.
If you're like this *now*, what the hell were you like back then???
Notice all exactly why I feel sorry for her. The
>psychological effects of seeing a wax figure supposed to be the
>mummified-remains of herself---that is horrible! Poor actress could
>have very well ended up having nightmares similar to the one Maggie
>has on DS when she sees herself in a coffin.
An "acting" role. You don't think KLS really had nightmares do you? She
saw the technicians set up those scenes, had rehearsed it and then promptly
forgot it in time for the next day's script. That's what actors do.
You are the one fixated on it.
>PS I do have a life everyone. It's just that when I saw this ep I felt
>so much sorow for her that I didn't ever forget it. One night me and
>my girlfriend were watching GS and ths ep came on and I told her that
>this was a real boring ep and would she mind if we watched something
>else? We did the latter and I think I spared her a viewing bad viewing
>experience.
Life must be a bundle of laughs in your house. Did you watch her feet?
David
Wind River
Wind River wrote:
> > David, you don't understand the female mind at all
>
> Do you?
My response was ambiguous. I wasn't directing my question at David.
Tony Lew
> That's the stuff female
> > nightmares are made of.
>
> Ray, unless you are a women, you don't know what "stuff" female nightmares
> are made of.
Maybe Ray is a transvestite.
David Brunt
<g> Okay, I knew you were replying to Raymond.
FWIW, I don't understand the female mind. Or my own for that matter...
David
Graeme
>>Is she related to Eric Lang, the doctor?
My cousin dated him a long time ago...
:-)
>>
I don't know, but do you think that sexy and talented Judy Lang was ever
traumatized by knowing that she had the same last name as a fictional, immoral,
hammy, and not at all attractive mad scientist?
(You see? Ray isn't the only one who can write this kind of nonsense.)
Graeme
>> I really don't give a rat's ass what Graeme thinks but I will
>>Well, I suppose that works both ways then...
Mostly, except that I don't have any need say it every other post. It's
interesting that even though I've had Ray killfiled for almost 4 months, this
is at least the dozenth time I've seen him say (through messages other people
have quoted) how much he doesn't care what I say. If only it were true...
I am a little embarrassed though, to, in effect get the credit for being Ray's
#1 tormenter when I can see full well that a lot of you guys who are actually
talking to him are nailing him to the wall much better than I am right now. I
feel like I'm stealing your thunder.
>>semiprove to the rest of you I am not being a troll saying this about
cutiepie Judy Lang. Go to sitcomsonline.com and check out the Get Smart
messageboard section and you'll see my posting there from a while back on how
much pity I've felt for her for a very long time.
>>
>> > So you troll elsewhere? What does that prove?
Ouch! See, you just slam dunked him. But knowing Ray he's going to give me
the credit for what you did. I'm awfully sorry about this, if there's any way
I can make it up to you...
>>Ray, get a life. They're really worth having, very fulfilling. You won't
have to fixate on any actresses or any trivial pieces of information you think
the world *really* wants to know.
David
>>
He's got a life, and it's called trolling. This is one of his games. You
weren't here last year, but he pulled this same game once over the day that
Diana Walker understudied for Nancy "Babe" Barrett (Episode 578, if anybody's
counting), and pretended to be absolutely FRANTIC with worry about what
horrible disease or injury might have caused her to miss the show that day.
The fact that Nancy was back three days later, with no obvious ill effects
didn't allay his "fears" in the slightest.
Wray rote:
>>David, you don't understand the female mind at all if you don't see how
horrifying this scene could very well be for Ms.Lang!
>>
Forever more, when I think about Ray's understanding of the female mind, I
shall remember Diva Magenta's comment to him when he left for "vacation" last
month. I'm not going to repeat it, I don't want to steal any laughs for her
joke, but I'm thinking it.
>>Women actresses have been often known to cry their eyes out if they look ten
pounds too heavy on screen! Imagine such a lady having to look at a corpse-like
representation of herself.
>>
It was a mannequin. A real, literal mannequin, and didn't look like anything
else. If you really want to troll, you might pretend to worry about Ann
Francis or Kim Cattrall, both of whom acted in productions with more realistic
looking mannequin versions of themselves than Judy Lang did.
>>TV was a big part of my growing years and I still love it, though I am a bit
more mature about it today than I was ten years ago.
>>
That statement is so frightening, that I feel like going down and locking
myself in the cyclone cellar. And we don't even have one!!
>>Notice all exactly why I feel sorry for her. The psychological effects of
seeing a wax figure supposed to be the mummified-remains of herself---that is
horrible!
>>
Come to think of it, they did something similar in Batman. In the cliffhanger
to The Impractical Joker/The Joker's Provoker, Robin is trapped inside a Spray
Wax machine, and Batman strapped to a Giant Key Duplicator. Batman gets loose,
but Robin is already mannequinized by the time he gets there, and can only be
saved with a healthy dose of Bat Wax Solvent back in the Batcave.
Of course it's quite possible that Judy Lang never saw the episode she was in
(TV actors often just go on to the next assignment after filming is done, and
don't bother to watch the broadcast when the show is finally run). She might
not even know about it unless some boob on the Usenet starts making a big deal
about it, in which case he could be responsible for her nightmares.
You ought to check out Sierra's Making of Phantasmagoria Guide sometime. In
that one there's a picture of Victoria Morsell posing alongside a VERY
realistic latex copy of her head with an bloody axe embedded in the forehead
that was used for a scene in Chapter 7, and she's SMILING at it. (And probably
thinking "Thank goodness for stunt doubles").
You see... what am I DOING? I'm actually answering a Ray post seriously. I
promised I wouldn't do that again. (shoots a spitwad at him, which sticks to
his forehead and slowly glooshes down towards his nose).
MaeAngel
anything
> else.
Obviously Graeme, you don't have enough compassion about mannequin's and
their problems with looking fat on TV. How can you be so thoughtless and
inconsiderate? ;-)
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Wind River
Graeme wrote:
Nah. It doesn't sound like Ray, and it's way too short. Sorry, Graeme. :-)
Wind River
> their problems with looking fat on TV. How can you be so thoughtless and
> inconsiderate? ;-)
Anyone know what a mannequin's feet look like?
Ray Salisbury
I'd never try to connect a beauty like Judy Lang to that. Look, God as
my witness, I seriously feel sorry for Judy Lang. Why is that so hard to
believe? Wind, you and the others are trying to make a joke of this. I
have thought of her every time I have heard someone died since seeing
that ep.
And David, alot of people have responded and nicely too to what I say
about Judy as I have writen about her in places besides just here and
Sitcomsonline.
Linda
> psychological effects of seeing a wax...
Snippage required for witty retort:
Perusing my own personal female mind, I am of the opinion that
a feasible psychological effect concerning wax would be when preceded by
the word 'bikini'.
Linda
David Brunt
>>Not only that WindRiver, but I am above having any interest in him and
I'd never try to connect a beauty like Judy Lang to that. Look, God as
my witness, I seriously feel sorry for Judy Lang. Why is that so hard to
believe?<<
Because it's such a stupid pointless and asinine thing to do?
>>Wind, you and the others are trying to make a joke of this. I
have thought of her every time I have heard someone died since seeing
that ep.<<
But for God's sake why??? The actress didn't die. It's not real you know.
Do you get upset by everyone who *dies* on TV? You really picked the wrong
show when you started watching Dark Shadows...
>>And David, alot of people have responded and nicely too to what I say
about Judy as I have writen about her in places besides just here and
Sitcomsonline.<<
If you say so. Did they reply in crayon?
David
PostCool1
Maybe fingerpaints?
They don't do crayon so well yet...
<g>
FredHerrring
>She clearly got over it, so why can't you? It's hardly something worth
>worrying over.
>
>It's called "acting". Actors go through that sort of thing all the time.
Judy Lang seemed okay a year later on The Wild Wild West, even when her boss
was murdered, she got fired at by a gunman, and Alfred Ryder abducted her and
carried her off to his undersea hideout.
I think her mannequin experience probably just made her tougher and stronger.
At the worst, she probably merely went through a brief period as a Mannequin
Depressive.
Ray Salisbury
role on Get Smart. Look, I felt sorry for Terry Crawford (as Edith
Collins) getting murdered on DS by Chris Pennock (as Gabe Collins). But
I know Terry had a great time on DS and was pretty good friends with all
the major regulars of DS at the time she was on (even Pennock) and
afterwards too so I got over my sorrow for her. But again I don't know
how Judy took her role. And what if Judy is a method actress? What if
she briefly thought she really was getting murdered? The horror that
could have been going through her mind! To think this beauty may have
had to endure the worst emotioal horror ever thrust upon a woman?I wish
someone could assure me that she had fun making the GS ep she appeared
in. And that she isn't a method actress. And that she wasn't even
accidentally hurt when they grabbed her (I worried about Alexandra
Mioltke having accidentally been really hurt by George Mitchell in the
first scene they were in together too). And that she diidn't gasp in
horror at the sight of the wax figure supposed to be her mummified
remains. If I could meet her and she told me I was all wrong about
everyting I thought may have happened to her in that ep I'd be the
happiest man on Earth.
PS One last thing I dread to think may have happened to her in that ep.
I hope the director for extra realism didn't put one over on poor Judy
and have the man who grabbed her really sneakingly grab her from behind
and gag her like that. I hope she knew that guy was going to grab her.
And I hope that that guy told her it was nothiong personal before they
began filming that scene. If I was that guy I never would have agreed to
do that scene and even pretend to harm a beautiful woman like Judy
Lang!Jesus as my witness I wouldn't!
David Windhorst
I've tried my best to suss this out solo, but am now officially giving up.
Since I'm relatively new here, apologies in
advance for an uninitiated query (then again, following this post is about
the most gonzo initiation not involving olives and blocks of ice that I can
imagine...), but, regarding Ray and a couple other frequent posters on the
ng -- are they for real? Has somebody's laudanum/Ritalin scrip expired, or
are they'all jus' a-funnin'? I don't know whether to be awed at their
resolve to stay in character despite hailstorms of abuse, or...well, the
alternative is too chilling to consider.
Tony Lew
I've never been able to figure out before whether Ray was a troll or
just really, really stupid (maybe even mildly retarded), but after this
post, I've concluded he must be a troll.
Graeme
>>Okay.
I've tried my best to suss this out solo, but am now officially giving up.
Since I'm relatively new here, apologies in advance for an uninitiated query
(then again, following this post is about the most gonzo initiation not
involving olives and blocks of ice that I can imagine...), but, regarding Ray
and a couple other frequent posters on the ng -- are they for real? >>
Ray is a self-confessed troll. You may not have been around to see the
admission, but you can check Google for posts written by him containing the
phrase "troll", "former troll", "no longer a troll", "a troll no longer", and
things like that to find one of his many confessions.
His official position is that he WAS a troll last year, but is one no longer.
However, the games he plays now are identical to the ones he played then, so
I'll let you add 2 and 2 yourself to see whether or not that makes him a troll
in the present.
Some can tell you that I spent several months last year treating him as if he
wasn't a troll, and just responding to his posts straight (and driving a few
people nuts in the process, for which I should apologize again) before writing
him off irrevocably. That's one of the reasons he's miffed at me. I think he
genuinely expected the same tricks to work indefinitely.
>>Has somebody's laudanum/Ritalin scrip expired, or are they'all jus'
a-funnin'? I don't know whether to be awed at their resolve to stay in
character despite hailstorms of abuse, or...well, the alternative is too
chilling to consider.
>>
To some people there's just no such thing as bad publicity. I really think
it's as simple as that.
Graeme
>>Nah. It doesn't sound like Ray, and it's way too short. Sorry, Graeme. :-)
>>
How about if I misspelled a few words, and you read it twice? Would that help?
Graeme
>>Obviously Graeme, you don't have enough compassion about mannequin's and
their problems with looking fat on TV. How can you be so thoughtless and
inconsiderate? ;-)
>>
Y'know, that's a good point. Would Judy Lang be less traumatized if the
mannequin was fatter than she was, or if it was thinner than she was? On one
hand, you'd think that as long as she was dead, she'd want to look her best.
But on the other hand, who'd want to be outdone by a mere mannequin? I
wonder...
Wind River
David Windhorst wrote:
> Okay.
>
> I've tried my best to suss this out solo, but am now officially giving up.
> Since I'm relatively new here, apologies in
> advance for an uninitiated query (then again, following this post is about
> the most gonzo initiation not involving olives and blocks of ice that I can
> imagine...), but, regarding Ray and a couple other frequent posters on the
> ng -- are they for real? Has somebody's laudanum/Ritalin scrip expired, or
> are they'all jus' a-funnin'? I don't know whether to be awed at their
> resolve to stay in character despite hailstorms of abuse, or...well, the
> alternative is too chilling to consider.
Uh oh. Other frequent posters lumped in the same category as Ray? Chilling
thoughts, indeed!
MaeAngel
> wonder...
I think you have stumbled across the truth here. I bet Judy was upset about
that and using the "wax thing" as a cover. So you see, Ray was on the right
track! ;-)
"Graeme" <graem...@aol.compost> wrote in message
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Graeme
>>Milton Berle - episode Don't Look Back as the Desk Clerk.
>>
Don't Look Back, by the way, is probably the most brilliant parody that Get
Smart ever did. Not having any Fugitive episodes on tape, I stole dialogue
from it for the captions on the day that Magda was a fugitive from Gypsy
Justice. John Hoyt's narrations just cracked me up.
Ray Salisbury
I was a teenager and found it so-so. I stopped watching it until I went
searching on the internet last year for other shows starring Judy Lang.
When I saw the mention of her being on WWW (and most importantly that it
came after GS) I began taping each ep of that show off the local channel
and fast forwarding through the eps and erasing them until I found the
one she was in. I was thrilled she lived in the end in that one. It was
for a while slightly hard to tell it was her and she wears glasses
throughout some of that ep. She is attractive with the glasses but is
much better looking without them.
You know everyone some people (more often ladies then men) look at a
painting and find the scene depicted horribly sad and they cry (or at
least feel like crying) the color right out of their eyes. Well, tv can
be even more sad as they usually use live actors to portray characters.
And if something terrible happens to one of the actors on camera (like
it indeed did to Judy) it can be utterly heartbreaking much more so than
characters in a painting. I hear method actors briefly becoming the
characters they are playing (which is why hope to God Judy is no method
actress). And I have heard of actors accidentally getting hurt making
movies (which is why I fear them grabbing poor Judy by the mouth). I
also can imagine many a lady seeing a simulated version of her daughter
die as MUTILATINGLY UPSETTING! And remember all what Barnabas said on
how caring for someone never requires an apology. Especially when that
someone is a beautiful lady!
Dumorte
Speaking of Mr. Berle, I just read that he passed away yesterday (Wed. March
28). I light a candle for the memory of Mr. Television!
Sidney
"There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face."
- Ben Williams
""People that hate cats will come back as mice in their next life." - Faith
Resnick
jeanannd
persecuted, and if no one is talking about him...he just makes things up.
Since most of us have him kill filed, he isn't even getting much attention
with his delusional fantasy posts......so of course he just gets more
frustrated. One would think he would realize by now that he can either
leave or behave...otherwise he is just kill filed.....but no, not Ray!
^ ^
>"<
jeanannd
"Graeme" <graem...@aol.compost> wrote in message
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Ray Salisbury
murder victim on GS. Neither does that Kim woman!
Oh and I swear to Jesus I did feel sorry for Nancy Barrett when I heard
she got sick. A beautiful woman just has to sneeze to get my pity! And I
felt bad for Vicki#1 when Alexandra Moltke was at the von Bulow trial!
Graeme
>>Why is that so hard to believe?
>>
David Brunt wrote:
>>Because it's such a stupid pointless and asinine thing to do?
>>
It makes a guy with no social skills and almost no knowledge of Dark Shadows
the center of attention in a Dark Shadows newsgroup. Maybe it's not so
pointless after all?
Graeme
>>Some of the better known guest stars on Get Smart were:
<list snipped>
>>
And don't forget King Moody, Shtarker himself, who went on to be the first
Ronald McDonald in the 70's.
He's also the spaceship Captain in Teenagers From Outer Space who delivers the
memorably ham-handed line "Vhen ve return to our planet, you may well be
subjected to TOH-CHA!"