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>Hi! I am new to this board. I watched Dark Shadows many (full) moons
>ago and always wondered this....which actors were gay and which were
>straight? It was my favorite show....so many good looking actors (and
>actresses) on board...never mind flubbed lines...it was very aesthetic
>to watch.
The ones who were straight were the ones who weren't gay. Unless they
were bi.
Thanks in advance. If I win dinner, I'll toast a glass of wine to you!
In article <8t7ug7$bj5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>I posted ths previously and got a funny response. Why I am asking is
>that I have a bet with my sister (dinner out- what a treat). When we
>were growing up, we used to watch the show religiously in my Grandmom's
>room.....my sister first fell in love with Joel Carruthers, then it was
>Roger Davis, then Don Briscoe, then David Selby and then James Storm
>before she finally got her own boyfriend and then it stopped. I told
>her that I had gotten reinterested in DS and she couldn't believe there
>were gay actors on the show (naive, simply naive) especially any of
>these gorgeous guys. Well some of the answers are obvious and some are
>not. I really could use a night out and a geat dinner (and of course,
>my sister is great company). Can anyone help me with this?
What makes you think we have this information?
Well, here's the short answer: tell your sister she owes you a dinner. Several
of the key DS players are/were gay....if she wants details, though, she might
want to consult Liz Smith...
-P
Do you know something, Susie? There are two kinds of fools in this world: the
ones who know they're making fools of themselves and the ones who are sure
they're not.
Burke Devlin
>I posted ths previously and got a funny response. Why I am asking is
>that I have a bet with my sister (dinner out- what a treat). When we
>were growing up, we used to watch the show religiously in my Grandmom's
>room.....my sister first fell in love with Joel Carruthers, then it was
>Roger Davis, then Don Briscoe, then David Selby and then James Storm
>before she finally got her own boyfriend and then it stopped. I told
>her that I had gotten reinterested in DS and she couldn't believe there
>were gay actors on the show (naive, simply naive) especially any of
>these gorgeous guys. Well some of the answers are obvious and some are
>not. I really could use a night out and a geat dinner (and of course,
>my sister is great company). Can anyone help me with this?
>
>Thanks in advance. If I win dinner, I'll toast a glass of wine to you!
>
I am a gay man, "out, loud and proud," but I don't make an issue out
of it here in this group. I approach your question gingerly because,
as you know, for practical reasons, gay actors had to remain much
more circumspect in the 60's and 70's (except for Paul Lynde and
Charles Nelson Reilly). Some of the DS gentlemen are still alive, and
people in this group have met them at conventions, etc., admire them,
and might fear that "outing" a beloved star could be disrepectful.
I think Joel Crothers was gay, at least from what I've heard here in
this newsgroup, but I know of no other substantiated reports about any
DS denizens in the "kinescope closet."
I think more than one of the male members of the DS ensemble (Bernau
and Stroka?) performed in the original Broadway run of "The Boys in
the Band," a breakthrough play about the lives of gay men which was
made into a film in 1970. Of course playing a gay role doesn't
preclude that the actors are gay.
I hope you win a paid dinner from your sister!
Florian dB
P.S. O revered Ghost of Morgan Collins, where are you? You should be
fielding this question!
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:25:26 GMT, chin...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >I posted ths previously and got a funny response. Why I am asking is
> >that I have a bet with my sister (dinner out- what a treat). When we
> >were growing up, we used to watch the show religiously in my Grandmom's
> >room.....my sister first fell in love with Joel Carruthers, then it was
> >Roger Davis, then Don Briscoe, then David Selby and then James Storm
> >before she finally got her own boyfriend and then it stopped. I told
> >her that I had gotten reinterested in DS and she couldn't believe there
> >were gay actors on the show (naive, simply naive) especially any of
> >these gorgeous guys. Well some of the answers are obvious and some are
> >not. I really could use a night out and a geat dinner (and of course,
> >my sister is great company). Can anyone help me with this?
> >
> >Thanks in advance. If I win dinner, I'll toast a glass of wine to you!
> >
>
> I am a gay man, "out, loud and proud," but I don't make an issue out
> of it here in this group. I approach your question gingerly because,
> as you know, for practical reasons, gay actors had to remain much
> more circumspect in the 60's and 70's (except for Paul Lynde and
> Charles Nelson Reilly). Some of the DS gentlemen are still alive, and
> people in this group have met them at conventions, etc., admire them,
> and might fear that "outing" a beloved star could be disrepectful.
Paul Lynde and CNR were gay. Do tell. Do tell. Maybe I'M naive, but I
did not know that.
Erica
My kids are regular viewers of "The Munsters," shown at 6:00 a.m. here, just
before "Sailor Moon" and "Pokemon." Yesterday, Paul Lynde made a guest
appearance. I heard that distinctive voice and had to rush to the living
room. He looked so young, but the voice was the same. I loved him as Uncle
Arthur on Bewitched.
Deb
we have it; we usually don't publish it to be respectful
Same here. But it doesn't really matter, since I was only interested in
the acting, especially for those hunks on DS. And right, it was up to
them what they wanted the public to know. The tradegy was that so many
died too young because of AIDS. Dying too young is a tradegy whether it
was AIDS, cancer, car accidents.....
if i sound like i have issues with my sister, i do and if i sound like
i am on a soap box, i guess i am.
In article <up2ivsgt5la258a3j...@4ax.com>,
Florian de Beaucastel <flo...@worldshare.net> wrote:
Count me as another Paul Lynde fan. I miss him.
A few DS actors are in well-known long-lasting marriages:
ex: Jerry Lacy to Julia Duffy
Some were known to prowl the town "looking for chicks" and take Dan
Curtis out on the town- much to his delight.
Roger Davis (and his buddy Don Briscoe) [And Davis dated Jacklyn
Smith for quite a while, too. I saw them together at Farmer's Market
near CBS...]
Now really... if an actor doesn't fit into the above categories AND
they played a cultured gentleman, please "do the math" as
Nathan Lane used to say.
If they were especially good-looking and died in the late 70s and 80s
that should be a definite (tragic) hint, also.
Beyond the gossip element here, this is a little interesting in that at
least one or two of them played characters with distinct "secrets" that
they were hiding from other characters.
Were they playing on two levels? Method acting? Probably... with a dash
of Olivier, too...
He married her, too. ;-)
>Paul Lynde was hilarious! I really don't care if he was gay, straight, or
>enjoyed having sex with water buffalos. He provided so many hours of
>entertainment on so many different programs. -Bill-
SHRIEK! Whoa... that was one scary image you brought to mind, Bill!
I had to toss my one dog who was on my lap while I was reading this
before she saw it too was scarred for life! [Snicker]
~*~*~*~ Alexandra ~*~*~*~
There never was a great genius without a tincture of madness.
[Aristotle]
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>On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:25:26 GMT, chin...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>>I posted ths previously and got a funny response. Why I am asking is
>>that I have a bet with my sister (dinner out- what a treat). When we
>>were growing up, we used to watch the show religiously in my Grandmom's
>>room.....my sister first fell in love with Joel Carruthers, then it was
>>Roger Davis, then Don Briscoe, then David Selby and then James Storm
>>before she finally got her own boyfriend and then it stopped. I told
>>her that I had gotten reinterested in DS and she couldn't believe there
>>were gay actors on the show (naive, simply naive) especially any of
>>these gorgeous guys. Well some of the answers are obvious and some are
>>not. I really could use a night out and a geat dinner (and of course,
>>my sister is great company). Can anyone help me with this?
>>
>>Thanks in advance. If I win dinner, I'll toast a glass of wine to you!
>>
>
>I am a gay man, "out, loud and proud," but I don't make an issue out
>of it here in this group. I approach your question gingerly because,
>as you know, for practical reasons, gay actors had to remain much
>more circumspect in the 60's and 70's (except for Paul Lynde and
>Charles Nelson Reilly). Some of the DS gentlemen are still alive, and
>people in this group have met them at conventions, etc., admire them,
>and might fear that "outing" a beloved star could be disrepectful.
Paul Lynde was gay and Charles Nelson Reilly is gay? Get out! Next
you'll be telling us that Rock Hudson was gay!
LOL! I'm sorry, Alexandra. Hope your dog's okay! : )
-Bill-
Before I knew what gay was (or that I was it) I knew that both Paul Lynde
and Jonathan Harris were queens.
also: Hayden Rourke (Dr. Bellows on JEANNIE) and Ironsides
If you want DS hints, what toothy vampire bachelor boy kept is a well-known
mama's boy?
She was actually a man.
If you look at the internet movie database, you'll see that Jonathan Harris has
been married for years. Can we please end this thread?
"You're a bad liar Willie"--Barnabas
I agree.
Knockknee
>Paul Lynde was gay and Charles Nelson Reilly is gay? Get out! Next
>you'll be telling us that Rock Hudson was gay!
Psssssssst! Eric! Hey! Liberace was gay, too!
>LOL! I'm sorry, Alexandra. Hope your dog's okay! : )
I think she will -- she's tougher than she looks!
All though I did over hear her telling the cats and the
other dogs some weird horror stories about buffalos! :)
>-Bill-
>>Now really... if an actor doesn't fit into the above categories AND
>> they played a cultured gentleman, please "do the math" as
>> Nathan Lane used to say.
>>
>>If they were especially good-looking and died in the late 70s and 80s
>>that should be a definite (tragic) hint, also.
>
>
>Before I knew what gay was (or that I was it) I knew that both Paul Lynde
>and Jonathan Harris were queens.
Jonathan Harris (Dr. Smith of "Lost in Space") is gay?
Oh, the pain. The pain.
>Eric Newman wrote:
>
>>Paul Lynde was gay and Charles Nelson Reilly is gay? Get out! Next
>>you'll be telling us that Rock Hudson was gay!
>
>Psssssssst! Eric! Hey! Liberace was gay, too!
Oh no! What about Siegfried and Roy? I've heard that one of them is
gay.
(Best response I've heard to this: "No, it's the other one.")
-Bill-
>I think she will -- she's tougher than she looks!
>All though I did over hear her telling the cats and the
>other dogs some weird horror stories about buffalos! :)
>
Does that mean there was more going on between him and the robot than we were
led to believe??
(sorry, I tried to avoid this discussion, but just couldn't hold that comment
in!)
-Bill-
Them's fightin' words, pal.
barnabas
But what he said.... :::frowns:::
And from this, we are meant to conclude ... what?
Hello DR. Hoffman...
I fail to understand why so many accuse
the very wonderful DR, Julia Hoffman as
being mannish! I would have you know
she was a pioneer in the field of curing vampirism, she was also totally self
funded... Dr. Julia Hoffman was a dedicated woman of science! and in my
opinion a very pretty one as well, and I liked her very much!
Thank you for listening to the rantings of
a ghost.
The Ghost of Sarah Collins(1784-1795)
Sister of Barnabas...@}{~~~~~~
Aunt to the still missing
Morgan Prentice Collins!
"That evil is wicked is well understood.
the wicked are punished so you must be good."
(Sarah to Barnabas.)
>>>Before I knew what gay was (or that I was it) I knew that both Paul Lynde
>>>and Jonathan Harris were queens.
>...
>>If you look at the internet movie database, you'll see that Jonathan
>>Harris has been married for years.
>
>And from this, we are meant to conclude ... what?
Excellent point gazelle, I have always believed the private lives of any
celebrity should always remain a private matter.
We should only judge their acting performance and not their personal preference
to the company they keep.
The Ghost of Sarah Collins (1784-1795)
Sister of Barnabas...@}{~~~~~~
Aunt to Morgan Prentice Collins
(where are you)???
barnabas "looking for queers under the bed" collins
Oh, far more than pretty, my little ghostling... she has more lesbians lusting
after her than any other female cast member... <smile>
DrJuliaH
As my brother said to Julia in HODS,
"I had no idea"
The Ghost of Sarah Collins (1784-1795)
Sister of Barnabas...@}{~~~~~~
Aunt to Morgan Prentice Collins
(come out, come out where ever you are)!
Sarah, you are so wise for such a young child. Wisdom must hang in the ether.
Knockknee
>In article <20001029135706...@ng-fa1.aol.com>, sara...@aol.com
>says...
>>
>>>From: gazelle
>>
>>>>>Before I knew what gay was (or that I was it) I knew that both Paul Lynde
>>>>>and Jonathan Harris were queens.
>>>...
>>>>If you look at the internet movie database, you'll see that Jonathan
>>>>Harris has been married for years.
>>>
>>>And from this, we are meant to conclude ... what?
>>
>>
>> Excellent point gazelle, I have always believed the private lives of any
>>celebrity should always remain a private matter.
>>We should only judge their acting performance and not their personal preference
>>to the company they keep.
>
>Sarah, you are so wise for such a young child.
Hold on a second! She's a 215 year old child!
She'd better be wise!
A pretty one....on what planet? (or in what PT)????
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Kiddo!... merely jesting.
The Ghost of Sarah Collins (1784-1795)
Sister of Barnabas...@}{~~~~~~
Aunt of Morgan Prentice Collins
(the MIA)
>Sarah, you are so wise for such a young child. Wisdom must hang in the
>ether.
>
>Knockknee
Sssshhhh! Mrs. Knee... don't mention
the "H" word.. Miss Vicki may be lurking about! oh my.. thank you.
your friend... Sarah (1784-1795)
Sister of Barnabas...@}{~~~~~~
Aunt of Morgan Prentice Collins
barnabas "if your shoes stink you sure can't blame it on your socks" collins
barnabas "the site of a burning witch is sure pleasant... but i could do with
out the smell" collins
Personally, I love her many reflections on the series......
Jimmy (brushing close to PUNZ territory)
Merely toying with us, huh?
Tim
~~~
"Everything that's happening must be leading to something."
-- Quentin, Parallel Time Art Critic
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email]
Huh???????????????????
>>From: drjuliah:
>
>>>Dr. Julia Hoffman was a dedicated woman of science! and in my
>>>opinion a very pretty one as well, and I liked her very much!
>>
>>Oh, far more than pretty, my little ghostling... she has more lesbians
>>lusting
>>after her than any other female cast member... <smile>
>>
>>DrJuliaH
>
> As my brother said to Julia in HODS,
> "I had no idea"
>
>The Ghost of Sarah Collins (1784-1795)
>Sister of Barnabas...@}{~~~~~~
Yes, Sarah. I think Grayson Hall may have been associated with her
oscar-nominated role as Judith Fellowes, the gym teacher from a girl's
school who Richard Burton accuses as being a lesbian in "Night of the
Iguana." (in 1960's sexist terms, "lesbian" = any sexually unfulfilled
female). Dr. Julia Hoffmann was a strong, unconventional character
(she could cure vampirism, and more unbelievably, was a woman doctor
in the 1960's!). Her love for Barnabas, although a male, had to be
kept secret, and was "forbidden" or "tabu" (since he was a vampire),
and any homosexual, male or female can relate to these tensions. When
your spectral nephew returns from his dark journeys, maybe he can tell
you more about this.
By the way, I'm glad you're back. I missed you.
Florian dB
>do little ghostlings have reflections?
>
>
yes we do... but just little ones, and only when we find dresses we were
looking for.
The Ghost of Sarah Collins (1784-1795)
Sister of Barnabas...@}{~~~~~~
Actually, I thought she was kind of attractive during the earliest appearances.
I never cared much for the curly hairstyle that she later adopted. -Bill-
>Florian dB
>
*** *** *** ***
I am sure my dear Florian there are a great many things of which my Nephew
Morgan could inform me of ... although I am positive I really don't want to
know...
Your friend
The Ghost of Sarah Collins(1784-1795)
Sister of Barnabas...@}{~~~~~~
Aunt to Morgan Prentice Collins
> I never cared much for the curly hairstyle that she later adopted. -Bill->
>
Actually the short curly hair improved her appearance 1,000%.
Apparently Sam Hall saw something in her!
I've seen a picture of Sam Hall.
He was in no position to be choosy.
>
>
Actually, she was rather striking, but neither DS nor That Darn Cat did
anything to help her appearance. The overload of make-up on her angular face
didn't help, either. But if you look back at photos of models in the fashions
and make-up of the 60's, she is not too unusual looking.
Karen
>>Psssssssst! Eric! Hey! Liberace was gay, too!
>Oh no! What about Siegfried and Roy? I've heard that one of them is
>gay.
>(Best response I've heard to this: "No, it's the other one.")
No! It can't be the other one! I thought it was that one!
~*~*~*~ Alexandra ~*~*~*~
People who offend easily should be offended more often.
[Mae West]
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The Darker Sanctuary: Dark art, Photography, PsychoFiction,
Satiric writing, Poetry, Personal Pages, and more.
Bwahahahaha! Now, that would be a lot of fun!
>-Bill-
I've been combing through these threads lately and barely
finding any PUNZ!
Um..me. Julia was chic. That's better than common prettiness any day, and it
lasts longer.
Knockknee
Yeah she was striking....the camera people probably talked about going on
strike if they had to photograph her any more.
Knocknee, I hope you realize that I'm not the one who made the "glasses"
comment. I was responding to it. -Bill-
>Jimmy wrote:
>
>>Personally, I love her many reflections on the series......
>
>>Jimmy (brushing close to PUNZ territory)
>
>I've been combing through these threads lately and barely
>finding any PUNZ!
I'm a-braid this might become a huge bun thread.
Tim
>
>
>~*~*~*~ Alexandra ~*~*~*~
>People who offend easily should be offended more often.
>[Mae West]
>
>http://www.DarkerSanctuary.com
>The Darker Sanctuary: Dark art, Photography, PsychoFiction,
>Satiric writing, Poetry, Personal Pages, and more.
~~~
>Was that what was on this morning?
Night of the Living Dead.
"They're coming to get you, Barbara."
Classic!
Tim
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Yes, I thought she was very striking too, especially in the earlier
DS episodes before she got her hair cut so short.
Florian dB
Knockknee
Ackcherly, yes, I did. Just wanted to get me 0.02 in.
Me, if I could wear a suit like Julia did, I'd be happy. But I'm cursed with a
lumpy Standard American body.
Knockknee
>
>
Knockknee
If you ask me Tim, you always have a pun in the oven!
Sarah(1784-1795)
Sister of Barnabas...@}{~~~~~~
Aunt of Morgan Prentice Collins
Trick or Treat!
/\ /\
<@> <@>
**
~~~
Oh, Gosh, what have I started????
Jimmy (apologizing profusely)
John
What word would that be HANGING perhaps,she probably lurking around ere
somewhere
your a fine one to talk,at least they can see there reflection in the
mirror LOL
>>I'm a-braid this might become a huge bun thread.
>>
>>Tim
>
> If you ask me Tim, you always have a pun in the oven!
>Sarah(1784-1795)
>Sister of Barnabas...@}{~~~~~~
>Aunt of Morgan Prentice Collins
>
> Trick or Treat!
> /\ /\
> <@> <@>
> **
> ~~~
Watch out, Sarah. You're "ASCIIng" for it [giggle]
Tim
>
>"That evil is wicked is well understood.
>the wicked are punished so you must be good."
>(Sarah to Barnabas.)
~~~
>Quick, somebody! Switch topics!
No way! I'm not going to Fall so easily for this!
>Knockknee
>>>Personally, I love her many reflections on the series......
>>>Jimmy (brushing close to PUNZ territory)
>>I've been combing through these threads lately and barely
>>finding any PUNZ!
>I'm a-braid this might become a huge bun thread.
Ah... nothing like (French) twisting the meaning of
words around to make me happy!
>Tim
Knockknee
Her love for Barnabas, although a male, had to be
> kept secret, and was "forbidden" or "tabu" (since he was a vampire),
> and any homosexual, male or female can relate to these tensions. When
> your spectral nephew returns from his dark journeys, maybe he can tell
> you more about this.
>
> By the way, I'm glad you're back. I missed you.
>
> Florian dB
>
its so hard to be a homosexual vampire these days....
barnabas
>Happy Halloween wrote:
>>Lamia Nocturna darke...@sprintmail.com wrote:
>>>Jimmy wrote:
>
>>>>Personally, I love her many reflections on the series......
>
>>>>Jimmy (brushing close to PUNZ territory)
>
>>>I've been combing through these threads lately and barely
>>>finding any PUNZ!
>
>>I'm a-braid this might become a huge bun thread.
>
>Ah... nothing like (French) twisting the meaning of
>words around to make me happy!
You're just telling one of your tall (pony) tales again.
Tim
>>>Quick, somebody! Switch topics!
>>No way! I'm not going to Fall so easily for this!
>Dear, dear, this is coiling tighter and tighter. What crop shall we reap?
Maybe we can trim this thread a little bit.
>>Ah... nothing like (French) twisting the meaning of
>>words around to make me happy!
>You're just telling one of your tall (pony) tales again.
They don't call me the lunatic fringe for nothing!