Edith Collins changes history
Thom Jenkins
This is kind of complicated to put into words but here goes:
Currently old Edith Collins is about to die and before she does
she has to pass on the family secret. (The family secret as we
know is the fact that Barnabas is a vampire and is chained in a
coffin in thr mausoleum.)
When Barnabas traveled back to 1840 the younger Edith Collins
was married to Gabrial Collins. (They mention that their children
are off at boarding school or something. Of their children one is
obviously the father of Judith, Edward and Quentin.)Now 1897 Edith
probably knows of the curse from Gabrial passing it to her at his
death and Gabrial would have had it passed to him upon his father
Daniels death who apparently had it passed to him from Barnabas'
father Joshua.
When Barnabas went to 1840 history was changed. Old Daniel Collins
died, Gabrial died and Edith died. And no mention was ever made by
anyone of them about passing on the family secret. So Edith ended up
dying 57 years before she would have had 1840 not occured.
Now Ediths grandchildren, Judith, Edward and Quentin would probably
have led different lives in 1897 if Edith died in 1840. Firstly Judith
would probably have been mistress of Collinwood for many years and
perhaps even married. Talk for years about the secret caused an intense
animosity between Edward, Judith and Quentin. Most importantly because
of Ediths 1840 death Quentin would not have been a werewolf as the only
reason Magda was at Collinwood was because old Edith Collins liked her
and let her live in the old house. Judith as mistress of Collinwood
would never have tolerated Magda. No Magda, No curse!
Therefore Quentin and Jenny may never have married (making Chris
Jennings and Amy non-existant) Had Quentin and Jenny married their
daughter may not have been farmed out to Mrs. Fillmore and Chris
Jennings would have been a Collins as would Amy.
Even complicating this matter further is that because Barnabas went
back to 1897 old Edith Collins died prematurely as she had a heart
attack and died when realizing that the man in her room visiting her
was the vampire.
Had Barnabas not been there the secret would have been passed onto
Edward who in turn would have passed it on to Jamison. Jamison as we
know is the father of Roger and Elizabeth and lived to the 1950's.
Presumablt upon Jamison's death he would have passed it on to
Elizabeth and the rest is history.
Whew! What did I start?
Steve Mihelcic
> Had Barnabas not been there the secret would have been passed onto
> Edward who in turn would have passed it on to Jamison. Jamison as we
> know is the father of Roger and Elizabeth and lived to the 1950's.
> Presumablt upon Jamison's death he would have passed it on to
> Elizabeth and the rest is history.
Then how come Elizabeth didn't know the secret the 1st time Barnabas was
awakened in 1967?
rh...@ibm.net
In article , ste...@is.usmo.com says...
> Had Barnabas not been there the secret would have been passed onto
> Edward who in turn would have passed it on to Jamison. Jamison as we
> know is the father of Roger and Elizabeth and lived to the 1950's.
> Presumablt upon Jamison's death he would have passed it on to
> Elizabeth and the rest is history.
>
>Then how come Elizabeth didn't know the secret the 1st time Barnabas was
>awakened in 1967?
Here is a better point, when Barnabas shows up in 1840, Daniel Collins is still alive and he doesn't seem a bit surprised to find Barnabas there. There is no mention of a secret and this storyline is complete negated by that fact.
Eric Newman
th...@erols.com (Thom Jenkins) wrote:
[snip]
>Whew! What did I start?
Something that probably should have been labeled "Spoiler"...
Kaviyd
In article <stevenm-2108...@ppp148031.usmo.com>,
ste...@is.usmo.com (Steve Mihelcic) writes:
>In article <3219FE...@erols.com>, th...@erols.com (Thom Jenkins)
wrote:
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>> Had Barnabas not been there the secret would have been passed onto
>> Edward who in turn would have passed it on to Jamison. Jamison as we
>> know is the father of Roger and Elizabeth and lived to the 1950's.
>> Presumablt upon Jamison's death he would have passed it on to
>> Elizabeth and the rest is history.
>
>Then how come Elizabeth didn't know the secret the 1st time Barnabas was
>awakened in 1967?
Presumably the secret was lost at a later point in the "original" history.
That
secret had to be passed on two more times -- and all it would take would
be
a sudden death to lose the secret completely. In any case, it is
certainly
possible that the secret would have died with Edith anyway -- while it
appears
that the shock of seeing Barnabas addled her mind, it is possible that in
the "original" history she was unable to relay the secret for other
reasons.
Kav...@aol.com
(David Knott)
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Kaviyd
I will label this properly for the sake of anyone who missed the article
that I am quoting:
SPOILER follows:
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In article <3219FE...@erols.com>, th...@erols.com (Thom Jenkins)
writes:
>Had Quentin and Jenny married their
>daughter may not have been farmed out to Mrs. Fillmore and Chris
>Jennings would have been a Collins as would Amy.
Not meaning to nitpick, but Chris and Amy would not have been Collinses
regardless of the upbringing of Quentin's daughter -- presumably the name
"Jennings" was derived from their father, who either was not related to
the
Collinses or who got his last name from his father, who would not have
been a Collins.
Of course, knowing their relationship to the Collinses (and not having the
werewolf curse) would have affected their lives drastically, assuming that
they still existed at all.
rh...@ibm.net
In article <3219FE...@erols.com>, th...@erols.com (Thom Jenkins)
>writes:
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>Had Quentin and Jenny married their
>daughter may not have been farmed out to Mrs. Fillmore and Chris
>Jennings would have been a Collins as would Amy.
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