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TMC
Apr 22, 2013, 7:21:16 PM4/22/13
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http://whatculture.com/tv/10-stupid-decisions-that-killed-great-tv-shows.php
Television is a volatile business where everything can change in an
instant. But the core tenet of television production is making wise
decisions. At the heart of everything you’ll ever see on television is
a single decision. Sometimes they’re good ones like “Let’s give The
Black Adder another try”, sometimes they’re terrible ones like “Let’s
make a sitcom about Hitler”, and sometimes they’re stupid ones that
kill great programmes before their time.
Here are ten of those decisions…
Read more at http://whatculture.com/tv/10-stupid-decisions-that-killed-great-tv-shows.php#cZWRuWSEQJdeXx9q.99
Television is a volatile business where everything can change in an
instant. But the core tenet of television production is making wise
decisions. At the heart of everything you’ll ever see on television is
a single decision. Sometimes they’re good ones like “Let’s give The
Black Adder another try”, sometimes they’re terrible ones like “Let’s
make a sitcom about Hitler”, and sometimes they’re stupid ones that
kill great programmes before their time.
Here are ten of those decisions…
Read more at http://whatculture.com/tv/10-stupid-decisions-that-killed-great-tv-shows.php#cZWRuWSEQJdeXx9q.99
Professor Bubba
Apr 22, 2013, 10:44:05 PM4/22/13
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In article
<5710cc0f-9e9f-40ae...@af5g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>,
Batman is #10 on the list. True, NBC put out a feeler about continuing
Batman, but it doesn't seem to have been more than half-hearted. The
destruction of the standing sets could easily have been explained away
as a devastating attack on the Batcave, which would necessarily have
destroyed stately Wayne Manor above it. Batman and Robin could then
have operated out of an apartment in town, which is what they wound up
doing in the comics anyway around 1970.
In his memoir Back to the Batcave, Adam West says he was tired of the
part and was more than ready for the series to end. He also notes that
producer William Dozier's attention had drifted elsewhere.
<5710cc0f-9e9f-40ae...@af5g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>,
Batman, but it doesn't seem to have been more than half-hearted. The
destruction of the standing sets could easily have been explained away
as a devastating attack on the Batcave, which would necessarily have
destroyed stately Wayne Manor above it. Batman and Robin could then
have operated out of an apartment in town, which is what they wound up
doing in the comics anyway around 1970.
In his memoir Back to the Batcave, Adam West says he was tired of the
part and was more than ready for the series to end. He also notes that
producer William Dozier's attention had drifted elsewhere.
David Johnston
Apr 23, 2013, 2:00:09 PM4/23/13
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that I'm not sure it belongs on the list. Earth 2 was a failure from
the get-go. While the retool might have been a stupid idea, it was
going to be cancelled anyway. But the Great Gazoo was unquestionably a
stupid decision.
William December Starr
Apr 24, 2013, 9:55:58 PM4/24/13
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In article <kl6i1g$ff0$1...@dont-email.me>,
enough eyeballs?
I kind of liked it. I don't think NBC ever did, though.
-- wds
David Johnston <Da...@block.net> said:
> Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. While the retool might
> have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
> Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. While the retool might
> have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
enough eyeballs?
I kind of liked it. I don't think NBC ever did, though.
-- wds
anim8rFSK
Apr 25, 2013, 1:36:58 AM4/25/13
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In article <kla2fe$r08$1...@panix2.panix.com>,
I liked that the opening was done on a Mac. Deborah Farentino never
worked for me, but Jessica Steen sure did.
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
worked for me, but Jessica Steen sure did.
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
Ian J. Ball
Apr 25, 2013, 1:48:05 AM4/25/13
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On Apr 24, 10:36 pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <kla2fe$r0...@panix2.panix.com>,
> wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
> > In article <kl6i1g$ff...@dont-email.me>,
> In article <kla2fe$r0...@panix2.panix.com>,
> wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
> > In article <kl6i1g$ff...@dont-email.me>,
> > David Johnston <Da...@block.net> said:
>
> > > Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. While the retool might
> > > have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
>
> > Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
> > enough eyeballs?
>
> > I kind of liked it. I don't think NBC ever did, though.
>
>
> > > Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. While the retool might
> > > have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
>
> > Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
> > enough eyeballs?
>
> > I kind of liked it. I don't think NBC ever did, though.
>
> I liked that the opening was done on a Mac. Deborah Farentino never
> worked for me, but Jessica Steen sure did.
Uh, Rebecca Gayheart, anyone?!
> worked for me, but Jessica Steen sure did.
anim8rFSK
Apr 25, 2013, 8:40:03 AM4/25/13
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In article
<574eb9b9-26e9-4105...@a15g2000pbu.googlegroups.com>,
Sure, if you want somebody to kill your children.
<574eb9b9-26e9-4105...@a15g2000pbu.googlegroups.com>,
David Johnston
Apr 25, 2013, 11:33:09 AM4/25/13
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based on personal taste, but in business terms. And in business terms,
Earth 2 didn't attract an adequate-sized audience.
Ian J. Ball
Apr 25, 2013, 11:37:16 AM4/25/13
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> <574eb9b9-26e9-4105-a65e-282ac64bd...@a15g2000pbu.googlegroups.com>,
But, 20 years ago, she would have *looked great* doing it!! ;p
anim8rFSK
Apr 25, 2013, 1:59:12 PM4/25/13
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In article
<0ed8fe1c-ee03-425d...@hc4g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
<0ed8fe1c-ee03-425d...@hc4g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijb...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 5:40�am, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <574eb9b9-26e9-4105-a65e-282ac64bd...@a15g2000pbu.googlegroups.com>,
> > �"Ian J. Ball" <ijb...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > On Apr 24, 10:36�pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > In article <kla2fe$r0...@panix2.panix.com>,
> > > > �wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
> > > > > In article <kl6i1g$ff...@dont-email.me>,
> > > > > David Johnston <Da...@block.net> said:
> >
> > > > > > Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. �While the retool might
> > > > > > have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
> >
> > > > > Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
> > > > > enough eyeballs?
> >
> > > > > I kind of liked it. �I don't think NBC ever did, though.
> >
> > > > I liked that the opening was done on a Mac. �Deborah Farentino never
> > > > worked for me, but Jessica Steen sure did.
> >
> > > Uh, Rebecca Gayheart, anyone?!
> >
> > Sure, if you want somebody to kill your children.
>
> But, 20 years ago, she would have *looked great* doing it!! ;p
IIRC, her nitwit husband on Earth 2 sort of rendered them both useless.
> On Apr 25, 5:40�am, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <574eb9b9-26e9-4105-a65e-282ac64bd...@a15g2000pbu.googlegroups.com>,
> > �"Ian J. Ball" <ijb...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > On Apr 24, 10:36�pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > In article <kla2fe$r0...@panix2.panix.com>,
> > > > �wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
> > > > > In article <kl6i1g$ff...@dont-email.me>,
> > > > > David Johnston <Da...@block.net> said:
> >
> > > > > > Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. �While the retool might
> > > > > > have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
> >
> > > > > Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
> > > > > enough eyeballs?
> >
> > > > > I kind of liked it. �I don't think NBC ever did, though.
> >
> > > > I liked that the opening was done on a Mac. �Deborah Farentino never
> > > > worked for me, but Jessica Steen sure did.
> >
> > > Uh, Rebecca Gayheart, anyone?!
> >
> > Sure, if you want somebody to kill your children.
>
> But, 20 years ago, she would have *looked great* doing it!! ;p
William December Starr
Apr 25, 2013, 9:12:38 PM4/25/13
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In article <anim8rfsk-BAF6D...@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> said:
[ re Rebecca Gayheart on "Eart 2" ]
> IIRC, her nitwit husband on Earth 2 sort of rendered them both
> useless.
I had the feeling that one of planned longer-range bits of the
show was him changing over time into a mensch.
-- wds
anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> said:
[ re Rebecca Gayheart on "Eart 2" ]
> IIRC, her nitwit husband on Earth 2 sort of rendered them both
> useless.
show was him changing over time into a mensch.
-- wds
William December Starr
Apr 25, 2013, 9:26:41 PM4/25/13
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In article <klbi5k$si8$1...@dont-email.me>,
David Johnston <Da...@block.net> said:
> William December Starr wrote:
>> David Johnston <Da...@block.net> said:
>>
>>> Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. While the retool might
>>> have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
>>
>> Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
>> enough eyeballs?
>>
>> I kind of liked it. I don't think NBC ever did, though.
>
> I didn't much much like it but I don't account shows to be
> failures based on personal taste, but in business terms. And in
> business terms, Earth 2 didn't attract an adequate-sized audience.
True. If I recall correctly though, NBC crippled it by pre-empting
it noticeably more than most shows, and on top of that in the
Eastern market it got pushed back from its scheduled start time by
fooball game-overrun at least twice. (NBC carried the NFL back in
those ancient days.)
Yeah, I am remembering correctly -- the epguides.com listing,
annotated by me, says:
1 1-01 06/Nov/94 First Contact (1)
2 1-02 06/Nov/94 First Contact (2)
3 1-03 13/Nov/94 The Man Who Fell to Earth (Two)
4 1-04 20/Nov/94 Life Lessons
5 1-05 27/Nov/94 Promises, Promises
6 1-06 04/Dec/94 A Memory Play
7 1-07 11/Dec/94 Water
8 1-08 18/Dec/94 The Church of Morgan
(Absent or rerun two Sundays in a row due to Christmas and New Year's Day)
9 1-09 08/Jan/95 The Enemy Within
(Absent or rerun on Jan 15)
10 1-10 22/Jan/95 Redemption
11 1-11 05/Feb/95 Moon Cross
(Absent or rerun on Feb 12)
12 1-12 19/Feb/95 Better Living Through Morganite (1)
13 1-13 26/Feb/95 Better Living Through Morganite (2)
14 1-14 05/Mar/95 Grendlers in the Myst
15 1-15 12/Mar/95 The Greatest Love Story Never Told
(Absent or rerun on Mar 19)
(By here, NBC had probably already decided to give up on the show)
16 1-16 26/Mar/95 Brave New Pacifica
17 1-17 02/Apr/95 After the Thaw
(Absent or rerun on Apr 9 and Apr 16)
18 1-18 23/Apr/95 The Boy Who Would Be Terrian King
19 1-19 23/Apr/95 Survival of the Fittest
(Absent or rerun on Apr 30, May 7, and May 14)
20 1-20 21/May/95 All About Eve
21 1-21 28/May/95 Natural Born Grendlers
22 1-22 04/Jun/95 Flower Child
-- wds
David Johnston <Da...@block.net> said:
> William December Starr wrote:
>> David Johnston <Da...@block.net> said:
>>
>>> Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. While the retool might
>>> have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
>>
>> Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
>> enough eyeballs?
>>
>> I kind of liked it. I don't think NBC ever did, though.
>
> I didn't much much like it but I don't account shows to be
> failures based on personal taste, but in business terms. And in
> business terms, Earth 2 didn't attract an adequate-sized audience.
it noticeably more than most shows, and on top of that in the
Eastern market it got pushed back from its scheduled start time by
fooball game-overrun at least twice. (NBC carried the NFL back in
those ancient days.)
Yeah, I am remembering correctly -- the epguides.com listing,
annotated by me, says:
1 1-01 06/Nov/94 First Contact (1)
2 1-02 06/Nov/94 First Contact (2)
3 1-03 13/Nov/94 The Man Who Fell to Earth (Two)
4 1-04 20/Nov/94 Life Lessons
5 1-05 27/Nov/94 Promises, Promises
6 1-06 04/Dec/94 A Memory Play
7 1-07 11/Dec/94 Water
8 1-08 18/Dec/94 The Church of Morgan
(Absent or rerun two Sundays in a row due to Christmas and New Year's Day)
9 1-09 08/Jan/95 The Enemy Within
(Absent or rerun on Jan 15)
10 1-10 22/Jan/95 Redemption
11 1-11 05/Feb/95 Moon Cross
(Absent or rerun on Feb 12)
12 1-12 19/Feb/95 Better Living Through Morganite (1)
13 1-13 26/Feb/95 Better Living Through Morganite (2)
14 1-14 05/Mar/95 Grendlers in the Myst
15 1-15 12/Mar/95 The Greatest Love Story Never Told
(Absent or rerun on Mar 19)
(By here, NBC had probably already decided to give up on the show)
16 1-16 26/Mar/95 Brave New Pacifica
17 1-17 02/Apr/95 After the Thaw
(Absent or rerun on Apr 9 and Apr 16)
18 1-18 23/Apr/95 The Boy Who Would Be Terrian King
19 1-19 23/Apr/95 Survival of the Fittest
(Absent or rerun on Apr 30, May 7, and May 14)
20 1-20 21/May/95 All About Eve
21 1-21 28/May/95 Natural Born Grendlers
22 1-22 04/Jun/95 Flower Child
-- wds
Jim Hawkins
Sep 15, 2013, 6:29:42 AM9/15/13
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TMC wrote:
> http://whatculture.com/tv/10-stupid-decisions-that-killed-great-tv-shows.php
>
> Television is a volatile business where everything can change in an
> instant. But the core tenet of television production is making wise
> decisions. At the heart of everything you'll ever see on television is
> a single decision. Sometimes they're good ones like "Let's give The
> Black Adder another try", sometimes they're terrible ones like "Let's
> make a sitcom about Hitler", and sometimes they're stupid ones that
> kill great programmes before their time.
>
> Here are ten of those decisions.
> http://whatculture.com/tv/10-stupid-decisions-that-killed-great-tv-shows.php
>
> Television is a volatile business where everything can change in an
> instant. But the core tenet of television production is making wise
> decisions. At the heart of everything you'll ever see on television is
> a single decision. Sometimes they're good ones like "Let's give The
> Black Adder another try", sometimes they're terrible ones like "Let's
> make a sitcom about Hitler", and sometimes they're stupid ones that
> kill great programmes before their time.
>
>
>
> Read more at
> http://whatculture.com/tv/10-stupid-decisions-that-killed-great-tv-shows.php#cZWRuWSEQJdeXx9q.99
Did the powers that be drop that wonderful pair, John Bird and and
>
> Read more at
> http://whatculture.com/tv/10-stupid-decisions-that-killed-great-tv-shows.php#cZWRuWSEQJdeXx9q.99
John Fortune - or did they decide to quit television ?
Jim Hawkins
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