'Buffy' motion comic rumours confirmed
kim
Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season Eight is being adapted into a motion comic.
Casting for voice actors for the forthcoming series of webisodes began this
week, reports Sci Fi Wire.
The motion comic will be based on Joss Whedon's Eisner Award-winning series
from Dark Horse.
Casting director Jeff Shuter is seeking actors to play all the familiar
Buffy characters as well as newly-introduced antagonists including the
mysterious Twilight and British socialite-cum-slayer Lady Genevieve Savidge.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season Eight picks up where the television series
left off, with Buffy commanding an army of vampire slayers from their base
in a castle in the Scottish highlands.
grinningdemon
>"kim" <ntsc...@aol.com> wrote in
>news:K_ydnbtqduzUmZnW...@giganews.com:
>
>> Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season Eight is being adapted into a motion
>> comic.
>
>And there goes my hope that the comics will never be integrated into canon
>:-(
Uhh...they already are canon according to Joss...and he's pretty much
the only opinion that matters here.
Morgoth's Curse
Heh. Joss should be so lucky.
Just off the top of your head, can anyone name any story that
continued through three different types of media? (I refer to a story
by a single author and not multiple authors.)
Morgoth's Curse
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Ben Morrow
Quoth Morgoth's Curse <morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com>:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:28:11 -0600, grinningdemon
> <grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Uhh...they already are canon according to Joss...and he's pretty much
> >the only opinion that matters here.
>
> Heh. Joss should be so lucky.
>
> Just off the top of your head, can anyone name any story that
> continued through three different types of media? (I refer to a story
> by a single author and not multiple authors.)
IIRC the Babylon 5 tie-in novels and comics are considered canon, and had
effects on the canon (TV) universe.
(Why do you say 'three'? BtVS has only used two, so far.)
Ben
grinningdemon
wrote:
He's either counting the original movie (which he shouldn't) or he
considers motion comics as a seperate type of media (which I don't
think rises to that level)...of course, there are also Buffy novels
but none of them are canon (except maybe for the Tales of the Slayers
anthologies).
Morgoth's Curse
I included the original movie because the script originated with Joss
Whedon. When Kuzui botched it, he turned to television to advance the
story and now he seems to have switched to graphic novels to continue
it.
Joss is entitled to his delusions, but I am not buying it. I refuse
to waste time reading any of the comics or books. As far as I am
concerned, Buffy the Vampire Slayer began with "Welcome to the
Hellmouth" and ended with "Chosen."
Dale Hicks
morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com says...
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:21:26 -0600, grinningdemon
> <grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:37:58 +0000, Ben Morrow <b...@morrow.me.uk>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Quoth Morgoth's Curse <morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com>:
> >>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:28:11 -0600, grinningdemon
> >>> <grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >Uhh...they already are canon according to Joss...and he's pretty much
> >>> >the only opinion that matters here.
> >>>
> >>> Heh. Joss should be so lucky.
> >>>
> >>> Just off the top of your head, can anyone name any story that
> >>> continued through three different types of media? (I refer to a story
> >>> by a single author and not multiple authors.)
> >
> >considers motion comics as a seperate type of media (which I don't
> >think rises to that level)...of course, there are also Buffy novels
> >but none of them are canon (except maybe for the Tales of the Slayers
> >anthologies).
>
> I included the original movie because the script originated with Joss
> Whedon. When Kuzui botched it, he turned to television to advance the
> story and now he seems to have switched to graphic novels to continue
> it.
I agree with you, because it's clear at the start of the TV show that
something resembling the movie happened to TV Buffy (a chosen and
watched girl killing lots of vamps by burning the school down, that
kind of thing).
It was like Yojimbo continuity.
--
Cranial Crusader dgh 1138 at bell south point net
Dale Hicks
Dale Hicks
morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com says...
>
> Just off the top of your head, can anyone name any story that
> continued through three different types of media? (I refer to a story
> by a single author and not multiple authors.)
Firefly/Serenity: Those Left Behind/Serenity.
Of course there was the continuity glitch with this one as well, what
with the Doc going from bumbling to suave.
Michael Ikeda
news:MPG.257144b57...@news.eternal-september.org:
> In article <h54cg5dkvn71uttm1...@4ax.com>,
> morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com says...
>>
>> Just off the top of your head, can anyone name any story that
>> continued through three different types of media? (I refer to
>> a story by a single author and not multiple authors.)
>
> Firefly/Serenity: Those Left Behind/Serenity.
>
> Of course there was the continuity glitch with this one as well,
> what with the Doc going from bumbling to suave.
>
Seems like Star Wars should count, and for more than three types of
media. George Lucas doesn't write everything in all of the different
media, but he does oversee the whole tapestry.
--
Michael Ikeda mmi...@erols.com
"Telling a statistician not to use sampling is like telling an
astronomer they can't say there is a moon and stars"
Lynne Billard, past president American Statistical Association
Marc Espie
Morgoth's Curse <morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
>Joss is entitled to his delusions, but I am not buying it. I refuse
>to waste time reading any of the comics or books. As far as I am
>concerned, Buffy the Vampire Slayer began with "Welcome to the
>Hellmouth" and ended with "Chosen."
"Waste time ?" that's your opinion. I'm not always really fond of Joss'
comics writing, but there are true gems in the comics book related to
Buffy, such as Fray, for instance (which would have been real hard and
expensive to produce as television).
Morgoth's Curse
>Dale Hicks <a...@b.com> wrote in
>news:MPG.257144b57...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> In article <h54cg5dkvn71uttm1...@4ax.com>,
>> morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com says...
>>>
>>> Just off the top of your head, can anyone name any story that
>>> continued through three different types of media? (I refer to
>>> a story by a single author and not multiple authors.)
>
>Seems like Star Wars should count, and for more than three types of
>media. George Lucas doesn't write everything in all of the different
>media, but he does oversee the whole tapestry.
Star Wars is an excellent example. I loved the first three movies
that were released in the '70's & '80's, but I just could not get into
various comics, computer games and books that followed. (The
exceptions were Brian Daley's three Han Solo novels which, of course,
were not written by Lucas.) I did buy as many of the action figurines
as I could when I was a boy, but I used those toys to create my own
adventures rather than reenact anything in the movies.
Morgoth's Curse
wrote:
As I have observed before in this newsgroup, I cannot make the
transition from one type of media to another. It is just too
difficult to reconcile the live character that we have seen and
enjoyed via a television screen for several years with the flat
illustration of a graphic novel. Every gifted actor or actress makes
a role his or her own and we associate that actor/actress with the
character thereafter. Sarah Michelle Gellar is Buffy just as Lucy
Lawless is Xena. I cannot imagine another actress filling either
role. It's impossible to transfer the unique characteristics that
both actresses brought to the role--the facial expressions, the smile,
the poise, et cetera. It's like starting a sentence in one language
and then finishing it in binary code.
grinningdemon
<morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
Under normal circumstances, I would agree with you...most TV or Movie
stories continued as comics are crap...but the story and dialogue of
Buffy comes so much from Joss that, with his involvement, the
transition actually worked very well, in my opinion...the characters
all look as they should (generally) and their dialogue is pretty much
spot on...and the comics allow for stories on a larger scale...it's a
good follow up and, if you can't enjoy it, I feel sorry for you.
I'm not saying the comics have been perfect...anymore than the show
was perfect...there are certain storylines or scenes I could have done
without from both versions...but, all in all, I am very happy to see
the story continued.
grinningdemon
wrote:
>In article <v10fg5do9njiol9hb...@4ax.com>,
Agreed.
grinningdemon
That "something resembling the movie" was Joss' original script for
the movie...which is not the movie that was made...his original script
later appeared as a comic mini series called Buffy: The Origin.
Ben Morrow
Quoth grinningdemon <grinni...@austin.rr.com>:
More importantly, all the bits that matter appeared in 'Becoming I'. The
Kuzui film is not part of the same continuity as the BtVS TV series.
Ben
Morgoth's Curse
<grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>Under normal circumstances, I would agree with you...most TV or Movie
>stories continued as comics are crap...but the story and dialogue of
>Buffy comes so much from Joss that, with his involvement, the
>transition actually worked very well, in my opinion...the characters
>all look as they should (generally) and their dialogue is pretty much
>spot on...and the comics allow for stories on a larger scale...it's a
>good follow up and, if you can't enjoy it, I feel sorry for you.
>
>I'm not saying the comics have been perfect...anymore than the show
>was perfect...there are certain storylines or scenes I could have done
>without from both versions...but, all in all, I am very happy to see
>the story continued.
If the series had started as a graphic novel and continued in that
format, I would probably enjoy it. If the so-called eighth season was
on television, I would watch it. It is the _transition_ that is
impossible.
Think of it this way. You are a fish. For seven years you have been
happily swimming in a sea of full of wonders. Then suddenly you are
yanked out of the water, flung onto land and expected to breathe
oxygen from now on. I cannot be the only one who is unwilling to make
the transition.
grinningdemon
<morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:41:49 -0600, grinningdemon
><grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Under normal circumstances, I would agree with you...most TV or Movie
>>stories continued as comics are crap...but the story and dialogue of
>>Buffy comes so much from Joss that, with his involvement, the
>>transition actually worked very well, in my opinion...the characters
>>all look as they should (generally) and their dialogue is pretty much
>>spot on...and the comics allow for stories on a larger scale...it's a
>>good follow up and, if you can't enjoy it, I feel sorry for you.
>>
>>I'm not saying the comics have been perfect...anymore than the show
>>was perfect...there are certain storylines or scenes I could have done
>>without from both versions...but, all in all, I am very happy to see
>>the story continued.
>
>If the series had started as a graphic novel and continued in that
>format, I would probably enjoy it. If the so-called eighth season was
>on television, I would watch it. It is the _transition_ that is
>impossible.
If the 8th season was on TV, they wouldn't have been able to do most
of what they have done for budgetary reasons...the comics allow
stories on a grander scale.
>Think of it this way. You are a fish. For seven years you have been
>happily swimming in a sea of full of wonders. Then suddenly you are
>yanked out of the water, flung onto land and expected to breathe
>oxygen from now on. I cannot be the only one who is unwilling to make
>the transition.
I'm sure there are many like you who are unwilling to make the
transition...and all I can say is that you are missing out...and that
I find your fish comparison somewhat flawed.
One Bit Shy
news:mlnhg5l9mo3ppfro6...@4ax.com...
The comic continuation of the Angel series actually features a telepathic
fish out of water.
OBS
Fallen
> On 21 Nov 2009 11:09:45 GMT, Michael Ikeda <mmi...@erols.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Dale Hicks <a...@b.com> wrote in
>>news:MPG.257144b57...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>
>>>In article <h54cg5dkvn71uttm1...@4ax.com>,
>>>morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com says...
>>>
>>>>Just off the top of your head, can anyone name any story that
>>>>continued through three different types of media? (I refer to
>>>>a story by a single author and not multiple authors.)
>>
>>Seems like Star Wars should count, and for more than three types of
>>media. George Lucas doesn't write everything in all of the different
>>media, but he does oversee the whole tapestry.
>
>
> Star Wars is an excellent example. I loved the first three movies
> that were released in the '70's & '80's, but I just could not get into
> various comics, computer games and books that followed. (The
> exceptions were Brian Daley's three Han Solo novels which, of course,
> were not written by Lucas.) I did buy as many of the action figurines
> as I could when I was a boy, but I used those toys to create my own
> adventures rather than reenact anything in the movies.
>
> Morgoth's Curse
>
If Star Wars counts then so does Star Trek. Although the vast majority
of books and comics aren't canon there are some exceptions that means
they traversed media types. It even has it's own language.
Fallen.
grinningdemon
wrote:
And that was actually taken from the non-canon comics...Joss liked it
and told the writer to put it in the book...the Angel book hasn't been
as good as the Buffy book though.
Morgoth's Curse
wrote:
>If Star Wars counts then so does Star Trek. Although the vast majority
>of books and comics aren't canon there are some exceptions that means
>they traversed media types. It even has it's own language.
>
>Fallen.
Well, both Star Wars and Star Trek have effectively become franchises
rather than a story by one author and I have also heard that Star Trek
has deviated quite a bit from Roddenberry's original vision. (I
stopped watching after Deep Space Nine, so I cannot confirm that or
provide any examples.)
The beauty of restricting a story to single format is that no
adjustment is necessary. You buy the book and you have the whole
story. You buy the DVD series and you have the whole story. You own
the movie trilogy and you have the whole story. There is no need to
switch between different formats to follow a single story. Increasing
complexity diminishes the number of people who can actually enjoy the
story--just compare the number of posters now with the number who
posted while Buffy was a television series.
grinningdemon
<morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:58:36 +0000, Fallen <fal...@ntlworld.com>
>wrote:
>
>>If Star Wars counts then so does Star Trek. Although the vast majority
>>of books and comics aren't canon there are some exceptions that means
>>they traversed media types. It even has it's own language.
>>
>>Fallen.
>
>Well, both Star Wars and Star Trek have effectively become franchises
>rather than a story by one author and I have also heard that Star Trek
>has deviated quite a bit from Roddenberry's original vision. (I
>stopped watching after Deep Space Nine, so I cannot confirm that or
>provide any examples.)
>
>The beauty of restricting a story to single format is that no
>adjustment is necessary. You buy the book and you have the whole
>story. You buy the DVD series and you have the whole story. You own
>the movie trilogy and you have the whole story. There is no need to
>switch between different formats to follow a single story. Increasing
>complexity diminishes the number of people who can actually enjoy the
>story--just compare the number of posters now with the number who
>posted while Buffy was a television series.
>
>Morgoth's Curse
The show has been off the air for several years now and there is
probably a significant number of fans who aren't even aware of the
comic or at least aren't aware that it is canon...and, of course,
there are fans like yourself that are unwilling to crossover.
That said, many of these newsgroups are drying up now...not just this
group...many fans have abandoned these groups for other online forums.
One Bit Shy
I'm not caught up with it. (Nor Buffy for that matter. I only buy the
trade books. The single issues are just too small for me.) But I thought
the story ideas were decent. The dialogue not as good, but not awful
either. I think it's biggest problem was going for the constant red/brown
gloom that washes out visual detail. It's a strain to look at. There's
just no contrast.
I liked Buffy Season 8 quite a bit early on, but I think it's declined a lot
since. (At least up to where I am, which I think is issue 25.) The
resolution to Dawn's thrice-wise spell struck me as terribly anti-climatic.
Faith and Giles in the town with the slayer eating demon was just awful.
That and the story about the cute vampire stuffed toys reminded me a lot of
the kind of story telling the old Buffy comics used to routinely offer -
which was generally pretty bad. But the biggest disappointment for me was
the time trip to the world of Fray. The Willow component of the story was
fine, but Fray was a positively brilliant series, while the return did a
miserable job of giving any kind of feel for Fray's world. It just reprised
the old characters, totally depending on people's memories of what made them
cool in the original series.
But I'm curious enough as to where the broad story is going that I'll
probably stick through Season 8. Even with its struggles it's still better
than most comic books by a lot.
As for being canon... <shrug> What else would be canon? It's not like
there's viable competition for the label. I think more to the point is that
it's a post-BtVS TV show imagining. A new story with the TV show's ending
as this story's departure point. The TV show is still complete in itself
with a beginning and end. Whether this is considered canon or not really
has no bearing on the old series. That series doesn't need anything but the
open ended future it provided. Season 8 is superfluous. But if you want to
imagine a slayer future, then this surely is one possibility.
OBS
grinningdemon
wrote:
Joss hasn't been as involved in the Angel comic as he has with the
Buffy book...it was kind of an afterthought...my understanding is that
he helped plot out the basic story according to what he had intended
for Angel Season 6 and then let the guy that was already doing the
Angel comics run with it...and, now that the "After the Fall"
storyline is done, I'm not sure Joss has any involvement at all with
what has come since...and, on top of all that, the Angel comics are
from the IDW which is an all around inferior publisher to Dark
Horse...if Dark Horse had held on to the Angel comic rights (that they
used to have), it would probably be a much better book.
>I liked Buffy Season 8 quite a bit early on, but I think it's declined a lot
>since. (At least up to where I am, which I think is issue 25.) The
>resolution to Dawn's thrice-wise spell struck me as terribly anti-climatic.
>Faith and Giles in the town with the slayer eating demon was just awful.
>That and the story about the cute vampire stuffed toys reminded me a lot of
>the kind of story telling the old Buffy comics used to routinely offer -
>which was generally pretty bad. But the biggest disappointment for me was
>the time trip to the world of Fray. The Willow component of the story was
>fine, but Fray was a positively brilliant series, while the return did a
>miserable job of giving any kind of feel for Fray's world. It just reprised
>the old characters, totally depending on people's memories of what made them
>cool in the original series.
Season 8 was better earlier on...but I'm still enjoying it...more than
I enjoyed Seasons 6 or 7 actually...as for Fray, I liked that arc well
enough but I do hope that Joss will get around to doing more Fray
stories down the line (a second mini, perhaps).
>But I'm curious enough as to where the broad story is going that I'll
>probably stick through Season 8. Even with its struggles it's still better
>than most comic books by a lot.
I love the idea of the series conitnuing as a comic...but, then again,
I've always been a comic fan...in the past, comics based on TV or
movies have generally sucked (with few exceptions) because they were
just poor attempts at capitalizing on the brand, so to speak...even
the first run of Buffy comics (back when the show was still on) were
mostly forgettable (though there are some nice exceptions)...but now,
with the creative and commerical success of the Buffy comic, other
shows are beginning to be continued as comics in a serious
fashion...I've very much enjoyed the Farscape comics, for
instance...the medium works very well for these types of shows.
>As for being canon... <shrug> What else would be canon? It's not like
>there's viable competition for the label. I think more to the point is that
>it's a post-BtVS TV show imagining. A new story with the TV show's ending
>as this story's departure point. The TV show is still complete in itself
>with a beginning and end. Whether this is considered canon or not really
>has no bearing on the old series. That series doesn't need anything but the
>open ended future it provided. Season 8 is superfluous. But if you want to
>imagine a slayer future, then this surely is one possibility.
True...the show still stands on it's own...I just look at this as a
bonus.
Ben Morrow
Quoth "One Bit Shy" <O...@nomail.sorry>:
>
> I liked Buffy Season 8 quite a bit early on, but I think it's declined a lot
> since. (At least up to where I am, which I think is issue 25.)
Yes. 'The Chain' is easily the best issue to date, which is a bit of a
shame. Certainly the 'Predators and Prey' arc was really rather bad
(sory Jane).
> As for being canon... <shrug> What else would be canon? It's not like
> there's viable competition for the label. I think more to the point is that
> it's a post-BtVS TV show imagining. A new story with the TV show's ending
> as this story's departure point. The TV show is still complete in itself
> with a beginning and end.
Hmm, here I think I actually disagree with you. While the end of S7 is
staged as though it's a resolution to the series, looking back on it it
really opens more questions than it closes. I think I like 'Chosen'
better, in retrospect, knowing that it's not the end.
(I'm not convinced, yet, that I'll be satisfied with where S8 ends up,
of course... :). Some bits are clearly going to come out right (I'm
pretty certain Buffy is going to die, for real, no backsies) but it's
not going to be easy to get from the 'can stand up' theme of 'Chosen' to
Buffy and the others abandoning all their power as is required for
'Fray'.)
Ben
Ben Morrow
Quoth grinningdemon <grinni...@austin.rr.com>:
>
> That said, many of these newsgroups are drying up now...not just this
> group...many fans have abandoned these groups for other online forums.
Usenet is dying, film at 11.
Ben
grinningdemon
wrote:
>
I doubt Joss would kill of Buffy yet again...and, unless something has
changed when I wasn't paying attention, there is also a Season 9 comic
in the works.
Fallen
I totally disagree, it's both better and easier to follow because I can
tell who people are almost every time (they do have the advantage of
being more recognisable though).
Buffy has had the totally pointless 'Buffy is a lesbian for 5 minutes
angle' and now seemingly a Buffy/Xander/Dawn triangle (Which btw I
didn't even get until I checked a review of the comic because Dawn could
have been anyone due to the artwork), soap opera rubbish. It hasn't even
been that funny, which doesn't surprise me after Dollhouse and reading
joss Whedon's oh so hilarious open letter about Terminator. The man
seems to have forgotten what the word funny means.
Angel on the other hand has been quite funny, the hell angle dragged on
a bit too long but since they got back Spike and Angel have been just as
godo together as in the series.
The only good bit I can remember that has happened in the Buffy comic at
all was how awesome Dracula was.
Fallen.
grinningdemon
wrote:
To each his own...I'll agree that Georges Jeanty has done a great job
of distinguishing all the characters in the series but I still think
it is the much stronger book...and, even when you can't tell who is
who from the art (which isn't nearly as often as you make it seem), it
is generally pretty easy to tell from the story and dialogue (unless
it's a background character).
>Buffy has had the totally pointless 'Buffy is a lesbian for 5 minutes
>angle' and now seemingly a Buffy/Xander/Dawn triangle (Which btw I
>didn't even get until I checked a review of the comic because Dawn could
>have been anyone due to the artwork), soap opera rubbish. It hasn't even
>been that funny, which doesn't surprise me after Dollhouse and reading
>joss Whedon's oh so hilarious open letter about Terminator. The man
>seems to have forgotten what the word funny means.
I could have done without the Buffy lesbian stuff too (although the
scene where everyone walked in on them was hilarious) but, other than
that and Harmony's reality show, I've enjoyed the series all the way
through...and even the lesbian arc had some great stuff with Xander
and Dracula...and that "soap opera rubbish" has been a huge part of
Buffy since Season 1 in case you've forgotten...it's usually a pretty
big part of Angel too...except now the only love story in that book is
between Angel and Spike.
>Angel on the other hand has been quite funny, the hell angle dragged on
>a bit too long but since they got back Spike and Angel have been just as
>godo together as in the series.
Have you read the latest arc about Angel and Spike at a fan
convention? It was just pathetic...and the arc about the animals
being turned into people wasn't much better...the art on the series
has never risen above mediocre and I don't really have a lot of hope
for Willingham's upcoming run...he may do well in this genre (Fables
is awesome) but I really doubt he'll be able to master the
characterization.
>The only good bit I can remember that has happened in the Buffy comic at
>all was how awesome Dracula was.
It hasn't been perfect but there's been a lot to like...the first arc
establishing the new status quo was fantastic...as was the BKV Faith
arc that followed...I loved Dawn's transformations (even if the wrap
up on that was somewhat disappointing)...and it was great to see Fray
again...surprisingly, I even liked the Jeph Loeb issue covering ideas
from the aborted animated series (it was a nice throwback and lighter
change of pace from everything else that was going on)...I'm a little
iffy on the lastest arc but I am interested to see where the love
triangle goes and to see what happens with Buffy's new powers.
Morgoth's Curse
<grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>The beauty of restricting a story to single format is that no
>>adjustment is necessary. You buy the book and you have the whole
>>story. You buy the DVD series and you have the whole story. You own
>>the movie trilogy and you have the whole story. There is no need to
>>switch between different formats to follow a single story. Increasing
>>complexity diminishes the number of people who can actually enjoy the
>>story--just compare the number of posters now with the number who
>>posted while Buffy was a television series.
>>
>>Morgoth's Curse
>
>The show has been off the air for several years now and there is
>probably a significant number of fans who aren't even aware of the
>comic or at least aren't aware that it is canon...and, of course,
>there are fans like yourself that are unwilling to crossover.
Thank you for proving my point. I think that one important factor is
that it is much easier to identify with actors on a television screen
than it is to identify with the one-dimensional images of a paper
comic book. Tens of millions of people who would never shell out $4.95
for a comic book willingly spent ten dollars to see the Spiderman and
Batman movies.
>That said, many of these newsgroups are drying up now...not just this
>group...many fans have abandoned these groups for other online forums.
It was bound to happen sooner or later. The decline of literacy
doomed the Usenet even before the emergence of Facebook and
interactive media.
Fallen
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:24:20 -0600, grinningdemon
> <grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>That said, many of these newsgroups are drying up now...not just this
>>group...many fans have abandoned these groups for other online forums.
>
>
> It was bound to happen sooner or later. The decline of literacy
> doomed the Usenet even before the emergence of Facebook and
> interactive media.
>
The 'decline of literacy'? When did that happen? In what period
specifically was there a higher rate of literacy?
Fallen.
Morgoth's Curse
wrote:
There is an enormous difference between being able to read and
choosing to read. My nephews (who are typical of their generation)
_can_ read, but never do except for brief text messages and they
certainly do not write letters or even lengthy e-mails. As video,
speech recognition and data storage technology continues to improve,
fewer and fewer people will write. In fact, assuming that
civilization actually survives that long, I predict that by the year
2075 the ability to write will be as quaint and as rare as calligraphy
is now. Why bother actually writing when you can record the same
message with much less time and effort? (They don't even bother to
teach the multiplication tables in schools anymore because everyone
has a calculator.)
grinningdemon
<morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:24:20 -0600, grinningdemon
><grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>>The beauty of restricting a story to single format is that no
>>>adjustment is necessary. You buy the book and you have the whole
>>>story. You buy the DVD series and you have the whole story. You own
>>>the movie trilogy and you have the whole story. There is no need to
>>>switch between different formats to follow a single story. Increasing
>>>complexity diminishes the number of people who can actually enjoy the
>>>story--just compare the number of posters now with the number who
>>>posted while Buffy was a television series.
>>>
>>>Morgoth's Curse
>>
>>The show has been off the air for several years now and there is
>>probably a significant number of fans who aren't even aware of the
>>comic or at least aren't aware that it is canon...and, of course,
>>there are fans like yourself that are unwilling to crossover.
>
>Thank you for proving my point.
I'm not sure how admitting that many fans aren't aware of the comic
proves your point...and I already said that there were those like
yourself unwilling to crossover.
I think that one important factor is
>that it is much easier to identify with actors on a television screen
>than it is to identify with the one-dimensional images of a paper
>comic book. Tens of millions of people who would never shell out $4.95
>for a comic book willingly spent ten dollars to see the Spiderman and
>Batman movies.
That's not quite the same thing...the Spiderman and Batman movies were
stand alone films designed to appeal to the broadest audience possible
that were only based on comic characters...they weren't continued from
another medium...in Buffy's case, the story has continued from the
show in the comics...the comic is really only meant to appeal to Buffy
fans.
David Milligan
"Morgoth's Curse" <morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ashlg5t6an7a0oi2u...@4ax.com...
And I hear they have stopped teaching cursive writing because of
computers (and texting). And, apparently, also spelling.
Michael Ikeda
news:ashlg5t6an7a0oi2u...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:10:24 +0000, Fallen <fal...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Morgoth's Curse wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:24:20 -0600, grinningdemon
>>> <grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>>>>That said, many of these newsgroups are drying up now...not
>>>>just this group...many fans have abandoned these groups for
>>>>other online forums.
>>>
>>>
>>> It was bound to happen sooner or later. The decline of
>>> literacy doomed the Usenet even before the emergence of
>>> Facebook and interactive media.
>>>
>>
>>The 'decline of literacy'? When did that happen? In what period
>>specifically was there a higher rate of literacy?
>>
>>Fallen.
>
> There is an enormous difference between being able to read and
> choosing to read.
And the time when a substantially higher proportion of the population
CHOSE to read was?
--
Michael Ikeda mmi...@erols.com
"Telling a statistician not to use sampling is like telling an
astronomer they can't say there is a moon and stars"
Lynne Billard, past president American Statistical Association