Why Alias is Better than Buffy
Roger Henshaw
has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
much better that they can come up with more original material?
Also, Alias doesn't do that tired old cliche where the man NEVER
gets the girl. They had the season of sexual tension then were
allowed to get it on. Maybe not getting the girl worked for the
first one or two shows that tried that, but every show has overplayed
that (X-Files, etc).
Also, Alias doesn't have sissy-boy Xander-like characters.
Also, the lead actress has NO qualms about appearing in
lingerie, bikinis and other assundries. Of couse, Jennifer
Garner doesn't suffer from bulimia, either.
And Jennifer could wipe the floor with Buffy.
Yes, indeed. BTVS has many sucky qualities.
slauerrr
"Roger Henshaw" <bb...@bbfan.net> wrote in message
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Wrong newsgroup. I believe you were looking for the ever so popular
alt.tv.alias.
Jake
wrote:
Of couse, Jennifer
>Garner doesn't suffer from bulimia, either.
>
It's anorexia, ass(troll).
t r a c y
alias where they dressed garner up as a giesha...? that was the single most
frightening thing i've ever seen in my life. if it comes to light that
garner is a she-male i won't be in the least bit surprised.
t r a c y
http://katgyrl.com
Jake
>On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:44:30 -0500, Jake wrote
>(in message <53fl5vc1ocdp8dddk...@4ax.com>):
>She does not suffer from either.
>
>Go away.
I was joking.
Beth
"t r a c y" <total...@ddress.com> wrote in message
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SMG are great in their roles. Just because someone had to write a stupid
message doesn't mean we have to drop down to that person's level. They are
both good shows and both phenomenal actresses.
Beth
alphakitten
Roger Henshaw wrote:
> Alias has almost NO repeats (except of course in the summer). Buffy
> has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
> much better that they can come up with more original material?
Because their respective networks schedule them differently!?
Both shows have 22 episodes a season. What the hell are you wanking about?
>
> Also, Alias doesn't do that tired old cliche where the man NEVER
> gets the girl.
What BtVS man NEVER got which girl?
~Angel
BTR1701
<bb...@bbfan.net> wrote:
> Alias has almost NO repeats (except of course in the summer). Buffy
> has repeats all the time. Why is that?
You must not have been paying attention. I've seen plenty of Alias
repeats. And when they're not repeating, they just don't put the show on
at all. Like the week before last when they showed "The Music Man"
instead of Alias.
DarkMagic
Jennifer Garner is the least credible heroine on the planet. She looks like
a strong wind would blow her over or snap her in two, yet she is routinely
shown taking on men twice her size. At least Buffy has mystical superpowers
to explain that sort of garbage.
ME doesn't write it.
I've enjoyed an episode or two of Alias, don't get me wrong. But, I
haven't watched it at all this season so obviously it hasn't captured my
interest the way Buffy has.
--
Shannon
Cordelia: "Angel is only happy when he's fighting evil. Let's drum up a
little!"
Doyle: "I don't know why we're looking for evil when we got you here."
>
>
>
>
-Andy-
BTR1701 <BTR...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Of course, there's also the fact that they ALSO repeat Alias
over on the "Family Channel"... as filler.... since it couldn't possibly
be considered "family fare"...
The Zany Rogue
>at least buffy doesn't look like a man in drag. did you see that ep of
>alias where they dressed garner up as a giesha...? that was the single most
>frightening thing i've ever seen in my life. if it comes to light that
>garner is a she-male i won't be in the least bit surprised.
>
>t r a c y
>http://katgyrl.com
>
Hey, I understand being upset and all, but, I mean really........she male?
forge
wrote:
>Also, the lead actress has NO qualms about appearing in
>lingerie, bikinis and other assundries.
This is not a necessity for me to enjoy a show; however Sarah's
steadfast refusal to wear even so much as a lowcut top since the
beginning of Season 4 is fueling my disdain for her as a television
star.
t r a c y
"Beth" <Bet...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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going on and that geisha get up really drew attn to the fact that she's not
terribly feminine. normally i'd never shoot my mouth off like
that -especially about something as superficial as an actor's looks- but i
was in a mood and his silly post got the better of me. tho' i have to admit
it was kind of fun to just unthinkingly stoop for a moment, heh.
forge
<total...@ddress.com> wrote:
>at least buffy doesn't look like a man in drag. did you see that ep of
>alias where they dressed garner up as a giesha...? that was the single most
>frightening thing i've ever seen in my life. if it comes to light that
>garner is a she-male i won't be in the least bit surprised.
If she is I'm not sure I care; she's got the cutest figure of just
about anyone on television right now.
Stacey
Stacey
David Johnston
wrote:
>Alias has almost NO repeats (except of course in the summer). Buffy
>has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
>much better that they can come up with more original material?
>
>Also, Alias doesn't do that tired old cliche where the man NEVER
>gets the girl.
That's not a point in Alias's favour.
>Also, Alias doesn't have sissy-boy Xander-like characters.
Yeah. That Marshall. What a macho man of action he is.
forge
wrote:
>Is that why she's had her lips done so she would look more feminine?
Proof, please.
BTR1701
rgo...@telusplanet.net (David Johnston) wrote:
Incidentally, the guy who plays Marshall also played Dreg, one of
Glory's minions.
Rob Myers
> Yes, indeed. BTVS has many sucky qualities.
Yup, preaching to the choir here. Thing is, no one cares about your
opinion since you're just like one of those x-box flamers who attack
other similar products. What are you hoping? That your lightweight
insults are going to convert people into Alias fans?
If you think Buffy fans watch to see SMG in sexy clothes you're missing
the point. That's only true of Marsters's drooling fangirls.
--
rob m at rob myers dot net
CindyLover
> Alias has almost NO repeats (except of course in the summer). Buffy
> has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
> much better that they can come up with more original material?
"Alias" has only been on the air for two years, whereas "Buffy the
Vampire Slayer" is in its seventh season. "Alias" will get plenty of
repeats in the future when (or if) it builds up more than 100
episodes.
CindyLover
CindyLover
> >alias where they dressed garner up as a giesha...? that was the single most
> >frightening thing i've ever seen in my life. if it comes to light that
> >garner is a she-male i won't be in the least bit surprised.
>
> If she is I'm not sure I care; she's got the cutest figure of just
> about anyone on television right now.
I admit I do find Jennifer Garner more attractive than Sarah Michelle
Gellar; but then again it's not like SMG is the prettiest person on
her own show.
CindyLover
Matrriix
Alias the first year and I've seen every episode so far this season. I can't
wait for the DVD set in september.
As for it being better then Buffy....if you compare the two shows RIGHT NOW,
then most definitely. Alias is a much better written show with better acting.
But, even alias' best episodes can't compare with Buffy at it's prime.
-Neo
NUN...@webtv.net
shows but with that i FF alias untill shes half naked and she gets half
naked on almost every one but with buffy i watch the whole show, all i
know is that im going to see DAREDEVIL
David Samuel Barr
They did that only for the first season; they're not doing it any more.
Ken
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BTR, excuse me, but when they preempt shows instead of showing reruns, isn't
that a sign of a LACK of confidence by the network (e.g., preempting shows
that would air opposite the Super Bowl, the Grammies, Oscars, etc.) ?
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken
"Rob Myers" <ro...@robmyers.removethisspamblocker.net> wrote in message
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Yeah! Buffy stopped wearing gratuitously sexy clothes 4 years ago!
>
> --
> rob m at rob myers dot net
-- Ken from Chicago
P.S. Spike wears sexy clothes? Usually it's just pants and a shirt (that is
when he's wearing a shirt, or pants).
higgy
> Alias has almost NO repeats (except of course in the summer). Buffy
> has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
> much better that they can come up with more original material?
Are you talking repeated plot-lines or just TV stations repeating the
show a lot?
> Also, Alias doesn't do that tired old cliche where the man NEVER
> gets the girl. They had the season of sexual tension then were
> allowed to get it on. Maybe not getting the girl worked for the
> first one or two shows that tried that, but every show has overplayed
> that (X-Files, etc).
I haven't seen enough to know for sure, but it seemed to me like they
killed off her partner in episode 1 and then just trotted in an endless
stream of potentials, that clearly liked her, but never acted on it.
> Also, Alias doesn't have sissy-boy Xander-like characters.
No, they all tend to be dreadfully dull male-model types. Kinda like a
lot of the "love interests" that were introduced in Ally McBeal over the
years.
> Also, the lead actress has NO qualms about appearing in
> lingerie, bikinis and other assundries.
Mmmm... that must be why the female members of my household hated the
show because it seemed like the producers where using her as their very
own Barbie doll.
> Of couse, Jennifer
> Garner doesn't suffer from bulimia, either.
Are you sure? She looks a little straggly to me.
> And Jennifer could wipe the floor with Buffy.
Jennifer is a bloody wimp! That weak voice and constant tearful
expression. I couldn't believe it when I saw a trailer for DareDevil and
she was doing the same routine - isn't she supposed to be *bad* in that?
I'm sure some guys get off her "interpretation" of tough, but it seems
more like a cliched "poor little girl can't get past her emotions" thing
to me.
> Yes, indeed. BTVS has many sucky qualities.
Oh, I agree. I don't have anywhere near the affection for Buffy that I
used to, but... Alias bored the sh#t out of me! I really wanted to like
it, too, but couldn't keep watching after about 6 eps. It's worse than
Roswell. The action scenes are OK(ish) but they only usually occupy the
first and last couple of minutes. In the middle it's just pure Dawson's
Creek dribble about some girl who always looks like she's about to cry
because she thinks her daddy doesn't love her (or something).
Dave.
forge
<kwicker_era...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> You must not have been paying attention. I've seen plenty of Alias
>> repeats. And when they're not repeating, they just don't put the show on
>> at all. Like the week before last when they showed "The Music Man"
>> instead of Alias.
>
>BTR, excuse me, but when they preempt shows instead of showing reruns, isn't
>that a sign of a LACK of confidence by the network (e.g., preempting shows
>that would air opposite the Super Bowl, the Grammies, Oscars, etc.) ?
Television executives are all stoned morons.
John
> has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
> much better that they can come up with more original material?
>
> gets the girl. They had the season of sexual tension then were
> allowed to get it on. Maybe not getting the girl worked for the
> first one or two shows that tried that, but every show has overplayed
> that (X-Files, etc).
>
>
>
>
The 2 shows have the same number of episodes per season. So I'm not
sure where you're getting the "Buffy has repeats all the time".
But more importantly, comparing Alias and Buffy is ridiculous. Alias
is fun, enjoyable fluff. Buffy has far more depth. It's like comparing
a Bud Lite to a rare vintage wine that needs to be savored.
Arnold Kim
"Rob Myers" <ro...@robmyers.removethisspamblocker.net> wrote in message
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I didn't know Marsters's drooling fangirls swung that way.
Arnold Kim
Harry the Horse
Hunter
bb...@bbfan.net says...
> Alias has almost NO repeats (except of course in the summer). Buffy
> has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
> much better that they can come up with more original material?
Idiot, it is about scheduling, plus if you were to compare both will
have about 22 or 23 episodes this season.
>
> Also, Alias doesn't do that tired old cliche where the man NEVER
> gets the girl. They had the season of sexual tension then were
> allowed to get it on. Maybe not getting the girl worked for the
> first one or two shows that tried that, but every show has overplayed
> that (X-Files, etc).
What are you talking about? Angel got the girl, Riley got the girl,
Spike got the girl, even that mistake between Angel and Riley got the
girl.
>
> Also, Alias doesn't have sissy-boy Xander-like characters.
Oh, yeah? What about her journalist friend? How about Big Head?
>
> Also, the lead actress has NO qualms about appearing in
> lingerie, bikinis and other assundries. Of couse, Jennifer
> Garner doesn't suffer from bulimia, either.
>
> And Jennifer could wipe the floor with Buffy.
If she had super strength or Buffy strength was reduced to normal
levels I think so.
>
> Yes, indeed. BTVS has many sucky qualities.
>
You are either a troll who never watched Buffy or an idiot who never
paid attention.
--
----->Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Hunter
total...@ddress.com says...
> > has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
> > much better that they can come up with more original material?
> >
> > gets the girl. They had the season of sexual tension then were
> > allowed to get it on. Maybe not getting the girl worked for the
> > first one or two shows that tried that, but every show has overplayed
> > that (X-Files, etc).
> >
> >
> > lingerie, bikinis and other assundries. Of couse, Jennifer
> > Garner doesn't suffer from bulimia, either.
> >
> > And Jennifer could wipe the floor with Buffy.
> >
> >
> >
> alias where they dressed garner up as a giesha...? that was the single most
> frightening thing i've ever seen in my life. if it comes to light that
> garner is a she-male i won't be in the least bit surprised.
>
Nah, Ms Garner is a beautiful woman. She is not the cutesy type I
usually go for like a Willow or Dawn or Cordelia or Jessica Alba, but
she is very attractive to me. But yes, the giesha get up was not
flattering. Perhaps the make up is not at all attractive to most
caucasian women. I am sure the make up is ment to high light the
rounded features of an asian woman, not a westerner with a square jaw
and high check bones.
Hunter
bak...@spamsucks.bellsouth.net says...
Well, she does not have much of a cleavage anymore. When she was about
21 years old when the show started, she had these nice perky breast,
but now they have prematurely fallen like how some men are prematurely
bald at 26 or something.
Hunter
bak...@spamsucks.bellsouth.net says...
I did not like it at first, she was just too thin in both the face and
body. But after she started buffing up (no pun intended) for her role
in "DareDevil", putting on some muscle and weight and her face filled
out a bit, she when up on my cuteness scale. Unfortunately, she may be
reverting back to her early season one figure.
Hunter
popp...@earthlink.net says...
She has great lips, but if she did have them done at least she did not
go a bit over board like Laura Flynn Boyle on "the practice"; although
Laura does look tons better with them.
Hunter
rgo...@telusplanet.net says...
That's his name! I keep forgetting the guys names on that show. He
does have Xander-esque bravery, joking in the face of danger, standing
up under torture....
Hunter
BTR...@ix.netcom.com says...
Hunter
Cindylo...@aol.com says...
Like I said, I like cute girls, so I take season 1 and season 2 Buffy
over Season 2 Sydney and diffinately season 1 Sydney.
Hunter
higgys...@hotmail.com says...
> Roger Henshaw wrote:
>
> > Alias has almost NO repeats (except of course in the summer). Buffy
> > has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
> > much better that they can come up with more original material?
>
> Are you talking repeated plot-lines or just TV stations repeating the
> show a lot?
>
> > Also, Alias doesn't do that tired old cliche where the man NEVER
> > gets the girl. They had the season of sexual tension then were
> > allowed to get it on. Maybe not getting the girl worked for the
> > first one or two shows that tried that, but every show has overplayed
> > that (X-Files, etc).
>
> I haven't seen enough to know for sure, but it seemed to me like they
> killed off her partner in episode 1 and then just trotted in an endless
> stream of potentials, that clearly liked her, but never acted on it.
I have to say you are out of it. She is in a full blown affair with
her handler now.
>
> > Also, Alias doesn't have sissy-boy Xander-like characters.
>
> No, they all tend to be dreadfully dull male-model types. Kinda like a
> lot of the "love interests" that were introduced in Ally McBeal over the
> years.
>
> > Also, the lead actress has NO qualms about appearing in
> > lingerie, bikinis and other assundries.
>
> Mmmm... that must be why the female members of my household hated the
> show because it seemed like the producers where using her as their very
> own Barbie doll.
>
> > Of couse, Jennifer
> > Garner doesn't suffer from bulimia, either.
>
> Are you sure? She looks a little straggly to me.
Gardner was pumped up for awhile for her DD role, but alas she does
seem to be losing the weight.
>
> > And Jennifer could wipe the floor with Buffy.
>
> Jennifer is a bloody wimp! That weak voice and constant tearful
> expression. I couldn't believe it when I saw a trailer for DareDevil and
> she was doing the same routine - isn't she supposed to be *bad* in that?
In the first season when she was a fairly new agent (unwittingly for
SD6) but not now. I do get the feeling that if the two were of equal
strength Sydney could beat up Buffy.
>
> I'm sure some guys get off her "interpretation" of tough, but it seems
> more like a cliched "poor little girl can't get past her emotions" thing
> to me.
Having been watching lately.
>
> > Yes, indeed. BTVS has many sucky qualities.
>
> Oh, I agree. I don't have anywhere near the affection for Buffy that I
> used to, but... Alias bored the sh#t out of me! I really wanted to like
> it, too, but couldn't keep watching after about 6 eps. It's worse than
> Roswell. The action scenes are OK(ish) but they only usually occupy the
> first and last couple of minutes. In the middle it's just pure Dawson's
> Creek dribble about some girl who always looks like she's about to cry
> because she thinks her daddy doesn't love her (or something).
>
>
> Dave.
>
Again, you haven't seen the character growth.
Matrriix
What exactly were you on when you saw this trailer?
How is her jumping around in leather with knives her "weak voice and tearful
expression"?
Don't lash out just because the original poster made some stupid points, it
makes you look just as bad.
-Neo
Hunter
kwicker_era...@ameritech.net says...
No, it is called survival. Why waste a new episode when you know
everyone is going to be watching the Grammies, Oscars, Super Bowl,
World Series? I believe "Angel" was a repeat on SuperBowl Sunday.
The "Alias" episode that aired directly after the 'Bowl had a MAJOR
plot revision that was action packed to introduce it to new viewers.
This past sunday Fox pre-empted it entire sunday line up including new
episodes of "The Simpsons" and "Malcohm in the Middle" and aired The
X-Men. NBC did the same with its pre-empting of "Law & Order: Criminal
Intent" and "Boomtown" and counter programed with a TV-movie.
Some nights you concede to the enemy.
Hunter
kwicker_era...@ameritech.net says...
>
> "Rob Myers" <ro...@robmyers.removethisspamblocker.net> wrote in message
> news:250220030220003809%ro...@robmyers.removethisspamblocker.net...
> > In article <6obl5v82rhjrr6f81...@4ax.com>, Roger Henshaw
> > <bb...@bbfan.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, indeed. BTVS has many sucky qualities.
> >
> > Yup, preaching to the choir here. Thing is, no one cares about your
> > opinion since you're just like one of those x-box flamers who attack
> > other similar products. What are you hoping? That your lightweight
> > insults are going to convert people into Alias fans?
> >
> > If you think Buffy fans watch to see SMG in sexy clothes you're missing
> > the point. That's only true of Marsters's drooling fangirls.
>
> Yeah! Buffy stopped wearing gratuitously sexy clothes 4 years ago!
>
-----
Just about when her breast fell. BTW in some of the publicity shots of
"Storyteller" I have seen Dawn is wearing a tight fitting top with a
plunging v-neck. Purple in color IIRC. This is a sign from ME that she
has grown up. They did the same with Willow about two years ago when
she ditched her gurrr-animal clothes.
George Avalos
> much better that they can come up with more original material?
This statement alone calls into question your ability to string
together two coherent thoughts.
Did you ever try to count the number of new episodes and broadcast
hours the two shows film and air? Go to www.tvtome.com to verify this:
During the 2001-2002 season, its first, Alias filmed and broadcast 22
new episodes, totaling 22 hours.
During the same TV season, BTVS:S6 filmed 22 hours and 10 minutes,
shown as 22 episodes. Wow! Buffy actually had *more* broadcast hours
than Alias!
BTVS has 22 episodes scheduled for this season. Alias, so far, has 17
on the schedule. (The 17th episode of Alias:S2, the last one listed by
TV Tome, is due to air on March 2.)
I like both shows, BTW. Obviously, your post proves that not all of
the Alias fans are capable of appreciating its (first-season)
complexities. Have fun in your sand box and keep your eyes on the bra
straps.
-George
George Avalos
> Alias has almost NO repeats (except of course in the summer). Buffy
> has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
> much better that they can come up with more original material?
Roger Henshaw <bb...@bbfan.net> wrote in message news:<6obl5v82rhjrr6f81...@4ax.com>...
> Alias has almost NO repeats (except of course in the summer). Buffy
> has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
> much better that they can come up with more original material?
BTW, one possible correction to my original post. I now seem to recall
that Alias had a 90-minute series opener. If so, that would mean 22
hrs., 30 minutes for Alias and 22 hours, 10 minutes for BTVS. But that
changes nothing else. Both shows had 22 episodes.
Either way, I stand by this:
*****
This statement alone calls into question your ability to string
together two coherent thoughts.
Did you ever try to count the number of new episodes the two shows
film and air? Go to www.tvtome.com to verify this:
During the 2001-2002 season, its first, Alias filmed and broadcast 22
new episodes.
During the same TV season, BTVS:S6 filmed 22 episodes!
than Alias!
BTVS has 22 episodes scheduled for this season. Alias, so far, has 17
on the schedule. (The 17th episode of Alias:S2, the last one listed by
TV Tome, is due to air on March 2.)
I like both shows, BTW. Obviously, your post proves that not all of
the Alias fans are capable of appreciating its (first-season)
complexities. Have fun in your sand box and keep your eyes on the bra
straps.
*****
-George
David Johnston
>> Yes, indeed. BTVS has many sucky qualities.
>
>The 2 shows have the same number of episodes per season. So I'm not
>sure where you're getting the "Buffy has repeats all the time".
Alias is more frequently preempted. Thus they do actually end up
showing more repeats on Buffy.
NightBaron
Trolling ?
> Alias has almost NO repeats (except of course in the summer). Buffy
> has repeats all the time. Why is that? Are the writers of Alias so
> much better that they can come up with more original material?
Both have 22 episodes in a season
> Also, Alias doesn't do that tired old cliche where the man NEVER
> gets the girl. They had the season of sexual tension then were
> allowed to get it on. Maybe not getting the girl worked for the
> first one or two shows that tried that, but every show has overplayed
> that (X-Files, etc).
What man in Buffy never gets the girl ? Guys and girls get together
all the time in Buffy and break up.
> Also, Alias doesn't have sissy-boy Xander-like characters.
You obviously don't know Xander very well.
> Also, the lead actress has NO qualms about appearing in
> lingerie, bikinis and other assundries. Of couse, Jennifer
> Garner doesn't suffer from bulimia, either.
From this perspective, Jerry Spring must be the best show on
television.
> And Jennifer could wipe the floor with Buffy.
Jennifer is an actress and Buffy is a vampire slayer. I'm thinking
Buffy would win.
> Yes, indeed. BTVS has many sucky qualities.
Get back to us when you have valid ones.
BTR1701
buffh...@my-deja.com (Hunter) wrote:
> Just about when her breast fell. BTW in some of the publicity shots of
> "Storyteller" I have seen Dawn is wearing a tight fitting top with a
> plunging v-neck. Purple in color IIRC. This is a sign from ME that she
> has grown up. They did the same with Willow about two years ago when
> she ditched her gurrr-animal clothes.
Michelle really is growing into a stunning woman. It's a good thing this
is the show's last year or Gellar might punt her the way she did
Charisma.
Can't have anyone looking better than the lead, now can we? ;-)
Ken
"Hunter" <buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> In article <RUI6a.722$PK3....@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>,
> kwicker_era...@ameritech.net says...
> >
> > "BTR1701" <BTR...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:BTR1702-49D30D...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> > > In article <6obl5v82rhjrr6f81...@4ax.com>, Roger Henshaw
> > > <bb...@bbfan.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alias has almost NO repeats (except of course in the summer). Buffy
> > > > has repeats all the time. Why is that?
> > >
> > > You must not have been paying attention. I've seen plenty of Alias
> > > repeats. And when they're not repeating, they just don't put the show
on
> > > at all. Like the week before last when they showed "The Music Man"
> > > instead of Alias.
> >
> > BTR, excuse me, but when they preempt shows instead of showing reruns,
isn't
> > that a sign of a LACK of confidence by the network (e.g., preempting
shows
> > that would air opposite the Super Bowl, the Grammies, Oscars, etc.) ?
> >
> > -- Ken from Chicago
> >
> >
> >
> ---
> No, it is called survival. Why waste a new episode when you know
> everyone is going to be watching the Grammies, Oscars, Super Bowl,
HBO air the season finale of THE SOPRANOS opposite the Emmies or Golden
Globes or some such awards a few months back.
> World Series? I believe "Angel" was a repeat on SuperBowl Sunday.
Ah, but it wasn't preempted. Whoa, by "preemption" I mean NOT showing an
episode--first run or rerun.
> The "Alias" episode that aired directly after the 'Bowl had a MAJOR
> plot revision that was action packed to introduce it to new viewers.
> This past sunday Fox pre-empted it entire sunday line up including new
> episodes of "The Simpsons" and "Malcohm in the Middle" and aired The
> X-Men. NBC did the same with its pre-empting of "Law & Order: Criminal
> Intent" and "Boomtown" and counter programed with a TV-movie.
>
> Some nights you concede to the enemy.
Or, knowing that they have their own awards, the Big Three (Four) by
unwritten consensus agree not to challenge each other--too much--on major
awards (e.g., Oscars, Emmies, Grammies, Tonies, Golden Globes, American
Music Awards, Country Music Awards, American Country Awards).
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken
> In article <J_I6a.723$PK3....@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>,
> kwicker_era...@ameritech.net says...
> >
> > "Rob Myers" <ro...@robmyers.removethisspamblocker.net> wrote in message
> > news:250220030220003809%ro...@robmyers.removethisspamblocker.net...
> > > In article <6obl5v82rhjrr6f81...@4ax.com>, Roger Henshaw
> > > <bb...@bbfan.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, indeed. BTVS has many sucky qualities.
> > >
> > > Yup, preaching to the choir here. Thing is, no one cares about your
> > > opinion since you're just like one of those x-box flamers who attack
> > > other similar products. What are you hoping? That your lightweight
> > > insults are going to convert people into Alias fans?
> > >
> > > If you think Buffy fans watch to see SMG in sexy clothes you're
missing
> > > the point. That's only true of Marsters's drooling fangirls.
> >
> > Yeah! Buffy stopped wearing gratuitously sexy clothes 4 years ago!
> > -- Ken from Chicago
> >
>
> -----
> Just about when her breast fell. BTW in some of the publicity shots of
High School Buffy was less about the plunging necklines than the high
hemlines.
> "Storyteller" I have seen Dawn is wearing a tight fitting top with a
> plunging v-neck. Purple in color IIRC. This is a sign from ME that she
> has grown up. They did the same with Willow about two years ago when
> she ditched her gurrr-animal clothes.
> ----->Hunter
Dawn was more ... provocatively ... dressed months ago, in "Him".
-- Ken from Chicago
PJ Browning
<kwicker_era...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> HBO air the season finale of THE SOPRANOS opposite the Emmies or Golden
> Globes or some such awards a few months back.
the finale of the Sopranos was Dec 8th.
I'm trying to recall what award show was that night. The GG is in
January, Emmys were in September and the Grammys were just a couple of
night ago. The only other one I could think of was the Tonys, but
that's in the summer.
anyone remember which one it was.
> Or, knowing that they have their own awards, the Big Three (Four) by
> unwritten consensus agree not to challenge each other--too much--on major
> awards (e.g., Oscars, Emmies, Grammies, Tonies, Golden Globes, American
> Music Awards, Country Music Awards, American Country Awards).
cable stations play by different rules than the Big Three/Four since
they aren't stuck on ad money and ratings for their funds. lucky dogs
Hunter
kwicker_era...@ameritech.net says...
Cable and satellite tv operate on a different business model.
>
> > World Series? I believe "Angel" was a repeat on SuperBowl Sunday.
>
> Ah, but it wasn't preempted. Whoa, by "preemption" I mean NOT showing an
> episode--first run or rerun.
Point is they didn't waste a new episode.
>
> > The "Alias" episode that aired directly after the 'Bowl had a MAJOR
> > plot revision that was action packed to introduce it to new viewers.
> > This past sunday Fox pre-empted it entire sunday line up including new
> > episodes of "The Simpsons" and "Malcohm in the Middle" and aired The
> > X-Men. NBC did the same with its pre-empting of "Law & Order: Criminal
> > Intent" and "Boomtown" and counter programed with a TV-movie.
> >
> > Some nights you concede to the enemy.
>
> Or, knowing that they have their own awards, the Big Three (Four) by
> unwritten consensus agree not to challenge each other--too much--on major
> awards (e.g., Oscars, Emmies, Grammies, Tonies, Golden Globes, American
> Music Awards, Country Music Awards, American Country Awards).
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
>
Too much of a conspiracy theory. But if true then if you are right
then it is not so much a lack of confidence as a deal between the
networks.
Hunter
kwicker_era...@ameritech.net says...
Yes, but she didn't show much cleavage IIRC; in "Showtime" Andrew was
videotaping down her shirt! :-) To bad he doesn't appreciate it.
--
Hunter
BTR...@ix.netcom.com says...
Now that Faith is seems to be out of the running for SMG's successor.
I hope a "Dawn the Vampire Slayer" scenerio can be worked out. Yes, I
know that Willow's potential finder spell did not indicate Dawn and
the Harbingers ignored her and went after Amanda (side note: not to be
cruel but I have to say she is the ugliest of the SiTs. I don't go for
heads that look like it was run over by a steamroller. And she is as
thin as Winifred on "Angel", perhaps thinner taking porportion into
account). But I am sure some halfway decent scenerio can be written
making her a potential again. I think she would make a fine Slayer.
The way she didn't hesitate to help Amanda proves that.
And yes, she is going to be stunning. I hope she doesn't loose too
much more baby fat in her face (Cordelia looks great with it).
--
Ken
But it's a crucial difference. One of the main downfalls for ER, aside
pathetic security repeatedly letting in guns into the place, was NBC
repeatedly not showing new eps outside of sweeps--worse, NBC kept showing
"best of" ER eps from previous seasons back (e.g., "Love's Labors Lost",
"Hell or High Water", etc.) so if you missed an ep of the current season, it
would be half a year or more before even remotely having a chance of
catching up of the CURRENT season.
> > > The "Alias" episode that aired directly after the 'Bowl had a MAJOR
> > > plot revision that was action packed to introduce it to new viewers.
> > > This past sunday Fox pre-empted it entire sunday line up including new
> > > episodes of "The Simpsons" and "Malcohm in the Middle" and aired The
> > > X-Men. NBC did the same with its pre-empting of "Law & Order: Criminal
> > > Intent" and "Boomtown" and counter programed with a TV-movie.
> > >
> > > Some nights you concede to the enemy.
> >
> > Or, knowing that they have their own awards, the Big Three (Four) by
> > unwritten consensus agree not to challenge each other--too much--on
major
> > awards (e.g., Oscars, Emmies, Grammies, Tonies, Golden Globes, American
> > Music Awards, Country Music Awards, American Country Awards).
> >
> > -- Ken from Chicago
> >
> ----
> Too much of a conspiracy theory. But if true then if you are right
> then it is not so much a lack of confidence as a deal between the
> networks.
Touche.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken
Define "better".
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken
> In article <BTR1702-6C005B...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
> BTR...@ix.netcom.com says...
> > In article <MPG.18c58cef8...@news.earthlink.net>,
> > buffh...@my-deja.com (Hunter) wrote:
> >
> > > Just about when her breast fell. BTW in some of the publicity shots of
> > > "Storyteller" I have seen Dawn is wearing a tight fitting top with a
> > > plunging v-neck. Purple in color IIRC. This is a sign from ME that she
> > > has grown up. They did the same with Willow about two years ago when
> > > she ditched her gurrr-animal clothes.
> >
> > Michelle really is growing into a stunning woman. It's a good thing this
> > is the show's last year or Gellar might punt her the way she did
> > Charisma.
> >
> > Can't have anyone looking better than the lead, now can we? ;-)
> >
> ---
> Now that Faith is seems to be out of the running for SMG's successor.
> I hope a "Dawn the Vampire Slayer" scenerio can be worked out. Yes, I
> know that Willow's potential finder spell did not indicate Dawn and
Actually it did indicate Dawn--and the newbie.
> the Harbingers ignored her and went after Amanda (side note: not to be
> cruel but I have to say she is the ugliest of the SiTs. I don't go for
> heads that look like it was run over by a steamroller. And she is as
> thin as Winifred on "Angel", perhaps thinner taking porportion into
> account). But I am sure some halfway decent scenerio can be written
> making her a potential again. I think she would make a fine Slayer.
> The way she didn't hesitate to help Amanda proves that.
>
> And yes, she is going to be stunning. I hope she doesn't loose too
> much more baby fat in her face (Cordelia looks great with it).
The Harbingers could have been distracted by the newbie or Dawn's latent or
ex-keyness masked her potentiality.
-- Ken from Chicago (who wonders if his vocabularity will survive 7 seasons
of BTVS)
Jason Cormier
Browning" <anta...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> HBO air the season finale of THE SOPRANOS opposite the Emmies or Golden
>> Globes or some such awards a few months back.
>
> the finale of the Sopranos was Dec 8th.
>
> I'm trying to recall what award show was that night. The GG is in
> January, Emmys were in September and the Grammys were just a couple of
> night ago. The only other one I could think of was the Tonys, but
> that's in the summer.
>
> anyone remember which one it was.
Actually, it was the Emmys but it was not the finale of the Sopranos but
rather episode 2 (IIRC) of the fourth season. Conan made at least one
reference to this fact during the show.
PJ Browning
<buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Now that Faith is seems to be out of the running for SMG's successor.
> I hope a "Dawn the Vampire Slayer" scenerio can be worked out.
actually the way ME has had Kennedy in every scene points to that as
the next possible course of action.
BTR1701
buffh...@my-deja.com (Hunter) wrote:
> In article <BTR1702-6C005B...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
> BTR...@ix.netcom.com says...
> > In article <MPG.18c58cef8...@news.earthlink.net>,
> > buffh...@my-deja.com (Hunter) wrote:
> >
> > > Just about when her breast fell. BTW in some of the publicity shots
> > > of "Storyteller" I have seen Dawn is wearing a tight fitting top with a
> > > plunging v-neck. Purple in color IIRC. This is a sign from ME that
> > > she has grown up. They did the same with Willow about two years ago when
> > > she ditched her gurrr-animal clothes.
> >
> > Michelle really is growing into a stunning woman. It's a good thing
> > this is the show's last year or Gellar might punt her the way she did
> > Charisma.
> >
> > Can't have anyone looking better than the lead, now can we? ;-)
> >
> ---
> Now that Faith is seems to be out of the running for SMG's successor.
> I hope a "Dawn the Vampire Slayer" scenerio can be worked out. Yes, I
> know that Willow's potential finder spell did not indicate Dawn and
> the Harbingers ignored her and went after Amanda (side note: not to be
> cruel but I have to say she is the ugliest of the SiTs. I don't go for
> heads that look like it was run over by a steamroller. And she is as
> thin as Winifred on "Angel", perhaps thinner taking porportion into
> account).
I was at the Buffy PBP Party in LA a few weeks ago and Sarah Hagan was
there. She's actually a lot prettier in person. They plain her up a lot
for the show. However, I was struck by how unbelievably thin she was.
It's even more pronounced in person. She was wearing a skirt and I'm not
exagerrating when I say I could have nearly wrapped my hand around her
thigh and had my fingers touch on the other side.
On the other hand, Amy Acker (Fred) isn't nearly as thin as she appears
on the show. I don't if it's because she's dwarfed by large men all
around her so she looks thin in comparison but when I saw her, I wasn't
struck by her being anything but normal looking.
BTR1701
<kwicker_era...@ameritech.net> wrote:
bet·ter
Pronunciation: 'be-t&r
Function: adjective, comparative of GOOD
Etymology: Middle English bettre, from Old English betera; akin to Old
English bOt remedy, Sanskrit bhadra fortunate
Date: before 12th century
1 : greater than half
2 : improved in health or mental attitude
3 : more attractive, favorable, or commendable
4 : more advantageous or effective
forge
<kwicker_era...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>HBO air the season finale of THE SOPRANOS opposite the Emmies or Golden
>Globes or some such awards a few months back.
Awards shows are ass.
forge
<kwicker_era...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>High School Buffy was less about the plunging necklines than the high
>hemlines.
She wore some pretty ridiculously short skirts too though.
Hunter
anta...@pacbell.net says...
Kennedy the Vampire Slayer will be acceptable. She is good looking and
built nice, not quite as pretty as Faith but ok. And ofcourse Willow
will have a good reason to stick around. :-)
Hunter
kwicker_era...@ameritech.net says...
>
> "Hunter" <buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.18c5efbbc...@news.earthlink.net...
> > In article <BTR1702-6C005B...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
> > BTR...@ix.netcom.com says...
> > > In article <MPG.18c58cef8...@news.earthlink.net>,
> > > buffh...@my-deja.com (Hunter) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just about when her breast fell. BTW in some of the publicity shots of
> > > > "Storyteller" I have seen Dawn is wearing a tight fitting top with a
> > > > plunging v-neck. Purple in color IIRC. This is a sign from ME that she
> > > > has grown up. They did the same with Willow about two years ago when
> > > > she ditched her gurrr-animal clothes.
> > >
> > > Michelle really is growing into a stunning woman. It's a good thing this
> > > is the show's last year or Gellar might punt her the way she did
> > > Charisma.
> > >
> > > Can't have anyone looking better than the lead, now can we? ;-)
> > >
> > ---
> > Now that Faith is seems to be out of the running for SMG's successor.
> > I hope a "Dawn the Vampire Slayer" scenerio can be worked out. Yes, I
> > know that Willow's potential finder spell did not indicate Dawn and
>
> Actually it did indicate Dawn--and the newbie.
No it didn't. Dawn just happen to be in the way and pinned her to the
door when Amanda was on the otherside by coincidence. And like I said
before the Harbingers ignore her and went after Amanda immediately.
>
> > the Harbingers ignored her and went after Amanda (side note: not to be
> > cruel but I have to say she is the ugliest of the SiTs. I don't go for
> > heads that look like it was run over by a steamroller. And she is as
> > thin as Winifred on "Angel", perhaps thinner taking porportion into
> > account). But I am sure some halfway decent scenerio can be written
> > making her a potential again. I think she would make a fine Slayer.
> > The way she didn't hesitate to help Amanda proves that.
> >
> > And yes, she is going to be stunning. I hope she doesn't loose too
> > much more baby fat in her face (Cordelia looks great with it).
>
> The Harbingers could have been distracted by the newbie or Dawn's latent or
> ex-keyness masked her potentiality.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago (who wonders if his vocabularity will survive 7 seasons
> of BTVS)
>
>
>
Those could be justifications to make Dawn a potential again.
Ken
<snip>
> I was at the Buffy PBP Party in LA a few weeks ago and Sarah Hagan was
> there. She's actually a lot prettier in person. They plain her up a lot
> for the show. However, I was struck by how unbelievably thin she was.
> It's even more pronounced in person. She was wearing a skirt and I'm not
> exagerrating when I say I could have nearly wrapped my hand around her
> thigh and had my fingers touch on the other side.
>
> On the other hand, Amy Acker (Fred) isn't nearly as thin as she appears
> on the show. I don't if it's because she's dwarfed by large men all
> around her so she looks thin in comparison but when I saw her, I wasn't
> struck by her being anything but normal looking.
Plus Amy is a lot snappier dresser than Fred judging by the photo section on
www.imdb.com.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken
Oooh, so close. But in this kind of case, "better" is in the mind of the
beholder.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken
"forge" <bak...@spamsucks.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:b5jo5vod8aibjgnr4...@4ax.com...
Right, high hemlines = short skirts / dresses.
-- Ken from Chicago
higgy
> --Jennifer is a bloody wimp! That weak voice and constant tearful
> expression. I couldn't believe it when I saw a trailer for DareDevil
> and she was doing the same routine - isn't she supposed to be *bad* in
> that?--
>
> What exactly were you on when you saw this trailer?
That description is based largely on what I've seen of her in Alias.
> How is her jumping around in leather with knives her "weak voice and
> tearful expression"?
The bit I saw with JG had her perched on (I think) a rooftop turning to
look at some guy (probably Bullseye). Her performance, that bugs me so
much in Alias, seemed pretty much the same here - she just looked too
nervy, confused and pathetic for that kind of role.
> Don't lash out just because the original poster made some stupid
> points, it makes you look just as bad.
LOL. Thanks for the concern. ;-)
Really, I'm just backlashing because I don't get the Jennifer Garner
fixation so many seem to have. She's superficially similar to Emma
Caulfield, but never manages to convey the same depth or humour.
Dave.
forge
<kwicker_era...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> >High School Buffy was less about the plunging necklines than the high
>> >hemlines.
>>
>> She wore some pretty ridiculously short skirts too though.
>
>Right, high hemlines = short skirts / dresses.
Oh sorry, I parsed the sentence wrong. Now I see "LESS about necklines
THAN about hemlines." Duh.