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Joe Curwen

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Aug 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/2/00
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Who do you talk to if you want to add a "geek code" for Buffy? There are
lots of strong opinions on Faith and her level of guilt. There are Faith
hard-liners (Faith should fry) and Faith doves (Faith
needs understanding, sympathy and support and that's all). Others are in
between. If you need a different code definition to express how you feel
about Faith's guilt, I'd be interested in seeing it...


Geek Code: FG (Faith's Guilt)

FG++
Faith is guilty of capital crimes including murder, attempted murder,
kidnapping, conspiracy to commit mass murder. She should be tried and
fried. If society can't do it, the COW should. Faith is so dangerous
that the COW was justified in attempting to kill her, even if innocent
bystanders were harmed.

FG+
Faith is guilty of capital crimes. To her credit she turned herself in
and is now being punished. After she serves her sentence, her debt to
society is repaid. The COW was right in trying to restrain her, but went
overboard in trying to kill her - they do not have that right.

FG-
Faith is guilty of crimes. But considering the circumstances - her past
abuse and the horrible responsibility and burden of being a slayer, she
was pushed too far and cracked. The best thing for Faith is for her to
follow Angel's direction in trying to redeem herself. She should not be
in jail.

FG--
Murder? Torture? It was a cry for help! Faith didn't do anything that
any of us wouldn't do under the sad circumstances of her life. She was
pushed to evil by the callous disregard of Buffy and her gang. Buffy is
the one that needs some time in the slammer to think things over, not
Faith.


Joe
--
"Let me answer that question with a headbutt!" - Buffy


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Carla

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Aug 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/2/00
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In article <8m9t86$a3d$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Joe Curwen
<jcu...@my-deja.com> wrote:

Here. The geek code url is in my .sig.

Good addition, by the by.

O:) Carla

--
"Look it up under "Slayer, comma, The".--Buffy
BTVS Geek Code, short and sweet:
R---Dru+++J--Amy+++S&Dru+++B&R---XL+
Want your very own?: http://world.std.com/~tob/btvs-geek-code.html

Don Sample

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In article <grimoire_1998-F6C...@news.earthlink.net>,
Carla <grimoi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Minor terminology quibble: Captial crimes are crimes for which you can
get a death sentence, so should probably only be listed as the FG++
option (or maybe as an FG+++)

--
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Quando omni flunkus moritati

Davey

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Sign me up as a FG--

Not because she didn't go mad and turn evil for a while but
because she is a great character and the sooner the start work
on Faith : the Vampire Slayer the better.

And if they lock up anyone it should be Riley (I'll think of a
reason don't you worry ! )
:)


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Tom Breton

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Aug 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/2/00
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Joe Curwen <jcu...@my-deja.com> writes:

> Who do you talk to if you want to add a "geek code" for Buffy?

I suppose that would be me. I'm going to adopt a modified version,
with the opposite sign.

--
Tom Breton, http://world.std.com/~tob
Not using "gh" since 1997. http://world.std.com/~tob/ugh-free.html
BTVS geek code, http://world.std.com/~tob/btvs-geek-code.html
1+ 2+++ 3- 4- W--- R@ F+ A- Dar++ J+ A&B--- W&Moloch+++ T&O++ X&C+
X&Ay--- XL+++ Cru--- Gav--- JW- SMG+++ ED+ MN- DF- DP- JE+

Joe Curwen

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Aug 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/3/00
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In article <020820001750331857%dsa...@synapse.net>,

Don Sample <dsa...@synapse.net> wrote:
> In article <grimoire_1998-F6C...@news.earthlink.net>,
> Carla <grimoi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <8m9t86$a3d$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Joe Curwen
> > <jcu...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Who do you talk to if you want to add a "geek code" for Buffy?


Good catch. Probably works better to spread the choices out, too.

Joe Curwen

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Aug 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/3/00
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In article <m3snsnp...@world.std.com>,
Tom Breton <t...@world.std.com> wrote:

> Joe Curwen <jcu...@my-deja.com> writes:
>
> > Who do you talk to if you want to add a "geek code" for Buffy?
>
> I suppose that would be me. I'm going to adopt a modified version,
> with the opposite sign.
>
> --
> Tom Breton, http://world.std.com/~tob
> Not using "gh" since 1997. http://world.std.com/~tob/ugh-free.html
> BTVS geek code, http://world.std.com/~tob/btvs-geek-code.html
> 1+ 2+++ 3- 4- W--- R@ F+ A- Dar++ J+ A&B--- W&Moloch+++ T&O++ X&C+
> X&Ay--- XL+++ Cru--- Gav--- JW- SMG+++ ED+ MN- DF- DP- JE+
>

I'm curious - why the opposite sign?

Keith Adams

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Aug 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/3/00
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 01:41:28 GMT, Joe Curwen <jcu...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

>In article <m3snsnp...@world.std.com>,
> Tom Breton <t...@world.std.com> wrote:

>> I suppose that would be me. I'm going to adopt a modified version,
>> with the opposite sign.

>I'm curious - why the opposite sign?

Presumably because a "+" generally indicates a positive and not a
negative attitude towards something.

--
Keith Adams
"When a country is going downhill, it is time for someone
to get in the driving seat, put his foot on the accelerator."

Tom Breton

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Joe Curwen <jcu...@my-deja.com> writes:

> In article <m3snsnp...@world.std.com>,
> Tom Breton <t...@world.std.com> wrote:

> > Joe Curwen <jcu...@my-deja.com> writes:
> >
> > > Who do you talk to if you want to add a "geek code" for Buffy?
> >

> > I suppose that would be me. I'm going to adopt a modified version,
> > with the opposite sign.

>
> I'm curious - why the opposite sign?

Because of how it mismatches the "F" (Faith in general as a character)
symbol. If you both like the character and think she's redeemable,
that would have been "F+ FG-", and if you dislike her and don't think
she's redeemable, "F- FG+". That's weird, because the categories
overlap pragmatically yet they are written with opposite signs, and
because "+" usually aligns with "favorable view of X", not
"unfavorable".

So IMO it makes more sense to have the same polarity for both: "F+
FR+", "F- FR-". FWIW, that gives me myself "F+ FR-", so I am in no
way favoring my own viewpoint.

Joe Curwen

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In article <m3bszaw...@world.std.com>,

Thanks both. Makes sense.

Joe

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