Sailor Moon inspired Buffy?
Mark Moore
inspired the TV version of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
Consider the similarities:
1) Both title heroines are blonde.
2) Both title heroines have some special ability.
3) Both title heroines fall in love with mysterious people (Tuxedo
Mask and Angel).
4) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel save their respective title heroines.
5) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel dress primarily in black.
6) Both title heroines attended school.
7) Both title heroines keep their super-heroics a secret in dubious
ways (Sailor Moon by changing clothes; Buffy by mysteriously not being
hounded by reporters after the sheer number of people that she's
killed monsters in front of, much like Sailor Moon).
8) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel reveals their respective secrets to
their respective title heroines later in Season 1.
9) Both title heroines died and came back to life.
10) Both series are set up with a new main villain in each season, and
both title heroines fight regular monsters throughout each season
before confronting the main villain in the season finale.
Mark
@fake-email.com Neo Sailor Khyron, Kerochan no Miko
> I've been thinking about this recently. Could "Sailor Moon" have
> inspired the TV version of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
You do realize that all of these "similarites" aren't really all that unique
to the individual shows?
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ten/mark
-Both are Japenese shows except one isnt - it astounds science!
-Both shows have Sailor Senshi except for the one that doesnt. Coincidence?
I think not...
-Both shows were inspired by the movie Buffy except for one of them.
Conspiracy? You decide
-Both shows are animated excepted for the one that is live action except for
the fact one was is both live action and anime but not at the same time...
it astounds science!
- Both shows are... but why go on?
Larson E. Whipsnade,."Feast your eyes on the smallest giant in the world and
his twin brother, the tallest midget in the world. They astound science"
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Rob
"Mark Moore" <sailo...@naturecoast.net> wrote in message
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You know, these are really things that have been done a hundred times
before. The thing is, both are inspired from the same source material. With
Buffy it's pretty direct, the show is constantly paying homage to the comic
books it 'borrowed' a lot of its ideas from. With Sailor Moon it's a bit
more indirect, but American culture did play a large influence over Japanese
works, particularly anime.
Aethelrede
ten/mark wrote in message ...
>
>-Both are Japenese shows except one isnt - it astounds science!
>-Both shows have Sailor Senshi except for the one that doesnt. Coincidence?
>I think not...
>-Both shows were inspired by the movie Buffy except for one of them.
>Conspiracy? You decide
>-Both shows are animated excepted for the one that is live action except
for
>the fact one was is both live action and anime but not at the same time...
>it astounds science!
>- Both shows are... but why go on?
Buffy must have been inspired by "Xena Warrior Princess": both are live
action and star a woman who kicks butt and often fights supernatural beings,
except in one they were mostly Greek gods, except that one time she fought
Greek vampires.
"Joan of Arcadia" must have been inspired by Buffy: the lead character
is a schoolgirl, except she talks with god, has two parents and two brothers
and there are no vampires or demons.
Then there's "Tru calling" which must be inspired by Buffy because
there's an actor who was in Buffy. Except she works in a morticians office
and is the ultimate repeato-girl.
Of course all these shows were inspired by either "Wonder Woman" or "The
Bionic Woman". Or maybe it was "The Sound of Music"?
And which inspired "Kim Possible"?
arnold kim
"Aethelrede" <aethe...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Actually, Kim saying "What's the sitch?" makes me think there's a little
bit of Buffy in there.
Arnold Kim
himiko
> > I've been thinking about this recently. Could "Sailor Moon" have
> > inspired the TV version of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
> <snip>
>
> You do realize that all of these "similarites" aren't really all that unique
> to the individual shows?
And that SM is part of a genre of anime (a mix of two really: shoujo
and bishoujo senshi) which includes most of these traits. Joss may
have been influenced by this entire genre although he claims he
wasn't, but that's as far as it goes. Also, the movie BTVS predates
SM.
himiko
Aethelrede
arnold kim wrote in message
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Did Buffy ever say that? But Kim is Buffy-like, Ron is a Xander clone,
which leaves us to wonder who Rufus is. Maybe the KP version of Oz? He'd
fit into my shaving kit. And that cheerleader Kim keeps putting down is so
Cordelia.
I just wish they'd made more than 10 eps. I turn to the Disney channel,
and there is never an ep I haven't already seen: I watch the Intro and it's
one that's been aired a dozen or more times in the last few months.
Sheesh, I just admitted to tuning to the Disney channel. Lame much?
Mikko Löppönen
"Mark Moore" <sailo...@naturecoast.net> wrote in message
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> inspired the TV version of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
Well no. I think Buffy was inspired by Demon Hunter Yohko.
Chris Kern
Miko" <user @ fake-email.com> posted the following:
>Mark Moore wrote:
>> I've been thinking about this recently. Could "Sailor Moon" have
>> inspired the TV version of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
><snip>
>
>You do realize that all of these "similarites" aren't really all that unique
>to the individual shows?
Plus, Joss Whedon has said numerous times in interviews that Buffy was
inspired by B horror movies.
-Chris
David Samuel Barr
>
> >Actually, Kim saying "What's the sitch?" makes me think there's a
> >little bit of Buffy in there.
>
> Did Buffy ever say that? But Kim is Buffy-like, Ron is a Xander
> clone, which leaves us to wonder who Rufus is. Maybe the KP version
> of Oz?
Nope; Willow.
> He'd fit into my shaving kit. And that cheerleader Kim keeps
> putting down is so Cordelia.
> I just wish they'd made more than 10 eps.
They've made 49 22-minute episodes (three of which were combined into
a single TV movie), and 6 11-minute ones which are shown in pairs.
> I turn to the Disney channel, and there is never an ep I haven't
> already seen: I watch the Intro and it's one that's been aired a
> dozen or more times in the last few months.
There does seem to be a severe imbalance in the airing schedule. Some
episodes are aired very frequently while others have shown up only a
couple of times, even though the show is now shown twice daily. There
are still six episodes which have yet to premiere, but they will do so
on Fridays over the next few months.
Frank White
aethe...@worldnet.att.net says...
There should be some way to mention the Teen Titans here, but
heck if I can figure out how.
> And which inspired "Kim Possible"?
Ah. But that's based on reality. ^_^
FW
William George Ferguson
<dsb...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Aethelrede wrote:
>>
>> >Actually, Kim saying "What's the sitch?" makes me think there's a
>> >little bit of Buffy in there.
>>
>> Did Buffy ever say that? But Kim is Buffy-like, Ron is a Xander
>> clone, which leaves us to wonder who Rufus is. Maybe the KP version
>> of Oz?
>
>Nope; Willow.
"Uh-huh. Definitely."
>> He'd fit into my shaving kit. And that cheerleader Kim keeps
>> putting down is so Cordelia.
Bonnie Rottweiler :)
>> I just wish they'd made more than 10 eps.
>
>They've made 49 22-minute episodes (three of which were combined into
>a single TV movie), and 6 11-minute ones which are shown in pairs.
>
>> I turn to the Disney channel, and there is never an ep I haven't
>> already seen: I watch the Intro and it's one that's been aired a
>> dozen or more times in the last few months.
>
>There does seem to be a severe imbalance in the airing schedule. Some
>episodes are aired very frequently while others have shown up only a
>couple of times, even though the show is now shown twice daily. There
>are still six episodes which have yet to premiere, but they will do so
>on Fridays over the next few months.
A new one (or actually 2 half length ones) is airing today. Kim airs in
early evening on Friday, then repeats the ep late night on Friday (5pm
and 11pm here in Phoenix).
So, matching the characters:
Buffy Anne Summers Kimberly Ann Possible
Joyce Summers Dr. Possible (Dad)
Rupert Giles Dr. Possible (Mom)
Dawn Summers The Tweebs (Jim and Tim Possible)
Xander Harris Ron Stoppable
Willow Rosenberg Rufus the naked mole rat
Principle Snyder Coach Barkin
Cordelia Chase Bonnie Rottweiler
The Mayor Dr. Drakken
Faith Shego (hey, she was even once a good guy)
The Master Senor Senor Sr.
Darla Senor Senor Jr.
Adam Duff Killigan
Professor Walsh Doctor Director
Oz Monique
Tara McClay Wade
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called "Vampire Hunter Yohko."
arnold kim
She said it a few times. Well, either her or someone else in the show.
> which leaves us to wonder who Rufus is. Maybe the KP version of Oz? He'd
> fit into my shaving kit. And that cheerleader Kim keeps putting down is
so
> Cordelia.
Especially Season 2 Cordelia, when she had that whole "You have to save the
world, but I don't care" attitude. And the twins are a male Dawn split into
two.
> I just wish they'd made more than 10 eps. I turn to the Disney
channel,
> and there is never an ep I haven't already seen: I watch the Intro and
it's
> one that's been aired a dozen or more times in the last few months.
> Sheesh, I just admitted to tuning to the Disney channel. Lame much?
Dude, I wish I still had the Disney Channel.
Arnold Kim
Aethelrede
arnold kim wrote in message ...
And the ep at 11 pm last night was one I'd never seen before. Maybe
they're making new ones after all.
salmoneous
You joke, but I firmly believe that BvVS owes a *huge* debt to X:WP.
Noitartst
> I've been thinking about this recently. Could "Sailor Moon" have
> inspired the TV version of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
>
> Consider the similarities:
>
> 1) Both title heroines are blonde.
>
Ya.
> 2) Both title heroines have some special ability.
>
Ya.
> 3) Both title heroines fall in love with mysterious people (Tuxedo
> Mask and Angel).
>
Ya.
> 4) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel save their respective title heroines.
>
Ya.
> 5) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel dress primarily in black.
>
Ya.
> 6) Both title heroines attended school.
>
Ya.
> 7) Both title heroines keep their super-heroics a secret in dubious
> ways (Sailor Moon by changing clothes; Buffy by mysteriously not being
> hounded by reporters after the sheer number of people that she's
> killed monsters in front of, much like Sailor Moon).
>
Ya, though in Sailor Moon's case, her no. 1 manga explains that one of
her special magical powers is for no one to be able to figure out
Usagi and Sailor Moon are one and the same.
> 8) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel reveals their respective secrets to
> their respective title heroines later in Season 1.
>
Ya.
> 9) Both title heroines died and came back to life.
>
Ya.
> 10) Both series are set up with a new main villain in each season, and
> both title heroines fight regular monsters throughout each season
> before confronting the main villain in the season finale.
>
True, but most of all, one is feminine whereas the other if feminist.
It is not really girl power, as I think as it is currently thought of
as a nebulous, ill-defined term.
My thoughts on anime feminism in general and SM last year when
attending class on gender in film, taught by a Japanese woman. SHe
hated the class, and came to loathe me in particular, but I learned in
spades that quarter.
Noitartst
pick your mind again.
Noitartst
Thou art at best yesting, methinks; Sailor Moon's inspiration was the
1991 Manga Sailor V, which, if my mind is correct, came out a year
before the Buffy flick and the Sailor Moon TV show.
Frank White
noit...@hotmail.com says...
Noitartst! Good to see you around, guy!
Afraid I haven't been diligent on working on my response to your
thesis on Sailor Moon's seasons. I think I got half way through
season 2, and then got distracted. I'll have to figure out
where I put it and get back to work...
Why did you want to pick on... I mean, PICK my mind? ^_^
FW
David Samuel Barr
>
> Actually I think Joss said Buffy is slightly inspired by an anime
> called "Vampire Hunter Yohko."
No, that's just been David M. Sueme's personal mantra.
In six years he's never been able to produce any actual evidence
of same, so if you have an actual source directly quoting Whedon to
that effect, please do us all a favour and provide a citation.
Noitartst
into you again, because arguing with Moonies, I think, has done
wonders in honing my intellectual skills. You people are like
sparring partners.
redruIvI
wrong..)
Buffy (movie): 1992
Sailor Moon (series): 1995.
"Noitartst" <noit...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Steve "Usotsuki" Nickolas
> Sailor Moon couldnt have inspired Buffy.. 'Cause, (Please, correct me if I'm
> wrong..)
>
> Buffy (movie): 1992
> Sailor Moon (series): 1995.
Sailor Moon (series) (Japan) - ca. Feb. or Mar. 1992
-uso.
redruIvI
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Spike
>Well, I enjoy responding to responses, and I was was hoping to run
>into you again, because arguing with Moonies, I think, has done
>wonders in honing my intellectual skills. You people are like
>sparring partners.
LMAO! Yes, I understand that show attracts the worlds greatest
minds.
Spike
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Aethelrede
redruIvI wrote in message ...
And it was read by how many people in the USA? And how many of them
were in ME?
Frank White
says...
>
>Sailor Moon couldnt have inspired Buffy.. 'Cause, (Please, correct me if
I'm
>wrong..)
>
>Buffy (movie): 1992
>Sailor Moon (series): 1995.
Time travel.
Sailor Pluto/Willow, betcha. ^_^
FW
Frank White
Whew, I thought you were going to say 'punching bags'!
^_^
FW
Rowan Hawthorn
"Steve "Usotsuki" Nickolas" <usot...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Which means that both would have been in production at the same time, and
the series *still* couldn't have been the inspiration for the Buffy movie.
--
Rowan Hawthorn
"I love mankind, it's people I can't stand." - Linus Van Pelt
Mitch Simmons
BUT..isn't it obvious? Buffy stole its ideas from " Night Stalker" with
Darren McGavin.
Noitartst
> >> thesis on Sailor Moon's seasons. I think I got half way through
> >> season 2, and then got distracted. I'll have to figure out
> >> where I put it and get back to work...
> >>
> >> Why did you want to pick on... I mean, PICK my mind? ^_^
> >>
> >Well, I enjoy responding to responses, and I was was hoping to run
> >into you again, because arguing with Moonies, I think, has done
> >wonders in honing my intellectual skills. You people are like
> >sparring partners.
>
> Whew, I thought you were going to say 'punching bags'!
>
> ^_^
>
who disagree. Rather, you teach me much about the human condition, or
perhaps more to the point, serve as a Yorick skull.
Rowan Hawthorn
"Mitch Simmons" <demon...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Well having never seen, nor wanting to see sailor goon, I cant say.
> BUT..isn't it obvious? Buffy stole its ideas from " Night Stalker" with
> Darren McGavin.
>
Yes, because Kolchak was a slight, blond, female cheerleader who is the
latest in a long line of mystically-enhanced Slayers.
About the only thing the shows have in common is that a) they're set in
modern times, b) they involve hunting demons, vampires, etc, and c) they
*both* lifted their ideas from a couple hundred years of genre fiction.
Mitch Simmons
Gang"...naaaah. The cartoon hunted hauntings, demons, and...OH NO!
David Cheatham
>
> arnold kim wrote in message
> <441ic.103272$_g4.23...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
> >
> >"Aethelrede" <aethe...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:mq%hc.12234$_o3.3...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > >
> >> And which inspired "Kim Possible"?
> >
> > Actually, Kim saying "What's the sitch?" makes me think there's a
> > little bit of Buffy in there.
>
> Did Buffy ever say that? But Kim is Buffy-like, Ron is a Xander
> clone, which leaves us to wonder who Rufus is. Maybe the KP version
> of Oz? He'd fit into my shaving kit. And that cheerleader Kim keeps
> putting down is so Cordelia.
I was about to claim Wade was Willow, when I realized he was actually
kinda Giles, or at a least a combination of Giles and Willow. He got
Giles' exposition skills *and* Willow's computer skills.
Ron is so Xander it's scary...he's even had at least one Zeppo episode,
where he saves the day and doesn't tell anyone.
I don't think it makes any sense to match Rufus up to anyone, although
the Oz comparison is hilarious.
And Kim is Buffy sans Slayer-angst about being the Choosen One.
Actually, she's got Buffy beat in general competency, and she has a
non-dysfunctional family.
Who are Jim and Tim?
David Samuel Barr
>
> Aethelrede wrote:
>
> > Did Buffy ever say that? But Kim is Buffy-like, Ron is a Xander
> > clone, which leaves us to wonder who Rufus is. Maybe the KP version
> > of Oz? He'd fit into my shaving kit. And that cheerleader Kim
> > keeps putting down is so Cordelia.
>
> I was about to claim Wade was Willow, when I realized he was actually
> kinda Giles, or at a least a combination of Giles and Willow. He got
> Giles' exposition skills *and* Willow's computer skills.
>
> Ron is so Xander it's scary...he's even had at least one Zeppo
> episode, where he saves the day and doesn't tell anyone.
>
> I don't think it makes any sense to match Rufus up to anyone, although
> the Oz comparison is hilarious.
The Oz comparison really doesn't work, but as I already pointed out,
the Willow one does. After all:
1) They're both the real brains of the outfit.
2) They're both good with computers and other technical stuff.
3) They're both cute, but with a tough streak that comes out as needed.
4) They're both played by women.
> And Kim is Buffy sans Slayer-angst about being the Choosen One.
> Actually, she's got Buffy beat in general competency, and she has a
> non-dysfunctional family.
>
> Who are Jim and Tim?
Dawn, divisi a 2.
Mark Moore
> "Steve "Usotsuki" Nickolas" <usot...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:9E_ic.22351$eK3....@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > redruIvI wrote:
> > > Sailor Moon couldnt have inspired Buffy.. 'Cause, (Please, correct me if
> I'm
> > > wrong..)
> > >
> > > Buffy (movie): 1992
> > > Sailor Moon (series): 1995.
> >
> > Sailor Moon (series) (Japan) - ca. Feb. or Mar. 1992
> >
> > -uso.
> >
>
> Which means that both would have been in production at the same time, and
> the series *still* couldn't have been the inspiration for the Buffy movie.
Sailor Moon dub - 1995
Buffy TV series - 1997
It's still possible that Sailor Moon inspired the Buffy TV series,
which, if you'll read my list, you'll notice that that was what I
theorized that Sailor Moon inspired, not the Buffy movie.
Mark
Rowan Hawthorn
"Mark Moore" <sailo...@naturecoast.net> wrote in message
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But it wasn't your post I was responding to. Those two previous posters
(whose posts are included above) were talking about the movie.
The Fish Girl
Easy... Match the characters.
Raven = Angel, all black and broody also never wanna get on EITHER of their bad
sides.
Robin = Buffy, the leader and the borderline villian though Robin is WAY less
abusive.
Starfire = Illyria VERY powerful and niave in the way of the world.
Cyborg = Gunn, totally butt kicking street dude who got a major upgrade.,
Beast Boy = Xander total comic relief and rarely a huge contender in fights.
Terra = Faith, unpredictable, wild child in a way and rumors of her going bad.
Mandi
The fish Girl
"I saw Fish"
"Hey it's the Fish Girl!"
The Fish Girl
1) Both title heroines are blonde. >><BR><BR>
Both also were kinda air headed when first introduced.
<< 2) Both title heroines have some special ability. >><BR><BR>
I don't consider crying a special ability.
<< 3) Both title heroines fall in love with mysterious people (Tuxedo
Mask and Angel). >><BR><BR>
Still think if the USA ever does a live action SM movie David should play
Mamo-chan.
<< 4) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel save their respective title heroines.
>><BR><BR>
Both also turn evil briefly.
<< 5) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel dress primarily in black. >><BR><BR>
And look GREAT in a tux.
<< 6) Both title heroines attended school. >><BR><BR>
But Usagi doesn't spend time in the library.
<< 7) Both title heroines keep their super-heroics a secret in dubious
ways (Sailor Moon by changing clothes; Buffy by mysteriously not being
hounded by reporters after the sheer number of people that she's
killed monsters in front of, much like Sailor Moon).
>><BR><BR>
The "other people's problem" syndrome strikes again.
<< 8) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel reveals their respective secrets to
their respective title heroines later in Season 1. >><BR><BR>
Not like either of them had a choice in the matter.
<< 9) Both title heroines died and came back to life. >><BR><BR>
I'll one up you... both have died twice and come back. Check the Sailor Moon R
movie if you get confused.
<< 10) Both series are set up with a new main villain in each season, and
both title heroines fight regular monsters throughout each season
before confronting the main villain in the season finale. >><BR><BR>
True but Sailor Moon didn't really have little big bads like Buffy did. Like in
seasons 2-4 there were the small time villains like Spike and Dru, Dr. Walsh,
and Mr. Trick, and half way through the REAL big bads would show. Angelus, The
Mayor, and Adam.
arnold kim
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> << Consider the similarities:
> << 10) Both series are set up with a new main villain in each season, and
> both title heroines fight regular monsters throughout each season
> before confronting the main villain in the season finale. >><BR><BR>
>
> True but Sailor Moon didn't really have little big bads like Buffy did.
Like in
> seasons 2-4 there were the small time villains like Spike and Dru, Dr.
Walsh,
> and Mr. Trick, and half way through the REAL big bads would show. Angelus,
The
> Mayor, and Adam.
The generals, Ail and An, etc... You wouldn't call them the "little bads"?
Arnold Kim
Mad Hamish
wrote:
>I've been thinking about this recently. Could "Sailor Moon" have
>inspired the TV version of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
>
Seeing as BTVS the movie was made several years before Sailor Moon I
can't see how.
>Consider the similarities:
>
>1) Both title heroines are blonde.
see Buffy the Movie
>
>2) Both title heroines have some special ability.
see Buffy the Movie
>
>3) Both title heroines fall in love with mysterious people (Tuxedo
>Mask and Angel).
Wow, never before seen
>
>4) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel save their respective title heroines.
Wow, never before seen
>
>5) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel dress primarily in black.
Wow, never before seen
>
>6) Both title heroines attended school.
Wow, never before seen
>
>7) Both title heroines keep their super-heroics a secret in dubious
>ways (Sailor Moon by changing clothes; Buffy by mysteriously not being
>hounded by reporters after the sheer number of people that she's
>killed monsters in front of, much like Sailor Moon).
Wow, never before seen
>
>8) Both Tuxedo Mask and Angel reveals their respective secrets to
>their respective title heroines later in Season 1.
Wow, never before seen.
>
>9) Both title heroines died and came back to life.
Wow, never before seen.
>
>10) Both series are set up with a new main villain in each season, and
>both title heroines fight regular monsters throughout each season
>before confronting the main villain in the season finale.
>
Wow, never before seen
(nor entirely accurate for Buffy)
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Mad Hamish
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arnold kim
"Mad Hamish" <newslaws...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> On 22 Apr 2004 12:51:47 -0700, sailo...@naturecoast.net (Mark Moore)
> wrote:
>
> >I've been thinking about this recently. Could "Sailor Moon" have
> >inspired the TV version of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
> >
> Seeing as BTVS the movie was made several years before Sailor Moon I
> can't see how.
Both came out in 1992.
> >Consider the similarities:
> >
> >1) Both title heroines are blonde.
>
> see Buffy the Movie
> >
> >2) Both title heroines have some special ability.
>
> see Buffy the Movie
> >
> >3) Both title heroines fall in love with mysterious people (Tuxedo
> >Mask and Angel).
>
> Wow, never before seen
<snip same response ad nausem>
You do realize that his point wasn't about the originality of the ideas, but
the combination of specific similarities they share?
Arnold Kim
The Fish Girl
Lemme rephrase, Most times Sailor Moon didn't introduce the big bads mid season
like Buffy did. Sailor Moon S is really where I can think we didn't see the
puppet Master until late in the season. Other than that we always knew who they
were up against. Dark Kingdom, Ail and An, Dark Moon, the Mirror chick,
Galaxia. Always saw them in the first or second ep.
Mad Hamish
<arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>"Mad Hamish" <newslaws...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>news:oke6905grc0qkdm2r...@4ax.com...
>> On 22 Apr 2004 12:51:47 -0700, sailo...@naturecoast.net (Mark Moore)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I've been thinking about this recently. Could "Sailor Moon" have
>> >inspired the TV version of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
>> >
>> Seeing as BTVS the movie was made several years before Sailor Moon I
>> can't see how.
>
>Both came out in 1992.
According to IMDB the earliest Sailor Moon thing was in 1993, Buffy
was released in 92
>
>> >Consider the similarities:
>> >
>> >1) Both title heroines are blonde.
>>
>> see Buffy the Movie
>> >
>> >2) Both title heroines have some special ability.
>>
>> see Buffy the Movie
>> >
>> >3) Both title heroines fall in love with mysterious people (Tuxedo
>> >Mask and Angel).
>>
>> Wow, never before seen
>
><snip same response ad nausem>
>
>You do realize that his point wasn't about the originality of the ideas, but
>the combination of specific similarities they share?
>
and the fact that Buffy was released before Sailor moon suggests that
he's wrong.
Mad Hamish
<arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>"Mad Hamish" <newslaws...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>news:oke6905grc0qkdm2r...@4ax.com...
>> On 22 Apr 2004 12:51:47 -0700, sailo...@naturecoast.net (Mark Moore)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I've been thinking about this recently. Could "Sailor Moon" have
>> >inspired the TV version of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
>> >
>> Seeing as BTVS the movie was made several years before Sailor Moon I
>> can't see how.
>
>Both came out in 1992.
According to IMDB the earliest Sailor Moon thing was in 1993, Buffy
was released in 92
Dammit, no. Hidden in the middle of the Sailor Moon list was one
saying 92.
Of course the odds of it having any effect on Buffy the movie given
the lead time to make a movie still makes it a ludicrous theory.
Chris Schumacher
> and the fact that Buffy was released before Sailor moon suggests that
> he's wrong.
Actually it wasn't. Sailor Moon premiered on the 7th of March, 1992.
Buffy the movie hit theatres in July of that same year. This is not even
mentioning the Sailor V manga. (which IIRC, is only a couple of months
older)
Not that there's any point to the argument, though I wonder if there
might not be a connection. (I mean look at the Angelus storyline and the
Endymion storyline in the manga. The only difference is that Buffy didn't
kill herself after she sent Angel to Hell. But it's still probably just a
coincidence.)
Of course, a solid argument could be made that the new live action series
is ripping-off Buffy. Where else would Evil Ami have come from?
Also there's the fact that the date on the gravestone in the comic
adaption was 1990, suggesting that the script they used was much older.
(I've since read the available script for Buffy the movie, and it bore
almost no resemblance to The Origin. Does anyone know what the hell's
going on with that? I thought The Origin was supposed to have been based
on that script; did they use an earlier draft?)
-==Kensu==-
Xenophile
effects on the *TV series* BtVS. Didn't BtVS have an arc where Buffy gets a
new little sister? She just shows up, everybody's been brainwashed, and
even photos are altered. Wasn't there some maybe-they-are-maybe-they're-not
lesbian couple on BtVS? Don't both involve unlikely schoolgirl heroes with
less-than-heroic-sounding names? Aren't both Tux and Angel corrupted by
evil... at least for a little while? These things plus the whole list of
"Wow, never before seen" things makes a body wonder. None of these things
alone, not even two, three, maybe even four of them taken together, but ALL
OF THEM. And BSSM was out before the *TV series* BtVS.
Xenophile (and when did Devil Hunter Yohko come out?)