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How did Angel get into Giles house?

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azywuzzy

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Jan 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/9/99
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In Passion, after killing Jenny, Angel dropped her off at Giles' place. I
might have missed this particular scene but was he ever invited into Giles'
place before?

If this has been discussed before, my foremost apologies....

Linda

FltwdMcFrk

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>In Passion, after killing Jenny, Angel dropped her off at Giles' place. I
>might have missed this particular scene but was he ever invited into >Giles'
>place before?

There's no actual scene in an episode that show Angel being invited in (much
like the long-lost "Cordy finds out Angel is a vmapire" scene). It's left up to
our imaginations as to hwo it came about.

(The Other) Jim

take your silver spoon and dig your grave

Snorre

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azywuzzy skrev i meldingen <776lpb$gb5$1...@mango.singnet.com.sg>...

>In Passion, after killing Jenny, Angel dropped her off at Giles' place. I
>might have missed this particular scene but was he ever invited into Giles'
>place before?
>
>If this has been discussed before, my foremost apologies....
>
>Linda
>
Giles said that he should do the "Uninvited" spell on his appartment when he
was at Buffy's place. The next scene is when he finds Jenny in his bed.

Snorre

XanderGyrl

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Jan 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/9/99
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>There's no actual scene in an episode that show Angel being invited in (much
>like the long-lost "Cordy finds out Angel is a vmapire" scene). It's left up
>to
>our imaginations as to hwo it came about.

I thought there was an actual scene. I think it's when the door was opened.
Hehe. :-)
Lindsey Anne
......................

"Can you comtemplate getting over yourself for a second?"

azywuzzy

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Jan 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/10/99
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Snorre wrote in message <778c52$jk$1...@readme.online.no>...
>
>Giles said that he should do the "Uninvited" spell on his apartment when he

was at Buffy's place. The next scene is when he finds Jenny in his bed.
>

Does that mean that somewhere in time, Angel was ever invited into Giles'
house... probably when he was still good and hanging around Buffy and gang
lots? Becos that's the only explanation I can think of.. wouldn't expect
Giles to invite Angel in after he became bad.....

Linda


Vicless

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Jan 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/10/99
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"azywuzzy wrote:

>
>Does that mean that somewhere in time, Angel was ever invited into Giles'
>house... probably when he was still good and hanging around Buffy and gang
>lots? Becos that's the only explanation I can think of.. wouldn't expect
>Giles to invite Angel in after he became bad.....


Yes, of course that's what it means. Obviously, Angel would have been just
about everywhere the rest of the gang would have been.

Later,
Victoria

And the rain it raineth every day...
Shakespeare

DM Who

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Jan 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/12/99
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He was invited in but they never showed it on screen.

azywuzzy

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Jan 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/12/99
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How did you know this?

Linda

DM Who wrote in message <19990111193819...@ng142.aol.com>...

David Samuel Barr

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Jan 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/12/99
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azywuzzy wrote:
>
> DM Who wrote in message > <19990111193819...@ng142.aol.com>...
> >He was invited in but they never showed it on screen.
>
> How did you know this?

1) During the preceding year, not every moment of which was chronicled
on screen, Angel showed himself to be an ally to Buffy and the
Slayerettes, so it is perfectly reasonable to assume that at *some*
point he had occasion to stop by Giles's home and be invited in.

2) In "Passion", Giles specifically states that he has to go home and
perform the uninvite spell there, which even more clearly evidences
that Angel had at some point been granted access which has to be
revoked. (Of course, it is just at this time that Angel is leaving
Jenny's body in Giles's bedroom.)

Timothy A. McDaniel

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Jan 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/12/99
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In article <77ev02$dro$1...@mango.singnet.com.sg>,

azywuzzy <azyw...@singnet.com.sg> wrote:
>DM Who wrote in message <19990111193819...@ng142.aol.com>...
>>He was invited in but they never showed it on screen.
>
>How did you know this?

It's been discussed several times on this newsgroup.

1. Because Angel was, in fact, able to enter Giles' house, and it's
been said several times that a vampire can't enter a private home
unless invited. "If A then B; if not A then not B; B" implies "A".

2. Because Giles says in "Passion" that he needs to do the uninvite
cantrip.

--
Tim McDaniel. Reply to tm...@crl.com;
if that fail, tm...@austin.ibm.com is my work account.

Eric Nehrlich

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Jan 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/13/99
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K.B.Lamke wrote:
> > It's been discussed several times on this newsgroup.
> >
> > 1. Because Angel was, in fact, able to enter Giles' house, and it's
> > been said several times that a vampire can't enter a private home
> > unless invited. "If A then B; if not A then not B; B" implies "A".
> >
> > 2. Because Giles says in "Passion" that he needs to do the uninvite
> > cantrip.
> >
> Ya know, this question has been here alot, and I still remember watching
> Buffy a long time ago and seeing Angel go to Giles house, to give him a book
> of some sort. But according to everyone here, that never happened.
>
> K.B.Lamke

If you could cite an episode, that might help. The only time I recall
Angel going to Giles to give him a book were in Out of Sight, Out of Mind
(he's bringing the Codex to Giles and rescues the Slayerettes from Marcie's
gas trap), and Prophecy Girl (where Angel and Giles consult about what's in
the Codex). Both of which times he met Giles at the library at night. In
fact, I'm not even sure when the first time we saw Giles's apartment was,
but the first episode I'm sure of is The Dark Age, and Surprise/Innocence
was only a few episodes after that, which doesn't leave much time for an
onscreen visit of Angel to Giles's place.
--
Eric Nehrlich, with a mind like a steel sieve

K.B.Lamke

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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Timothy A. McDaniel wrote:

> In article <77ev02$dro$1...@mango.singnet.com.sg>,
> azywuzzy <azyw...@singnet.com.sg> wrote:
> >DM Who wrote in message <19990111193819...@ng142.aol.com>...
> >>He was invited in but they never showed it on screen.
> >
> >How did you know this?
>

> It's been discussed several times on this newsgroup.
>
> 1. Because Angel was, in fact, able to enter Giles' house, and it's
> been said several times that a vampire can't enter a private home
> unless invited. "If A then B; if not A then not B; B" implies "A".
>
> 2. Because Giles says in "Passion" that he needs to do the uninvite
> cantrip.
>

> --
> Tim McDaniel. Reply to tm...@crl.com;
> if that fail, tm...@austin.ibm.com is my work account.

Ya know, this question has been here alot, and I still remember watching

GTRHATERS

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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Hey, you guys...remember how in the episode where Angel was going crazy and
seeing all his past kills, he went to Giles for help, and Giles invited him in.
Thats how Angel is allowed in Giles' again!

Ben Walsh

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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GTRHATERS wrote in message <19990114012001...@ng-fb1.aol.com>...

Right, but that's not the point.

ben

LAPeta

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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>(much like the long-lost "Cordy finds out
>Angel is a vmapire" scene

Doesn't Cordy learn this during or just after the Halloween episode. Buffy and
Willow tell her straight out, and she comments about it to Angel. I'm pretty
sure that at some point thereafter, Angel vamps out and Cordy see it. Further,
I recall someone saying in response to her--"Its okay, Angel is a good vamp."

Could be wrong, I haven't seen the eps in a while....

Cheers!
Peta

Don Sample

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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In article <19990123171253...@ng-ch1.aol.com>, lap...@aol.com
(LAPeta) wrote:

Even by the end of Halloween Cordy has never seen Angel in vamp face. Her
"It's OK, Angel's a good vampire" comment was clearly meant just to humour
Buffy.

--
Don Sample, dsa...@synapse.net
Visit the Buffy Body Count at http://www.synapse.net/~dsample/BBC
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