AOQ Review 1-3: "Witch"
Arbitrar Of Quality
threads.
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER
Season One, Episode 3: "Witch"
(or "newts, once indigenous to most of North America, were hunted to
the brink of extinction by witches, who valued them for their
eyes...")
Writer: Dana Reston
Director: Stephen Cragg
The opening gag of "Witch" features Giles ranting about the duties of a
Slayer and the dangers of "cultish" behavior. The camera slowly pans
to show Buffy dressed as a cheerleader. It's a decent enough joke that
sets the stage for the mostly-lightweight episode that follows it. The
ending of "The Harvest" promised us _Buffy_-ized takes on other
supernatural creatures besides vampires, and this episode shows that
they can be the focal points for episodes centered more around normal
life in Sunnydale. The variety should give the series some legs.
There are few things more thoroughly stupid than cheerleading (except
perhaps cheerleading competitions), but it's hard to fault Buffy too
much for trying out. Some kids sit and home watching vampire shows,
and some kids would rather wave pompoms and at least try to hang out
with the popular crowd. Although obviously there's witchcraft and
stuff going on, a good part of "Witch" is about seeing how our heroes
would fare in a school-based comedy, and they do okay for themselves,
with most of the situations and wordplay seeming like it makes sense.
When Xander lets us know that he really isn't bothered by school-spirit
type events as long as they feature scantily-clad chicks, it elicits
tolerant smiles, because we all know people like that.
The nasty stuff underneath the surface of this episode gets coated with
a veneer of fun; the story of Amy's nightmarish mom is introduced
early, but it's done within the context of the grin-inducing image of
broth-only diets and brownie binges. Once the witchcraft starts,
Cordelia getting blinded is played mostly for jokes as we gradually
figure it out, and who can do anything but grin during the early parts
of Buffy's perky scenes ("juice!")? Actually, I have no idea why
Catherine's spell requires Buffy to go insane or why she snaps out of
it when she does, but my fiancee and I didn't feel the need to think
too hard about it; we were too busy deciding that "[name]-shaped
friend" is pretty much the BEST PHRASE EVAR!!!1!! and should be part of
every conversation.
Most of this review has focused on how light and fun this episode is.
But when it goes for heavier themes... well, Catherine is easily the
darkest and scariest thing that this young show has produced to date.
Although she's offscreen for most of it, I was struck by how
thoroughly twisted the character is. I didn't predict the body-switch
revelation (though it wasn't a shock or anything), but I want to
congratulate whoever decided to put a marvelously sinister spin on
Fantasy Stock Plot #258 by combining it with the idea of a parent
living vicariously through her kid.
As far as the episode's big character development -- Xander's crush on
Buffy -- jury's still out on that. I liked the dynamic as it was and
don't really feel in the mood for the soap opera stuff, but when you
throw hot teens and hormones together, it's pretty much inevitable that
something like this will come up. The "one of the girls" payoff is
unsatisfying since that joke is so overdone, but at least they set it
up so it'd have an extra joke (Xander basically getting his own words
reflected at him). I'm glad Xander and Willow have that magic kind of
purely platonic friendship you see a lot of on TV, since the scenes
between the two of them can let the characters be themselves without
the shyness or whatever else normally keeps them from saying what's in
their minds. While I'm on a Xander-heavy paragraph, I criticized
Brendon for playing him too self-confidently back in "Hellmouth." I
think Joss was thinking more along the lines of "nervous energy" rather
than "life of the party" when creating his extroverted nerd character,
and some scenes in "Witch" get it right. (Others don't.) And the
mop-like haircut helps disguise the actor's blatant cuteness too.
Random short takes:
- Nitpick: Real Driver's Ed cars always give the instructor his own
brake.
- Buffy seems to imply that she's only been Slaying for about a year.
I'd have guessed longer given how otherworld-weary she seems sometimes.
Of course, a year can be a long time when you're fighting for your
life.
- Is Buffy the only one capable of action during an unexpected crisis?
Everyone else just stands there staring, every time. I know she's the
only superhero enrolled at SHS, but still...
- It hadn't occurred to me that "Xander" could be a nickname for
"Alexander"; I'd assumed all the good guys in the show just had
ridiculous names.
- Although Giles really gets to do a lot in this one (including his
first incantation), the show is never _about_ him; it's always the
kids. That's too bad, in a way. There's still plenty of show left,
though, even if we take Ken's advice and try to pretend that each
season could be the last.
- I liked the scenes with Buffy's mom; not so much the big one at he
end, but the earlier stuff keeps her established obliviousness to her
daughter whilst showing that she does feel guilty about it. And the
part with the exhibit implies that she has a life and interests outside
the realm of What's Immediately Relevant To Our Heroes.
- The mirror was deeply lame, but they made up for it with Catherine's
final fate: right out of the _Twilight Zone_ School Of Ironic
Punishments.
I've really talked a lot about "Witch" considering that it'll almost
certainly go down as a fairly inconsequential episode in the long term.
No developments in our big story arcs. I guess Amy could become a
recurring character, but I honestly don't see much use for her after
this. So "Witch" seems like it should technically be forgettable.
Fluff. Not the dark stuff of later seasons that's supposedly so much
more interesting. But with "filler" this good, who cares? It's just a
lot of fun, and the few more hard-hitting moments are on target.
Nicely done.
So....
One-sentence summary: A joy to watch.
AOQ rating: Excellent
[Season One ratings so far:
1) "Welcome To The Hellmouth" - Good
2) "The Harvest" - Decent
3) "Witch" - Excellent]
Matthias Wolf
>BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER
>Season One, Episode 3: "Witch"
First of all, thank you for these reviews. It's been a long time since
I got to read some fresh impressions of the early Buffy years, and I
certainly enjoy yours.
>The nasty stuff underneath the surface of this episode gets coated with
>a veneer of fun;
Yep. There is a common misconception especially about S1 being all fun
and lightweight, whereas the later seasons are assumed to be more
mature and serious. But one of the great things of S1 is exactly that:
they are mostly very playful and funny at the surface, giving a
glimpse at the serious stuff almost in passing without dwelling on it.
If you don't look close enough, you may miss it.
>- The mirror was deeply lame, but they made up for it with Catherine's
>final fate: right out of the _Twilight Zone_ School Of Ironic
>Punishments.
The mirror WOULD be lame if it hadn't been introduced before in
science class. S1 pays a lot attention to these kind of details.
>I've really talked a lot about "Witch" considering that it'll almost
>certainly go down as a fairly inconsequential episode in the long term.
> No developments in our big story arcs.
Advancing the story arc can be done in numerous ways. S1 is more like
a piece of jazz music, there are underlying themes, and there are
certain (genre) formulas to improvise and experiment upon.
>Not the dark stuff of later seasons that's supposedly so much
>more interesting.
What did I say about misconceptions?
--
Matthias Wolf
Carlos Moreno
> So "Witch" seems like it should technically be forgettable.
Please do NOT forget it...
Little by little (and with a little bit of your online friends ;-))
you'll discover that nothing is entirely disconnected and discardable
in the big 120-hour movie that is BtVS :-)
> Not the dark stuff of later seasons that's supposedly so much
> more interesting.
Hmmm, so you are quite spoiled on this... I guess it's more or
less inevitable... Well, as long as you don't know about the
exact details, you'll enjoy the surprises and plot twists...
> But with "filler" this good, who cares?
*Very nice* way to put it... I can not agree more -- though, as
I said, pretty much nothing is 100% filler, but there are
definitely those episodes that are not tightly connected to
the rest of what's going on; if we call those "fillers", then
yes, fillers are typically very good stuff.
> One-sentence summary: A joy to watch.
Agreed.
> AOQ rating: Excellent
Hmmmm, I wouldn't go that far... I rank it as quite good, but
never as excellent (you'll find that if you give an "Excellent"
rating to this one, you'll have to invent no less than 4 or 5
other words to describe some episodes that are coming in the
near and not-so-near future of the show :-))
Keep it up! Your reviews are proving quite enjoyable!!
Cheers,
Carlos
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vague disclaimer
"Arbitrar Of Quality" <tsm...@wildmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> Random short takes:
<snip>
> - Is Buffy the only one capable of action during an unexpected crisis?
> Everyone else just stands there staring, every time. I know she's the
> only superhero enrolled at SHS, but still...
<snip>
> I've really talked a lot about "Witch" considering that it'll almost
> certainly go down as a fairly inconsequential episode in the long term.
> No developments in our big story arcs.
Hold on to these two thoughts. Don't get too uptight about keeping them
at the forefront of your mind or anything (after all, you have 141 more
eps to get through) just....don't lose sight of them.
Excellent review. Every time I watch Witch, it is much better than I
remember it.
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A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend
KenM47
some length, Google eats it rather than posts it. So back to the old
news reader. These posts have inspired me to crack open the old DVDs.
BTW, do NOT listen to the commentaries on the DVDs if you are avoiding
spoilers.
Some miscellaneous things:
1. The music in the cheerleading scenes was also used in the Buffy
movie. While on that subject, even though the show is not really a
"sequel," at times it kind of is. I recommend renting it (or buying -
it's usually cheap, or DL'g if you're into that kind of thing). A big
difference is that the movie Buffy looked to be a senior, IIRC, while
JW wanted the TV version to last in high school longer and put her
back as a sophomore.
2. As far as the opening joke, I still think it's great, and the quick
cut to Buffy with the pompoms is perfectly timed. That's one of the
touches to the show that made it so special, that humor especially
when contrasted with the extremely creepy end shot.
3. The black cat shot, and Catherine's scream (not Willow) make it to
the credits montage and stayed there a long time.
4. The Joyce exchanges are important. This is the first time we see
Buffy talk to Joyce about being a "vampire slayer." Joyce may be
oblivious, but Buffy's interraction with family is important, as is
the missing father theme.
5. The episode is very important in the Buffyverse, IMO. As I think
Carlos suggested, you never really know what is so assume everything
is (although that's kind of a spoiler as when it first aired I never
thought about that stuff; I also had no one to talk to IRL about it
and did not know from the net.
This is the episode where we see that Buffy is not invulnerable and
can be killed, but isn't this time because Giles takes his Watcher's
responsibilities very seriously and has already bonded with his
Slayer. Yes, Buffy comes through to win in the end through smarts, not
just physical strength, BUT it's Giles who really saves the day. You
might want to start your count now of episodes where Giles is knocked
unconscious.
6. Another viewing suggestion: put the subtitles on. It helps. Less
chance of missing lines like Willow's "Did I say that?"
7. As to this ep going Hellmouth other than vampires, you'll find that
many eps are riffs, homages, to various horror flicks and horror
conventions.
8. "Excellent" is a good word. You'll wear it out soon enough and
search for superlatives beyond that.
So, if my earlier post in this thread shows up, sobeit. I think I've
covered what I had in that post. If you find me too spoilerish, let me
know and I'll stop commenting. Meanwhile you have a lot more to enjoy.
Ken (Brooklyn)
David E. Milligan
"Arbitrar Of Quality" <tsm...@wildmail.com> wrote in message
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>A reminder: Please avoid spoilers for later episodes in these review
> threads.
>
>
> BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER
> Season One, Episode 3: "Witch"
> (or "newts, once indigenous to most of North America, were hunted to
> the brink of extinction by witches, who valued them for their
> eyes...")
> Writer: Dana Reston
> Director: Stephen Cragg
>
>
>
>
> When Xander lets us know that he really isn't bothered by school-spirit
> type events as long as they feature scantily-clad chicks, it elicits
> tolerant smiles, because we all know people like that.
>
> Cordelia getting blinded is played mostly for jokes as we gradually
> figure it out, and who can do anything but grin during the early parts
> of Buffy's perky scenes ("juice!")?
As far as the scantily-clad chicks, and Cordelia, this eps points
out (to me anyway) that (referring to Charisma's Playboy spread) CCarpenter
had No NEED of implants !!
>
>
[snip again]
>
> Random short takes:
>
> I've really talked a lot about "Witch" considering that it'll almost
> certainly go down as a fairly inconsequential episode in the long term.
> No developments in our big story arcs. I guess Amy could become a
> recurring character, but I honestly don't see much use for her after
> this. So "Witch" seems like it should technically be forgettable.
> Fluff. Not the dark stuff of later seasons that's supposedly so much
> more interesting. But with "filler" this good, who cares? It's just a
> lot of fun, and the few more hard-hitting moments are on target.
> Nicely done.
>
>
Kind of early in the season for a 'filler' episode, it seems to me.
I would categorize it more of just finding its way through the first season
and seeing what works and what doesn't.
> So....
>
> One-sentence summary: A joy to watch.
>
> AOQ rating: Excellent
>
>
Very good, and entertaining, yes. Excellent -- not quite, as
compared to subsequent eps in subsequent seasons.
> [Season One ratings so far:
> 1) "Welcome To The Hellmouth" - Good
> 2) "The Harvest" - Decent
> 3) "Witch" - Excellent]
>
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David E. Milligan
http://geocities.com/daviderl31/buffy.htm
Don Sample
There is nothing "filler" about 'Witch.' While it doesn't advance the
main season arc, it does lay a lot of the groundwork for the
relationships between the characters, and show how they are starting to
come together as a team. It is also an excellent stand-alone episode.
You can show 'Witch' to anyone who doesn't know Buffy, without having to
spend any time explaining who these characters are, and how they relate
to each other.
In fact, when the series first premiered, it was 'Witch' that they
previewed to the TV critics and such, before the first episode aired, so
that they'd have some idea of what the show was about.
--
Quando omni flunkus moritati
Visit the Buffy Body Count at <http://homepage.mac.com/dsample/>
Stephen Tempest
>While I'm on a Xander-heavy paragraph, I criticized
>Brendon for playing him too self-confidently back in "Hellmouth." I
>think Joss was thinking more along the lines of "nervous energy" rather
>than "life of the party" when creating his extroverted nerd character,
>and some scenes in "Witch" get it right. (Others don't.) And the
>mop-like haircut helps disguise the actor's blatant cuteness too.
I think the key phrase with Xander is 'class clown'. He isn't
extrovert so much as afraid people will laugh at him, so he makes a
fool of himself first so that they'll laugh at him *deliberately*.
The downside to this is that nobody (except Buffy and Willow) takes
him seriously.
>- Buffy seems to imply that she's only been Slaying for about a year.
>I'd have guessed longer given how otherworld-weary she seems sometimes.
> Of course, a year can be a long time when you're fighting for your
>life.
Have you seen the original 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' film, or do you
know the plot? While the TV show was written so that you wouldn't
have to be familiar with the film - and it diverged from its plot in
some important ways - it was to some extent a sequel.
Stephen
Bill Reid
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> OK, I'm going to try this again. Seems every time I write something of
> some length, Google eats it rather than posts it.
Those bastards are trying to take over the world!!!
Whoops, maybe I shouldn't have called Google(TM) "bastards",
considering they trying to take over the world...
>
> 7. As to this ep going Hellmouth other than vampires, you'll find that
> many eps are riffs, homages, to various horror flicks and horror
> conventions.
>
Uh, yeah, I hope it's not too spoilerish to reveal that the original
"writer's bible" for the show was to take your favorite horror movie
and your worst high school experience and kind of mush them together...
One thing that nobody has noted here is that this was a "topical"
episode concerning a national news story, the Texas Cheerleader
Mom Murder Plot. About a year before they made this episode,
some girl's mother in Texas plotted to kill another girl who had
displaced her daughter in the high school cheerleading squad.
So they "mushed" together that news story about vicarious
parental ambition run amuck with some supernatural elements,
and BAM!: an archetypical "Buffy" episode...
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William Ernest Reid
KenM47
Good point. Hadn't thought of that news story.
BTW, is that "bible" thing online anywhere?
Ken (Brooklyn)
Mark Nobles
> Have you seen the original 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' film, or do you
> know the plot? While the TV show was written so that you wouldn't
> have to be familiar with the film - and it diverged from its plot in
> some important ways - it was to some extent a sequel.
Not really a sequel, since it changes some real fundamental things. For
instance, in the movie, somehow there is only one Slayer and one
Watcher
and they keep being reincarnated together. Which should mean that there
is no Slayer for 16 years after one is killed. In the TV show, as soon
as one dies another is called. And there are multiple Watchers.
kenm47
1. Buffy trivia - the music used in most of the cheerleading scenes was
also used in the Buffy movie
FWIW - while the show isn't really a sequel to the movie, the movie is
referenced in various ways, including the cheerleading. While some hate
the movie, others don't. I personally enjoyed it and think it's
worthwhile seeing. Cheap enough to buy if you can't find it to rent.
It's one of the reasons that line about slaying for a year is in there.
Also, there's a trailer that was aired before WttH and TH aired (that
is not on the S1 DVDs), that I don't think anyone has seen since. I'm
going to search the net for it myself - it helped as a bridge between
the movie and the show as well, and provided a little Slayer backstory
and history.
2. Both the black cat and Catherine's scream (not Willow) make it into
the opening credits for a good long while.
3. The banter with Joyce is very significant. This episode is the first
time Buffy we ever see Buffy explicitly talk to Joyce about being a
"vampire slayer" even if Joyce seems oblivious, that's important IMO.
As someone else said, you never quite know what is foreshadowing in the
show. Store everything away, BUT DO NOT listen to the commentaries on
the DVDs unless you want serious spoilage.
4. The Giles business is perhaps the most important part of the episode
as a set up for much in the future. We see there can be situations
where Buffy is actually in peril. In this case, but for Giles
intervention, Buffy dies. Of course, Buffy does save the day in the
end, but she wouldn't have felt "better" but for Giles, and she gets to
"win" by wit not just physically overpowering her enemy. It's not just
incidental, it's pivotal. BTW, (I don't think this is a spoiler) you
may also wish to now begin a count on episodes where Giles gets knocked
unconscious.
5. The dialog is still crisp even after all this time. I suggest
watching with subtitles on. It helps me catch even what seems to be
little throwaways, like Willow's "Did I say that?"
It also suggests that Buffy, through her quips and what not, is a LOT
smarter than just a "chosen" Bimbo forced into hero's garb.
6. That Catherine final punishment was very creepy, what with also the
sound of her muffled cries. The shows mix of creepy yet tender yet
often very funny is also set up by this ep.
7. Yes, the ep IS excellent. However, greater excellence is to come.
If you find any of the above overly spoilerish, let me know and I'll
stop commenting.
Ken (Brooklyn)
kenm47
1. Buffy trivia - the music used in most of the cheerleading scenes was
also used in the Buffy movie
FWIW - while the show isn't really a sequel to the movie, the movie is
referenced in various ways, including the cheerleading. While some hate
the movie, others don't. I personally enjoyed it and think it's
worthwhile seeing. Cheap enough to buy if you can't find it to rent.
It's one of the reasons that line about slaying for a year is in there.
Also, there's a trailer that was aired before WttH and TH aired (that
is not on the S1 DVDs), that I don't think anyone has seen since. I'm
going to search the net for it myself - it helped as a bridge between
the movie and the show as well, and provided a little Slayer backstory
and history.
2. Both the black cat and Catherine's scream (not Willow) make it into
the opening credits for a good long while.
3. The banter with Joyce is very significant. This episode is the first
time we ever see Buffy explicitly talk to Joyce about being a "vampire
Arbitrar Of Quality
> I think the key phrase with Xander is 'class clown'. He isn't
> extrovert so much as afraid people will laugh at him, so he makes a
> fool of himself first so that they'll laugh at him *deliberately*.
> The downside to this is that nobody (except Buffy and Willow) takes
> him seriously.
I'm not so sure, since we do see times when he seems very interested in
what other people think of him.
> Have you seen the original 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' film, or do you
> know the plot? While the TV show was written so that you wouldn't
> have to be familiar with the film - and it diverged from its plot in
> some important ways - it was to some extent a sequel.
No, I haven't.
-AOQ
Carlos Moreno
>>OK, I'm going to try this again. Seems every time I write something of
>>some length, Google eats it rather than posts it.
>
> Those bastards are trying to take over the world!!!
>
> Whoops, maybe I shouldn't have called Google(TM) "bastards",
> considering they're trying to take over the world...
I wonder if even you are not aware of the more brilliant interpretation
of what you just said... :-)
Still, you just instantly moved to the top of my list as the "most
brilliant thing I've heard this year" -- and yes, I know I'm sounding
sarcastic, as it's only 9 days so far... But no, really! Honest!
I'm *not* being sarcastic...
Hint: The world today is owned by Microsoft (*incompetent bastards*,
with emphasis on incompetent *and also* on bastards)...
Hint 2: Wouldn't "thank God" be a more appropriate term rather than
"bastards"?
:-)
Carlos
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>
> Also, there's a trailer that was aired before WttH and TH aired (that
> is not on the S1 DVDs), that I don't think anyone has seen since. I'm
> going to search the net for it myself - it helped as a bridge between
> the movie and the show as well, and provided a little Slayer backstory
> and history.
>
Is this trailer the one that mentions massacres throughout the century that
mysteriously stopped with the appearance of a girl?
Because I have that one saved somewhere on disk. (if that's the one, I can
try to post it)
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MBB
gorgeous' :lol:
Of course, only I started watching 3 years after the origianl airdate and
don;t live in the US, so it's not surprising I missed that on the news.
"Bill Reid" <horme...@happyhealthy.net> wrote in
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>>.
> One thing that nobody has noted here is that this was a "topical"
> episode concerning a national news story, the Texas Cheerleader
> Mom Murder Plot. About a year before they made this episode,
> some girl's mother in Texas plotted to kill another girl who had
> displaced her daughter in the high school cheerleading squad.
> ..
>
> ---
> William Ernest Reid
>
>
>
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MBB <mbbth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "kenm47" <ken...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
> news:1136655573....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> Is this trailer the one that mentions massacres throughout the century that
> mysteriously stopped with the appearance of a girl?
> Because I have that one saved somewhere on disk. (if that's the one, I can
> try to post it)
<cough>
Yes please
</cough>
kenm47
3 and 5 minutes.
Ken (Brooklyn)
MBB
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> That could be it MBB. My rec is that the WB intro ran somewhere between
> 3 and 5 minutes.
>
> Ken (Brooklyn)
>
ok, i'll try to find it, the problem will probebly the posting, i've never
tried it yet.
Can I post binaries to this group, or do I have to do that at another
group?
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kenm47
group? "
I believe it's a no-no to post bianries here. There used to be a Buffy
multimedia group, but I'm not familiar with its current set-up or FAQ.
Ken (Brooklyn)
MBB
alt.Binaries.multimedia.buffy-v-slayer
the file is called
BuffyPromo1997 - Other Slayers.mpeg - File 2 of 2 - Buffy Promo - Other
Slayers.mpeg (~~/10)
(10 parts) for 3 MB
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Very witty -- and, I think, original? I've never read it elsewhere.
As for the quality of the episode "The Witch," it's easier for me now
to see what was good about it, but when it first aired in 1997 I hated
it so much that it almost stopped me watching the series forever. In
fact, I think I missed several episodes after "The Witch" because I was
so disgusted.
The reason I felt that way was because I felt a distaste for any
subject-matter that was distinctively high-schoolish, and there's
nothing more distinctively high-schoolish than cheerleading. I hated
high school and the whole "rah-rah" pep rally attitude, and I spent 20
or more years after high school avoiding movies, TV shows, novels,
etc., that depicted kids in high school.
Why did I start watching BtVS at all? Because of the word "vampire" in
the title. I wanted stories about vampires, not stories about high
school. I could tolerate the high school setting if it wasn't rubbed
in my face too much. But I was much happier with BtVS when it moved on
from the high school years (that isn't too spoilerish to say on this
thread is it? AOQ knows the series lasted seven years and the
characters aged, right?).
But over the years I've somehow lost my aversion to high-school based
stories, maybe because my son is now in high school himself, and maybe
because the talent of people like Joss Whedon and Rob Thomas convinced
me that high school can be as worthy a setting and subject-matter as
anything else can be. And so in middle age I've become the world's
greatest devotee of "Veronica Mars," a show I would have avoided like
the plague just a few years ago! Go figure.
Clairel
George W Harris
:ok, I just successfully posted it to
:
:alt.Binaries.multimedia.buffy-v-slayer
:the file is called
:BuffyPromo1997 - Other Slayers.mpeg - File 2 of 2 - Buffy Promo - Other
:Slayers.mpeg (~~/10)
:
:(10 parts) for 3 MB
You posted a .par2 file, but no .par volumes.
Could you post those? Only 9 of the 10 made it to this
corner of the interweb.
:
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kenm47
Thank you.
Ken (Brooklyn)
William George Ferguson
alt.binaries.multimedia.buffy-v-slayer would be the appropriate group, and
it's far from moribund. In fact, checking it real quickly thare are about
... uhhh, never mind, I see you found it :)
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He fed the Pack
A little
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>ok, I just successfully posted it to
>
>alt.Binaries.multimedia.buffy-v-slayer
>the file is called
>BuffyPromo1997 - Other Slayers.mpeg - File 2 of 2 - Buffy Promo - Other
>Slayers.mpeg (~~/10)
>
>(10 parts) for 3 MB
That was nice, but it's the cut down promo used for the Sunday repeat of
the premiere. the full one that showed before the premiere the preceeding
Monday night had four more clips, it started with a string of grisly
murders at the Boston shipyards in 1845 which ended when a young girl
showed up, then Lucy Hanover in Virginia in 1865, then a travelling female
blacksmith in Oklahoma territory in 1893, then Florence Gilbert in
Virginia City Wyoming in 1897, then Arabella Gish in Brooklyn in 1912,
then the Slayer in Chicago near Union Station in 1927.
MBB
Pars posted now.
George W Harris <gha...@mundsprung.com> wrote in
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> On 14 Jan 2006 02:51:19 GMT, MBB <mbb> wrote:
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> You posted a .par2 file, but no .par volumes.
> Could you post those? Only 9 of the 10 made it to this
> corner of the interweb.
>:
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i've probebly trown it away thinking it was a double.
But it might still be out there on the kaazanetworks.
William George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:rk5hs15n9qph951fd...@4ax.com:
> ...
kenm47
that one
i've probebly trown it away thinking it was a double.
But it might still be out there on the kaazanetworks. "
Hey! Half a loaf and all that!
Thanks again.
Ken (Brooklyn)
PS: I guess my Agent 3 newsreader sewed it all together, because it
came down as a single mpeg file to me. Don't know nothing about "par."
George W Harris
:Sorry
:Pars posted now.
Thanks!
:
:George W Harris <gha...@mundsprung.com> wrote in
:news:ld1hs1dluglu6on3j...@4ax.com:
:
:> On 14 Jan 2006 02:51:19 GMT, MBB <mbb> wrote:
:>
:> You posted a .par2 file, but no .par volumes.
:> Could you post those? Only 9 of the 10 made it to this
:> corner of the interweb.
:>:
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vague disclaimer
> Sorry, it's all I've got.
Hey, it was way cool. Thanks for that.