SMG on Rosie (Freddie Prinze, Jr. is NOT nice)
nimue
I have to say, I was not impressed with her fiance, Freddie Prinze, Jr. He
was so, well, crude and immature. The disgusting joke he played on Mathew
Lillard, the poor guy who played Shaggy, really made him seem incredibly
insensitive and stupid and even a bit cruel. He was like a twelve year old.
He did not seem intelligent or kind, and I was surprised. I wondered what
SMG likes in him. She seemed friendly and charming and very nice -- I have
NO clue what she sees in him. Did I catch him on an off day? I know almost
nothing about the guy, but based on what I saw on Rosie, he seems sort of
hateful and heartless. I would like to think that SMG deserves a lot better
than what I saw of her fiance on the Rosie Show. He is very handsome, but
that is ALL he has going for him, if what I saw on the Rosie show is any
indication of the type of person he is. If you want to know the disgusting
joke he played, I will put it here, but it's really gross. Apparently, he
thought it would be really funny to sneak into Mathew Lillard's trailer,
and, well, defecate in his toilet (it's a waterless toiler, like the kind
they have on airplanes, I guess), not flush it,just LEAVE it there, then
turn the heat WAY up, and leave for the weekend. Obviously, when Lillard
came back to his trailer and opened the door, he was almost overwhelmed by
the noxious smell. Since he couldn't handle it -- and because he is a star
in Scooby Doo -- some poor underling on the set had to go in the trailer,
and deal with clean-up. Freddie Prinze, Jr. has done this to Lillard 3
times (they have been in a few movies together)!!!! He was laughing when he
was telling this story, and all I could think was how juvenile and base and
mean it was. It was SO inconsiderate to do that to Lillard, and also
inconsiderate to do that to the low-level employee he knew would have to
clean up his mess. Who is he that he thinks it's funny that other people
literally have to clean up his shit? I was totally disgusted with Freddie
Prinze, Jr. What a total jerk.
Rowan Hawthorn
"nimue" <cup_o...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The first time you can put down to a silly prank. The second time is just
rank stupidity. After that, the proper thing would be to clean the toilet
with FP's face.
--
Rowan Hawthorn
Boozy Smurf (aka Andrew Hatch/790)
--
Help control the idiot population. Have your Hicks spayed or neutered.
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Daniel Damouth
news:vXTO8.32398$Dz1.3...@twister.nyc.rr.com:
> I saw SMG and the cast of Scooby Doo on The Rosie O'Donnell show
> Friday, and I have to say, I was not impressed with her fiance,
> Freddie Prinze, Jr. He was so, well, crude and immature. The
> disgusting joke he played on Mathew Lillard, the poor guy who played
> Shaggy, really made him seem incredibly insensitive and stupid and
> even a bit cruel.
It's pretty hard to judge the appropriateness of practical jokes between
people who have been friends for such a long time.
Dan Damouth
paulcs
wrote:
>I saw SMG and the cast of Scooby Doo on The Rosie O'Donnell show Friday, and
>I have to say, I was not impressed with her fiance, Freddie Prinze, Jr. He
He is Satanic. I've been saying that for the better part of a year. I
don't think I've mentioned his name here without insulting him.
In his defense, however, they're old friends. This is FPJr.'s fourth
film with Mathew Lillard, and I think Mr. Lillard started it.
No excuse, however. Freddie Prinze, Jr. was was hellspawned.
Paul
Klyfix
<rowan_hawthorn_at_hotmail_dot_com> writes:
Huh. The stunt seems so extreme as to be, well, nuts actually. I mean,
goodness, it's a low class vulgar bit of senseless grossness. Young
Mr. Prinze would seem to be, well, a spoiled brat who has yet to be
cut down to size.
V. S. Greene : kly...@aol.com : Boston, near Arkham...
Eckzylon: http://m1.aol.com/klyfix/eckzylon.html
"Vampire is not a career choice"-The Simpsons
Dan Armato
> Freddie's a jerk, and Sarah's a bitch. Match made in heaven.
>
> --
> Help control the idiot population. Have your Hicks spayed or neutered.
HaHaHa...very funny. How long did it take for you to come up with that
one?
Sarah is most definitely NOT a bitch. In fact, she seems to be, from
what I have heard and from personal experience, to be a very nice and
very sweet person. Why is it that when an attractive, successful,
talented woman has her own personality and is not afraid to give her
opinion, she is a "bitch"?
How well do you know her? On what evidence do you base your
broad-brush stroke opinion? I'm not saying that you don't have a right
to your opinion (as divorced from reality as it seems to be), but if I
am correct, you are probably jumping to conclusions based on a few
dubious internet stories and posts written by highly biased and
jealous people who have an agenda to promote, regardless of fact.
Maybe you watched Cruel Intentions" on TV and are having trouble
separating Kathryn from Sarah? I don't know.
Help control the idiot population. Have your "Andrew Hatch" spayed or
neutered.
-Dan
Who will defend Sarah as well as he defends Buffy.
nimue
"Daniel Damouth" <dam...@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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That may be true -- but Lillard was on the Rosie show, too, and he did NOT
seem happy. He didn't hug Prinze when he came out, although Prinze tried to
hug him. He said a few things that indicated his displeasure. Also, no
matter how the two of them felt about the joke, the fact remains that some
ordinary person had to do the clean-up, and I don't see how anyone could
justify that.
Rose
>From: "nimue" cup_o...@yahoo.com
>Date: 6/16/2002 8:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <112P8.13628$QD2.3...@twister.nyc.rr.com>
I don't see why whoever was in charge of who does what didn't make Prinze do
the cleanup himself.
Rose
Faith/Willow in 2003!
Paulfxfoley
>It's pretty hard to judge the appropriateness of practical jokes between
>people who have been friends for such a long time.
It's not that hard.
Lillard is an immature jerk also; doesn't excuse the behaviour of either of
'em. The problem with a lot of these young actors is they make big $ as
teenagers, they get away with anything, and consequently they never grow up.
Same thing happens to a lot of professional jocks.
Looking at the bright side, I give the Sarah / Freddie relationship six months,
max.
--Paul;
-------------------------------------
On her white Breast a sparkling Cross she wore / That Jews migh kiss, and
Infidels adore.
--Alexander Pope
Boozy Smurf (aka Andrew Hatch/790)
"Dan Armato" <daniel...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790\)" <jhtcn...@execulink.com> wrote in
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> > Freddie's a jerk, and Sarah's a bitch. Match made in heaven.
> >
> > --
> > Help control the idiot population. Have your Hicks spayed or neutered.
>
>
>
> HaHaHa...very funny. How long did it take for you to come up with that
> one?
>
> Sarah is most definitely NOT a bitch. In fact, she seems to be, from
> what I have heard and from personal experience, to be a very nice and
> very sweet person. Why is it that when an attractive, successful,
> talented woman has her own personality and is not afraid to give her
> opinion, she is a "bitch"?
>
> How well do you know her? On what evidence do you base your
> broad-brush stroke opinion? I'm not saying that you don't have a right
> to your opinion (as divorced from reality as it seems to be), but if I
> am correct, you are probably jumping to conclusions based on a few
> dubious internet stories and posts written by highly biased and
> jealous people who have an agenda to promote, regardless of fact.
> Maybe you watched Cruel Intentions" on TV and are having trouble
> separating Kathryn from Sarah? I don't know.
what's funny is you flame me for drawing conclusions from interviews and
stories when you've done the exact same thing here.
nimue
"Rose" <fyl...@aol.comspam> wrote in message
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Well, that is what would happen in any good public school (right before he
was suspended), but people like Freddie Prinze, Jr. get special treatment
because they are *stars.* They don't have to behave the same way we mere
mortals do. Athletes get away with all kinds of abuse because they are
generating tons of money, and stars do, too. Can you imagine the director
telling him to clean up his own mess? He would probably storm off to his
trailer, and refuse to come out (unless Lillard had returned the favor),
thus costing the film enormous amounts of money while everyone waited for
its immature star to return to the set. It's just easier to make some
assistant do the dirty work. Is it too cruel for me to hope that Freddie
Prinze, Jr. get what he deserves by learning the lessons he so obviously
needs to learn?
nimue
>
>
>
> Rose
> Faith/Willow in 2003!
Sharon Thomas
SMG acts up to the press as she knows it's a good career move. NOT saying
that she is probably a nice person.
BUT Freddie is a bloke - they do stupid things to each other whether they
are loaded or not
AND if you could get someone else to clean up your S**T and you
didn't --Then you would be the fool.
Also Miss sweetness and light probably likes Freddie for who he is when he's
with her and vice versa. THAT you will never know about
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nimue
"Sharon Thomas" <Sharon....@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> How do we know?
>
> SMG acts up to the press as she knows it's a good career move. NOT saying
> that she is probably a nice person.
> BUT Freddie is a bloke - they do stupid things to each other whether they
> are loaded or not
>
> AND if you could get someone else to clean up your S**T and you
> didn't --Then you would be the fool.
Perhaps -- but if you did that to another person -- if you made another
person clean up after you like that -- if you exploited your power like
hat -- you would be the biggest f****head in the world. Give me a decent
human being any day, and keep your losers who are not "foolish" enough to
control their own behavior, or at least to take responsibility for it.
nimue
Buddy Hayes
> I have to say, I was not impressed with her fiance, Freddie Prinze, Jr. He
> was so, well, crude and immature. The disgusting joke he played on Mathew
> Lillard, the poor guy who played Shaggy, really made him seem incredibly
> insensitive and stupid and even a bit cruel. He was like a twelve year old.
> He did not seem intelligent or kind, and I was surprised. I wondered what
> SMG likes in him. She seemed friendly and charming and very nice -- I have
> NO clue what she sees in him.
He's reportedly hung like Johnny Wadd. Plus, he's got lots of money,
women like that.
Did I catch him on an off day? I know almost
> nothing about the guy, but based on what I saw on Rosie, he seems sort of
> hateful and heartless. I would like to think that SMG deserves a lot better
> than what I saw of her fiance on the Rosie Show. He is very handsome, but
> that is ALL he has going for him, if what I saw on the Rosie show is any
> indication of the type of person he is. If you want to know the disgusting
> joke he played, I will put it here, but it's really gross. Apparently, he
> thought it would be really funny to sneak into Mathew Lillard's trailer,
> and, well, defecate in his toilet (it's a waterless toiler, like the kind
> they have on airplanes, I guess), not flush it,just LEAVE it there, then
> turn the heat WAY up, and leave for the weekend. Obviously, when Lillard
> came back to his trailer and opened the door, he was almost overwhelmed by
> the noxious smell. Since he couldn't handle it -- and because he is a star
> in Scooby Doo -- some poor underling on the set had to go in the trailer,
> and deal with clean-up. Freddie Prinze, Jr. has done this to Lillard 3
> times (they have been in a few movies together)!!!! He was laughing when he
> was telling this story, and all I could think was how juvenile and base and
> mean it was. It was SO inconsiderate to do that to Lillard, and also
> inconsiderate to do that to the low-level employee he knew would have to
> clean up his mess. Who is he that he thinks it's funny that other people
> literally have to clean up his shit?
He's a moooviieeeee star.
I was totally disgusted with Freddie
> Prinze, Jr. What a total jerk.
In all fairness, it's just one guy ribbing his buddy. And women love
jerks.
Buddy
Shorty
wrote:
>He's reportedly hung like Johnny Wadd. Plus, he's got lots of money,
>women like that.
>
I really dont want to know how you came across that little piece of
information.
>
>In all fairness, it's just one guy ribbing his buddy. And women love
>jerks.
>
>Buddy
I think you hit the nail on the head with that last comment. Women do
love jackasses. They see a jackass through clouded glasses. 'It must
means he has hidden depths'. Nope hes just a jackass.
Buddy Hayes
<notrea...@blah.hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 16 Jun 2002 17:35:38 -0700, bhay...@netzero.net (Buddy Hayes)
>wrote:
>
>>He's reportedly hung like Johnny Wadd. Plus, he's got lots of money,
>>women like that.
>>
>I really dont want to know how you came across that little piece of
>information.
Someone I know saw a pic that was flattering in that regard.
Buddy
Aethelrede
Klyfix wrote in message <20020616024155...@mb-fw.aol.com>...
Freddy Prinze is what Hollywood sees as "Talent", aka "Money in The
Bank". He can thus do no wrong in that company town up to and including
forcible rape of a minor of either sex, or murder(read up on Hollywood
History if you doubt that).
Having some illegal Mexican immigrant clean up his shit, either
literally or metaphorically, is nothing: it's why LA county refuses to let
county employees assist the feds in enforcing immigration laws. Someone has
to do the shit-work, and there are always illegals willing to do it to put
their kids through college.
paulcs
wrote:
>
>"Sharon Thomas" <Sharon....@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>news:aeiv0v$qq9$1...@helle.btinternet.com...
>> How do we know?
>>
>> SMG acts up to the press as she knows it's a good career move. NOT saying
>> that she is probably a nice person.
>> BUT Freddie is a bloke - they do stupid things to each other whether they
>> are loaded or not
>>
>> AND if you could get someone else to clean up your S**T and you
>> didn't --Then you would be the fool.
>
>Perhaps -- but if you did that to another person -- if you made another
>person clean up after you like that -- if you exploited your power like
>hat -- you would be the biggest f****head in the world. Give me a decent
>human being any day, and keep your losers who are not "foolish" enough to
>control their own behavior, or at least to take responsibility for it.
>nimue
>
I cannot believe I am about to defend Freddie Prinze, Jr.
The clean-up involved flushing the toilet. That's it. FPJr did his
business in Mathew Lillard's bathroom. He just didn't flush. This is,
I think, their fourth film together, and it was in retaliation for Mr.
Lillard doing the old fart and run trick in his trailer during a
previous film. The grim scenario of some hapless PA cleaning up for
FPJr. just didn't happen.
Having said that, he's still evil incarnate. :)
Paul
paulcs
<aethe...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
[snip]
>>cut down to size.
>
> Freddy Prinze is what Hollywood sees as "Talent", aka "Money in The
>Bank". He can thus do no wrong in that company town up to and including
>forcible rape of a minor of either sex, or murder(read up on Hollywood
>History if you doubt that).
> Having some illegal Mexican immigrant clean up his shit, either
>literally or metaphorically, is nothing: it's why LA county refuses to let
>county employees assist the feds in enforcing immigration laws. Someone has
>to do the shit-work, and there are always illegals willing to do it to put
>their kids through college.
Gawd. This *didn't* happen. Freddie Prinze, Jr. took a crap in Mathew
Lillard's toilet and didn't flush. It was in retaliation for something
that went on between the two of them in a previous film. No PA or
"Mexican" was called in to clean up. The cleanup involve flushing the
toilet.
Paul
Nick Rheinwald
> joke he played, I will put it here, but it's really gross. Apparently, he
> thought it would be really funny to sneak into Mathew Lillard's trailer,
> and, well, defecate in his toilet (it's a waterless toiler, like the kind
> they have on airplanes, I guess), not flush it,just LEAVE it there, then
> turn the heat WAY up, and leave for the weekend.
Actually, that's a very common prank in the entertainment industry.
(Sadly, I'm not kidding.) What's surprising is that it would be
discussed on a family show like Rosie.
--Nick
TomTraubertsBlues
>
> >It's pretty hard to judge the appropriateness of practical jokes between
> >people who have been friends for such a long time.
>
>
> It's not that hard.
>
> Lillard is an immature jerk also; doesn't excuse the behaviour of either
of
> 'em. The problem with a lot of these young actors is they make big $ as
> teenagers, they get away with anything, and consequently they never grow
up.
> Same thing happens to a lot of professional jocks.
>
> Looking at the bright side, I give the Sarah / Freddie relationship six
months,
> max.
>
>
> --Paul
You already lose then. I think they are going on 3 years now.
Mike
Paul Hammond
> He did not seem intelligent or kind, and I was surprised. I wondered what
> SMG likes in him. She seemed friendly and charming and very nice -- I
have
> NO clue what she sees in him.
Maybe he's just a demon in the sack?
Anyway, I have heard of much better running gags in an
interview show where Kevin Spacey and Judi Dench were
both on the same show, and talked about "The Shipping
News" amongst other things.
Going back to when Dame Judi appeared in a stage show
with another actor (I forgot who, sorry) there was a prop - a
pair of gloves, that had some significance to the plot, and for
some reason this other actor started to tease Judi by
putting these gloves in the wrong scenes, and in the
wrong places - they would basically turn up everywhere - and
this got to be a running gag, that one or other of them would
take these glove and put them in view in whatever work
they did together after that.
Anyhow, Kevin Spacey had appeared with this other guy in
something, and he had heard that Spacey was due to
appear in Shipping News with Judi Dench, and so he told
him this story, and gave him the gloves, because she wouldn't
be expecting that.
So, there is a scene in the movie where Judi's character has
to go to the outside toilet of the family house in Newfie - and
somehow Spacey had attached them to a stick, so that
when she went into the toilet, these gloves suddenly appeared
out of the toilet. (Cue raucous laughter).
Now *that's* a *real* actors joke for you!
Paul
BTR1701
<sFcP8.40781$LC3.3...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Aethelrede" <aethe...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Freddy Prinze is what Hollywood sees as "Talent", aka "Money in The
> Bank". He can thus do no wrong in that company town up to and including
> forcible rape of a minor of either sex, or murder(read up on Hollywood
> History if you doubt that).
> Having some illegal Mexican immigrant clean up his shit, either
> literally or metaphorically, is nothing
Oh, please! Whoever had to clean up this mess only had to flush the
toilet. The real question is why Lillard was such a prima donna that he
couldn't push a little lever himself and needed someone else to do it
for him.
lab~rat
puked:
It would have been excellent revenge if Lillard convinced Rosie to
take a dump in Freddie's trailer..
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
lab~rat
<snip>
> I was totally disgusted with Freddie
>Prinze, Jr. What a total jerk.
>
While Freddie is a jerk, clearly you people can see why SMG is
attracted to him. No doubt that this type of abuse makes its way into
their relationship, and in time it will no doubt accelerate into a
serious situation of emotional and/or physical abuse.
That being said, bear in mind the crummy relationship Sarah's mother
had with her father, and consequently, Sarah's poor relationship with
him. It's a fact that women that come from homes with abusive parents
tend to involve themselves in similar relationships. It should come
as no surprise that SMG is heading in that same direction.
The scary part is that FPj is showing his true colors before they are
even married. Maybe if all her fans sent her a postcard simply
stating "Remember OJ..."
lab~rat
puked:
Wasn't FPj's dad a Mexican immigrant, for the record? Or Puerto
Rican?
Jason E. Vines
"lab~rat" <ch...@cheese.net> wrote in message
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OMFG, that's abhorrent. Are you seriously comparing a stupid and
immature person to a double-murderer?
lab~rat
<jason...@charter.net> puked:
I think what I am implying is clear. If you have something to add
that would support your position that FPj does not have an abusive
personality, I would welcome it.
If you have something to add that would suggest that women that come
from abusive families don't gravitate toward abusive relationships, I
would welcome it.
If you have something that shows that SMG's relationship with her
father was anything but what I imply, please enlighten me.
If you can show me that OJ wasn't abusive, well, you know where I'm
going...
Not to mention, the two have another beautiful family trait in common:
Both daddies offed themselves. Sounds like a healthy relationship to
me...
Tom Breton
> "nimue" <cup_o...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:vXTO8.32398$Dz1.3...@twister.nyc.rr.com:
>
> > I saw SMG and the cast of Scooby Doo on The Rosie O'Donnell show
> > Friday, and I have to say, I was not impressed with her fiance,
> > Freddie Prinze, Jr. He was so, well, crude and immature. The
> > disgusting joke he played on Mathew Lillard, the poor guy who played
> > Shaggy, really made him seem incredibly insensitive and stupid and
> > even a bit cruel.
>
> It's pretty hard to judge the appropriateness of practical jokes between
> people who have been friends for such a long time.
I didn't get that impression. They seemed about as close as SMG and
Susan Lucci. }:)
And that's not counting the repeated rumors that SMG&FPJR were at odds
with the rest of the Scooby cast. Of course, rumors, grain of salt
and all that.
--
Tom Breton at panix.com, username tehom. http://www.panix.com/~tehom
BTVS geek code, http://panix.com/~tehom/btvs-geek-code.html
ANIM8Rfsk
Um. Probably not. We had *telemarketers* in an office in my building for 2
months before they were evicted for doing stuff like this. The clean up did
NOT involved 'flushing' - too much stuff sitting for too long. The clean up
involved people with rubber gloves up past their elbows and buckers. Once we
had to call a special place that cleans up after murders and stuff to deal with
it.
William George Ferguson
>On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 07:44:59 -0700, BTR1701 <BTR...@ix.netcom.com>
>puked:
>
>>In article
>><sFcP8.40781$LC3.3...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>>"Aethelrede" <aethe...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Freddy Prinze is what Hollywood sees as "Talent", aka "Money in The
>>> Bank". He can thus do no wrong in that company town up to and including
>>> forcible rape of a minor of either sex, or murder(read up on Hollywood
>>> History if you doubt that).
>>
>>> Having some illegal Mexican immigrant clean up his shit, either
>>> literally or metaphorically, is nothing
>>
>>Oh, please! Whoever had to clean up this mess only had to flush the
>>toilet. The real question is why Lillard was such a prima donna that he
>>couldn't push a little lever himself and needed someone else to do it
>>for him.
And probably spray some Pine-Sol in the trailer.
>Wasn't FPj's dad a Mexican immigrant, for the record? Or Puerto
>Rican?
Freddie Prinze was an immigrant in the same sense that I am (and
probably that you are).
Freddie Prinze's real name was Frederick Preutzel (he must have
changed it, since FPJr's legal name is Prinze), his father was Jewish
of Hunagarian descent, and his mother was Puerto Rican. He was born
in New York City. His wife (FPJr's mother) was of Italian descent (on
both sides).
So FPJr is a typical American, by descent he's half Italian, a quarter
Hungarian and a quarter Puerto Rican. He's a minimum of four
generations removed from any immigrant ancestors.
--
"Oh Buffy, you really do need to have
every square inch of your ass kicked."
- Willow Rosenberg
lab~rat
<william.geo...@domail.maricopa.edu> puked:
>Freddie Prinze was an immigrant in the same sense that I am (and
>probably that you are).
For the record, I'm Native American, not that it matters.
William George Ferguson
>>Freddie Prinze was an immigrant in the same sense that I am (and
>>probably that you are).
lab~rat <ch...@cheese.net> wrote:
>For the record, I'm Native American, not that it matters.
That, of course, just means it's a few more generations removed since
your ancestors immigrated across the Siberian land bridge.
Everybody in the Americas is an immigrant if you go back far enough.
ANIM8Rfsk
<< That, of course, just means it's a few more generations removed since
your ancestors immigrated across the Siberian land bridge.
Everybody in the Americas is an immigrant if you go back far enough. >>
That 'maricopa' in your address 'maricopa county'?
You ever get sick of hearing how the 'native americans' around here are native
because they evolved independently from the rest of humanity, and the 'land
bridge' is just something nasty old white men made up?
gah
William George Ferguson
wrote:
Can't say I've ever heard it, unless you mean religion. In that case,
Corn Woman and Coyote aren't any sillier than Adam and Eve.
And yes, I live and work where the temperature is a balmy 43 degrees
(Celsius that is).
nimue
> lab~rat >:-)
> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Did you know it's possible to be both?
nimue
Well, from what I understand, these toilets were not your usual
water-in-the-toilet type of commode. They were like the kind you find
in airplanes. Anything left there for a period of time would, well,
(oh, this is so gross) harden, and have to be scrubbed away.
nimue
It DID happen -- according to Freddie himself. He said on the Rosie
show that Lillard coudn't stand the smell, so they had to get someone
to clean up for him. As I have said now 3 times -- the toilet in the
trailer had no water in it. Apparently, it was one of those types of
toilet that you find in airplanes, that only introduce water when you
flush.
>
> Having said that, he's still evil incarnate. :)
You may not be far wrong -- he is definitely heartless enough, but I
think he might be too stupid.
>
> Paul
Jason E. Vines
Why don't you offer something aside from an immature prank that
indicates he has one? The burden of proof is always on the person who's
making a charge.
> If you have something to add that would suggest that women that come
> from abusive families don't gravitate toward abusive relationships, I
> would welcome it.
Do you have any evidence this is what's happening in SMG's case?
> If you have something that shows that SMG's relationship with her
> father was anything but what I imply, please enlighten me.
SMG's relationship with her father has nothing to do with her
relationship to FP Jr. (aside from some potential Freudian psychobabble
garbage).
lab~rat >:-)
What I get sick of hearing is all of the self-rituous
hypenated-Americans bragging about their stupid heritage like anyone
with a modicum of intelligence gives a tinker's damn.
--
paulcs
This isn't the first time he's done it, and it was done to "create a
stink", and not a mess. I honestly don't know about the logistics of
cleaning it up.
In any case, it's against my nature to defend FPJr., as he is
currently defiling The Chosen One. ;-)
Please carry on besmirching his character. :)
Paul
lab~rat >:-)
lab~rat >:-)
<jason...@charter.net> puked
It wasn't the immature prank, it was bragging about it that made it
abusive. And I guess doing it more than once was, too.
>
>> If you have something to add that would suggest that women that come
>> from abusive families don't gravitate toward abusive relationships, I
>> would welcome it.
>
> Do you have any evidence this is what's happening in SMG's case?
Do you want video? Give it some time.
>
>> If you have something that shows that SMG's relationship with her
>> father was anything but what I imply, please enlighten me.
>
> SMG's relationship with her father has nothing to do with her
>relationship to FP Jr. (aside from some potential Freudian psychobabble
>garbage).
>
You may call it that, but more often than not it is the case. Time
will tell you I'm right.
Paulfxfoley
>> Looking at the bright side, I give the Sarah / Freddie relationship six
>months,
>> max.
>>
>> --Paul
>
>You already lose then. I think they are going on 3 years now.
I fear it's Sarah who loses.
--Paul
------------------------------------------------
On her white Breast a sparkling Cross she wore / That Jews might kiss, and
Infidels adore.
--Alexander Pope
Rose
>In all fairness, it's just one guy ribbing his buddy. And women love
>jerks.
>
>Buddy
Apparently so do men.
Rose
"Killer in me, there's a killer in you, send this smile over to you." --
Smashing Pumpkins
Dan Armato
> "Dan Armato" <daniel...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1ada1b70.02061...@posting.google.com...
> > "Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790\)" <jhtcn...@execulink.com> wrote in
> message news:<IoVO8.25916$Z6.2...@nnrp1.uunet.ca>...
> > > Freddie's a jerk, and Sarah's a bitch. Match made in heaven.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Help control the idiot population. Have your Hicks spayed or neutered.
> >
> >
> >
> > HaHaHa...very funny. How long did it take for you to come up with that
> > one?
> >
> > Sarah is most definitely NOT a bitch. In fact, she seems to be, from
> > what I have heard and from personal experience, to be a very nice and
> > very sweet person. Why is it that when an attractive, successful,
> > talented woman has her own personality and is not afraid to give her
> > opinion, she is a "bitch"?
> >
> > How well do you know her? On what evidence do you base your
> > broad-brush stroke opinion? I'm not saying that you don't have a right
> > to your opinion (as divorced from reality as it seems to be), but if I
> > am correct, you are probably jumping to conclusions based on a few
> > dubious internet stories and posts written by highly biased and
> > jealous people who have an agenda to promote, regardless of fact.
> > Maybe you watched Cruel Intentions" on TV and are having trouble
> > separating Kathryn from Sarah? I don't know.
>
> what's funny is you flame me for drawing conclusions from interviews and
> stories when you've done the exact same thing here.
Nothing personal, but I just think you shouldn't jump to conclusions
and call somebody a bit*** without giving any explaination. Sarah is a
very kind, warm hearted person and most definately NOT a bit**. If you
ever met her or talked to people who have, I think you would find that
out. That's the point I'm trying to make. It just upsets me when
people say things like that without any real reason.
Boozy Smurf (aka Andrew Hatch/790)
excuse me, but watching her sign an autograph at Regis (the same ep where we
saw her snap at Regis & Kelly) does not qualify as meeting her.
lab~rat >:-)
>On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:41:38 GMT, paulcs <pau...@address.not> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 03:26:16 GMT, "Aethelrede"
>><aethe...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>>>cut down to size.
>>>
>>> Freddy Prinze is what Hollywood sees as "Talent", aka "Money in The
>>>Bank". He can thus do no wrong in that company town up to and including
>>>forcible rape of a minor of either sex, or murder(read up on Hollywood
>>>History if you doubt that).
>>> Having some illegal Mexican immigrant clean up his shit, either
>>>literally or metaphorically, is nothing: it's why LA county refuses to let
>>>county employees assist the feds in enforcing immigration laws. Someone has
>>>to do the shit-work, and there are always illegals willing to do it to put
>>>their kids through college.
>>
>>Gawd. This *didn't* happen. Freddie Prinze, Jr. took a crap in Mathew
>>Lillard's toilet and didn't flush. It was in retaliation for something
>>that went on between the two of them in a previous film. No PA or
>>"Mexican" was called in to clean up. The cleanup involve flushing the
>>toilet.
>
>Still a shitty thing to do.
>
LOL
nimue
"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheese.net> wrote in message
news:6pusgu8ssc14d89qk...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 22:32:21 GMT, "nimue" <cup_o...@yahoo.com>
> puked
>
> >snip
> >> lab~rat >:-)
> >> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
> >
> >Did you know it's possible to be both?
> >
> Not usually.
Try. It is, after all, your choice. You can choose to be polite and
sincere, or rude and sincere. It's up to you to choose how to behave.
Forge
wrote:
>>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>>
>>Did you know it's possible to be both?
>>
>Not usually.
Actually, yes, usually.
Aethelrede
William George Ferguson wrote in message ...
BTR1701
daniel...@aol.com (Dan Armato) wrote:
I spent a day on the Buffy set watching them shoot about 6 months ago
and of all the cast members, Gellar was the least warm and friendly. Now
I'm not saying she was a bitch because she most certainly was not. She
was very professional and polite but I wouldn't say she was warm and
friendly. On the other hand, I was only there one day and you can't
judge a person's daily demeanor by watching them for only 4 hours so
take it for what it's worth.
Of all the cast, I would say that Alyson Hannigan, Emma Caulfield and
James Marsters were the most friendly and outgoing, at least to me, a
stranger in their midst.
lab~rat
puked:
She was working. What do you expect her to do, stop doing her job so
some bozo could say she was a cheery bundle of wax in some stupid
internet newsgroup?
Oops, that almost sounded like I was defending her. As you were.
--
lab~rat >:-)
lab~rat
<xfo...@nospam.directvinternet.com> puked:
Actually, politeness by its nature, is insincere...
--
lab~rat >:-)
BTR1701
SnapTrap@ouchyouf*cker.ork wrote:
Nope. I didn't expect anyone to stop working. I was pleased just to get
the chance to stand there and watch. As it turns out, some of the cast
did take the time to say hi when the shooting was done. Gellar just
wasn't one of them.
> Oops, that almost sounded like I was defending her. As you were.
Not sure what you read but I was hardly defending her. Just stating the
facts.
lab~rat
Renee
> and of all the cast members, Gellar was the least warm and friendly. Now
> I'm not saying she was a bitch because she most certainly was not. She
> was very professional and polite but I wouldn't say she was warm and
> friendly. On the other hand, I was only there one day and you can't
> judge a person's daily demeanor by watching them for only 4 hours so
> take it for what it's worth.
>
> Of all the cast, I would say that Alyson Hannigan, Emma Caulfield and
> James Marsters were the most friendly and outgoing, at least to me, a
> stranger in their midst.
How did you get to do this? Did you know someone from the set
personally or do they let strangers on the set? I was in the studio
audience for the Daily Show and the Conan O'Brien show last summer.
That's the closest I've been to show business.
Renee
Paul Hammond
Jason E. Vines <jason...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:ugsr7j6...@corp.supernews.com...
Jason, it's really not worth your while getting this much indignation
out to argue with lab~rat.
Do a google search for some of his previous posts to atbvs
to see what I mean - especially the ones that are cross-posted
to here, alt.fan.jessica-alba and alt.tv.dark-angel.
Paul
lab~rat
<paha...@onetel.net.uk> puked:
>
>Jason, it's really not worth your while getting this much indignation
>out to argue with lab~rat.
>
>Do a google search for some of his previous posts to atbvs
>to see what I mean - especially the ones that are cross-posted
>to here, alt.fan.jessica-alba and alt.tv.dark-angel.
Damn, Paul, I thought we were friends. At least this isn't
crossposted...
BTR1701
rshi...@hotmail.com (Renee) wrote:
> > I spent a day on the Buffy set watching them shoot about 6 months ago
> > and of all the cast members, Gellar was the least warm and friendly.
> > Now I'm not saying she was a bitch because she most certainly was not. She
> > was very professional and polite but I wouldn't say she was warm and
> > friendly. On the other hand, I was only there one day and you can't
> > judge a person's daily demeanor by watching them for only 4 hours so
> > take it for what it's worth.
> >
> > Of all the cast, I would say that Alyson Hannigan, Emma Caulfield and
> > James Marsters were the most friendly and outgoing, at least to me, a
> > stranger in their midst.
>
> How did you get to do this? Did you know someone from the set
> personally or do they let strangers on the set?
I'm friends with the actress who played Glory.
Bryan
"BTR1701" <BTR...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:BTR1702-65A6BB...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
Now I envy you twice over, set visit and friend of Clare (who btw seems to
be about as grounded a person as can be from all the interviews etc. I have
seen).
Forge
>>>>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>>>>
>>>>Did you know it's possible to be both?
>>>>
>>>Not usually.
>>
>>Actually, yes, usually.
>
>Actually, politeness by its nature, is insincere...
I don't think this is true.
Forge
>>Jason, it's really not worth your while getting this much indignation
>>out to argue with lab~rat.
>>
>>Do a google search for some of his previous posts to atbvs
>>to see what I mean - especially the ones that are cross-posted
>>to here, alt.fan.jessica-alba and alt.tv.dark-angel.
>
>Damn, Paul, I thought we were friends. At least this isn't
>crossposted...
That's 'cuz the echo in the Dark Angel group woulda reverberated for
days. (grin)
nimue
"Forge" <xfo...@nospam.directvinternet.com> wrote in message
news:fmovguo6c6gpvt04b...@4ax.com...
You're right --i's not true. That is just an excuse people use to give
themselves the freedom to be rude. It's how they attempt to justify it --
but there usually is no justification for it.
>
BTR1701
BTR1701
<bry-...@swbell.net> wrote:
She's a very nice person. Not like Glory at all. Well, except maybe for
the shoe obsession... ;-)
lab~rat
<xfo...@nospam.directvinternet.com> puked:
I find your response argumentative and sincere, but not very polite.
--
lab~rat >:-)
lab~rat
<xfo...@nospam.directvinternet.com> puked:
Let's see, just for the hell of it.
lab~rat
puked:
Surely you've been the victim of politeness gone painfully awry. One
needs not be rude to be sincere, but if I tell you to have a nice day,
bear in mind, I really couldn't care less if you do or not.
HAND~
--
lab~rat >:-)
spam@btinternet.com The Ninth Doctor
I wish I was friends with Clare... Mmmmmmmm :-)
Jeeters
"Tom Breton" <te...@panNOSPAMix.com> wrote in message
news:m31yb76...@panix.com...
> Daniel Damouth <dam...@san.rr.com> writes:
>
> > "nimue" <cup_o...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > news:vXTO8.32398$Dz1.3...@twister.nyc.rr.com:
> >
> > > I saw SMG and the cast of Scooby Doo on The Rosie O'Donnell show
> > > Friday, and I have to say, I was not impressed with her fiance,
> > > Freddie Prinze, Jr. He was so, well, crude and immature. The
> > > disgusting joke he played on Mathew Lillard, the poor guy who played
> > > Shaggy, really made him seem incredibly insensitive and stupid and
> > > even a bit cruel.
> >
> > It's pretty hard to judge the appropriateness of practical jokes between
> > people who have been friends for such a long time.
>
> I didn't get that impression. They seemed about as close as SMG and
> Susan Lucci. }:)
They *are* good friends, though. Don't forget, they've teamed in four
movies in the last four years: "Wing Commander", "She's All That" and
"Summer Catch", and "Scooby". I even saw an interview with Linda Carellini
(Velma) last week where she commented on it... she was talking about her
nervousness of being accepted into the 'clique' of Freddie, SMG, and Matt
since the three were such good friends even prior Scooby Doo. (Apparantly
her concerns had no merit, btw, since the three were supposedly very
friendly and 'open' with her)
Aethelrede
lab~rat wrote in message ...
One or the other would be nice.
Or stop asking.
kaeli
> I
>
>>>have seen).
>>>
>>She's a very nice person. Not like Glory at all. Well, except maybe for
>>the shoe obsession... ;-)
>>
>
> I wish I was friends with Clare... Mmmmmmmm :-)
>
>
>
You and me both. :)
~kaeli~
H. McDaniel
> I saw SMG and the cast of Scooby Doo on The Rosie O'Donnell show Friday, and
> I have to say, I was not impressed with her fiance, Freddie Prinze, Jr. He
> was so, well, crude and immature. The disgusting joke he played on Mathew
> Lillard, the poor guy who played Shaggy, really made him seem incredibly
> insensitive and stupid and even a bit cruel. He was like a twelve year old.
> He did not seem intelligent or kind, and I was surprised.
Do you have any evidence that SMG was looking for an intelligent,
kind, mature guy? Or that she is intelligent, kind and mature? I
never kept up much with her private life. I just know she's done
some magazine photo shoots, some soap opera way back when, and
excels in the part of Buffy, delivering lines of broken English
that wouldn't be out of place in a Conan the Barbarian movie. I
think the most intelligence I've seen her show on screen was the
time she was running from some fisherman high on clam chowder who
wanted to gut her like a fish. Mind you I'm not a fanatic so
much as a casual observer so let me know if I missed anything.
-McDaniel
nimue
"H. McDaniel" <mcda...@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.33.020620...@localhost.localdomain...
Why do I need evidence that SMG is mature or kind or intelligent to
criticize Freddie Prinze, Jr.? Whatever SMG is or is not doesn't affect my
opinion of Freddie Prinze, Jr. I don't like what I saw of him on the Rosie
Show. He seemed really thoughtless and even cruel. You seem snotty, btw.
Any reason why, or have I misunderstood you?
H. McDaniel
You don't. I was pointing out, perhaps too subtely, that FPJ may
be precisely what SMG was looking for however shocking his
behavior seems to you. I'm indifferent to the guy....
> Whatever SMG is or is not doesn't affect my
> opinion of Freddie Prinze, Jr. I don't like what I saw of him on the Rosie
> Show. He seemed really thoughtless and even cruel.
I didn't dispute that. I simply question why he isn't right for SMG which
you (or the original poster) claimed was the case.
> You seem snotty, btw.
> Any reason why, or have I misunderstood you?
Oh... I can think of lots of reasons.
-McDaniel
lab~rat
<mcda...@localhost.localdomain> puked:
I'll make my comments, but if anyone saw that, I'd be interested to
know how they thought she came across before I do...
Her Highness The Pink Princess
>> personally or do they let strangers on the set?
>
>I'm friends with the actress who played Glory.
Dahling, how completely fabulous, she is the very entree on the Divine buffet!
She brought so much to that role, we've just re-watched Season 5, and wondered
how much of Claire we saw, peeking through, when Glory was becomming more Ben,
especially when she said, "What's the hubbub, bub?" to Dawn.
Reigning and Deigning
Pink Wishes
The Princess \^*^*^/
*The romance, history and beauty of Havencrest Castle is here, in a newly
edited, 2 hour, VHS "Centennial Edition", celebrating 100 years of luxury!
"It's like walking through a valentine!"
http://www.facemakersincorporated.com/havenmain.html
nimue
"H. McDaniel" <Cut_off_Xs_to_Rep...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:3D1274FA...@yahoo.com...
You weren't being too subtle. You were being too nasty and insulting, and I
guess your subtle point got lost in all the mean stuff. If you think SMG is
stupid and a bad actress (and that is what I got from your post), well,
that is your opinion, but I fail to see how that would mean she would like
someone as casually cruel as Freddie Prinze, Jr.
however shocking his
> behavior seems to you. I'm indifferent to the guy....
>
> > Whatever SMG is or is not doesn't affect my
> > opinion of Freddie Prinze, Jr. I don't like what I saw of him on the
Rosie
> > Show. He seemed really thoughtless and even cruel.
>
> I didn't dispute that. I simply question why he isn't right for SMG which
> you (or the original poster) claimed was the case.
>
> > You seem snotty, btw.
> > Any reason why, or have I misunderstood you?
>
> Oh... I can think of lots of reasons.
>
> -McDaniel
I am the original poster. Nearly all of my post was devoted to my
explaining why I was so disgusted by Freddie Prinze, Jr., but I did write
the following <<He did not seem intelligent or kind, and I was surprised. I
wondered what SMG likes in him. She seemed friendly and charming and very
nice -- I have
NO clue what she sees in him.>> SMG *DID* seem pretty decent on the Rosie
show. She also handled herself with grace on Howard Stern earlier that same
day. On the other hand, Freddie was repulsive. I questioned why SMG would
like someone like him. In fact, I wonder why ANYONE would like someone like
him. I never said he wasn't right for her -- but it IS true that I cannot
imagine him being right for ANYONE (of course, this is only based on what I
saw on the Rosie Show -- I don't know the guy). As for you being snotty --
well, I guess you are proud of it (do you have anything else to be proud
of?).
>
H. McDaniel
> "H. McDaniel" <Cut_off_Xs_to_Rep...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:3D1274FA...@yahoo.com...
> > nimue wrote:
> > > Why do I need evidence that SMG is mature or kind or intelligent to
> > > criticize Freddie Prinze, Jr.?
> >
> > You don't. I was pointing out, perhaps too subtely, that FPJ may
> > be precisely what SMG was looking for
>
> You weren't being too subtle. You were being too nasty and insulting, and I
> guess your subtle point got lost in all the mean stuff. If you think SMG is
> stupid and a bad actress (and that is what I got from your post),
I didn't call her stupid. If I thought she was stupid I'd tell you. I think
she's
of average intelligence, slightly above average acting talent (albeit less
than fully utilized on BtVS.)
> well,
> that is your opinion, but I fail to see how that would mean she would like
> someone as casually cruel as Freddie Prinze, Jr.
But she does like him so I 'fail to see' how you're an expert on SMG's
likes and dislikes.
[...]
> As for you being snotty --
> well, I guess you are proud of it (do you have anything else to be proud
> of?).
I'm not an SMG fanatic.
-McDaniel
nimue
I never said I was. What I was saying above was I don't see why SMG -- or
anyone -- being stupid would necessarily mean that she would like a cruel
person.
>
> > As for you being snotty --
> > well, I guess you are proud of it (do you have anything else to be proud
> > of?).
>
> I'm not an SMG fanatic.
That's it? That's all you have to be proud of? Okay.
>
> -McDaniel
>
Dan Armato
>
> I'll make my comments, but if anyone saw that, I'd be interested to
> know how they thought she came across before I do...
Ok, Mr. Rat, I'll nibble at the cheese in your trap. :)
I thought she came across on Stern as very "Sarah". By that I mean
intelligent, witty, funny, very cute, and absolutely stunning.
I was at the Early Show that day (she was there before she went to
Stern) and, let me tell you, Sarah shines with an inner beauty (and an
outer one as well). I know looks are subjective, but, believe me, if
you saw her in person, I think your jaw would drop and you would take
back quite a few of your past comments. She is one of those people who
light up a room when they walk in. Trust me, I was there. Plus, she
waved to me :)
She did well in dodging the questions she didn't want to answer--both
the expected sex questions and the prying financial questions. Howard
is a smart guy (very smart, in fact), but he is no match for SMG in
this department. I do think Howard is a fan, though, and was not as
crude as he tends to be with other beautiful women who appear on his
show. He did seem to really harp on the "waxing" issue, though. I
think Howard has a little fetish with that.
Anyway, I guess that age old question, oft debated by the finest minds
of the times, has finally been put to rest. :)
In a way, she was out of her element, yet pulled it off despite this.
Let me explain what I mean. I like Howard's show, in general, but it
can be kind of low brow and lacking, well, class. I mean, I have seen
him throw bagels at the cream cheese covered rear of several women.
Sarah on Stern is like a flower among the weeds. She brings the level
of the show up. Like a billionaire at a burger joint, she just stands
out. The fact that she would go on his show again shows both bravery
and self confidence as well as her very unpretentious attitude.
Sarah manages to blend cute (just look at her with that huge Scooby
stuffed animal), sexy (her lips look like they were just made to be
kissed---I was going to say something here about her sparkling eyes,
but I'm sure that would just get a rude comment from Senor Rat), and
elegant (she carries herself with a style not often seen today). So,
yeah, I think she came across quite well.
-Dan
(successfully removes cheese from Lab Rat's trap and walks away to eat
lunch)
PS-I realize that you might not be a big fan of Sarah (though I can't
understand why, but that is another topic), but I really can't see how
anybody could call the Stern interview anything but a fun romp that
showed just how much personality is packed into the Sarah's petite
form. Did you see Leno last night? That may be one of my favorite
interviews yet. How can you not just fall in love with her after
seeing that?
Dan Armato
I can tell you some more about Sarah.
intelligence: Sarah graduated from high school at 15 with just about a
perfect grade point average. She has a huge vocabulary (look at her
interviews) and is always well spoken. She is known for her almost
unreal ability to memorize her lines and scripts quickly. She loves to
read and is a collector of old books.
kindness: Sarah has done a lot of charity work, including building
houses for Habitat for the Humanities. She loves her fans--I always
hear good things from people who meet her. She waved at me at the
Early Show, which was kind of cool.
maturity: Sarah has never done recreational drugs of any sort (baring
the occasional social drink). She does not buy into the L.A. party
lifestyle and often works 17 hour days on the set. She is very much a
perfectionist and is very driven to succeed.
The E! interview (with the lovely Jules Asner) is an excellent place
to learn more about Sarah.
People have said that Sarah has caused Freddie to become more focused
and professional and that Freddie has caused Sarah to lighten up and
relax a bit. Sarah is into the classics, Freddie is into comic books.
Sarah is elegant and refined, Freddie can be a little unpolished. I
have nothing against Freddie (beyond the obvious jealousy, of course!)
Whenever I have run into him (several times, strangely), he has seemed
to be a quiet guy. Obviously, he is into practical jokes (big time)
with his friends. He might be a little immature, but, at least, he
realizes how lucky he is to have Sarah.
H. McDaniel
You're stretching. If you want to play this game in the future ask better
questions.
ha ha.
-McDaniel
nimue
I'm not stretching. That was your answer to my question.
>
TomTraubertsBlues
> In article <knaugug1pgh1er264...@4ax.com>,
> SnapTrap@ouchyouf*cker.ork wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 01:26:52 -0700, BTR1701 <BTR...@ix.netcom.com>
> > puked:
> >
> > >In article <1ada1b70.02061...@posting.google.com>,
> > >daniel...@aol.com (Dan Armato) wrote:
>
> > >> Nothing personal, but I just think you shouldn't jump to conclusions
> > >> and call somebody a bit*** without giving any explaination. Sarah is
a
> > >> very kind, warm hearted person and most definately NOT a bit**. If
you
> > >> ever met her or talked to people who have, I think you would find
that
> > >> out.
> > >
> > >I spent a day on the Buffy set watching them shoot about 6 months ago
> > >and of all the cast members, Gellar was the least warm and friendly.
Now
> > >I'm not saying she was a bitch because she most certainly was not. She
> > >was very professional and polite but I wouldn't say she was warm and
> > >friendly. On the other hand, I was only there one day and you can't
> > >judge a person's daily demeanor by watching them for only 4 hours so
> > >take it for what it's worth.
> > >
> > >Of all the cast, I would say that Alyson Hannigan, Emma Caulfield and
> > >James Marsters were the most friendly and outgoing, at least to me, a
> > >stranger in their midst.
> >
> > some bozo could say she was a cheery bundle of wax in some stupid
> > internet newsgroup?
>
> Nope. I didn't expect anyone to stop working. I was pleased just to get
> the chance to stand there and watch. As it turns out, some of the cast
> did take the time to say hi when the shooting was done. Gellar just
> wasn't one of them.
>
> > Oops, that almost sounded like I was defending her. As you were.
>
> Not sure what you read but I was hardly defending her. Just stating the
> facts.
I think he meant "As you were" in the military sense like when an officer or
NCO gives an order then recinds it by saying "as you were".
BTW, the rundown of your experience on the BTVS set is how someone should
make an observation. It had your opinion, but you also gave possible
reasons for the observed demeanor, unlike many who blindly accuse with no
actual experience at all.
Mike
TomTraubertsBlues
> In article <f6980f4e.02061...@posting.google.com>,
> rshi...@hotmail.com (Renee) wrote:
>
> > > and of all the cast members, Gellar was the least warm and friendly.
> > > Now I'm not saying she was a bitch because she most certainly was
not. She
> > > was very professional and polite but I wouldn't say she was warm and
> > > friendly. On the other hand, I was only there one day and you can't
> > > judge a person's daily demeanor by watching them for only 4 hours so
> > > take it for what it's worth.
> > >
> > > Of all the cast, I would say that Alyson Hannigan, Emma Caulfield and
> > > James Marsters were the most friendly and outgoing, at least to me, a
> > > stranger in their midst.
> >
> > personally or do they let strangers on the set?
>
> I'm friends with the actress who played Glory.
Oh man, she was hot. She looked familiar too. What else has she done?
Mike
Mike Enright
>[Someone else wrote:]
>>I'm friends with the actress who played Glory.
>
>
> Oh man, she was hot. She looked familiar too. What else has she done?
>
Pretty much, "Bring it on." She was in a lot of scenes. Elisha Dushku
was in many more of the scenes.
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Kramer,+Clare
--
Mike Enright
enri...@acm.org
Cardiff-by-the-Sea, CA
lab~rat
puked:
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I can appreciate your
perspective based on the fact that you are a big fan of SMG, however,
I saw something different, and I waited until after seeing Scooby Doo
this weekend to comment.
This may be just me, and I have to admit the number of buffy shows
I've seen I can count on my fingers, but there seems to be some kind
of hate brewing in her. On btvs, I always dismissed it as being part
of the role she's playing, but when watching that interview it came
through, despite her attempts at being charming, sharp and witty.
Again, I excused her defensive nature as part and parcel to the
environment (being on the Stern show), but it seems to come out in her
acting, and I can't help but think that this is a personality trait.
I think the fast-talking, adversarial, and smart-ass persona is
exactly what you get with her.
Now, on to Scooby Doo...
Clearly, I didn't walk into this movie thinking it was going to be a
made-for-Mensa movie. Scooby Doo was I cartoon I watched as a child,
and now my child watches it, so what the hell.
What really pissed me off more than anything is how FPj and SMG got
top billing on that show when the guy who played Shaggy made the
movie. Fred and Daphne were pretty flat characters in the cartoon to
begin with, but the departure they made from the original not only
ruined the chemistry of the show, but detracted from the good
elements, namely Shaggy and Velma (I could try to impress you by
looking their real names up, but I won't).
In addition, I must say SMG's performance was much better than FPj. I
know his character was transformed into an unlikable one, but this was
not his best movie.
The other disappointment: the long awaited Daphne ass-kicking scene
totally fell flat! I was expecting something outstanding because of
the buildup.
Don't go any further if you haven't seen the movie...
Scrappy Doo the villain? Gag me with a fork.
lab~rat
puked:
>lab~rat <ch...@cheese.net> wrote in message news:<g036huc8cfmbeuqjj...@4ax.com>...
>>
>> I'll make my comments, but if anyone saw that, I'd be interested to
>> know how they thought she came across before I do...
>
>
>Ok, Mr. Rat, I'll nibble at the cheese in your trap. :)
>
<snip>
Oh, and by the way, the Stern fan in me loved the fact that she was
the only cast member in Scooby Doo to be both urinated on AND farted
on!
Bababooey!
Dan Armato
> On 22 Jun 2002 09:31:59 -0700, daniel...@aol.com (Dan Armato)
> puked:
>
> >lab~rat <ch...@cheese.net> wrote in message news:<g036huc8cfmbeuqjj...@4ax.com>...
> perspective based on the fact that you are a big fan of SMG, however,
> I saw something different, and I waited until after seeing Scooby Doo
> this weekend to comment.
>
> This may be just me, and I have to admit the number of buffy shows
> I've seen I can count on my fingers, but there seems to be some kind
> of hate brewing in her. On btvs, I always dismissed it as being part
> of the role she's playing, but when watching that interview it came
> through, despite her attempts at being charming, sharp and witty.
>
> Again, I excused her defensive nature as part and parcel to the
> environment (being on the Stern show), but it seems to come out in her
> acting, and I can't help but think that this is a personality trait.
> I think the fast-talking, adversarial, and smart-ass persona is
> exactly what you get with her.
Hmmm, I never noticed any "hate brewing" kind of vibe in her acting
(beyond what was part of the show) or interviews. I think she went
into Stern not knowing exactly what to expect, so she had her guard up
(rightfully so!). She had just come from the Early Show (8:15am and
probably went right to Stern from there). It was a cold, rainy day.
She was ending her very busy NY tour with that show ( I think she was
flying home that day & she is not a big fan of flying) plus she was
getting over a cold herself. I think that all of that might have
figured into your impression. In her other interviews--Letterman,the
View,Conan, even the Early Show that morning, she was much more
relaxed. I think she came in "ready for battle", so to speak and more
than a little worn out.
Still, the interview wasn't bad and I thought she did well in dealing
with the usual Howard questions. Did you hear the entire interview (it
was like 45 minutes) or just see the E! show? The actual interview had
much more flow to it than the edited together E! clips. If you want to
see Sarah relaxed and having fun in an interview, Conan O'Brian from a
few weeks ago (and wow, Conan is hilarious in person!) and the Jay
Leno one from last week are very worth a second look.
(sorry about the excessive Sarah fan-love that follows, but I
must......)
Sarah's personality also shined through at the MTV Movie awards in
L.A. She seemed to be having a really good time on stage. She was a
tad nervous in the first take of the opening number for a second or
two (I think she is still a little unsure of how her singing would
sound). By the end of the second take (they had some sort of tech
problem and had to do the whole opening number again), she was relaxed
and the fun side of Sarah came through. She seems, in general, to be
more relaxed lately, and that is a good thing.
Both Sara and Buffy have a slightly sarcastic personality.
I won't deny that, but I see it more as charming and cute than
adversarial ( to tell you the truth, I think it is rather sexy :) Of
course, I do speak from a fan's view, but I think she is really a very
nice person. She is also a very private person, particularly about her
personal life. I think sometimes that gives some people the wrong
impression. When you see your favorite celebrity, sports star, or just
somebody famous that you admire--live and in person, you risk being
disappointed at best or not liking him or her quite as much as before.
A person can be very different from your perceptions of them from TV.
In this case, the opposite happened. She was even more than what I
expected, and I expected her to be quite special already. Sarah
seemed, to my eye, to be a very friendly, very genuine and fun person
who also happens to be a star. I'd say "sweet" is the best single word
I can use describe Sarah. I'll admit it, this even surprised me, to
some degree. That might not be what you have heard or expect, but that
was my impression, and I usually am a very good judge of such things.
So, I can honestly say that I am a bigger fan after seeing her in
person than I was when she was just an image on TV. A truly pleasant
surprise, and one that will make watching Buffy an even greater
experience than before.
TomTraubertsBlues
news:<307ehugme2qs8900d...@4ax.com>...
> > On 22 Jun 2002 09:31:59 -0700, daniel...@aol.com (Dan Armato)
> > puked:
> >
> > >lab~rat <ch...@cheese.net> wrote in message
news:<g036huc8cfmbeuqjj...@4ax.com>...
> > Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I can appreciate your
> > perspective based on the fact that you are a big fan of SMG, however,
> > I saw something different, and I waited until after seeing Scooby Doo
> > this weekend to comment.
> >
> > This may be just me, and I have to admit the number of buffy shows
> > I've seen I can count on my fingers, but there seems to be some kind
> > of hate brewing in her.
Labrat (if that is your real name), I just noticed your comment about not
watching very many episodes of BTVS. So, pray tell, why do you visit this
ng?
Mike
Ken
"TomTraubertsBlues" <silentsa...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:x36R8.349159$Gs.27...@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com...
Right. How nice is the average person at work? There are good days and
bad--and that's without having an audience of strangers--unless you work
with the public and that has its own "thrills".
-- Ken from Chicago
lab~rat
<silentsa...@comcast.net> puked:
>> lab~rat <ch...@cheese.net> wrote in message
>news:<307ehugme2qs8900d...@4ax.com>...
>> > On 22 Jun 2002 09:31:59 -0700, daniel...@aol.com (Dan Armato)
>> > puked:
>> >
>> > >lab~rat <ch...@cheese.net> wrote in message
>news:<g036huc8cfmbeuqjj...@4ax.com>...
>> > Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I can appreciate your
>> > perspective based on the fact that you are a big fan of SMG, however,
>> > I saw something different, and I waited until after seeing Scooby Doo
>> > this weekend to comment.
>> >
>> > This may be just me, and I have to admit the number of buffy shows
>> > I've seen I can count on my fingers, but there seems to be some kind
>> > of hate brewing in her.
>
>Labrat (if that is your real name), I just noticed your comment about not
>watching very many episodes of BTVS. So, pray tell, why do you visit this
>ng?
>
I paid for a five year subscription, and I want to be sure I get my
money's worth.
lab~rat
<kwicker_era...@ameritech.net> puked:
That was my point. Unless you're doing a variety show where you
interact with people in the studio, I would imagine that you should be
serious about what you're doing.
lab~rat
puked:
>lab~rat <ch...@cheese.net> wrote in message news:<307ehugme2qs8900d...@4ax.com>...
>> On 22 Jun 2002 09:31:59 -0700, daniel...@aol.com (Dan Armato)
>> puked:
>>
>> >lab~rat <ch...@cheese.net> wrote in message news:<g036huc8cfmbeuqjj...@4ax.com>...
>> Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I can appreciate your
>> perspective based on the fact that you are a big fan of SMG, however,
>> I saw something different, and I waited until after seeing Scooby Doo
>> this weekend to comment.
>>
>> This may be just me, and I have to admit the number of buffy shows
>> I've seen I can count on my fingers, but there seems to be some kind
>> of hate brewing in her. On btvs, I always dismissed it as being part
>> of the role she's playing, but when watching that interview it came
>> through, despite her attempts at being charming, sharp and witty.
>>
>> Again, I excused her defensive nature as part and parcel to the
>> environment (being on the Stern show), but it seems to come out in her
>> acting, and I can't help but think that this is a personality trait.
>> I think the fast-talking, adversarial, and smart-ass persona is
>> exactly what you get with her.
>
>Hmmm, I never noticed any "hate brewing" kind of vibe in her acting
>(beyond what was part of the show) or interviews. I think she went
>into Stern not knowing exactly what to expect, so she had her guard up
>(rightfully so!).
She's been on the show before, so I think she knew exactly what to
expect. Your comment about her being on the Early Show (I know
nothing of this) may have merit. Maybe the stress of having to be a
number of different places in one morning was taking its toll.
But I can't help but see some kind of smoldering disdain in her eyes
(I won't go anywhere else with that), even when she does those
Maybelline commercials. Btw, what is the 'Future of Shine' anyway?
As for her personally, I never met her, but you see what you see and I
see what I see. I came away from that Stern interview thinking it was
good, but that SMG didn't seem like a real likable person. That's
probably why I don't like her.
I can sympathize with actors that are trotted out by their agents or
production companies or whoever make that happen to promote their
movies. I'm sure the last place SMG wanted to be that morning was in
the studio with Stern.
I can appreciate your infatuation with her, and I hope you share my
opinion that her and FPj should never have kids... :)
Smaug69
She seemed to be playful, but I could tell it was mostly an act. I
think she wanted to give the appearance that she was a fan of
Howard's(She kept saying she and Freddy listen to his show all the
time) and that she wasn't afraid to be on the show and take his
ribbing. But I could occasionally see that she wasn't entirely
comfortable being there. Considering that Howard has openly expressed
how much he loves the show and that he always watched it and that he
likes SMG, I don't see why it would be such a big deal. Howard may be
crude and offensive at times, but he's not a monster.
The thing I remember the most is where she said she was only 17 when
she started on Buffy. Since it's a well-known fact that she turned 25
in April of this year that means that she was 19 when she filmed the
first episodes of BtVS(before her birthday in April of 1997)- unless
she was referring to some other show she started on when she was 17.
But I'm pretty sure that Howard asked her about BtVS.
Smaug69
Tom Breton
> She seemed to be playful, but I could tell it was mostly an act. I
> think she wanted to give the appearance that she was a fan of
> Howard's(She kept saying she and Freddy listen to his show all the
> time) and that she wasn't afraid to be on the show and take his
> ribbing. But I could occasionally see that she wasn't entirely
> comfortable being there. [...]
She's been on Howard Stern before.
> The thing I remember the most is where she said she was only 17 when
> she started on Buffy. Since it's a well-known fact that she turned 25
> in April of this year that means that she was 19 when she filmed the
> first episodes of BtVS(before her birthday in April of 1997)- unless
> she was referring to some other show she started on when she was 17.
> But I'm pretty sure that Howard asked her about BtVS.
Exactly. She's said she had her 19th birthday while filming the
pilot. 17 is about when she left AMC.
--
Tom Breton at panix.com, username tehom. http://www.panix.com/~tehom
BTVS geek code, http://panix.com/~tehom/btvs-geek-code.html
William George Ferguson
>The thing I remember the most is where she said she was only 17 when
>she started on Buffy. Since it's a well-known fact that she turned 25
>in April of this year that means that she was 19 when she filmed the
>first episodes of BtVS(before her birthday in April of 1997)- unless
>she was referring to some other show she started on when she was 17.
>But I'm pretty sure that Howard asked her about BtVS.
She may actually have been 17 when she was originally cast on the
show. She turned 18 on April 14, 1995, and the actual production on
the show (after the WB pick up) started in the summer of 1996 when she
was 19. She pretty much had to 18 or less when the original pilot was
filmed.
So, at a guess
17 (late 17) at initial casting (spring 95)
18 when shooting original pilot (summer/fall 95)
18/19 when show ordered (spring 96)
19 when shooting season 1 (summer 96)
20 during the airing of season 1 (spring 97)
or she could just be misremembering precise dates.
--
"Oh Buffy, you really do need to have
every square inch of your ass kicked."
- Willow Rosenberg