This is the second episode in a row with clearly visible nipples. Prue
yesterday and Phoebe today. You know I would think that all that demon
vanquishing would be comfier with a bra. Not that I'm complaining.
Perhaps this new demon slaying fashion trend will spread to Buffy.
--
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music at www.mp3.com/marysia inc Spike inspired song 'Darker than This'
"And you can use my skin, to bury secrets in" - Fiona Apple
>What is up with Charmed?
>
>This is the second episode in a row with clearly visible nipples. Prue
>yesterday and Phoebe today. You know I would think that all that demon
>vanquishing would be comfier with a bra. Not that I'm complaining.
>Perhaps this new demon slaying fashion trend will spread to Buffy.
Well, in the case of Charmed, it's merely a desperate attempt to use
sex appeal to divert our attention from the bad writing and lame
plots. But actually this is a perfect example of blatant reverse
discrimination. Female BtVS fans have been able to enjoy a shirtless
Angel, Oz, Xander, etc. whereas we male fans must be content with only
a glimpse of cleavage now and then. This is obviously unjust and I
for one demand equal ogle rights! :)
Mnkohrz
> What is up with Charmed?
>
> This is the second episode in a row with clearly visible nipples. Prue
You really have to ask?
They're using the oldest gimmick in the world to bolster ratings. How do you
think Baywatch lasted so long?
"Marysia" <mar...@marysia.spannercom> wrote in message
news:djc9nt8724ppukkkn...@4ax.com...
They were trying to distract the viewers from the complete and utter lack of
creativity in their plots this past season. Didn't work in my case; I bailed
out early. They would have to be naked to get me watching again. No, that
wouldn't be enough. They would have to turn the show into hard-core porn to get
me watching again.
-- Mike Zeares
The last time I was accused of watching Buffy for all the nubile
females, I said 'No, that's why I watch Charmed.'. ;)
In high school, I didn't really watch "Baywatch". I saw several
episodes or parts of episodes, but usually I just had the TV on in my
bedroom for background noise while I worked on my computer or
something, but I didn't really watch it. The reason I had it on the
station that "Baywatch" aired on was that the TV could ONLY pick up
the local Fox station.
That show was so bad. I certainly don't mind beautiful women being on
TV and in movies. What I do mind is a series that that's really about
partially clothed individuals and tries to convince me that it's
really about good writing AND good acting and NOT about the partially
clothed individuals. Of the episodes or parts of episodes I did see,
they all seemed that they were trying to convince me that the
characters were really deep by having them peer over the ocean. What
really helped me see how bad the episodes were was the--I
guess--"musical interlude" that seemed to cut into every episode I
saw. Usually there was this one character walking by themselves.
There seemed to be an episode about one of the lifeguards having an
eating disorder. I didn't watch the whole thing so I can't be sure.
I think I laughed at that episode and not for the reasons the writers
wanted me to. I just need to be clear on a point. I wasn't laughing
at the eating disorder, I was laughing at the writers using such an
obvious ploy to gain my sympathy for the character. It would have
worked a lot better if the writing and acting were of a higher
caliber. (I just can't say that enough.)
Also, I recently saw a couple of minutes of the new "Baywatch" series
and I thought, "This may be even worse than the original." The
producers have turned the production of bad TV into a real science.
I like "VIP" so much better. It has woman who are attractive AND it's
MEANT to be funny.
Caffeine fuels my body, B/X fuels my soul.
"Yes, yes, senator. You have shown how rogue nations may now have the
capacity for developing nuclear stockpiles. But what we all want to
know is how does this affect the probability of Buffy/Xander,
Lori/Merton, and Angela/Jacob romances?"
It really just sickens me to no end that they'll stoop to this and not
involve Piper. She's the hottie.
-Diem
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Well, I like it. It's not Buffy but I don't care. I still watch and
enjoy it.
Along with Witchblade, Sabrina, Seven Days, Invisible Man, Andromeda,
West Wing, Boston Public, Ally McBeal, just started on Earth: Final
Conflict...
I watch a lot of TV
What, no Lexx? (Actually rather decent this season, in it's own silly
way.)
Someone said they bailed on Charmed last season. I started watching the
end of season 2 and found it fairly bad, but this past year I watched
most episodes, because it was on right after Gilmore Girls, and I found
it pretty enjoyable, for the most part. Often the dialogue is
laughable, but somehow I liked it anyway.
I can't condone watching Earth: Final Conflict, though...
--
Frank Swarbrick -- now powered by SuSE Linux 7.2
home: inf...@sprynet.com / work: frank.s...@efirstbank.com
"I'm very seldom naughty" --Willow Rosenberg, 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer'
Hey, someone else that watches Invisible Man, one of the neatest sci-fi
shows that no one on the planet has heard of. ;)
There is one excuse/reason for watching EFC. Liam whoever he is. I even
got this pic of a naked guy in a field and id swear it was him..
--drools--
--
--
333---the diet coke of evil. Half the evil all the flavour.
I've been known to watch Invisible Man; it's certainly no worse than,
say, Voyager or X-Files. Vincent Ventresca's hair frightens me, though.
chev
>Along with Witchblade, Sabrina, Seven Days, Invisible Man, Andromeda,
>West Wing, Boston Public, Ally McBeal, just started on Earth: Final
>Conflict...
>I watch a lot of TV
I take it you are watching "Earth: Final Conflict" in second run on SciFi
channel? I recommend that you try to catch all of the first-season episodes.
At least two-thirds of the first season was coherent, had some decent writing
and acting, and tried to stick to a CONSISTENT story arc. The next three
seasons threw out the arc, then threw out the next arc, then threw out the
next arc. Various characters end up with three, if not four personalities over
the course of the show.
For the fifth season, exactly one actor remains who was in the regular cast of
the first season. The show had some decent actors, whose careers I fear have
been ruined forever for association with this dreck.
I get a kick out of "The Invisible Man". The Jewish sidekick cracks me up. I
like the banter among the cast, the obsequious assistant-to, even occassional
exploration of moral dilemnas... The show is fun, doesn't take itself too
seriously, and has a dirt-cheap budget, the way sci-fi is meant to be.
I thought Baywatch was really bad... Then I saw Baywatch Hawaii...
Doug
>What is up with Charmed?
>This is the second episode in a row with clearly visible nipples. Prue
>yesterday and Phoebe today. You know I would think that all that demon
>vanquishing would be comfier with a bra. Not that I'm complaining.
>Perhaps this new demon slaying fashion trend will spread to Buffy.
Is there any support for picketing the set?
Say, were these real nipples, or stunt double as revealed on
"Sex and the City" a few weeks ago?
[edited]
> Well, I like it. It's not Buffy but I don't care. I still watch and
> enjoy it.
>
> Along with Witchblade, Sabrina, Seven Days, Invisible Man, Andromeda,
> West Wing, Boston Public, Ally McBeal, just started on Earth: Final
> Conflict...
>
> I watch a lot of TV
I haven't watched "Witchblade", but I did see TNT's original movie. I
liked it. It's just that I'm on vacation and I don't have cable here.
I haven't watched "Seven Days" in some time because UPN moved it so it
conflicts with something else.
I have seen a couple of episodes of "Invisible Man". I loved it. I
remember that the main actor was on a science fiction TV series on ABC
called "Prey". I also loved that one, too. Why did ABC have to
cancel it? Damn network. "Prey" was great. I don't like how great
and innovative programming that usually fails to capture a big
audience during its first is cancelled so quickly. Great and
innovative programming usually takes time to build up an audience.
Debra Messing starred in this before doing onto..."Will and Grace"? I
know some people like "Will and Grace" is funny, I'm just not one of
them. I don't think it's written that well. But that's my opinion.
"Andromeda" and "Earth: Final Conflict". I love both of these series.
I've watched "Earth: Final Conflict" from the very beginning and I
loved that this last season--season 4--really explained what went on
in earlier seasons.
[edited]
> What, no Lexx? (Actually rather decent this season, in it's own silly
> way.)
>
> Someone said they bailed on Charmed last season. I started watching the
> end of season 2 and found it fairly bad, but this past year I watched
> most episodes, because it was on right after Gilmore Girls, and I found
> it pretty enjoyable, for the most part. Often the dialogue is
> laughable, but somehow I liked it anyway.
>
> I can't condone watching Earth: Final Conflict, though...
Hey. "Earth: Final Conflict" is damn good series. In an ocean of
television programming mediocrity it is one of the few programs that
illustrate what TV programming can be.
I've been a fan since the beginning. I don't have all the episodes
because the cable system that goes to my apartment hadn't been through
an upgrade and the quality of the signal wasn't too great. The same
goes for some of the early "Buffy" episodes.
Anyway, this season--the fourth--of E:FC really helped to explain what
went on through the first three seasons. It even confirmed some
things we suspected but were never quite clear on and even had some
big surprises in store. The season finale gave me goosebumps. I have
no idea what's going to happen next season, but I can't wait. I'm
pretty sure the fifth season will be the end because I heard that it
was always planned as a five-year story. I like these kinds of series
because they require a great deal of patience and concentration to
understand what is going on. One of my favorite science fiction
series of all time is "Babylon 5".
Cool answer!
Paul
>Well, I like it. It's not Buffy but I don't care. I still watch and
>enjoy it.
>
>Along with Witchblade, Sabrina, Seven Days, Invisible Man, Andromeda,
>West Wing, Boston Public, Ally McBeal, just started on Earth: Final
>Conflict...
>
>I watch a lot of TV
>
You can watch Seven Days without screaming? That's even worse
than "Time cop"!
Paul
>Someone said they bailed on Charmed last season. I started watching the
>end of season 2 and found it fairly bad, but this past year I watched
>most episodes, because it was on right after Gilmore Girls, and I found
>it pretty enjoyable, for the most part. Often the dialogue is
>laughable, but somehow I liked it anyway.
Yep. I get my _good_ tv watching Gilmore Girls, and then I get my
eye candy from Charmed. (And they occasionally stumble across some
pretty entertaining plot ideas...although mostly they haven't a clue
what to do with them.)
Are you sure there is going to be a next season. I could have sworn I
saw the words series finale before that last eps. The only reason I
saw that was they were promoting it after an eps of andromida.
Eric
>You can watch Seven Days without screaming? That's even worse
>than "Time cop"!
"Time Cop" had a perfect opportunity to smash Jean-Claude Van Dam into a solid
wall, and failed to avail itself of it. Ah, well.
Most episodes of "Seven Days" are quite enjoyable; a few were even good
drama. The show didn't take itself seriously. I liked the cast, especially
the scientists Ballard and Hooter. The time travel was the greatest aid to the
running gag of Olga building the sexual tension through constant teasing of
Mr. Parker.
Must report that I saw the not so wonderful "Dinner with Friends" tonight,
starring Andie McDowell. In one scene, she wore a nightgown, and would you
believe you could see indentations. We need a new rating for this.
>Someone said they bailed on Charmed last season. I started watching the
>end of season 2 and found it fairly bad, but this past year I watched
>most episodes, because it was on right after Gilmore Girls, and I found
>it pretty enjoyable, for the most part. Often the dialogue is
>laughable, but somehow I liked it anyway.
I recommend trying to find a copy of the first season. (Don't bother
with the reruns on TNT, tho. TNT has never broadcast any series that
it didn't edit in some fashion.) Charmed peaked during the first
season and, unfortunately, it's been downhill ever since. This next
season will definitely be the last as the departure of Shannen Doherty
was the death sentence for Charmed.
Mnkohrz
[edited]
>
> I thought Baywatch was really bad... Then I saw Baywatch Hawaii...
>
> Doug
I just remembered there was one "Baywatch" series that was actually
really good. It was called "Baywatch Nights". I decided to watch an
episode early in it's first season to see how bad it was and was
pleasantly surprised to find that it had very little in commmon with
"Baywatch" and had more in common with "Riptide" and "Magnum P.I." It
had the main character from "Baywatch"--the guy who played Michael
Knight in the '80s series "Knight Rider"--working as a detective.
That was before they started adding in ghosts, vampires, and aliens.
That doesn't change that fact that at the beginning it was a pretty
decent detective series. Okay, it did have the "musical interlude"
that "Baywatch" had but it wasn't really that annoying because it
wasn't as forced on the series as it is on "Baywatch" and both the
writing and the acting were pretty good.
[edited]
> mar...@marysia.com wrote:
>
> >Along with Witchblade, Sabrina, Seven Days, Invisible Man, Andromeda,
> >West Wing, Boston Public, Ally McBeal, just started on Earth: Final
> >Conflict...
>
> >I watch a lot of TV
>
> I take it you are watching "Earth: Final Conflict" in second run on SciFi
> channel? I recommend that you try to catch all of the first-season episodes.
> At least two-thirds of the first season was coherent, had some decent writing
> and acting, and tried to stick to a CONSISTENT story arc. The next three
> seasons threw out the arc, then threw out the next arc, then threw out the
> next arc. Various characters end up with three, if not four personalities over
> the course of the show.
One of the things that they had trouble with is that Kevin Kilner--who
played Companion protector William Boone--came up to the producers
near the end of the first season and asked to be let out of his
contract because he had the chance to make some movies. They agreed.
If you view all of what happened in the story to William Boone instead
of Liam Kincaid, I think that everything that happened later will make
a bit more sense to you.
>
> For the fifth season, exactly one actor remains who was in the regular cast of
> the first season. The show had some decent actors, whose careers I fear have
> been ruined forever for association with this dreck.
Are you talking about this past season or the new season? This past
season was season 4. There have been changes because that's what the
storyline called for. If you're talking about the fifth season which
will premiere in October will have cast changes because of the events
in the season finale.
> I get a kick out of "The Invisible Man". The Jewish sidekick cracks me up. I
> like the banter among the cast, the obsequious assistant-to, even occassional
> exploration of moral dilemnas... The show is fun, doesn't take itself too
> seriously, and has a dirt-cheap budget, the way sci-fi is meant to be.
I went back http://www.efc.com and did a little looking around. It
didn't say anything about it being cancelled and it talked about guest
stars and new cast members. It says that fifth season of "Gene
Roddenberry's Earth: Final Conflict" is set to premiere on October
6th.
One possiblity is that you saw series finale when it actually said
season finale. I've done that. I turned my head slightly and saw it
out of the corner of my eye. I can't remember what series it was for
though.
I'd venture the opinion that it's actually a hell of a great deal better.
I don't watch X-files, so I don't know if it's as consistently bad as the
few episodes I've seen, but a co-worker brings his portable TV to work to
watch Voyager, and the dialogue I've heard is some of the most dismal
writing I've encountered this side of Baywatch.
Willow with visible nipples? <drools>
It probably would have been better if they had been filming it as a *season*
finale. Because someone who obviously should survive that cliffhanger is
counted as *dead* for season 5 while one person who clearly *died* (the only
actor to be in every episode of the series to date) is going to be alive and
in all the episodes. But then, E:FC has had a chronic problem with the
writers being fired and new people going in different directions each year.
The moment it looks like a coherent storyline - the writers and a few actors
go bye bye.
Benjamin F. Elliott
Not that they would necessarily be hers. On Conan, Aly described the
waterpads she wore as Evil Willow, and said they had nipples on them.
Being evol makes your boobs bigger.
If you tape the movie, stop it right at that scene where he's going into
the past, you can just tape a blank screen after that, or static, and
the movie leave you feeling a lot better. ;)
Hey, what ever happened to the series? I think I watched one episode of
it.
>Willow with visible nipples? <drools>
>
You must have missed AH's Conan O'brien appearence. She wore a sheerish top
and was VERY happy to see Conan. This mad the camera man happy too, so he shot
her from the chest up all the time.
Come to think of it, it made me happy too.
UN
Plus she talked about porno for five minutes
No, I am not kidding
--
"I'm working on it." <http://www.psyche.kn-bremen.de/>
>>>just started on Earth: Final Conflict...
>>I take it you are watching "Earth: Final Conflict" in second run on SciFi
>>channel? I recommend that you try to catch all of the first-season episodes.
>>At least two-thirds of the first season was coherent, had some decent
>>writing and acting, and tried to stick to a CONSISTENT story arc. The
>>next three seasons threw out the arc, then threw out the next arc, then
>>threw out the next arc. Various characters end up with three, if not four
>>personalities over the course of the show.
>One of the things that they had trouble with is that Kevin Kilner--who
>played Companion protector William Boone--came up to the producers
>near the end of the first season and asked to be let out of his
>contract because he had the chance to make some movies. They agreed.
You appear to be spreading viscious gossip. Kilner has stated publicly, in
interviews and at fan conventions, that he was fired by the producers.
As Marysia hasn't seen this yet, I'll add some spoiler space.
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It is a fact that the scene in which Boone's molecules are dissipated in the
recovery tank by Zo'or was filmed AFTER production was complete on that
episode and edited in during post production. Sorry, but Kilner's story is
credible in that he was fired after he was finished with his scenes.
>For the fifth season, exactly one actor remains who was in the regular
>cast of the first season. The show had some decent actors, whose careers
>I fear have been ruined forever for association with this dreck.
>Are you talking about this past season or the new season?
It is unambiguous that I refer to the fifth season, to begin this fall. Note
the present tense.
>This past season was season 4. There have been changes because that's what
>the storyline called for. If you're talking about the fifth season which
>will premiere in October will have cast changes because of the events in
>the season finale.
I cannot agree that the numerous changes of the years to the cast, the
motivations of the characters, the numerous injuries inflicted up the arc and
the backstory were driven by the needs of the story. It all seems too random.
>>Invisible Man
>Not the one with "David McCallum" as "Dr. Daniel Westin", right?
Heh. That was from 1975. SciFi Channel may air it again; I've only seen a
portion of one episode.
Oh, I was talking about the series. I never saw the film, and I thought
that Time Cop was dire, until I saw Seven Days, which made me think
Time Cop was good by comparison.
Paul
UN, sometimes it is hard for me to recall that you are married with a
infant type baby daughter. Hehehe.
I recall way back when Charlie's Angels was a tv show that a costumer
for ABC-TV gushed that ABC S&P let them show the Angels' nipples
"cause the girls are sooo cute!"
I really don't think that UPN stands for Unfettered Prominent Nipples.
I really, really don't.
Anyone have a video clip of this on a web site, Please post the URL
Thanks
I liked the movie. But then, any excuse to see Mia Sara is a good
excuse.
Lisa
>
>> Invisible Man
>Not the one with "David McCallum" as "Dr. Daniel Westin", right?
I still have the novelization of the pilot of that one. It was way
fun for the time.
Lisa
"Adam H. Kerman" wrote:
> mar...@marysia.com wrote:
>
> >What is up with Charmed?
>
> >This is the second episode in a row with clearly visible nipples. Prue
> >yesterday and Phoebe today. You know I would think that all that demon
> >vanquishing would be comfier with a bra. Not that I'm complaining.
> >Perhaps this new demon slaying fashion trend will spread to Buffy.
>
> Is there any support for picketing the set?
Two tickets to Pittsburgh?
>> Well, I like it. It's not Buffy but I don't care. I still watch and
>> enjoy it.
>> Along with Witchblade, Sabrina, Seven Days, Invisible Man, Andromeda,
>> West Wing, Boston Public, Ally McBeal, just started on Earth: Final
>> Conflict...
>> I watch a lot of TV
>
>What, no Lexx? (Actually rather decent this season, in it's own silly
>way.)
Never got the hang of Lexx.
>Someone said they bailed on Charmed last season. I started watching the
>end of season 2 and found it fairly bad, but this past year I watched
>most episodes, because it was on right after Gilmore Girls, and I found
>it pretty enjoyable, for the most part. Often the dialogue is
>laughable, but somehow I liked it anyway.
I've enjoyed the Cole storyline (well, he's really cute).
>I can't condone watching Earth: Final Conflict, though...
It seems good so far, I've only seen about the 1st 4 episodes.
>Marysia wrote in message <707bntcv09gusad5r...@4ax.com>...
>>Well, I like it. It's not Buffy but I don't care. I still watch and
>>enjoy it.
>>Along with Witchblade, Sabrina, Seven Days, Invisible Man, Andromeda,
>>West Wing, Boston Public, Ally McBeal, just started on Earth: Final
>>Conflict...
>>I watch a lot of TV
>
>You can watch Seven Days without screaming? That's even worse
>than "Time cop"!
It ain't fine art but I like the lead guy.
>It's going to get worse before it get better. They are just using the old
>"Sex sells" routine and really aren't at all concerned about anything else.
>Including good writing, plots, acting, etc. You know...stuff nobody *ever*
>really cares about. *sigh*
Worse isn't the word I would use, personally.
It is possible to have sex/nudity and good plots/writing at the same
time you know, the one does not preclude the other. Just look at
Boogie Nights.
Not that I'm saying Charmed is a haven for quality writing but it's
sweet and I like it.
>"Marysia" <mar...@marysia.spannercom> wrote in message
>news:djc9nt8724ppukkkn...@4ax.com...
>> What is up with Charmed?
>>
>> This is the second episode in a row with clearly visible nipples. Prue
>> yesterday and Phoebe today. You know I would think that all that demon
>> vanquishing would be comfier with a bra. Not that I'm complaining.
>> Perhaps this new demon slaying fashion trend will spread to Buffy.
>"Marysia" <mar...@marysia.spannercom> wrote in message
>news:djc9nt8724ppukkkn...@4ax.com...
>> What is up with Charmed?
>> This is the second episode in a row with clearly visible nipples.
>
>You say that like it's a bad thing.
Bad no, surprising yes. I just thought they frowned on that sort of
thing in Prime Time.
>What's up with the "OT" posts? Should we rename this NG alt.tv.ot.posts?
It's called summertime dry spell syndrome.
Man, if I had known that I'd have shoplifted more as a teen!
>I just remembered there was one "Baywatch" series that was actually
>really good. It was called "Baywatch Nights". I decided to watch an
>episode early in it's first season to see how bad it was and was
>pleasantly surprised to find that it had very little in commmon with
>"Baywatch" and had more in common with "Riptide" and "Magnum P.I." It
>had the main character from "Baywatch"--the guy who played Michael
>Knight in the '80s series "Knight Rider"--working as a detective.
>That was before they started adding in ghosts, vampires, and aliens.
Are you sure you were watching Baywatch Nights?
As _I_ recall it, the very first episode (though I suppose it might
have been the first one _I_ saw) involved Mitch and his sidekick
(the yummy Angie Harmon) fighting what was essentially the Blob on
an off-shore oil drilling platform. When all their attempts to
destroy it otherwise failed, they came up with the plan of
destroying it by--I kid you not--ACTIVATING THE DRILLING PLATFORM'S
COMPUTERIZED SELF-DESTRUCT SYSTEM. Said system came complete with
multi-station activation routine and computer voice counting down to
destruction.
My roommate at the time and I fell on the floor and laughed til our
sides hurt. And then we laughed some more.
And then we made a point of never missing an episode because any
show that surreal was worth watching regularly.
That was season 2. X-Files lite.
David Hasselhoff noted that an episode of Baywatch with a
crocodile or an alligator had gotten very high ratings when
he spoke about the revamping of Baywatch Nights.
He failed to mention that there was a swimsuit magazine
photo shoot (for Sport magazine?) on the same Baywatch
episode.
;-)
[edited]
> Are you sure you were watching Baywatch Nights?
Yeah. The episodes I saw originally were straight detective stories.
Stalking, murder, and the like. The ghosts and aliens and haunted
houses came later.
>
> As _I_ recall it, the very first episode (though I suppose it might
> have been the first one _I_ saw) involved Mitch and his sidekick
> (the yummy Angie Harmon) fighting what was essentially the Blob on
> an off-shore oil drilling platform. When all their attempts to
> destroy it otherwise failed, they came up with the plan of
> destroying it by--I kid you not--ACTIVATING THE DRILLING PLATFORM'S
> COMPUTERIZED SELF-DESTRUCT SYSTEM. Said system came complete with
> multi-station activation routine and computer voice counting down to
> destruction.
>
> My roommate at the time and I fell on the floor and laughed til our
> sides hurt. And then we laughed some more.
>
> And then we made a point of never missing an episode because any
> show that surreal was worth watching regularly.
I didn't see that episode. I did see a couple of the weirder
episodes. I just couldn't get into them because I found them so
goofy. But I guess it's because I saw it when it was just a regular
detective series.
If it had just started out with the goofy storylines instead of adding
them later, I might have enjoyed them more.
Also, is your email address a reference to "The Destroyer" series of
novels and/or "Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins"? I love that
movie. I only have one of the novels. It had quite a bit of action
in it, but the political satire and how it made fun of certain
"journalists" was worth the cover price.
Okay. I thought I caught it at the beginning, but I must be wrong.
> > My roommate at the time and I fell on the floor and laughed til our
> > sides hurt. And then we laughed some more.
> >
> > And then we made a point of never missing an episode because any
> > show that surreal was worth watching regularly.
>
> I didn't see that episode. I did see a couple of the weirder
> episodes. I just couldn't get into them because I found them so
> goofy. But I guess it's because I saw it when it was just a regular
> detective series.
>
> If it had just started out with the goofy storylines instead of adding
> them later, I might have enjoyed them more.
Well, we certainly enjoyed them.
> Also, is your email address a reference to "The Destroyer" series of
> novels and/or "Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins"?
It certainly is.
> I love that
> movie. I only have one of the novels. It had quite a bit of action
> in it, but the political satire and how it made fun of certain
> "journalists" was worth the cover price.
The movie had it's moments, but it doesn't compare (in my opinion) to
the novels. I've got most of them, and they vary in quality somewhat
(depending on who was ghosting them once the creators stopped writing
them), but they're generally a lot of fun. (And the current
ghostwriter has a real feel for the material--if you can find them,
read them.)
>This is the second episode in a row with clearly visible nipples.
Should we assume that this is only the second episode you've seen?
Or should we expect a weekly post saying "this is the xxxx episode in
a row......"
Scott Peterson
--
At least I have a positive attitude
about my destructive habits.
>What is up with Charmed?
>
>This is the second episode in a row with clearly visible nipples. Prue
>yesterday and Phoebe today. You know I would think that all that demon
>vanquishing would be comfier with a bra. Not that I'm complaining.
>Perhaps this new demon slaying fashion trend will spread to Buffy.
Are you certain you didn't mean to say second season in a row?
....just an observation
cor...@aol.comamber (Corwin2) wrote:
>Are you certain you didn't mean to say second season in a row?
>
>....just an observation
Actually, that would be third season in a row.
--
Ben: I wish it didn't have to be this way.
Dawn: And I wish you'd fall on your head and drown in your own barf.
I guess we're both going to be disappointed.
>This is the second episode in a row with clearly visible nipples. Prue
>yesterday and Phoebe today. You know I would think that all that demon
>vanquishing would be comfier with a bra. Not that I'm complaining.
>Perhaps this new demon slaying fashion trend will spread to Buffy.
You're just now noticing Charmed Nipplerama? It's the only friggen
reason I watch that thing. Certainly not for the engaging plots or the
terrific acting. Monotone me another incantation girls.
>Well, I like it. It's not Buffy but I don't care. I still watch and
>enjoy it.
>
>Along with Witchblade, Sabrina, Seven Days, Invisible Man, Andromeda,
>West Wing, Boston Public, Ally McBeal, just started on Earth: Final
>Conflict...
>
>I watch a lot of TV
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiggghhhh....
>You can watch Seven Days without screaming? That's even worse
>than "Time cop"!
Ooooooooooooohh no it's not
>><mar...@marysia.spannercom> writes:
>>>What is up with Charmed?
>>>
>>>This is the second episode in a row with clearly visible nipples. Prue
>>>yesterday and Phoebe today. You know I would think that all that demon
>>>vanquishing would be comfier with a bra. Not that I'm complaining.
>>>Perhaps this new demon slaying fashion trend will spread to Buffy.
>
>cor...@aol.comamber (Corwin2) wrote:
>>Are you certain you didn't mean to say second season in a row?
>>
>>....just an observation
>
>Actually, that would be third season in a row.
The first season was relatively tame.
Yeah, the spells suck ass. What is this obsession with rhyming
couplets giving you magical powers?
>>You're just now noticing Charmed Nipplerama? It's the only friggen
>>reason I watch that thing. Certainly not for the engaging plots or the
>>terrific acting. Monotone me another incantation girls.
>
>Yeah, the spells suck ass. What is this obsession with rhyming
>couplets giving you magical powers?
The extra effort you put into making the spell rhyme is part of the
total energy expended, thus making it more effective. But spells are
also more effective if you chant the incantation with some FEELING.
They really need to get a clue...
They also work better if you say them in the nude. ;)
So, you're saying that some fans are praying the BTVS production studios
will be kept at a cold temperature this season?
-George
on the effectiveness of spells
>They also work better if you say them in the nude. ;)
Yes, but unless Charmed is shooting European versions, no
one will see that on a show made for American broadcast
television.
(J)
>on the effectiveness of spells
>
>>They also work better if you say them in the nude. ;)
>
>Yes, but unless Charmed is shooting European versions, no
>one will see that on a show made for American broadcast
>television.
We can dream can't we?
Sure we could. They'd just coyly shoot everything so that all the
"naughty bits" are covered.
They actually did that once. They could use that digitized effect to block out
the naughty bits.
Why can't we see butts? We can see guys' butts on NYPD Blue, why not cute
girls' butts on Charmed?
-- Mike Zeares
>In article <3b7e0504....@news.newsguy.com>, sin...@pacifier.com says...
>>
>>cor...@aol.comamber (Corwin2)'s OS imploded like a damaged
>>submarine on 17 Aug 2001 23:21:13 GMT, but the the following SOS was
>>heard:
>>
>>>David Cheatham <da...@creeknet.com> writes:
>>>
>>>on the effectiveness of spells
>>>
>>>>They also work better if you say them in the nude. ;)
>>>
>>>Yes, but unless Charmed is shooting European versions, no
>>>one will see that on a show made for American broadcast
>>>television.
>>
>>Sure we could. They'd just coyly shoot everything so that all the
>>"naughty bits" are covered.
>
>They actually did that once. They could use that digitized effect to block out
>the naughty bits.
>
>Why can't we see butts? We can see guys' butts on NYPD Blue, why not cute
>girls' butts on Charmed?
Uhmm...because Dennis Franz's butt isn't considered a sex object?
Or, I know, the actresses refuse to do it until and unless the
nudity is dramatically necessary. Yeah--that's it.
> Mike Zeares <mze...@yahoo.com>'s OS imploded like a damaged
> submarine on 18 Aug 2001 07:09:46 -0700, but the the following SOS
> was heard:
>
> >In article <3b7e0504....@news.newsguy.com>, sin...@pacifier.com says
> >>
> >>cor...@aol.comamber (Corwin2)'s OS imploded like a damaged
> >>submarine on 17 Aug 2001 23:21:13 GMT, but the the following SOS was
> >>heard:
> >>
> >>>David Cheatham <da...@creeknet.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>>on the effectiveness of spells
> >>>
> >>>>They also work better if you say them in the nude. ;)
> >>>
> >>>Yes, but unless Charmed is shooting European versions, no
> >>>one will see that on a show made for American broadcast
> >>>television.
> >>
> >>Sure we could. They'd just coyly shoot everything so that all the
> >>"naughty bits" are covered.
> >
> >They actually did that once. They could use that digitized effect to
> >block out the naughty bits.
> >
> >Why can't we see butts? We can see guys' butts on NYPD Blue, why not
> >cute girls' butts on Charmed?
>
> Uhmm...because Dennis Franz's butt isn't considered a sex object?
What about Sharon Lawrence's?
>
> Or, I know, the actresses refuse to do it until and unless the
> nudity is dramatically necessary. Yeah--that's it.
Then it is a good thing showing their nipples is dramatically necessary.
>Mark Jones <sin...@pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>> Mike Zeares <mze...@yahoo.com>'s OS imploded like a damaged
>> submarine on 18 Aug 2001 07:09:46 -0700, but the the following SOS
>> was heard:
>> >Why can't we see butts? We can see guys' butts on NYPD Blue, why not
>> >cute girls' butts on Charmed?
>>
>> Uhmm...because Dennis Franz's butt isn't considered a sex object?
>
>What about Sharon Lawrence's?
Have we seen her naked butt on NYPD Blue? I don't watch that show.
If so, my theory doesn't hold water.
>> Or, I know, the actresses refuse to do it until and unless the
>> nudity is dramatically necessary. Yeah--that's it.
>
>Then it is a good thing showing their nipples is dramatically necessary.
Yep. Damn good thing.
> cmn-n...@houston.rr.com (Mark Nobles)'s OS imploded like a damaged
> submarine on Sat, 18 Aug 2001 21:25:13 GMT, but the the following
> SOS was heard:
Sorry, Mac user. OS never implodes.
>
> >Mark Jones <sin...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mike Zeares <mze...@yahoo.com>'s OS imploded like a damaged
> >> submarine on 18 Aug 2001 07:09:46 -0700, but the the following SOS
> >> was heard:
>
> >> >Why can't we see butts? We can see guys' butts on NYPD Blue, why not
> >> >cute girls' butts on Charmed?
> >>
> >> Uhmm...because Dennis Franz's butt isn't considered a sex object?
> >
> >What about Sharon Lawrence's?
>
> Have we seen her naked butt on NYPD Blue? I don't watch that show.
> If so, my theory doesn't hold water.
Oh yeah. She climbed in the shower with Franz. There was another time.
>
> >> Or, I know, the actresses refuse to do it until and unless the
> >> nudity is dramatically necessary. Yeah--that's it.
> >
> >Then it is a good thing showing their nipples is dramatically necessary.
>
> Yep. Damn good thing.
Yep. Damn good.
I think you might well be in danger of overdosing on that *particular*
dream - you don't want to go blind, do you?
Paul
I seem to be reading a lot of posts about visible nipples around here
recently -- with the implication that if a woman's nipples are
visible, she must be indecently dressed.
Not trying to be critical, I'm just curious. I mean, most lightweight
fabrics will show a woman's nipples if she gets a blast of air
conditioning, especially in the skimpier tops that the Charmed girls
tend to wear. Clothes like that are very comfortable in hot weather
-- much nicer than the heavy fabrics and thick bras necessary to
ensure that nipples never show. So, what's the big deal?
In fact, the whole obsession with bras and keeping women's breasts
well-covered and under control has always confused me a little. I'm
told that most men like women's breasts. Why do they seem to want to
see less of them?
Bethany
Ah, but did Europe and Australia, etc. get an undigitized version?
No one wants to see less of them, people were just pointing out that
showing nipples was an obvious ratings ploy. Just like having them walk
around in swimsuits would be. It's not 'indecent', it's just 'less
clothing than is plausible'.
As for bras, most men would really be just as happy if women didn't wear
them. ;)
Um - that's sort of dependant on the woman. Do you really want to see Rosie
'pig lady' ODonnell braless?
Raise your hand if 'ewwwwww'
David Cheatham wrote:
>
> No one wants to see less of them, people were just pointing out that
> showing nipples was an obvious ratings ploy. Just like having them walk
> around in swimsuits would be. It's not 'indecent', it's just 'less
> clothing than is plausible'.
>
> As for bras, most men would really be just as happy if women didn't wear
> them. ;)
Assuming that it is true that a 50 year old woman will look better if
she has been wearing a bra all of her life that if she has not then I
want them to wear them, because I always plan for the long term.