Here's the scoop on Marsters!
Silvermoon
Birthdate: August 20, 1971
Birthplace: Greenville, California
Occupation: Actor
Claim to Fame: Plays Spike on Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Significant Other(s):
Liz Stauber, actor; began dating in 1997
Family:
Father: Former minister
Mother: Social worker
Sister: Susan Marsters; born 1960
Brother: Paul Marsters; born 1964
Factoids:
Co-founded the Genesis Theater Company in Chicago
Education:
Pacific Conservatory of the Performing Arts at Allan Hancock College, Santa
Maria, California
The Julliard School, New York, New York
http://netscape.eonline.com/Facts/People/Bio/0,128,69323,00.html
Rose
> Birth Name: James Wesley Marsters
> Birthdate: August 20, 1971
:::bangs head on desk:::
Rose
"You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore." -- Richard Nixon
Carmikl
>
> Birth Name: James Wesley Marsters
> Birthdate: August 20, 1971
> Birthplace: Greenville, California
> Occupation: Actor
>
> Claim to Fame: Plays Spike on Buffy the Vampire Slayer
> Significant Other(s):
> Liz Stauber, actor; began dating in 1997
>
> Family:
> Father: Former minister
> Mother: Social worker
> Sister: Susan Marsters; born 1960
> Brother: Paul Marsters; born 1964
>
1962 would fit right in.
Shorty
Its amazing but like many women i know he keeps getting younger as the
years go by!
William George Ferguson
online until last December). These are *all* the 'James Marsters' who
were born in California in the 20th century.
Last_Name First Middle B_yr mo dy Mothers_Last_Name Sex County
MARSTERS JAMES C 1957 07 20 DORSEY MALE LOS ANGELES
MARSTERS JAMES W 1962 08 20 RAYMOND MALE PLUMAS
MARSTERS JAMES WILLIAM 1935 05 22 WAHL MALE SISKIYOU
(Note that Greenville is in Plumas County)
Strangely, I tend to believe the State of California over E! Online.
More fun. Check out his various online bios. If he was born in 1971,
then he was appearing in The Tempest in Chicago when he was 14 and
founded the Genesis Theatre Company in Chicago when he was 16 (this
was after attending the Pacific Conservatory and Julliard, of course).
--
I have a theory
It could be bunnies
Rose
>From: William George Ferguson wmgf...@newsguy.com
>Date: 5/29/2002 10:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9ocbfuk565jtg28sh...@4ax.com>
Shyeah, like the State of California is never wrong. Remember, the State of
California has two i's, but cannot see.
>More fun. Check out his various online bios. If he was born in 1971,
>then he was appearing in The Tempest in Chicago when he was 14 and
>founded the Genesis Theatre Company in Chicago when he was 16 (this
>was after attending the Pacific Conservatory and Julliard, of course).
>
It could happen!
paulcs
I lived near Julliard, used their library, attended concerts at
Lincoln Center, did things I'm not proud of in the complex (and in
Avery Fisher Hall), etc. I'm not buying that James Marsters was a
theatre student at Julliard at 16.
It could happen and I could be the Queen of France. :)
Paul
Sandra S.
I mean- this topic comes up about once every two months, with all kinds of
sources cited.
Who really cares how old he is?
Charisma Carpenter has the wrong birthdate listed in most of her bios and
nobody says anything about that. Why the double standard?
Sandra
"paulcs" <pau...@address.not> wrote in message
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Craven0r
Rose
<snip>
>>
>>
>I lived near Julliard, used their library, attended concerts at
>Lincoln Center, did things I'm not proud of in the complex (and in
>Avery Fisher Hall), etc. I'm not buying that James Marsters was a
>theatre student at Julliard at 16.
>
So you're saying James couldn't have been a prodigy? A boy genius?
>It could happen and I could be the Queen of France. :)
>
So how do I know you're not? Can you prove it?
Rose
>Date: 5/30/2002 6:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <ad57e3$mbv$1...@nntp-m01.news.aol.com>
>
>What I don't get is why it matters so much to so many people!
>I mean- this topic comes up about once every two months, with all kinds of
>sources cited.
>Who really cares how old he is?
>
>Charisma Carpenter has the wrong birthdate listed in most of her bios and
>nobody says anything about that. Why the double standard?
>
Maybe the people who are concerned are in their teens.
At my advanced age of thirty mumble, I'm as pleased as punch. Means I wasn't a
Dirty Old Woman when I first started drooling over him. ;)
Carmikl
>
> >Subject: Re: Here's the scoop on Marsters!
> >From: paulcs pau...@address.not
>
> <snip>
>
> >>
> >>
> >I lived near Julliard, used their library, attended concerts at
> >Lincoln Center, did things I'm not proud of in the complex (and in
> >Avery Fisher Hall), etc. I'm not buying that James Marsters was a
> >theatre student at Julliard at 16.
> >
>
> So you're saying James couldn't have been a prodigy? A boy genius?
>
> >It could happen and I could be the Queen of France. :)
> >
>
> So how do I know you're not? Can you prove it?
>
Michell
>>
>>What I don't get is why it matters so much to so many people!
>>I mean- this topic comes up about once every two months, with all kinds of
>>sources cited.
>>Who really cares how old he is?
>>
>>Charisma Carpenter has the wrong birthdate listed in most of her bios and
>>nobody says anything about that. Why the double standard?
>>
>
>Maybe the people who are concerned are in their teens.
My thoughts exactly. I ugess some teen's aren't comfortable having
lusted after an "really" old guy. I think the reaction is something
like: "ewwww.. he can't be older than my parents!"
Face it, he's old :)
paulcs
>>Subject: Re: Here's the scoop on Marsters!
>>From: paulcs pau...@address.not
>
><snip>
>
>>>
>>>
>>I lived near Julliard, used their library, attended concerts at
>>Lincoln Center, did things I'm not proud of in the complex (and in
>>Avery Fisher Hall), etc. I'm not buying that James Marsters was a
>>theatre student at Julliard at 16.
>>
>
>So you're saying James couldn't have been a prodigy? A boy genius?
>
I'm sure Julliard has its share of prodigies -- in the music
department.
>>It could happen and I could be the Queen of France. :)
>>
>
>So how do I know you're not? Can you prove it?
>
>
I can indeed. France is a republic.
Paul
Janette
It has always baffled me.....especially after the rape
scene.
A long time ago in a galaxy far far way fyl...@aol.comspam
(Rose) wrote:
>At my advanced age of thirty mumble, I'm as pleased as punch. Means I wasn't a
>Dirty Old Woman when I first started drooling over him. ;)
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Jane Davitt
> I've understood why anyone would be drooling over JM.
> It has always baffled me.....especially after the rape
> scene.
>
>
If you replaced 'JM' with 'Spike' I'm sure the actor would feel
better. I'm assuming there's a 'never' missing between 'I've' and
'understood' too?
And it's a classic, YMMV situation. I could describe the attraction
Spike has for me physically and emotionally in great detail but if
he doesn't tickle your taste buds, it'll just be unconvincing words.
But there are many Spike fans out there and in here and I don't
think the bathroom scene diminished their numbers significantly.It
didn't put me off at all.
Jane
Isab...@webtv.net
Birthdate: August 20, 1971
:::bangs head on desk:::>>>
LOL, move over, Rose, I need head-banging room too. Oh, and Liz broke
up with him a year ago.
Janette
understood.
What is YMMV?
I for one found the bathroom scene
absolutely disgusting.
A long time ago in a galaxy far far way Jane Davitt
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Dan
>From: "Silvermoon" chil...@CF.net
>Date: 5/29/02 10:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <A1gJ8.42547$R_4....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
>
> Birth Name: James Wesley Marsters
> Birthdate: August 20, 1971
He's *younger* than me? Wow, I'd have never guessed.
Dan
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Isab...@webtv.net
I've understood why anyone would be drooling over JM. It has always
baffled me.....especially after the rape scene.>>>
Well, drool-ability is in the eye of the beholder. He's certainly not
ugly. Also please keep in mind that JM was merely acting during the
rape scene--he himself hasn't actually raped, or attempted to rape,
anyone (as far as we know, of course...)
This brings to mind a conversation I had with a woman in my office about
the show The West Wing. She told me she doesn't like to watch Martin
Sheen as an actor because of his "kooky political views" I asked her
what that had to do with his acting, and she had no answer for me...
nimue
"Michell" <michell...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Au contraire! I am THRILLED he is almost 40 -- older than I am, thank the
gods! It was sort of humiliating when I thought he was younger.
nimue
"Jane Davitt" <jdav...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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I am a HUGE Spike fan, and I don't think he tried to rape Buffy.
>
> --
> http://www.heinleinsociety.org
>
Jane Davitt
> Yes, there was supposed to be a "never" between I've and
> understood.
>
> What is YMMV?
>
> I for one found the bathroom scene
> absolutely disgusting.
>
>
>
YMMV; Your mileage may vary. Means that one man's meat is another
man's poison sort of thing. Something to do with ads for cars where
they use this phrase to cover themselves as what they say the car
will do to the gallon isn't necessarily what every customer will
get, as driving habits vary so much.
The bathroom scene was disturbing, intentionally so, but in context
it was grey not black and white.
My honest opinion of that scene between those characters, emphasis
on 'characters', was that it was symptomatic of the way the writers
swung back and forth in dealing with Spike and Buffy's relationship
and break up. Confused messages, muddy rationalisation and
inexplicable actions. So it doesn't bother me that much. Unless you
mean that the poor plotting was disgusting.In which case I'll say
that I can see how Spike got to that point but it wasn't the only
way it could have gone, based on what he'd said and done before.
And it doesn't seem to have bothered Buffy over much either. She
doesn't hate Spike, she doesn't blame him, or want him dusted, she
still trusts him to take care of Dawn. Which is pretty incredible
considering the way she's misinterpreted and misunderstood him most
of the season - she picks a funny time to be empathy girl but there
you go. That's Buffy for you.
Jane
Arnold Kim
More than that, I think it hurts suspension of disbelief. I've been out of
my teens for a few years now (I'm almost 24) and I feel a little awkward
when people who clearly look my age are playing high school kids.
Arnold Kim
Heather
I just asked because I thought he was a lot younger... but it makes no
difference to me. And I'm not a teen.
.:...heather...:.
"We are not human beings trying to be spiritual;
we are spiritual beings trying to be human."
(Jacquleyn Small)
Heather
>think the bathroom scene diminished their numbers significantly.It
>didn't put me off at all.
I second that. I was disappointed with it, but he's Spike. Spike is gooooood.
:)
Heather
>>
Well, I'm a HUGE Spike fan, too -- but I do think he tried to rape her.
Although... if he hadn't been soft Spike for a couple of seasons prior, we
would've just chalked that scene up to Spike being his bad self.
TheDeb
> On 30 May 2002 20:37:04 GMT, fyl...@aol.comspam (Rose) wrote:
>
> >>Subject: Re: Here's the scoop on Marsters!
I've been lurking this site and several other Bufy sites for the last
3 months and I'm always amazed and amused at how threads debating JM's
age just keep reappearing. The man is 39. He's admitted it in several
interviews, the most recent of which is a USAToday Weekend article
sometime in February. A poster at one of the other Buffy sites I
frequent posted a link to the article. Fellow posters would follow the
link to the article, read it and come back and say, "No, he is so not
39." Believe it, he's 39. And being 39 is not a bad thing.
I should know. I'm 40.
TheDeb40
Rose
>Date: 5/30/2002 4:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <biedfu4gcrol2m071...@4ax.com>
>
>I've understood why anyone would be >drooling over JM.
He's some people's type. And of course, not the type of other people. "God
loves wondrous variety." -- Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.
>It has always baffled me.....especially after the rape
>scene.
Psst. c'mere.
jm didn't try to rape anyone. he was playing a character. it was all pretend.
Rose
>Date: 5/30/2002 7:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <ad6n0c$lpk$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>
James was never playing a h.s. kid tho. More like an eternal 22 or 23 year old
when he started out.
Rose
>From: paulcs pau...@address.not
>Message-id: <ba6dfucvrclbi9nm6...@4ax.com>
So is Great Britain. It has a queen.
paulcs
[snip]
>>>
>>>
>>I can indeed. France is a republic.
>
>So is Great Britain. It has a queen.
>
>
>
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a
constitutional monarchy (thus that kingdom business). Therefore, it
cannot be a republic.
The Fifth Republic (not to be confused with France's Second, Third, or
Fourth Republics, Vichy [shhhh], the Empire or the Second Empire, much
less the Old Regine, the Bourbon restoration, or the Orleanist
monarchy) is in fact a republic. No monarch. No Queen.
I am not the Queen of France.
Yours truly,
Napoleon Bonaparte
Emperor of France
P.S. Wellington sucks!
WindS...@webtv.net
>Silvermoon wrote:
>> Birth Name: James Wesley
>>Marsters
>> Birthdate: August 20, 1971
<snip for brevity>
>>Sister: Susan Marsters; born 1960
>>Brother: Paul Marsters; born 1964
>The tell is probably in the birth dates of
>his siblings. A birth date of 1962 would
>fit right in.
Not necessarily :-) I agree with your conclusion, but not how you got
there. Before knowing about the "mystery" of JM's d.o.b. I had him
pegged as being of an age with my older sibs (born in '62, '63, and
'64). It was a bit of a surprise when I heard he was reputed to be
closer to my age (I was born in '70), and I thought, "Too much sun and
smokes aged him before his time."
Far more suggestive than the lines in his forehead: the man dated
himself when, at some con or other, he referred to himself as a "dork".
That's what my sister calls me. If he were my age, he'd be more likely
to call himself a "geek" (as I do).
Windy
Sine
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Well, I'm a HUGE Spike fan too, and I think you're in total denial about
what was actually shown onscreen.
- He lost control and tried to rape her.
- She kicked him across the room.
- He came to his senses and was horrified
at what he'd been about to do.
If he didn't try to rape her, there would not have been allt he flashbacks
and self-reproach. Nor
would he have set out to get his soul. It's the
fact that he DID try to rape her that appalled
him so badly that he had to do something BIG
to make sure he could never hurt her like that
again.
> >
>
>
Jane Davitt
>
> Well, I'm a HUGE Spike fan too, and I think you're in total denial about
> what was actually shown onscreen.
> - He lost control and tried to rape her.
> - She kicked him across the room.
> - He came to his senses and was horrified
> at what he'd been about to do.
>
> If he didn't try to rape her, there would not have been allt he flashbacks
> and self-reproach. Nor
> would he have set out to get his soul. It's the
> fact that he DID try to rape her that appalled
> him so badly that he had to do something BIG
> to make sure he could never hurt her like that
> again.
>
>>
>
>
I think most people agree that he did not actually rape her (and I
don't think Buffy would have been so amazingly understanding about
it if he had).
Attempted to? From our POV as watchers, yes, from inside his head,
no, not while he was doing it. For Buffy? Yes.
Spike thought he was doing something to make Buffy feel alive,
thought that now the secret was out she could openly enjoy what they
had shared, thought that if she could just let him try one more
time, she'd be convinced...all wrong of course and pitifully blind
to the reality of the situation.
The guilt came afterwards because Spike was sorry for his actions
and rightly so....but the actions themselves were not inspired by
evil IMO. He was just crippled by tunnel vision.I don't think for a
minute that he thought what he was doing was rape until that kick
jolted him into awareness. Doesn't excuse him but it's a whole
different thing than a deliberate, planned rape.
Parker's seduction disgusted me more and yet technically that was
all above board and consensual.
Jane
Rose
>Date: 5/30/2002 9:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20020531001206...@mb-ff.aol.com>
>
>>Maybe the people who are concerned are in their teens
>
>I just asked because I thought he was a lot younger... but it makes no
>difference to me. And I'm not a teen.
>
>.:...heather...:.
I wasn't directing that comment at you personally. A lot of people just refuse
to believe what is on record.
Arnold Kim
Rose <fyl...@aol.comspam> wrote in message
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Whoops, I misread the part about Charisma Carpenter. Anyway, I wouldn't
have pegged Spike as being physically about 22 or 23, even when he first
entered the series. I would have guessed more like 28 or so.
Arnold Kim
Pamela J. Ashworth
>
>More fun. Check out his various online bios. If he was born in 1971,
>then he was appearing in The Tempest in Chicago when he was 14 and
>founded the Genesis Theatre Company in Chicago when he was 16 (this
>was after attending the Pacific Conservatory and Julliard, of course).
>
>--
I've got it! He's actually Sam Beckett!
Pam from Boston
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"paulcs" <pau...@address.not> wrote in message
Oh, well done! Bravo!! BTW, did you ever see Woody Allen's Love and Death?
Wellington and Napolean are in a battle to -- create the perfect dish: Beef
Wellington, or the Napolean dessert. Very funny, but not as funny as you!
:-))
>
>
drahmiel
>The man is 39. He's admitted it in several
>interviews,
Whats the big deal? Its not like he's Luke Perry, 39 and trying to play a
teenager. I mean, isn't his character supposed to be some 150 years old?
Rose
>Date: 5/31/2002 6:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <ZJVJ8.4726$uH6.1...@twister.nyc.rr.com>
>
>
>"paulcs" <pau...@address.not> wrote in message
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>> On 31 May 2002 05:39:35 GMT, fyl...@aol.comspam (Rose) wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>I can indeed. France is a republic.
>> >
>> >So is Great Britain. It has a queen.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a
>> constitutional monarchy (thus that kingdom business). Therefore, it
>> cannot be a republic.
>>
>> The Fifth Republic (not to be confused with France's Second, Third, or
>> Fourth Republics, Vichy [shhhh], the Empire or the Second Empire, much
>> less the Old Regine, the Bourbon restoration, or the Orleanist
>> monarchy) is in fact a republic. No monarch. No Queen.
>>
>> I am not the Queen of France.
>>
>>
>> Yours truly,
>>
>>
>> Napoleon Bonaparte
>> Emperor of France
>>
You're Napoleon Bonaparte?
So you ARE the Queen of France! hahahahaha!
Demon Prince of Absurdity Snarky
asked, in alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, and WindS...@webtv.net answered:
>Carmikl responds:
Not necessarily, again...I'm just a couple years older than him, and I
remember being called a *dork* in high school. Odds are, his siblings
called him that at some point, which seems far more likely even than
getting it from his peers...Anyway, my nearly-two-years-younger sister
called me a dork, on occasion. Epithets like that stick around awhile.
Snarky, geek/dork/nerd/dweeb par excellence, but no longer looking it;-{)}
Demon Prince of Absurdity Snarky
>TheDeb wrote:
>
>>The man is 39. He's admitted it in several interviews,
>
>Whats the big deal? Its not like he's Luke Perry, 39 and trying to play a
>teenager. I mean, isn't his character supposed to be some 150 years old?
In all, yes -- including his life prior to being turned.
Snarky, still wishing that ME hadn't decided to directly contradict "School
Hard" (using the same character's words, yet)