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William George Ferguson

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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It would be cool to start this off by saying I forgot how much I
enjoyed this ep, but it would be a lie. I'm a sucker for well done
schmaltz, and this is Really well done schmaltz.

There are just so darn many things to like, where to start.

"yay?"

The original 'heart-breaking sewer talk'.

On re-watching, how could there even have been a debate over who paid
for the dress?

"I think horrible is still coming. Right now, it's worse."

The world, and especially Angel, ensure that Buffy won't have 'that
perfect high school moment', and the SHS Class of 99 gives it back to
her. Still gets me.

For the Brits who hang around here, are blueberry scones more or less
emotionally mature than regular scones?

"Oh come on, that song sucks."

And Jonathon and his date even get in the significant couple pan at
the end.


Kristin Branson

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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William George Ferguson <fr...@primenet.com> wrote:
: It would be cool to start this off by saying I forgot how much I

: enjoyed this ep, but it would be a lie. I'm a sucker for well done
: schmaltz, and this is Really well done schmaltz.

the sock puppet of love

Tucker's maladjust motive followed by "Whatever.
Every maladjust has his reasons."

<< So that's how you did it? That's how you
brainwashed the hounds to go psycho on prom?
<< Neat, huh?

Buffy's "little toy surprise"

(I liked the episode lots, too)

Angel

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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I have a question - the stack of videos that hell hound raiser
guy used to condition the hell hounds to attack ppl in formal
wear included a bunch of classic prommy movies like Pretty in
Pink, Carrie etc, and...Pump Up the Volume. Is my memory fried or
is there nothing resembling a prom scene in that film?


-Angel

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Don Sample

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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In article <05170db2...@usw-ex0103-018.remarq.com>, Angel
<sugar_coma_...@my-deja.com.invalid> wrote:

> I have a question - the stack of videos that hell hound raiser
> guy used to condition the hell hounds to attack ppl in formal
> wear included a bunch of classic prommy movies like Pretty in
> Pink, Carrie etc, and...Pump Up the Volume. Is my memory fried or
> is there nothing resembling a prom scene in that film?
>
>
> -Angel

Maybe Tucker picked it up to watch himself in the other room while the
hounds were watching their training flicks.

:)

(Or maybe they people who made the tape labels thought it would be cool
to use the title of a film that Seth Green and Juliet Landau were in.)

Tom Breton

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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William George Ferguson <fr...@primenet.com> writes:

>
> On re-watching, how could there even have been a debate over who paid
> for the dress?

And on rewatching, something occured to me. Remember in The Freshman,
Xander's engine fell out and he had no money with which to repair it
or get home? And he had to take a job as a stripper?

Re-watching The Prom, that was because he spent his road-trip fund on
a tux and on Cordelia's dress, for which she never repaid him. This
wouldn't have happened if Xander hadn't guilted himself so excessively
over Cordelia. That wouldn't have happened if (first and foremost)
Xander hadn't been written as such a schmuck, if Cordelia hadn't been
so petty, and if Willow hadn't used and discarded him.

Lots of unresolved grievances there.

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Ian J. Ball

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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In article <puvdds8973nf16rva...@4ax.com>, William George
Ferguson <fr...@primenet.com> wrote:

> And Jonathon and his date even get in the significant couple pan at
> the end.

Somebody's missing from the final 'pan'. Is it Xander/Anya, or
Cordelia/Wesley? Either way, it bugs me, to this day, that someone was
left out of that 'pan'...

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Terry McNeal

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:29:10 GMT,
iball***death-to-SPAM***@socal.rr.com (Ian J. Ball) wrote:

>In article <puvdds8973nf16rva...@4ax.com>, William George
>Ferguson <fr...@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>> And Jonathon and his date even get in the significant couple pan at
>> the end.
>
>Somebody's missing from the final 'pan'. Is it Xander/Anya, or
>Cordelia/Wesley? Either way, it bugs me, to this day, that someone was
>left out of that 'pan'...

Xander/Anya got cut out. You can see Cordy and Wesley just over
Angel's shoulder as We Fade To Black. Ain't foreshadowing grand?

Terry

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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William George Ferguson <fr...@primenet.com> wrote in message
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> And Jonathon and his date even get in the significant couple pan at
> the end.
>
>

Say, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jonathon attempt suicide the
episode before? Wouldn't he have been forbidden to go to the Prom or put in
treatment or something?

Loved the ep, too, btw.

Christopher

William George Ferguson

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:29:10 GMT,
iball***death-to-SPAM***@socal.rr.com (Ian J. Ball) wrote:

>In article <puvdds8973nf16rva...@4ax.com>, William George


>Ferguson <fr...@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>> And Jonathon and his date even get in the significant couple pan at
>> the end.
>

>Somebody's missing from the final 'pan'. Is it Xander/Anya, or
>Cordelia/Wesley? Either way, it bugs me, to this day, that someone was
>left out of that 'pan'...

We see Xander/Anya first, then, as the camera pans with Buffy/Angel at
the center, Jonathon and a girl about a head taller (aka just about
any girl in the human race) go by. As the camera pulls back at the
end of the pan, Cordelia/Wesley are behind Buffy/Angel.

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Ian J. Ball

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Mar 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/22/00
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In article <alkgdsohb552p2q5v...@4ax.com>, William George
Ferguson <fr...@primenet.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:29:10 GMT,
> iball***death-to-SPAM***@socal.rr.com (Ian J. Ball) wrote:
>
> >In article <puvdds8973nf16rva...@4ax.com>, William George
> >Ferguson <fr...@primenet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> And Jonathon and his date even get in the significant couple pan at
> >> the end.
> >
> >Somebody's missing from the final 'pan'. Is it Xander/Anya, or
> >Cordelia/Wesley? Either way, it bugs me, to this day, that someone was
> >left out of that 'pan'...
>
> We see Xander/Anya first,

You mean Willow/Oz, don't you?

> then, as the camera pans with Buffy/Angel at
> the center, Jonathon and a girl about a head taller (aka just about
> any girl in the human race) go by. As the camera pulls back at the
> end of the pan, Cordelia/Wesley are behind Buffy/Angel.

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William George Ferguson

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Mar 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/22/00
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>William George Ferguson <fr...@primenet.com> wrote:
>> We see Xander/Anya first,

iball***death-to-SPAM***@socal.rr.com (Ian J. Ball) wrote:
>You mean Willow/Oz, don't you?

I think you're right, but Ill have to wait till I get home to check.

>> then, as the camera pans with Buffy/Angel at
>> the center, Jonathon and a girl about a head taller (aka just about
>> any girl in the human race) go by. As the camera pulls back at the
>> end of the pan, Cordelia/Wesley are behind Buffy/Angel.

I guess I'll just have to force myself somehow to watch it again, just
to make sure.


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