Allyson H on Stern Show
Irulan
another actress, Natasha L (?) were with her and of course Howard spent most
of the time asking Tara Reid about her relationship with Carson Daley. He
spent about 5 minutes with Ally and the moved on.
--
Irulan
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from now until the end of time
Jonathan Diehl
Maxim...I forget which it was. ZZZZ
Plus, it doesn't help that she's as ugly as sin. The hot chicks get all of
the attention.
"Irulan" <woo...@erols.com> wrote in message
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Paul Hammond
Jonathan Diehl wrote in message ...
>She's not that interesting. Did you read her interview in Stuff or
>Maxim...I forget which it was. ZZZZ
>
>Plus, it doesn't help that she's as ugly as sin. The hot chicks get all of
>the attention.
>
Sin must be rather attractive where you live then.
Honestly, there's *no* stretch of the imagination that can make AH
an ugly person, even if she's not to your taste.
And, in my world, Aly is hot, hot, HOT!
Paul
Stoneco864
>the attention.
PLONK
Wow, I finally made someones Sig!
Inmehd
you couldn't be any more chill than Stoneco864"
The Ma-jin
johndiem
I thought he was talking about Tara Reid, although I suppose the
only people in that room "ugly as sin" could apply to are the Stern
regulars. I find something off-putting about Tara Reid though. Or
maybe it's one of the other blondes, I forget.
Aly? Like the threads far above say, she's smokin'. After
barely keeping my eyes open long enough to watch her on Conan
O'Brien's show, I fell asleep and dreamt about her. But nothing from
the Playboy Q&A happened. And she dumped me at the end of it. My
sub-conscious sucks.
-Diem
lab~rat
>Just listened to this bit. Poor Ally got short-shrifted. Tara Reid and
>another actress, Natasha L (?) were with her and of course Howard spent most
>of the time asking Tara Reid about her relationship with Carson Daley. He
>spent about 5 minutes with Ally and the moved on.
Who was the Natasha chick? First, she sounded like she tokes four
packs a day, and second she claimed that she was originally asked to
be buffy?
I liked the way they called her a liar...
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
3finger
interview. Maybe he didn't know about it, maybe he ran out of time
dealing with Tara maybe Alyson's publicists requested that it not be
referred to. I agree, she didn't get a lot of time with him, which is
ironic considering at first she was the only cast member who would even
do the show. Before, no other female star was on board.
BTW, I saw AP2 last night, and it's nearly as good as the first. Best of
all, Alyson gets much more screen time than she did last time, and her
character has a very good resolution. No pies or flutes involved.
--
3finger
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Bill Reid
3finger <cubfan2...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Can't believe that Howard didn't even bring up Alyson's Playboy.com
> interview. Maybe he didn't know about it, maybe he ran out of time
> dealing with Tara maybe Alyson's publicists requested that it not be
> referred to.
Don't know anything about this Playboy interview, but she did
reveal: she has had "sort of" lesbian experiences because
she has kissed girls "but really just to tease boys"; the transportation
crew on "Buffy" demanded to be on the set during
the kissing scene in the dream episode "to protect the
ice cream truck"; and that Alexis Denisof has the most
beautiful genitalia "in the world".
> I agree, she didn't get a lot of time with him, which is
> ironic considering at first she was the only cast member who would even
> do the show.
But Stern didn't want her at all, too boring and quiet, the real
focus was the dogfight between Howard and Tara Reid
over his repeated assertions that she is the most obnoxious
annoying talentless airhead in Hollywood, primarily due to her
behavior after the Grammys where she jumped uninvited into
Howard's limo and kind of attached herself to him
for the rest of the night.
> Before, no other female star was on board.
Yeah, they finally convinced Tara Reid it's all good
as long as they pronounce your name right (and they
got back into the gell-ARE non-controversy featuring
a remarkably crude remark from that Natasha woman).
>
> BTW, I saw AP2 last night, and it's nearly as good as the first. Best of
> all, Alyson gets much more screen time than she did last time, and her
> character has a very good resolution. No pies or flutes involved.
>
Interesting salary details revealed by Hannigan: she got scale
for AP1, but got "over half a million" for AP2, with good
backend rights that could boost that to $2million if the
film does well. All this for about five days work.
---
William Ernest Reid
delirium
"Bill Reid" <horme...@happyhealthy.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Yeah, they finally convinced Tara Reid it's all good
> as long as they pronounce your name right (and they
> got back into the gell-ARE non-controversy featuring
> a remarkably crude remark from that Natasha woman).
Oo! What'd that ho say?
Thothmes
Paul Hammond
johndiem wrote in message <3b72af82...@news.bellatlantic.net>...
>
> Aly? Like the threads far above say, she's smokin'. After
>barely keeping my eyes open long enough to watch her on Conan
>O'Brien's show, I fell asleep and dreamt about her. But nothing from
>the Playboy Q&A happened. And she dumped me at the end of it. My
>sub-conscious sucks.
>
Bugger! You'd have thought you could fulfill your fantasies in
your dreams where they're not gonna hurt anyone else...
Paul
delirium
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How's both sound? I want to see the snark and see what Ms. Hannigan had to
say too. Hehheh.
3finger
"Bill Reid" <horme...@happyhealthy.net> wrote:
> > BTW, I saw AP2 last night, and it's nearly as good as the first. Best of
> > all, Alyson gets much more screen time than she did last time, and her
> > character has a very good resolution. No pies or flutes involved.
> >
> Interesting salary details revealed by Hannigan: she got scale
> for AP1, but got "over half a million" for AP2, with good
> backend rights that could boost that to $2million if the
> film does well. All this for about five days work.
Actually, I believe it was Natasha who only worked five days, which
makes sense considering how little she is used in the film and how much
Alyson is.
oceanyx
<snip pork face stern stuff>
Am I the only one who finds Howard Stern to be mind-numbingly juvenile and
dull and soooo beneath Alyson?? Am I the only one who can't for the life of
me imagine why she WANTED to be on the show?? The Willow mold can't be so
tough to break that she must stoop to this...<sigh>
Jeff Vavasour
"oceanyx" <oce...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Am I the only one who finds Howard Stern to be mind-numbingly juvenile and
> dull and soooo beneath Alyson??
I agree Stern is juvenile, but I don't know Alyson so I wouldn't really know
if this was beneath her. I'm guessing not, since American Pie wasn't.
- Jeff
H. McDaniel
Jeff Vavasour wrote:
Ha ha. Plus with actors like David Ducovony doing the Howard Stern show, her
publicist/agent would probably hire a hit man to kill her if she didn't do the
show.
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Elf Bard
>Plenty. I can email you her segment, or just Alyson's.
Could you post a transcript (of at least Alyson's bit) onto a website or
possibly this ng?
William George Ferguson
>
>>Just listened to this bit. Poor Ally got short-shrifted. Tara Reid
>>and another actress, Natasha L (?) were with her and of course
>>Howard spent most of the time asking Tara Reid about her relationship
>>with Carson Daley. He spent about 5 minutes with Ally and the moved on.
>
>Who was the Natasha chick? First, she sounded like she tokes four
>packs a day, and second she claimed that she was originally asked to
>be buffy?
>
>I liked the way they called her a liar...
Natasha Lyonne, the fifth of the four American Pie girls. She had a
bigger part than AH in the first movie, but it looks like AH's part
grew at her expense in the second movie.
She's also the youngest of the girls. She's even a couple of months
younger than Mena Suvari, and she's a Lot younger than Hannigan or
Elizabeth.
Every actress who was between about 15 and 25 back in 1996 says they
were asked to read for Buffy. Some of them actually were.
--
Ben: I wish it didn't have to be this way.
Dawn: And I wish you'd fall on your head and drown in your own barf.
I guess we're both going to be disappointed.
Forge
>Am I the only one who finds Howard Stern to be mind-numbingly juvenile and
>dull and soooo beneath Alyson?? Am I the only one who can't for the life of
>me imagine why she WANTED to be on the show??
Howard has tens of millions of listeners. Do I need to say any more?
Beren
oceanyx wrote:
> <snip pork face stern stuff>
>
> Am I the only one who finds Howard Stern to be mind-numbingly juvenile
Not in the least.
> and
> dull and soooo beneath Alyson?? Am I the only one who can't for the life of
> me imagine why she WANTED to be on the show??
Probably had no choice. When your agent schedules a publicity junket, you go
where you're told to go. Besides, Stern listeners (young men w/raging
hormones) are just the audience that AmPie is trolling for.
> The Willow mold can't be so
> tough to break that she must stoop to this...<sigh>
What does willow have to do with a press junket?
Lisa
If you read her interview in Playboy, you'd know that Howard Stern,
adolescent public masturbater that he is, is just her speed.
Lisa
Forge
wrote:
>If you read her interview in Playboy, you'd know that Howard Stern,
>adolescent public masturbater that he is, is just her speed.
Oooooookay, now you're not only insulting Stern, who, well, doesn't
care what anybody thinks of him, just keep sending the six-figure
paychecks please, but Alyson, who does not deserve that kind of
comment. You need a reality adjustment Lisa.
EGK
I'm not trying to pick a fight, Forge but how do you know what Alyson is
like in real life? I see her in tv or movies and interviews but I have no
idea what she's like as a person from that.
You gotta admit, a lot of her Playboy interview was more like Stern
interviewing a porn actress so why are comments like Lisa's undeserved?
Alyson kinda brought comments like that on herself.
Personally, I *like* when Stern interviews porn actresses but don't think
things like that do much to further Alyson's career as a serious actress. I
suppose it's great if all she wants is roles like American Pie's Michelle.
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"Beren" <ber...@iname.nospam.com> wrote in message
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It just seems that Alyson is trying (perhaps too) hard to not be typecase as
her Willow character. The AP roles and her (publicists) media choices are
very definitely trying to be something other. That's all.
>
>
oceanyx
"EGK" <e...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:34:58 -0400, Forge
> <xfo...@spammersmustdie.bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:44:51 GMT, star...@earthlink.net (Lisa)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>If you read her interview in Playboy, you'd know that Howard Stern,
> >>adolescent public masturbater that he is, is just her speed.
> >
> >Oooooookay, now you're not only insulting Stern, who, well, doesn't
> >care what anybody thinks of him, just keep sending the six-figure
> >paychecks please, but Alyson, who does not deserve that kind of
> >comment. You need a reality adjustment Lisa.
>
> I'm not trying to pick a fight, Forge but how do you know what Alyson is
> like in real life? I see her in tv or movies and interviews but I have no
> idea what she's like as a person from that.
> You gotta admit, a lot of her Playboy interview was more like Stern
> interviewing a porn actress so why are comments like Lisa's undeserved?
> Alyson kinda brought comments like that on herself.
yes. the interview was very one-dimensional. And the sound clip...ugh. I
found myself thinking, Noooooo!! It can't beeeeee!! because I generally like
her so much.
> Personally, I *like* when Stern interviews porn actresses but don't think
> things like that do much to further Alyson's career as a serious actress.
I
> suppose it's great if all she wants is roles like American Pie's Michelle.
Agreed. If she's trying to not be typecast in Willow-esque roles, than she
ought to be careful about going to far in the other direction and ending up
typecast for only dumbed-down sex comedy type roles. It seems like she's got
a whole lot more depth and talent than that. Be borderline and sex-crazed,
fine, woo-hoo even. But just not in a wholly unoriginal and one-dimensional
way.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Hammond
EGK wrote in message <6m08nt4cvksc7lrqn...@4ax.com>...
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:34:58 -0400, Forge
><xfo...@spammersmustdie.bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:44:51 GMT, star...@earthlink.net (Lisa)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>If you read her interview in Playboy, you'd know that Howard Stern,
>>>adolescent public masturbater that he is, is just her speed.
>>
>>Oooooookay, now you're not only insulting Stern, who, well, doesn't
>>care what anybody thinks of him, just keep sending the six-figure
>>paychecks please, but Alyson, who does not deserve that kind of
>>comment. You need a reality adjustment Lisa.
>
>I'm not trying to pick a fight, Forge but how do you know what Alyson is
>like in real life? I see her in tv or movies and interviews but I have no
>idea what she's like as a person from that.
>You gotta admit, a lot of her Playboy interview was more like Stern
>interviewing a porn actress so why are comments like Lisa's undeserved?
>Alyson kinda brought comments like that on herself.
>Personally, I *like* when Stern interviews porn actresses but don't think
>things like that do much to further Alyson's career as a serious actress.
I
>suppose it's great if all she wants is roles like American Pie's Michelle.
>
Cos it sounds like Dr Laura saying "You talked to Playboy about sex?
You must be a whore!"
It is just as unlikely that you got a true picture of Alyson's character
from a Playboy interview which is best seen as part of the pre-publicity
for American Pie 2 as it is that you got a good idea of her from
watching her portrayal of Willow, and reading interviews that she's
given to Buffy fans.
And, since when did talking to Playboy get to be some kind of
crime which is deserving of Lisa's condescension?
Paul
Mrs. Poet
>From: "Bill Reid" horme...@happyhealthy.net
>Date: 8/9/2001 12:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <kFBc7.9732$1p1.7...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
>
>
>3finger <cubfan2...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:cubfan23NOSPAM-F5B...@news.mindspring.com...
>> Can't believe that Howard didn't even bring up Alyson's Playboy.com
>> interview. Maybe he didn't know about it, maybe he ran out of time
>> dealing with Tara maybe Alyson's publicists requested that it not be
>> referred to.
>
>Don't know anything about this Playboy interview, but she did
>reveal: she has had "sort of" lesbian experiences because
>she has kissed girls "but really just to tease boys"; the transportation
>crew on "Buffy" demanded to be on the set during
>the kissing scene in the dream episode "to protect the
>ice cream truck"; and that Alexis Denisof has the most
>beautiful genitalia "in the world".
>
TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!! Man, someone put a muzzle on this woman. Or sic Sarah
Michelle Gellar on her. Is she THAT desperate for attention?
What next, we're going to learn what shade of brown Alexis' shit is? Urg.
If she must reveal private details, why doesn't she just talk about her OWN
genitalia, butt crack and between-toe dirt and let Alexis discuss his own
private parts if he really wants to.
>> I agree, she didn't get a lot of time with him, which is
>> ironic considering at first she was the only cast member who would even
>> do the show.
>
>But Stern didn't want her at all, too boring >and quiet,
A woman who cheerfully discusses her boyfriend's family jewels is too boring
for Howard?
RosePoet
Keeper of the Codpiece of Mumble*&%^, the Key to Spike's Redemption!
"I made a promise to a lady." -- Spike in Knight mode
Mrs. Poet
>Date: 8/9/2001 9:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <aJJc7.5818$NW6.3...@news1.sttln1.wa.home.com>
>
>
><snip pork face stern stuff>
>
>Am I the only one who finds Howard >Stern to be mind-numbingly juvenile
No.
> and
>dull and soooo beneath Alyson??
>Am I the only one who can't for the life of
>me imagine why she WANTED to be on >the show??
I can't understand why anyone with an IQ over 90 would want to be on his show,
but that's just me.
Mrs. Poet
>Date: 8/10/2001 7:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <95s7ntgb3nh604ttv...@4ax.com>
So you're saying Howard Stern ISN'T an adolescent public masturbator? Would
Stern even CONSIDER that an insult? I'd think he'd say "Yes, I'm that and
more!"
And you're saying Alyson's PB interview isn't the kind of thing that would be
said on HS's show? Albeit, it would be mild compared to what goes on on HS'
show.
Lisa seemed to be colorfully stating facts. Just because people have a right to
talk the way Howard does, and the way Alyson does, in public doesn't mean we
all have to line up in lock step behind them and say "Aren't they wonderful!"
I'm sure Alyson is a fine person but I don't have to like and approve of
everything she does. And I don't.
Troll Princess
news:20010811120240...@mb-fg.aol.com:
> I can't understand why anyone with an IQ over 90 would want to be on
> his show, but that's just me.
Unfortunately, because a lot of the same people who are going to go see "American Pie 2" and think it a classic are going to
listen to Howard's show. Trust me, a smart person *would* want to go on there, if only because it'll get butts in the seats (even
if they are moronic butts), up the box office on your movies, and raise your salary. Hell, if it'd get me more money, *I'd* go on
there, too.
TP
Mrs. Poet
>Date: 8/11/2001 6:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9l3dkq$hs5$5...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>
Lisa has a right to think whatever she wants of people. She didn't say Alyson
has no right to talk to Playboy or discuss her boyfriend's genitalia, she said
Alyson is Howard's speed. Howard likes graphic sex talk. Apparently Alyson
does too. Apparently Lisa doesn't. Lisa didn't say anything untrue or wrong,
or even anything that would hurt either of their feelings if they read it for
themselves.
IMO there is nothing wrong with doing an interview with Playboy. There is
something wrong with being gross, because it grosses me out. How's that? :^
EGK
No, it doesn't sound anything like that at all. She went a lot farther then
just talking about sex in general as you well know. If anything, it showed
Alyson probably has some exhibitionist tendencies.
>And, since when did talking to Playboy get to be some kind of
>crime which is deserving of Lisa's condescension?
Hyperbole much? No one said it was a crime. I don't know Alyson but her
playboy interview sounded like Stern interviewing a porn actress to me. So
if you don't like what Stern makes his living off of, you probably wouldn't
like her interview either. That's the comparison. I'm just saying I can
see both viewpoints. If someone thinks Stern is a "public masturbator"
(and a lot of people do), I can understand how they'd take Alyson's
interview the same way. Stern has gotten rich off of basically doing and
saying all the things that go on in a high school locker room. People are
simply attracted to the shock value or titillation factor, the "public
masturbation".
Stoneco864
>>dull and soooo beneath Alyson??
So you want Alyson to say to Howard "your beneath me"
Wow, I finally made someones Sig!
Inmehd
you couldn't be any more chill than Stoneco864"
The Ma-jin
EGK
You expressed my opinon very well. Better then I have considering the
responses I get. :) I can never understand why people take such extreme
sides on issues. You have the moral majority on one side and those on the
other who think we should just line up in lock step, as you put it, to cheer
for any kind of behavior at all.
lab~rat
>
>Lisa has a right to think whatever she wants of people. She didn't say Alyson
>has no right to talk to Playboy or discuss her boyfriend's genitalia, she said
>Alyson is Howard's speed. Howard likes graphic sex talk. Apparently Alyson
>does too. Apparently Lisa doesn't. Lisa didn't say anything untrue or wrong,
>or even anything that would hurt either of their feelings if they read it for
>themselves.
I think one would be more offended by the 'Jew' references they made
toward SMG that the genitalia talk. That's just my opinion...
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Marysia
>>Don't know anything about this Playboy interview, but she did
>>reveal: she has had "sort of" lesbian experiences because
>>she has kissed girls "but really just to tease boys"; the transportation
>>crew on "Buffy" demanded to be on the set during
>>the kissing scene in the dream episode "to protect the
>>ice cream truck"; and that Alexis Denisof has the most
>>beautiful genitalia "in the world".
>
>TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!! Man, someone put a muzzle on this woman. Or sic Sarah
>Michelle Gellar on her. Is she THAT desperate for attention?
>
>What next, we're going to learn what shade of brown Alexis' shit is? Urg.
>
>If she must reveal private details, why doesn't she just talk about her OWN
>genitalia, butt crack and between-toe dirt and let Alexis discuss his own
>private parts if he really wants to.
Okay, I think you are out of line here.
First, why are you reading a thread about Alyson on Howard Stern,
knowing what Stern generally discusses on his show, if you are this
bothered about Alyson discussing sex?
Why should she be muzzled? She's not talking about it on the daily
news, she's not discussing it in inappropriate venues. She's
discussing it in adult sexually oriented forums like Playboy and the
Howard Stern show. And what does shit have to do with sex? And what
business is it of yours if she discusses her boyfriends genitals, I'm
sure if he has a problem with what she says he is capable of sorting
it out for himself.
A simple, "I think Alyson is wrong to discuss her personal/sexual
life" would more than suffice.
--
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music at www.mp3.com/marysia inc Spike inspired song 'Darker than This'
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johndiem
wrote:
>On 11 Aug 2001 16:01:01 GMT, fyl...@aol.comspam (Mrs. Poet) wrote:
>>>Don't know anything about this Playboy interview, but she did
>>>reveal: she has had "sort of" lesbian experiences because
>>>she has kissed girls "but really just to tease boys"; the transportation
>>>crew on "Buffy" demanded to be on the set during
>>>the kissing scene in the dream episode "to protect the
>>>ice cream truck"; and that Alexis Denisof has the most
>>>beautiful genitalia "in the world".
>>
>>TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!! Man, someone put a muzzle on this woman. Or sic Sarah
>>Michelle Gellar on her. Is she THAT desperate for attention?
>>
>>What next, we're going to learn what shade of brown Alexis' shit is? Urg.
>>
>>If she must reveal private details, why doesn't she just talk about her OWN
>>genitalia, butt crack and between-toe dirt and let Alexis discuss his own
>>private parts if he really wants to.
>
>Okay, I think you are out of line here.
>
>First, why are you reading a thread about Alyson on Howard Stern,
>knowing what Stern generally discusses on his show, if you are this
>bothered about Alyson discussing sex?
>
>Why should she be muzzled? She's not talking about it on the daily
>news, she's not discussing it in inappropriate venues. She's
>discussing it in adult sexually oriented forums like Playboy and the
>Howard Stern show.
Not that Alyson would have anything to apologize for anyway, but
here's the context: Stern basically went up and down the line of
actresses and asked who they were involved with. Then he asked about
their genitalia (size, of course). I would say Alyson's response was
the best and simplest way to brush that question aside. If she didn't
answer at all Stern would have disparaged her boyfriend and bullied
her. Her actual response was that Alexis has the "best penis in the
world" in sort of a pretend-serious voice. Which is a ridiculous
answer, and resulted in the Stern crew doing much giggling. Alyson
didn't elaborate and they moved on. Earlier, Alyson said she was in
love with Stern so he would stop asking about her pushup bras. And
asked him to be nice to her.
If one *must* be on the Stern show (and Alyson must if she wants
promote the biggest film of her career and not get a reputation as
someone who won't help a film succeed), I think what she said was the
easiest way to get through it in one piece. She was just surviving
the interview. I wouldn't judge her based on it.
-Diem
Troll Princess
news:3b75c8a6...@news.bellatlantic.net:
> If one *must* be on the Stern show (and Alyson must if she wants
> promote the biggest film of her career and not get a reputation as
> someone who won't help a film succeed), I think what she said was the
> easiest way to get through it in one piece. She was just surviving
> the interview. I wouldn't judge her based on it.
Too true.
And to be honest -- and please don't take this the wrong way, but hey, I just got up from a nap, so I can easily discount this
later -- can't remember where this comes from (probably from my cousin Laurie, who talks like Alyson talked, but in public
forums, mind you), unless you always have sex in the dark, in the missionary position, in a bed and have never *ever*
discussed or mentioned sex at inappropriate times, complaining about someone who obviously has a great sex life and speaks
of it only in grown-up magazines and on the Howard Stern show is kind of stupid. I mean, you know full well what's going to be
asked in a Playboy interview or what Howard Stern is going to throw at a guest. If you like Alyson, but don't want to hear or
read graphic sex talk, then don't go there. Just say to someone who can say "Oh, yeah, I've had my own share of silly sexual
hijinks," "Hey, Alyson spoil anything for the new season? No. Okay, then."
I think the main reason anyone has to complain about Alyson's sex talk is that now we have icky mental images of what Willow
and Wesley were *really* doing during those late night study sessions in the library. (Ruining perfectly good Watcher
chronicles, no doubt, the rascals.)
TP *good for 'em, I say ... of course, I'm single and celibate, but let's just forget I said that, shall we?*
Paulxfoley
>Am I the only one who finds Howard Stern to be mind-numbingly juvenile and
>dull ...
No, you're not. I'm disappointed AH would have anything to do with his vile
and profoundly stupid show. Let him interview none but porn actresses and
crazy street people.
--Paul
--------------------------------------------
On her white Breast a sparkling Cross she wore / Which Jews might kiss, and
Infidels Adore.
--Alexander Pope
Paulxfoley
>If she must reveal private details, why doesn't she just talk about her OWN
>genitalia, butt crack and between-toe dirt and let Alexis discuss his own
>private parts if he really wants to.
Right on!
--Paul
-------------------------------------------
On her white Breast a sparkling Cross she wore / Which Jews might kiss, and
Infidels adore.
--Alexander Pope
Paulxfoley
>First, why are you reading a thread about Alyson on Howard Stern,
>knowing what Stern generally discusses on his show, if you are this
>bothered about Alyson discussing sex?
>
>Why should she be muzzled? She's not talking about it on the daily
>news, she's not discussing it in inappropriate venues. She's
>discussing it in adult sexually oriented forums like Playboy and the
>Howard Stern show.
Because even in the sexual arena, there is such a thing as decorum.
By the way, isn't it interesting that stuff like Howard Stern's show and
Playboy are considered "adult"? Aren't they for wanking adolescents?
--Paul
---------------------------------------------
Paul Hammond
Paulxfoley wrote in message <20010811205212...@mb-mn.aol.com>...
>oceanyx wrote:
>
>>Am I the only one who finds Howard Stern to be mind-numbingly juvenile and
>>dull ...
>
>No, you're not. I'm disappointed AH would have anything to do with his
vile
>and profoundly stupid show. Let him interview none but porn actresses and
>crazy street people.
>
And people with movies to promote whose USP is a "locker-room
jokes" attitude to sex. I'm pretty sure this kind of publicity deal
is part of what you get paid for when you do a movie.
Paul
Paulxfoley
>And people with movies to promote whose USP is a "locker-room
>jokes" attitude to sex. I'm pretty sure this kind of publicity deal
>is part of what you get paid for when you do a movie.
And money still doesn't justify everything.
--Paul
Mrs. Poet
>Date: 8/11/2001 1:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <ag5bnts55vmr3srrf...@4ax.com>
>
>On 11 Aug 2001 16:01:01 GMT, fyl...@aol.comspam (Mrs. Poet) wrote:
>
>>>Don't know anything about this Playboy interview, but she did
>>>reveal: she has had "sort of" lesbian experiences because
>>>she has kissed girls "but really just to tease boys"; the transportation
>>>crew on "Buffy" demanded to be on the set during
>>>the kissing scene in the dream episode "to protect the
>>>ice cream truck"; and that Alexis Denisof has the most
>>>beautiful genitalia "in the world".
>>
>>TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!! Man, someone put a muzzle on this woman. Or sic
>Sarah
>>Michelle Gellar on her. Is she THAT desperate for attention?
>>
>>What next, we're going to learn what shade of brown Alexis' shit is? Urg.
>>
>>If she must reveal private details, why doesn't she just talk about her OWN
>>genitalia, butt crack and between-toe dirt and let Alexis discuss his own
>>private parts if he really wants to.
>
>Okay, I think you are out of line here.
>
lol Okay. I knew I was going to catch heat for this post, but I did it
anyway. ;p
>First, why are you reading a thread about >Alyson on Howard Stern,
>knowing what Stern generally discusses >on his show, if you are this
>bothered about Alyson discussing sex?
>
"Because it was there." I was curious. For some reason, I wasn't expecting
more Playboy antics from her. I don't know why.
>Why should she be muzzled?
Because she's annoying. Really, Marysia, I didn't intend for that to be taken
literally. I don't think SMG should be sicced on her either, although it would
be interesting if someone tried.
>She's not talking about it on the daily
>news, she's not discussing it in inappropriate venues. She's
>discussing it in adult sexually oriented forums like Playboy and the
>Howard Stern show. And what does shit >have to do with sex?
Well, some would say...never mind.
I was taking to extreme, the "let it all hang out" approach to interviews some
people take. To tell the truth, I feel she is violating Alexis' privacy, and
that bothers me above all. If he wants to talk about his own genitalia, let
him do it. Let Alyson talk about how exciting her own vagina is and what a
magnificent vulva she has if she chooses to. Now I could be wrong, and Alexis
could be on his knees begging Alyson to please, please, talk about his penis on
Howard Stern, but from what I have read and heard I get the impression he is a
shy and private person. It's not like she's dating Mick Jagger. When I read
this stuff, I feel badly for him.
>And what
>business is it of yours if she discusses >her boyfriends genitals,
She has made it my business by discussing it. She has a right to talk about
his genitals (as long as he approves it) and I have a right to say I find it
gross and beneath both her and Alexis. The Fifth Amendment cuts both ways, I
am afraid.
>I'm
>sure if he has a problem with what she says he is capable of sorting
>it out for himself.
>A simple, "I think Alyson is wrong to discuss her personal/sexual
>life" would more than suffice.
>
I find this interesting Marysia.
It's okay for you to tell ME how I should phrase things but it's not okay for
me to object to how Alyson talks about her sex life. Thanks for making that
clear.
Mrs. Poet
>Date: 8/11/2001 5:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <tnbka0e...@corp.supernews.com>
>
>john...@hotmail.com (johndiem) wrote in
>news:3b75c8a6...@news.bellatlantic.net:
>
>> If one *must* be on the Stern show (and Alyson must if she wants
>> promote the biggest film of her career and not get a reputation as
>> someone who won't help a film succeed), I think what she said was the
>> easiest way to get through it in one piece. She was just surviving
>> the interview. I wouldn't judge her based on it.
>
>Too true.
>
>And to be honest -- and please don't take this the wrong way, but hey, I just
>got up from a nap, so I can easily discount this
>later -- can't remember where this comes from (probably from my cousin
>Laurie, who talks like Alyson talked, but in public
>forums, mind you), unless you always have sex in the dark, in the missionary
>position, in a bed and have never *ever*
>discussed or mentioned sex at inappropriate times, complaining about someone
>who obviously has a great sex life and speaks
>of it only in grown-up magazines and on the Howard Stern show is kind of
>stupid.
So Alyson is kind of stupid for saying it, I am kind of stupid for reading it,
and are all the people who listen to Howard Stern are kind of stupid for
listening to his show and making him a star. We're all kind of stupid
together. ;p
Troll Princess
>>And to be honest -- and please don't take this the wrong way, but hey,
>>I just got up from a nap, so I can easily discount this
>>later -- can't remember where this comes from (probably from my cousin
>>Laurie, who talks like Alyson talked, but in public
>>forums, mind you), unless you always have sex in the dark, in the
>>missionary position, in a bed and have never *ever*
>>discussed or mentioned sex at inappropriate times, complaining about
>>someone who obviously has a great sex life and speaks
>>of it only in grown-up magazines and on the Howard Stern show is kind
>>of stupid.
>
> So Alyson is kind of stupid for saying it, I am kind of stupid for
> reading it, and are all the people who listen to Howard Stern are kind
> of stupid for listening to his show and making him a star. We're all
> kind of stupid together. ;p
Yup. ;P
Honestly, though ... I don't see anything she said as wrong, maybe because I was raised with a much freer attitude towards sex -
- that it's not gross, that everybody does it, and not to be too judgmental. I'd be more worried about what she said about Alexis
if it weren't for that if I were Alexis, and my girlfriend were about to be interview by Playboy, I think I'd spend the morning
beforehand setting up the do's and don'ts of what you can and cannot reveal to the nice reporter.
And just out of curiosity, did she actually ever say his name? I mean, I know, that sounds stupid, but I don't think that I've
seen the two of them mentioned as an item outside of Buffy fandom. In articles and interviews, she just calls him my boyfriend,
and I know for a fact they didn't say they were dating when Alexis was in that one issue of People magazine, because I
specifically remember thinking, "Are they still dating?" It just seems to me that outside of us, who really knows (or cares) that
the'yre dating? Their family and friends, maybe, but I don't think if my friends or, God forbid, female relatives were going to get
interviewed by Playboy, that I'd read it.
Or maybe I'm still all napped up and my brain's all fuzzy.
TP
chev
Marysia wrote in message ...
My irony meter is red-lining.
chev, who didn't even know that AH and AD are an item (oh, the shame,
the shame)
H. McDaniel
Paulxfoley wrote:
> Marysia wrote:
>
> >First, why are you reading a thread about Alyson on Howard Stern,
> >knowing what Stern generally discusses on his show, if you are this
> >bothered about Alyson discussing sex?
> >
> >Why should she be muzzled? She's not talking about it on the daily
> >news, she's not discussing it in inappropriate venues. She's
> >discussing it in adult sexually oriented forums like Playboy and the
> >Howard Stern show.
>
> Because even in the sexual arena, there is such a thing as decorum.
>
> By the way, isn't it interesting that stuff like Howard Stern's show and
> Playboy are considered "adult"? Aren't they for wanking adolescents?
Not many adolescents can afford Playboy, so my gut feeling is "no" on that
account.
---
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BTR1701
fyl...@aol.comspam (Mrs. Poet) wrote:
> She has made it my business by discussing it. She has a right to talk
> about his genitals (as long as he approves it) and I have a right to say I find
> it gross and beneath both her and Alexis. The Fifth Amendment cuts both
> ways, I am afraid.
Um... that would be the 1st Amendment. The 5th Amendment is the one that
gives you the right to remain *silent*.
Which, given the topic of this discussion, it might not be a bad idea
for all the parties involved to invoke their 5th Amendment rights.
BTR1701
paulx...@aol.com (Paulxfoley) wrote:
> Paul Hammond wrote:
>
> >And people with movies to promote whose USP is a "locker-room
> >jokes" attitude to sex. I'm pretty sure this kind of publicity deal
> >is part of what you get paid for when you do a movie.
>
> And money still doesn't justify everything.
Oh, please. It's not like she's participating in war crimes or genocide.
She's promoting a movie on a radio show. I can't believe you all take
such trivialities so seriously.
Troll Princess
news:3B75E925...@hotmail.com:
> Paulxfoley wrote:
>> By the way, isn't it interesting that stuff like Howard Stern's show
>> and Playboy are considered "adult"? Aren't they for wanking
>> adolescents?
>
> Not many adolescents can afford Playboy, so my gut feeling is "no" on
> that account.
And it's not like they'd be buying it for the articles anyway.
TP
EGK
wrote:
>On 11 Aug 2001 16:01:01 GMT, fyl...@aol.comspam (Mrs. Poet) wrote:
>
>>>Don't know anything about this Playboy interview, but she did
>>>reveal: she has had "sort of" lesbian experiences because
>>>she has kissed girls "but really just to tease boys"; the transportation
>>>crew on "Buffy" demanded to be on the set during
>>>the kissing scene in the dream episode "to protect the
>>>ice cream truck"; and that Alexis Denisof has the most
>>>beautiful genitalia "in the world".
>>
>>TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!! Man, someone put a muzzle on this woman. Or sic Sarah
>>Michelle Gellar on her. Is she THAT desperate for attention?
>>
>>What next, we're going to learn what shade of brown Alexis' shit is? Urg.
>>
>>If she must reveal private details, why doesn't she just talk about her OWN
>>genitalia, butt crack and between-toe dirt and let Alexis discuss his own
>>private parts if he really wants to.
>
>Okay, I think you are out of line here.
>
>First, why are you reading a thread about Alyson on Howard Stern,
>knowing what Stern generally discusses on his show, if you are this
>bothered about Alyson discussing sex?
Let's see, Alyson has the right to discuss and talk about anything she
pleases yet you say Rose is out of line for discussing her own opinions in a
public forum? Talk about irony.
>Why should she be muzzled? She's not talking about it on the daily
>news, she's not discussing it in inappropriate venues. She's
>discussing it in adult sexually oriented forums like Playboy and the
>Howard Stern show. And what does shit have to do with sex? And what
>business is it of yours if she discusses her boyfriends genitals, I'm
>sure if he has a problem with what she says he is capable of sorting
>it out for himself.
>
>A simple, "I think Alyson is wrong to discuss her personal/sexual
>life" would more than suffice.
Surrrrree. Alyson can discuss anything but let's put a muzzle on Rose or me
or anyone else who has a different opinion from your own.
Whether you like it or not, The Stern show and Playboy are public forums
just as this is. Stern especially is available to anyone able to turn on a
radio and the Playboy interview is available to anyone who can click on a
web link. You want someone here to keep their opinion to themselves but
heaven forbid anyone think someone's personal sexual habits are best kept
private.
EGK
wrote:
>
>
>Paulxfoley wrote:
>
>> Marysia wrote:
>>
>> >First, why are you reading a thread about Alyson on Howard Stern,
>> >knowing what Stern generally discusses on his show, if you are this
>> >bothered about Alyson discussing sex?
>> >
>> >Why should she be muzzled? She's not talking about it on the daily
>> >news, she's not discussing it in inappropriate venues. She's
>> >discussing it in adult sexually oriented forums like Playboy and the
>> >Howard Stern show.
>>
>> Because even in the sexual arena, there is such a thing as decorum.
>>
>> By the way, isn't it interesting that stuff like Howard Stern's show and
>> Playboy are considered "adult"? Aren't they for wanking adolescents?
>
>Not many adolescents can afford Playboy, so my gut feeling is "no" on that
>account.
Oh, come on. I'd wager a good portion of Playboy's web traffic are
adolescents. Not that many adolescents can afford $100-200 athletic shoes
either but somehow they seem to manage. :)
Beren
Paulxfoley wrote:
> oceanyx wrote:
>
> >Am I the only one who finds Howard Stern to be mind-numbingly juvenile and
> >dull ...
>
> No, you're not. I'm disappointed AH would have anything to do with his vile
> and profoundly stupid show. Let him interview none but porn actresses and
> crazy street people.
>
> --Paul
Again, AH probably had no choice but to do Stern's show. AmPie2 is aimed at
Stern's audience, and her success as a commercial actress (which is important if
you want to be able to afford to do your own projects down the line) depends on
the success of her movies, hence the extensive press junket.
Beren
Paulxfoley wrote:
> Paul Hammond wrote:
>
> >And people with movies to promote whose USP is a "locker-room
> >jokes" attitude to sex. I'm pretty sure this kind of publicity deal
> >is part of what you get paid for when you do a movie.
>
> And money still doesn't justify everything.
>
> --Paul
No, but a contract helps a lot. . .
EGK
No one is claiming Aly committed any crimes or did anything wrong at all.
It's simply a matter of what some regard as showing a little class or good
taste in public forums. I can't get over people who keep on saying, "but
it's Playboy, what do you expect?" as if that's some sort of private,
members only forum. It's public record.
I don't think there's anyone, fan or not, who'd say Howard Stern is a classy
individual. And why is that? It's for consistently engaging in the same
type of adolescent "public masturbation" (for lack of a better term) that
Aly decided to engage in.
The bottom line is, no one is trying to force Aly, you or anyone else to
adhere to any kind of moral agenda. But it works both ways, you know? If
she has a right to say and do whatever she pleases in public forums, others
have a right to disagree and find the behavior tacky and undignified.
That's basically what the debate in this thread has come around to. People
defend Aly's right to do and say what she pleases then turn around and say
others don't have any right to express an opinion about it.
Beren
> and are all the people who listen to Howard Stern are kind of stupid for
> listening to his show and making him a star. We're all kind of stupid
> together. ;p
>
> RosePoet
> Keeper of the Codpiece of Mumble*&%^, the Key to Spike's Redemption!
> "I made a promise to a lady." -- Spike in Knight mode
It's a great big stupid party! Bring stupid drinks, stupid snacks, and we'll dance
stupid dances!!! let's get stupid!! = )
Beren
> >Not many adolescents can afford Playboy, so my gut feeling is "no" on that
> >account.
>
> Oh, come on. I'd wager a good portion of Playboy's web traffic are
> adolescents. Not that many adolescents can afford $100-200 athletic shoes
> either but somehow they seem to manage. :)
Yes, but it's legal for adolescents under 18 to own sneakers. Not so with porn.
EGK
LOL yeah, that stops them dead in their tracks. :)
H. McDaniel
EGK wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:07:17 GMT, Beren <ber...@iname.nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> >Not many adolescents can afford Playboy, so my gut feeling is "no" on that
> >> >account.
> >>
> >> Oh, come on. I'd wager a good portion of Playboy's web traffic are
> >> adolescents. Not that many adolescents can afford $100-200 athletic shoes
> >> either but somehow they seem to manage. :)
> >
> >Yes, but it's legal for adolescents under 18 to own sneakers. Not so with porn.
>
> LOL yeah, that stops them dead in their tracks. :)
Well what are you arguing? That Playboy markets to, or otherwise targets youngins?
The price tag *and* the material itself suggest otherwise. Not that I'm an expert on
Playboy prices mind you, so I could be wrong.
EGK
wrote:
>
>
>EGK wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:07:17 GMT, Beren <ber...@iname.nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> >Not many adolescents can afford Playboy, so my gut feeling is "no" on that
>> >> >account.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, come on. I'd wager a good portion of Playboy's web traffic are
>> >> adolescents. Not that many adolescents can afford $100-200 athletic shoes
>> >> either but somehow they seem to manage. :)
>> >
>> >Yes, but it's legal for adolescents under 18 to own sneakers. Not so with porn.
>>
>> LOL yeah, that stops them dead in their tracks. :)
>
>Well what are you arguing? That Playboy markets to, or otherwise targets youngins?
>The price tag *and* the material itself suggest otherwise. Not that I'm an expert on
>Playboy prices mind you, so I could be wrong.
I'm just saying you're naive if you think the price keeps kids from getting
and viewing the magazine. Either the print version or the web version.
Let's see though. Adolescent boys, hormones raging, probably think about
sex and naked women more then any other segment of the population in
general. Playboy's whole success is centered around pictures of naked
women. Oh, hell, no. They don't market to kids any more then Joe Camel's
cartoon billboards did. :)
Mrs. Poet
>Date: 8/11/2001 9:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <btr1702-3772E6...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
>
>In article <20010811220602...@ng-bh1.aol.com>,
>fyl...@aol.comspam (Mrs. Poet) wrote:
>
>> She has made it my business by discussing it. She has a right to talk
>> about his genitals (as long as he approves it) and I have a right to say I
>find
>> it gross and beneath both her and Alexis. The Fifth Amendment cuts both
>> ways, I am afraid.
>
>Um... that would be the 1st Amendment. The 5th Amendment is the one that
>gives you the right to remain *silent*.
>
Man! I KNEW there was something wrong with that sentence when I typed it!
::smack!::
EGK
>>Subject: Re: Alyson H on Stern Show
>>From: BTR1701 btr...@ix.netcom.com
>>Date: 8/11/2001 9:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>>Message-id: <btr1702-3772E6...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
>>
>>In article <20010811220602...@ng-bh1.aol.com>,
>>fyl...@aol.comspam (Mrs. Poet) wrote:
>>
>>> She has made it my business by discussing it. She has a right to talk
>>> about his genitals (as long as he approves it) and I have a right to say I
>>find
>>> it gross and beneath both her and Alexis. The Fifth Amendment cuts both
>>> ways, I am afraid.
>>
>>Um... that would be the 1st Amendment. The 5th Amendment is the one that
>>gives you the right to remain *silent*.
>>
>
>Man! I KNEW there was something wrong with that sentence when I typed it!
>::smack!::
>
heh heh. That's probably why people keep trying to take some of them away.
It's just out of the goodness of their hearts. They figure the less we
have, the easier to keep track. <G>
William George Ferguson
>> So Alyson is kind of stupid for saying it, I am kind of stupid for
>> reading it, and are all the people who listen to Howard Stern are kind
>> of stupid for listening to his show and making him a star. We're all
>> kind of stupid together. ;p
Troll Princess <trol...@nep.net> wrote:
>Yup. ;P
>
>Honestly, though ... I don't see anything she said as wrong, maybe
>because I was raised with a much freer attitude towards sex -- that
>it's not gross, that everybody does it, and not to be too judgmental.
>I'd be more worried about what she said about Alexis if it weren't
>for that if I were Alexis, and my girlfriend were about to be
>interview by Playboy, I think I'd spend the morning beforehand
>setting up the do's and don'ts of what you can and cannot reveal
>to the nice reporter.
>And just out of curiosity, did she actually ever say his name? I mean,
>I know, that sounds stupid, but I don't think that I've seen the two
>of them mentioned as an item outside of Buffy fandom. In articles and
>interviews, she just calls him my boyfriend, and I know for a fact they
>didn't say they were dating when Alexis was in that one issue of People
>magazine, because I specifically remember thinking, "Are they still
>dating?" It just seems to me that outside of us, who really knows (or
>cares) that the'yre dating? Their family and friends, maybe, but I
>don't think if my friends or, God forbid, female relatives were going to
>get interviewed by Playboy, that I'd read it.
Yes she did say his name (I feel an almost uncontrollable urge to type
'bitch' especially considering what she was promoting).
I don't watch or listen to Stern, but I did download the Aly part of
the interview. The context was that Stern was going down the line
asking the girls if they were involved, and who with (and taking some
Gellar/Prinze shots when he reached AH). I think that actually grew
out of him needling Tara Reid about Carson Daly.
Anyway, he asked her who she was involved with, and she said 'an actor
named Alex Denisof'. Stern started to rag on him as unknown, when his
female sidekick (who is a big Buffy fan, and knows the shows better
than Stern) said 'He's the actor on Angel, you know, the ex-Watcher.'
and Stern said 'Oh yeah, he's okay.' He then asked what size and AH
responded with 'he's got the prettiest in the world' (as someone else
suggested, a 'kill the line of questioning without getting into a
discussion' response).
--
Ben: I wish it didn't have to be this way.
Dawn: And I wish you'd fall on your head and drown in your own barf.
I guess we're both going to be disappointed.
johndiem
>RosePoet wrote:
>
>>If she must reveal private details, why doesn't she just talk about her OWN
>>genitalia, butt crack and between-toe dirt and let Alexis discuss his own
>>private parts if he really wants to.
>
>Right on!
She did make a self-deprecating remark about her chest size in
response to a question about why she sometimes wore pushup bras.
Seriously, the Stern interview wasn't in the same league as the
playboy article. What she actually said, in response to a direct
question about it, was that her boyfriend had "the best penis in the
world." Which if you think about it, is a completely meaningless
comment. That's like saying someone has the best big toe in the
world. It's completely non-informative, unless you had some doubt as
to whether Alexis Denisof actually has male genitalia. In which
case, I share your shock and dismay.
But there was no further elaboration on the subject. Alyson gave a
dumb question a dumb answer. She has not gone berzerk and begun
testifying to anyone who'll listen about her boyfriend's primary
sexual characteristics. That remains isolated to the playboy article,
which I'll admit was a moment of debateable judgment.
-Diem
(and you won't see me crying for Alexis)
Mrs. Poet
>Date: 8/11/2001 10:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <082cntsd43qvarjf8...@4ax.com>
Well, that does put it in a different light.
Still, I got to get my feelings about the Playboy article out of my system. I
was trying SO hard to be tactful when that came up and this morning I just
popped. :)
oceanyx
"H. McDaniel" <henry_m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3B75E925...@hotmail.com...
>
>
> Paulxfoley wrote:
>
> > Marysia wrote:
> >
> > >First, why are you reading a thread about Alyson on Howard Stern,
> > >knowing what Stern generally discusses on his show, if you are this
> > >bothered about Alyson discussing sex?
> > >
> > >Why should she be muzzled? She's not talking about it on the daily
> > >news, she's not discussing it in inappropriate venues. She's
> > >discussing it in adult sexually oriented forums like Playboy and the
> > >Howard Stern show.
> >
> > Because even in the sexual arena, there is such a thing as decorum.
> >
> > By the way, isn't it interesting that stuff like Howard Stern's show and
> > Playboy are considered "adult"? Aren't they for wanking adolescents?
>
> Not many adolescents can afford Playboy, so my gut feeling is "no" on that
> account.
>
No, they borrow dad's or steal it from their local bookstore. Having run the
mag department at a bookstore for some years, I know of what I speak. It's
that at "High Times" that go walking out the door. That is until we had the
good sense to put it al behind the counter where you had to ask for it. And
suddely we stopped "selling out"
KGM
I will agree with this single clause, and no other! :)
By the way, my objections to Stern are NOT from his sex stuff (which is
incredibly boring after a VERY short time), but from the fact that he is an
@$$hole to everyone around him - including some of his staff - and is
abusive to them: NO-ONE deserves that kind of treatment, and people should
definitely not be *rewarded* for being an abusive @$$hole.
> We're all
>kind of stupid together. ;p
>
>RosePoet
-KG
--
Giles: We listened to aggressively cheerful music sung by people chosen
for their ability to dance....
Dan Damouth
news:3B761D6A...@iname.nospam.com:
It's not illegal for a minor to own porn in the US.
Dan Damouth
Tim McGaughy
paulx...@aol.com wrote on 8/12/01 9:14 AM:
> Because even in the sexual arena, there is such a thing as decorum.
Not if you're doing it right.....
Tim McGaughy
fyl...@aol.comspam wrote on 8/12/01 10:06 AM:
>> Subject: Re: Alyson H on Stern Show
>> From: Marysia mar...@marysia.spannercom
>> Date: 8/11/2001 1:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>> Message-id: <ag5bnts55vmr3srrf...@4ax.com>
>> I'm
>> sure if he has a problem with what she says he is capable of sorting
>> it out for himself.
>> A simple, "I think Alyson is wrong to discuss her personal/sexual
>> life" would more than suffice.
>>
>
> I find this interesting Marysia.
>
> It's okay for you to tell ME how I should phrase things but it's not okay for
> me to object to how Alyson talks about her sex life. Thanks for making that
> clear.
Ooooh. Cat fight.
<grabs popcorn and finds a seat>
lab~rat
>oceanyx wrote:
>
>>Am I the only one who finds Howard Stern to be mind-numbingly juvenile and
>>dull ...
>
>No, you're not. I'm disappointed AH would have anything to do with his vile
>and profoundly stupid show. Let him interview none but porn actresses and
>crazy street people.
>
Shows how low actors stoop to plug their projects.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Lisa
<xfo...@spammersmustdie.bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:44:51 GMT, star...@earthlink.net (Lisa)
>wrote:
>
>>If you read her interview in Playboy, you'd know that Howard Stern,
>>adolescent public masturbater that he is, is just her speed.
>
>Oooooookay, now you're not only insulting Stern, who, well, doesn't
>care what anybody thinks of him, just keep sending the six-figure
>paychecks please, but Alyson, who does not deserve that kind of
>comment. You need a reality adjustment Lisa.
I assume from that that you haven't read her Playboy interview.
Lisa
Lisa
<pa...@hammond3671.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>EGK wrote in message <6m08nt4cvksc7lrqn...@4ax.com>...
>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:34:58 -0400, Forge
>><xfo...@spammersmustdie.bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:44:51 GMT, star...@earthlink.net (Lisa)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you read her interview in Playboy, you'd know that Howard Stern,
>>>>adolescent public masturbater that he is, is just her speed.
>>>
>>>Oooooookay, now you're not only insulting Stern, who, well, doesn't
>>>care what anybody thinks of him, just keep sending the six-figure
>>>paychecks please, but Alyson, who does not deserve that kind of
>>>comment. You need a reality adjustment Lisa.
>>
>>I'm not trying to pick a fight, Forge but how do you know what Alyson is
>>like in real life? I see her in tv or movies and interviews but I have no
>>idea what she's like as a person from that.
>>You gotta admit, a lot of her Playboy interview was more like Stern
>>interviewing a porn actress so why are comments like Lisa's undeserved?
>>Alyson kinda brought comments like that on herself.
>>Personally, I *like* when Stern interviews porn actresses but don't think
>>things like that do much to further Alyson's career as a serious actress.
>I
>>suppose it's great if all she wants is roles like American Pie's Michelle.
>>
>
>Cos it sounds like Dr Laura saying "You talked to Playboy about sex?
>You must be a whore!"
>
>It is just as unlikely that you got a true picture of Alyson's character
>from a Playboy interview which is best seen as part of the pre-publicity
>for American Pie 2 as it is that you got a good idea of her from
>watching her portrayal of Willow, and reading interviews that she's
>given to Buffy fans.
>
>And, since when did talking to Playboy get to be some kind of
>crime which is deserving of Lisa's condescension?
It was the tone. And it's not condescension; just the fact that the
AH who was interviewed in Playboy fits well with Howard Stern.
Lisa
Lisa
>On 11 Aug 2001 16:09:50 GMT, fyl...@aol.comspam (Mrs. Poet) wrote:
>
>>
>>Lisa has a right to think whatever she wants of people. She didn't say Alyson
>>has no right to talk to Playboy or discuss her boyfriend's genitalia, she said
>>Alyson is Howard's speed. Howard likes graphic sex talk. Apparently Alyson
>>does too. Apparently Lisa doesn't. Lisa didn't say anything untrue or wrong,
>>or even anything that would hurt either of their feelings if they read it for
>>themselves.
>
>I think one would be more offended by the 'Jew' references they made
>toward SMG that the genitalia talk. That's just my opinion...
'Cept that Stern is Jewish and SMG isn't.
Lisa
BTR1701
wrote:
Sarah Gellar is technically Jewish in that her heritage is Jewish.
However, she has repeatedly stated that she doesn't believe in organized
religion.
Beren
Dan Damouth wrote:
It's illegal for them to buy it. It's illegal to sell it to a minor.
David Cheatham
David Cheatham
Dan Damouth
news:MPG.15e09ee64...@130.133.1.4:
> Beren <ber...@iname.nospam.com> says...
>>
>>
>> Dan Damouth wrote:
>>
>> > Beren <ber...@iname.nospam.com> wrote in
>> > > Yes, but it's legal for adolescents under 18 to own sneakers.
>> > > Not so with porn.
>> >
>> > It's not illegal for a minor to own porn in the US.
>> It's illegal for them to buy it. It's illegal to sell it to a
>> minor.
>
> Really? How is it illegal to buy it?
It's not, federally. I haven't checked every state's laws, but it's not
illegal under California law either, AFAICT. My resource is the National
Obscenity Law Center (http://www.moralityinmedia.org/nolc/), which has
listings for federal and state laws.
In fact, in California, it's explicitly legal for a minor to own porn if
his/her adult guardian gives it to her/him (CA Penal code statute 313.2).
As far as I can tell, if a minor is caught with porn, there is not a
single law that he or she has broken.
Note that this is based on a general knowledge of the law and some poking
around on the net. IANAL.
Dan Damouth
Lisa
wrote:
She's technically *not* Jewish, because her mother isn't Jewish. Even
according to the Jewish sects which recognize someone as Jewish if
they have a Jewish father (which is nonsensical, of course), they have
to identify as Jewish, which Gellar doesn't.
She'd only be Jewish according to the Nazis, and we don't define
ourselves on the basis of what madmen and murderers say.
Lisa
Lisa
wrote:
>Excuse me? SMG born Jewish, like Stern. Neither appears to practice.
SMG has a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother. She never converted
and doesn't identify as Jewish, and therefore is not only a non-Jew
according to Jewish law, but even according to the sects that accept a
Jewish father as relevant.
>I'm guessing MT also Jewish by birth. Oddly, our Willow Rosenberg
>appears to be played by a non-Jewish actress (I'm guessing again)
Good guess.
Lisa
Forge
>I'm not trying to pick a fight, Forge but how do you know what Alyson is
>like in real life? I see her in tv or movies and interviews but I have no
>idea what she's like as a person from that.
>You gotta admit, a lot of her Playboy interview was more like Stern
>interviewing a porn actress so why are comments like Lisa's undeserved?
>Alyson kinda brought comments like that on herself.
>Personally, I *like* when Stern interviews porn actresses but don't think
>things like that do much to further Alyson's career as a serious actress. I
>suppose it's great if all she wants is roles like American Pie's Michelle.
Aly agreed to the Playboy interview and answered the questions
truthfully. Lisa essentially called her and Howard "adolescent public
masturbators." I care little what an actor is really like or what they
do in private, but I strongly feel nobody deserves to be insulted like
that. However as they are public figures it is your and Lisa's right
to do so.
Forge
<pa...@hammond3671.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>suppose it's great if all she wants is roles like American Pie's Michelle.
>>
>
>Cos it sounds like Dr Laura saying "You talked to Playboy about sex?
>You must be a whore!"
>
>It is just as unlikely that you got a true picture of Alyson's character
>from a Playboy interview which is best seen as part of the pre-publicity
>for American Pie 2 as it is that you got a good idea of her from
>watching her portrayal of Willow, and reading interviews that she's
>given to Buffy fans.
>
>And, since when did talking to Playboy get to be some kind of
>crime which is deserving of Lisa's condescension?
Hear hear Paul
Forge
wrote:
>Excuse me? SMG born Jewish, like Stern. Neither appears to practice.
If Sarah's mother isn't Jewish, Sarah isn't Jewish.
Forge
>TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!! Man, someone put a muzzle on this woman. Or sic Sarah
>Michelle Gellar on her. Is she THAT desperate for attention?
I'd really rather have someone somewhere between Aly and Sarah. Aly's
too "familiar" and Sarah's too aloof. Not that it makes a hell of a
lot of difference.
Forge
>By the way, my objections to Stern are NOT from his sex stuff (which is
>incredibly boring after a VERY short time), but from the fact that he is an
>@$$hole to everyone around him - including some of his staff - and is
>abusive to them: NO-ONE deserves that kind of treatment, and people should
>definitely not be *rewarded* for being an abusive @$$hole.
This is ever so true. I listen to Howard occasionally because he
really can be funny when he's not shrieking at his staff and calling
them all insulting names, or talking about the parts of some woman's
body... But I gave up for about a year after he spent three hours
berating John Melendez for some perceived slight. Howard, get off it
already.
EGK
Just curious but why do you consider that such an insult? What's a short,
descriptive term to describe what Howard does or how Aly talked in her
Playboy interview? Lisa engaged in hyperbole but it's not exactly
inaccurate.
This reminded me of the episode Earshot when the school newspaper editor
thinks Oz wants to beat him up for describing the way Dingoes ate my baby
sounded. "As if they had plump polish sausages taped to their fingers". He
says, "sorry , man". Oz's only remark is "nah, it's fair".
Marysia
wrote:
>> So Alyson is kind of stupid for saying it, I am kind of stupid for reading it,
>> and are all the people who listen to Howard Stern are kind of stupid for
>> listening to his show and making him a star. We're all kind of stupid
>> together. ;p
>>
>> RosePoet
>> Keeper of the Codpiece of Mumble*&%^, the Key to Spike's Redemption!
>> "I made a promise to a lady." -- Spike in Knight mode
>
>It's a great big stupid party! Bring stupid drinks, stupid snacks, and we'll dance
>stupid dances!!! let's get stupid!! = )
We are the stupid people
We are the stupid people
You're the stupid people too
Found a way to get to you
Do you think that I'm crazy
Stupid and wierd
Do you think that I creep in the night
And sleep in a phone booth?
--
Marysia in Seattle, www.marysia.com - remove the "spanner" to email
music at www.mp3.com/marysia inc Spike inspired song 'Darker than This'
"And you can use my skin, to bury secrets in" - Fiona Apple
Forge
wrote:
>Oh, please. It's not like she's participating in war crimes or genocide.
>She's promoting a movie on a radio show. I can't believe you all take
>such trivialities so seriously.
Wut B. sed goze fer me to.
Additionally people should give Howard a chance; he's actually one of
the more intelligent guys on the radio, he just has a crass adolescent
attitude about life in general. I've heard him interview some people
where he left off the sex and the insults (or was interviewing someone
who knew exactly how to deflect such commentary), and his interview
style is terrific. So, you got some gives and some takes there...
Marysia
>Because even in the sexual arena, there is such a thing as decorum.
Gee, you make sex sound so exciting.
BTR1701
<xfo...@spammersmustdie.bellsouth.net> wrote:
People convert to Judaism all the time without Jewish parents. Are they
not Jewish either?
Marysia
>>I'm
>>sure if he has a problem with what she says he is capable of sorting
>>it out for himself.
>>A simple, "I think Alyson is wrong to discuss her personal/sexual
>>life" would more than suffice.
>
>I find this interesting Marysia.
>It's okay for you to tell ME how I should phrase things but it's not okay for
>me to object to how Alyson talks about her sex life. Thanks for making that
>clear.
It's simple. You are here to defend yourself from whatever I have to
say. You are talking to everyone on the group in a forum where
response is expected. Alyson is not a part of this discussion and
neither her nor her boyfriend can say "hold on a minute there". This
makes attacking them easy and cheap (IMO). Maybe it's wierd of me but
as someone who had to put up with a lot of talking behind my back in
my life it really gets to me and as a result I don't like to see
people say things about people that they would never say to their
face.
BTR1701
wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:36:24 -0700, BTR1701 <btr...@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <3b769c57...@news.earthlink.net>, li...@starways.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 12:36:22 -0400, lab~rat <ch...@cheese.net> wrote:
> >> >I think one would be more offended by the 'Jew' references they made
> >> >toward SMG that the genitalia talk. That's just my opinion...
> >>
> >> 'Cept that Stern is Jewish and SMG isn't.
> >
> >Sarah Gellar is technically Jewish in that her heritage is Jewish.
> >However, she has repeatedly stated that she doesn't believe in organized
> >religion.
>
> She's technically *not* Jewish, because her mother isn't Jewish.
I'm not talking about Jewish as a religion. I'm talking about it as an
ethnicity. She has a Jewish heritage. It's a fact.
> Even according to the Jewish sects which recognize someone as Jewish if
> they have a Jewish father (which is nonsensical, of course),
Why is it nonsensical? It's no more nonsensical than any other religious
belief.
Talking snakes, seas parting, rivers turning to blood... It's all pretty
ludicrous.
KGM
<btr1702-58A9D1...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>:
<Spike as Homer Simpson> "Mmmmmm.... rivers turning to blood.... mmmmmm."
</spike as homer simpson>
-KG
--
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for their ability to dance....
BTR1701
wrote:
LOL! "Bloody rivers... aghhhhh... (droool)"
Darth Republican
> >From: "oceanyx" oce...@home.com
> >
> ><snip pork face stern stuff>
> >
> >Am I the only one who finds Howard >Stern to be mind-numbingly juvenile
>
> No.
That's the entire basis of his appeal to his fans.
>
> >Am I the only one who can't for the life of
> >me imagine why she WANTED to be on >the show??
>
> I can't understand why anyone with an IQ over 90 would want to be on his
show,
> but that's just me.
Probably because they realize that lots of people with IQs below 90 listen
to his show. This is especially true of actors which are in movies like
American Pie 2 which is aimed directly at the sub-90 IQ demographic.
Or maybe, just maybe Alyson actually likes Howard Stern and thinks that his
show is funny. Stern has his moments when he can be pretty funny -- which
is really all that a drive time DJ needs to do to be successful.
Think about it. You're driving, you're not paying much attention, when
suddenly Howard says something that's really funny or outrageous. Now that
may be the only funny thing he's said all day but you don't really notice
because you're to busy driving and yelling at that soccer mom who just cut
you off in her SUV.
--
Does this .sig make my butt look big?
Roberto Castillo
cast...@enteract.com
http://www.enteract.com/~castillo/
Elf Bard
>A woman who cheerfully discusses her boyfriend's family jewels is too
boring
>for Howard?
<sigh> Roazie, Roazie, Roazie... Isn't it obvious? Alyson dosn't hold
Stern's attention 'cause she's not packing a pair of DDs.
Elf Bard
>So Alyson is kind of stupid for saying it, I am kind of stupid for reading
it,
>and are all the people who listen to Howard Stern are kind of stupid for
>listening to his show and making him a star. We're all kind of stupid
>together. ;p
Planet Earth in a nutshell ladies & gentlemen...
Elf Bard
>Still, I got to get my feelings about the Playboy article out of my system.
I
>was trying SO hard to be tactful when that came up and this morning I just
>popped. :)
<giggles and clamps her mouth shut>