bloody hell she's hot. I'm.....
Sarah Michelle Gellar will disapprove of at least one of those I bet...
Rose
Member, Feral Cats Brigade
They're not all here. There are some more on the Maxim UK site but I
lost the link.
And I'm sure Ms. Carpenter is just dying for Gellar's approval... ;-)
It's doubtful we'll ever see the tat onher back, but has anyone
noticed the one on her left wrist?
"Dave Rodgers" <sheriff...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3c741...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
If you mean we won't see it on the show, that's not true. I've spotted
it several times over the years when she wears short blouses.
> Oh CC...you are so much more of a woman than all the little petite girls
> on Buffy...they can't hold a candle to you!
Too bad her lack of petiteness is mostly silicon.
Oh this is a new one. Tell me, where did you confirm that CC
has has silicon implants?
--
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He has perfectly good evidence...like most of the people who post
"facts" to newsgroups, he pulled an Assumption out of his Ass.
I'm sure glad the silicon made her taller, too.
OK, Roaz, 'splain. I saw the photos and none reminded me of SMG.
What's the connection? What did I miss?
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>> http://www.charisma-carpenter.com/pics/gallery17a.shtml
>
>It's doubtful we'll ever see the tat onher back, but has anyone
>noticed the one on her left wrist?
What in the name of hell are you talking about?
They don't look like it, from the little sleazy teasy glimpses of bits
of them we get..
I've just about given up on pictures of that woman. Certainly she's
tall, dark and handsome, but the eternal 1950s pin-up poses are boring. Is
she some sort of born-again religious person? I refuse to believe in a shy
TV starlet..
>
>Tammy Stephanie Davis wrote in message
><2U7d8.456$Cf5....@news.itd.umich.edu>...
>>In article <Xns91BC5F1D...@209.155.56.97>,
>>Brian Christopher Robinson <a@b.c> wrote:
>>:Sandoz <a@y.z> wrote in news:3C7416D7.A09DB49@y.z:
>>:
>>:> Oh CC...you are so much more of a woman than all the little petite girls
>>:> on Buffy...they can't hold a candle to you!
>>:
>>:Too bad her lack of petiteness is mostly silicon.
>>
>>Oh this is a new one. Tell me, where did you confirm that CC
>>has has silicon implants?
>
> They don't look like it, from the little sleazy teasy glimpses of bits
>of them we get..
From what I saw of the Maxim photos they look just a little More Human
Than Human.... a wee bit too perfect to be unaugmented IMO.
You never hear of photos getting "touched up?"
--
----->Hunter
It's a reference to one of Sarah's SNL appearances where she did the
Holding Your Own Boobs magazine advert.
--
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>> Oh CC...you are so much more of a woman than all the little petite girls
>> on Buffy...they can't hold a candle to you!
>
>Too bad her lack of petiteness is mostly silicon.
No silicon in those hips or backside, dude
You never hear of actors having "a little work done"?
I'm just saying. Believe what you like; I do :)
Correction. The above should read "and I doubt that they are *not*
exactly experts about such things anyway"
--
Considering that CC has said no, that no one else has even produced
i've seem the tattoo on her back during an angel ep. since i've only
been watching this year's eps, i couldn't have been that long ago.
parismom
Tammy,
I can't confirm, but it seems like it to me, too. I base this on two things.
First, what seems to me to be quite a difference in bust line from the
beginning of _Buffy_ season 2 compared to the end.
Second,
http://www.andesdesigns.com/celebs/images/C/charisma-carpenter/me716-charism
a_carpenter_002.jpg . This picture was in Maxim a bit ago and it seems to me
that the subtle outline of an implant can be seen if one closely examines
the area in question. Yes, it's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it. :)
This being said, I think that CC's "boob job" (if there really is one) is
extremely well done. Granted, I don't think anyone should ever get one for
any reason at all (except possibly for a radical mastectomy, and then only
for the patient's morale if required), but if someone really _has_ to have
one, please keep it subtle.
Best.
Michelle Trachtenberg turned 16 last November (she's about a half year
older than Dawn, who is 15 and has her birthday, apparently, in the
spring, based on her talk with Riley in the park).
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In the name of hell I meant seeing the tat on her back on the Buffy
series, sweetheart!
>i've seem the tattoo on her back during an angel ep. since i've only
>been watching this year's eps, i couldn't have been that long ago.
Yeah, Cordy's been seen from behind in hiphugger-style pants and a
crop top. Not that I was actually staring at that part of the screen.
>Granted, I don't think anyone should ever get one for
>any reason at all (except possibly for a radical mastectomy, and then only
>for the patient's morale if required), but if someone really _has_ to have
>one, please keep it subtle.
I agree but I'll add that sometimes a woman's bustline can literally
go *way* south due to weight loss or any of a number of conditions,
and *minor* enhancement is fine there too. Why shouldn't she be able
to look her age? 30, 40 years old with more droop than a 70-year-old
grandmother? It's depressing. Fix it.
>In the name of hell I meant seeing the tat on her back on the Buffy
>series, sweetheart!
Duh, sorry, poorly worded I guess. Like I said, Cordy's backside has
shown a bit above lowrider jeans and below cropped tops. One or two
episodes earlier this season I think.
Would "leering" be a better term? :)
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> Second,
> http://www.andesdesigns.com/celebs/images/C/charisma-carpenter/me716-charism
> a_carpenter_002.jpg . This picture was in Maxim a bit ago and it seems to me
> that the subtle outline of an implant can be seen if one closely examines
> the area in question. Yes, it's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it. :)
I have to go with you on this. It does look like an implant.
Ummm...16 will still get you rent controled living space, spiffy
numbered clothing, and a brand new s.o. in most of the US
CC, AH, and SMG are all legal...MT is slightly more aged very tempting
jailbait
You should have seen Amy Acker at the Buffy PBP party. Like you, I never
found her particularly attractive from watching the show but when she
walked through the door at the party, my jaw hit the floor.
The woman is *beautiful* and shapely and a real knockout. They really go
out of their way to make her plain and frumpy on the show.
> They really go
> out of their way to make her plain and frumpy on the show.
They don't do a very good job of it. Fred was stunning enough when she
was wearing sackcloth and ashes on Pylea.
OT: I saw VP Cheney on TV the other night. I'd swear he was packing a
piece under his jacket. Can he do that on TV?
Yes, dang these starlets for merely showing their butt cracks and no full
frontal at all!!
Rose
Member, Feral Cats Brigade
Actually, it's a reference to Sarah saying in a magazine interview that she
does not want to see Carmen Diaz's buttcrack on the cover of Vanity Fair. :)
Why couldn't he? There's no law against carrying a gun while being
televised.
It is not that the producers have not tried to exploit her budding
sexuality every now and then. Have you noticed when the producers
whant to stress her childishness her long locks strategically covers
her breast? And in other times when they want her to be seen as a
future sexbomb they have her hair behind her back and wearing tight
form fitting tops and dresses like in her white dress (IIRC) in the
Musical episode? The producers are at times dangling her in front of
us you know. Call it a transition period.
BTW, when Angel was brought over (turned into a vampire) he was about
what? 28 years old? And when Buffy and Angel first, shall we say,
"engaged" (and Angel loosing his soul as a result) she was seventeen?
Barely legal.(Yes I know SMG was actually 20, 21 years old at the time
but the protrayal was of a 17 year old girl.) I think Buffy was being
protrayed as a mild sex symbol before then. IIRC there was some very
passionate kissing before the character turned 16.
SMG then, MT now.
---->Hunter
(snip)
----->Hunter
Compare CC with the first season she was on and the the last one and you'll
see the difference. I don't think she could "naturally" grow that much since
she is pretty much an adult.
> I can't confirm, but it seems like it to me, too. I base this on two things.
>
> First, what seems to me to be quite a difference in bust line from the
> beginning of _Buffy_ season 2 compared to the end.
>
> Second,
> http://www.andesdesigns.com/celebs/images/C/charisma-carpenter/me716-charism
> a_carpenter_002.jpg . This picture was in Maxim a bit ago and it seems to me
> that the subtle outline of an implant can be seen if one closely examines
> the area in question. Yes, it's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it. :)
I would really caution anyone who thinks they can tell from magazine
pictures to think again. I have personally seen what they can do to
those pictures to make them look "More Human than Human" as another
poster put it and I have to tell you that you CANNOT believe what you
see. If you think you can tell from episode footage, that would be
one thing, but magazine pics are not evidence. No way. They make
people look like perfect plastic who are quite real and human.
RM
I wish I could claim sagacious comedy brilliance for that one, but alas....
Best.
Um, since most of the posters here are guys I'll jump in and mention one
thing they don't tend to think of, which is that young women do sometimes
grow that much naturally, especially if they have had a baby. (I remember
guys making comments about Scully's chest on the X-Files after she had her
first baby and not making the connection.)
I saw the Angel show once (the one with the evening dress when they went to
the ballet), and CC looked like a young woman who had had a child. Did she?
If not, then maybe you are right and silicon is involved. Or maybe she eats
lots of beef and the cattle growth hormones have taken their toll. It
happens!
As for the original poster and the comments about MT, I hope the guy is a
teenager! My hubby and I are creeped out by her, and we are responding not
just to looks but to the repulsiveness of her "acting."
Where's the corresponding thread slavering over the guys? I'm sure one will
come up after Riley comes back. Hey, I read a lot of riley-hating comments
here, but I always thought he was a cutie-pie :)
>BTW, when Angel was brought over (turned into a vampire) he was about
>what? 28 years old? And when Buffy and Angel first, shall we say,
>"engaged" (and Angel loosing his soul as a result) she was seventeen?
>Barely legal
Ilegal in the State of California.
Exactly. Which was the point of my "photos getting touched up"
comment earlier. Magazine photos in particular are often just
one step or so away from total fantasy. In fact, thats the point -
to make one look as "perfect" as possible - especially photos
of women. So the last place one should look for proof of whether a
woman has had silicon implants is a magazine photo. And judging from
the advanced makeup and other accoutrements used, the next to last
place to look is probably a television show.
--
>
> Actually, it's a reference to Sarah saying in a magazine interview that she
> does not want to see Carmen Diaz's buttcrack on the cover of Vanity Fair. :)
And I bet Charisma would have a much classier response than Cameron did.
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All I have to say is: OH MY GOD!!!
I saw it when she was on the KTLA morning news last year. Sam Rubin
asked her about it and she said she's not allowed to show it on the
show. If you notice, she always has something on her left wrist, like
a watch, a bracelet, or leather wristband.
You may be underestimating the efficacy of modern bra technology.
That could easily explain any perceived change in the show's footage.
>
> Second,
<snip>
> Best.
Generally true, but aren't photos usually touched up to _remove_ things like
we see in the one in question? Did she piss off the imaging staff (or
whoever does this) to the point they said "Hey! Let's make her breasts look
fake so fewer people buy our magazine!" Just seems odd.
I also want to add a disclaimer here so nobody gets the wrong idea.
Regardless of possible breastly accoutrements, CC is one of the most
attractive women I've ever seen and she's also become quite a serviceable
actress. I'd gleefully tune in to an Angel ep entitled "Cordy Goes Grocery
Shopping: A One-Woman Show". I keep checking Ebay for back episodes of the
_Cordy!_ show, even though I know it doesn't exist. You get the picture...
Just wanted to set the record straight. :)
Best.
> I'd gleefully tune in to an Angel ep entitled "Cordy Goes Grocery
> Shopping: A One-Woman Show". I keep checking Ebay for back episodes of the
> _Cordy!_ show, even though I know it doesn't exist. You get the picture...
I'm with you! Love that CC.
RM
---->Hunter
It's one of the cleavagey slut-bomb (can you say "5 by 5"? :) ) pictures
from her first Maxim layout. The overly long link I posted was:
http://www.andesdesigns.com/celebs/images/C/charisma-carpenter/me716-charism
a_carpenter_002.jpg
I'm sure it's a bunch of other places as well.
Best.
Ahh, yeah, I had probs with the overly long link. I'll try to pay
attention next time. Now that I have seen it, I think I'll go with
"YIKES!" I'm not even gonna' try and explain any more!! (But I still
love the character and think she's hot.)
Thanks!
RM
>You should have seen Amy Acker at the Buffy PBP party. Like you, I never
>found her particularly attractive from watching the show but when she
>walked through the door at the party, my jaw hit the floor.
>
>The woman is *beautiful* and shapely and a real knockout. They really go
>out of their way to make her plain and frumpy on the show.
Most commonly heard sentence in regard to women on Mutant Enemy shows:
"They really go out of their way to make her plain and frumpy on the
show." See: Willow, Tara, sometimes Buffy, and now Fred.
Guys like BTR and me can see through that stuff; we know beauty when
we see it.
>There should be a national standard of seventeen
>for the age of consent. Common sense (which the law lacks a
>frighteningly large number of times. More than you want to know).
I think there's a thing in the Constitution that says the states
should be left to take care of their own business. C'reck me if I am
wrong. One'a them first ten amendments I think.
>To each his own. Ms. Acker doesn't do a thing for me. Too thin, no
>figure, no breast; Face too squarish; Nothing appeals to me about her
>physically. Incidently I am juging her by her appearence in her dress
>when the gang went to the Opera two episodes ago.
I'm on record as a Fred fan but I'll agree the opera dress was sorta
unflattering. I think she should've worn something more friendly to
her modest decollete'. In other words the shoulderless thing made her
look flatchested when she's actually not.
>But even in sweats
>and sneakers 'Fred can't compete with Cordelia! Now that is how a
>woman should be built!
Well, duh. But the beauty of women is in the fact that no two are
alike; I find CC quite attractive but I do not find Fred unattractive
at all.
>Compare CC with the first season she was on and the the last one and you'll
>see the difference. I don't think she could "naturally" grow that much since
>she is pretty much an adult.
I'm of the belief that she's been enhanced since before she started on
BTVS.
Charisma Carpenter, coming out of the premiere of "Eyes Wide Shut:"
"Nicole Kidman has the cutest butt I've ever seen!"
Well, even with a mirror it's difficult to get a good look at your own
butt.
Yep, the one that gets ignored more than any other when the Federales
decide "there oughtta be a law." So, for example, when they can't set
the drinking age for all states because of that pesky Power Reserved to
the State protected by the amendment you mention, they just make it so
highway funds only go to states that have a drinking age of at least 21.
It would have to have been since before she was a high school
cheerleader then, 'cause there are pictures. But if you review the
episodes just to look for this kind of changes, concentrate on the
period around when she suffered the chest wound falling on the rebar in
"Lover's Walk."(middle of season 2). She made huge changes in her makeup
that made her look like Skeletor, and seems to me she lost a bunch of
weight right around then, which she has fortunately since gained back.
>>Subject: Re: Charisma Carpenter MAXIM Photos
>>From: h_l...@bigpond.com (Mad Hamish)
>>Date: 2/22/2002 2:38 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <3c761f89...@bri-news.tpg.com.au>
>>
>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:52:16 +0800, BTR1701 <BTR...@ix.netcom.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <20020220165805...@mb-cg.aol.com>,
>>>fyl...@aol.comspam (Mrs. Poet) wrote:
>>>
>>>> >Subject: Charisma Carpenter MAXIM Photos
>>>> >From: BTR1701 BTR...@ix.netcom.com
>>>> >Date: 2/19/2002 11:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>>> >Message-id: <BTR1702-55AF9E...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
>>>> >
>>>> >For those interested, Charisma's latest Maxim layout photos are here:
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Sarah Michelle Gellar will disapprove of at least one of those I bet...
>>>
>>>And I'm sure Ms. Carpenter is just dying for Gellar's approval... ;-)
>>
>>It's a reference to one of Sarah's SNL appearances where she did the
>>Holding Your Own Boobs magazine advert.
>>--
>
>Actually, it's a reference to Sarah saying in a magazine interview that she
>does not want to see Carmen Diaz's buttcrack on the cover of Vanity Fair. :)
>
That works too...
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Mark Nobles wrote:
> BTR1701 <BTR...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
> OT: I saw VP Cheney on TV the other night. I'd swear he was packing a
> piece under his jacket. Can he do that on TV?
He can do anything he wants to--he's the President.
Mark Nobles wrote:
There's ways around that, too. States can set the drinking age to 21 in
order to receive the highway funds, but it doesn't mean they have to be
gung-ho about enforcing under 21 drinking laws. I bet there are plenty
of, if not whole states, regions within those states, where the prevailing
authorities feel 18+ is an OK age to drink and look the other way.
Ahhh, no. He is the *Vice* President. George W is the President.
--
>Most commonly heard sentence in regard to women on Mutant Enemy shows:
>"They really go out of their way to make her plain and frumpy on the
>show." See: Willow, Tara, sometimes Buffy, and now Fred.
And Anya.
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Graham: "Maybe she's Canadian."
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That's the way it was back in the 70's with the federally-madated 55 MPH
speed limit. The states had to do it or lose funding but Montana decided
it didn't like being told what to do by the feds so they set the fine
for speeding at $1.00 payable to the officer on the side of the road.
That way it never went on your driving record, your insurance rates
wouldn't go up, etc. People would just keep a stack of $1.00 bills in
their car with them in case they got pulled over.
And the highway patrol would only pull people over for particularly
egregious offenses anyway.
Tammy Stephanie Davis wrote:
I knew my sarcastically-baited hook would catch one fish unaware
of the concept.
Oh, I see. This was part of your master plan: To mistakenly
identify the Vice President as the President of the United States
then play it off as some great plan to misidentify the President
of the United States thus saving the world for God and Country.
Yeah.
--
----->Hunter
I believe the actual wording of the act is "... For immoral purposes..."
rather than specifying prostitution.
Which, if you could afford to get technical before The Supreme Court,
might make the act unconstitutional because that puts it way outside the
"Interstate Commerce" cover that the Feds use to justify holding Highway
funding up as a threat to bully the States, while specifying prostitution,
an act of commerce, would make it fit.
Anyway, It would still make sense to come to some agreement on this
issue just to avoid confusion. While I understand the State's Rights
issue, it still underminds common sense.
----->Hunter
There are pleanty of times you can spy the tattoo on Charisma's back on
the show. I keep track of them for the trivia section on my web site.
For instance in season 1:
The first time was in Rm w/a Vu, during the fight with the ghost at the
end.
http://angel.fcpages.com/angel/angel105-tattoo.jpg
The second time was in Sense and Sensitivity, when breaking in to the
police station.
http://angel.fcpages.com/angel/angel106-tattoo.jpg
The third time was in Parting Gifts when she goes to make coffee.
http://angel.fcpages.com/angel/angel110-tattoo.jpg
Lot's of others in later seasons, as they hid it less often after season
1.
Isn't it amazing what you find when you read the episode guides on my
site?
Mathew
http://angel.fcpages.com/
>I understand what you mean but if we are going to protect underage
>girls the standard should be the same everywhere. Perhap a
>modification of the Mann Act (the law forbiding the transportation of
>women across state lines for prostitution purposes) can be worked out.
>No lawyer here so go easy.
Well, I imagine that's why they thought there should be *any* Federal
laws, to prevent people from just crossing the borders to do what they
want where it's legal to do so. Like the ludicrousness of having dry
counties, which just encourages people to drive to other counties to
drink. And then drive home drunk. Reeeal smart.
>>Most commonly heard sentence in regard to women on Mutant Enemy shows:
>>"They really go out of their way to make her plain and frumpy on the
>>show." See: Willow, Tara, sometimes Buffy, and now Fred.
>
>And Anya.
D'oh! Sorry Anya fans, her too.
>Arctos <arcto...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>Most commonly heard sentence in regard to women on Mutant Enemy shows:
>>>"They really go out of their way to make her plain and frumpy on the
>>>show." See: Willow, Tara, sometimes Buffy, and now Fred.
>>
>>And Anya.
>
>D'oh! Sorry Anya fans, her too.
There appear to be only two ways around this:
1) Look _so_ good you can carry off anything the costumers throw at you (cf:
Carpenter, C.)
2) Get the "bad girl" part, and the leather pants that go with it (cf: Dushku,
E.)
>
>"Tammy Stephanie Davis" <t...@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu> wrote in message
>news:2U7d8.456$Cf5....@news.itd.umich.edu...
>> In article <Xns91BC5F1D...@209.155.56.97>,
>> Brian Christopher Robinson <a@b.c> wrote:
>> :Sandoz <a@y.z> wrote in news:3C7416D7.A09DB49@y.z:
>> :
>> :> Oh CC...you are so much more of a woman than all the little petite
>girls
>> :> on Buffy...they can't hold a candle to you!
>> :
>> :Too bad her lack of petiteness is mostly silicon.
>>
>> Oh this is a new one. Tell me, where did you confirm that CC
>> has has silicon implants?
>>
>> --
>
>Tammy,
>
>I can't confirm, but it seems like it to me, too. I base this on two things.
>
>First, what seems to me to be quite a difference in bust line from the
>beginning of _Buffy_ season 2 compared to the end.
>
>Second,
>http://www.andesdesigns.com/celebs/images/C/charisma-carpenter/me716-charism
>a_carpenter_002.jpg . This picture was in Maxim a bit ago and it seems to me
>that the subtle outline of an implant can be seen if one closely examines
>the area in question. Yes, it's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it. :)
Or it might be that it's lighting effects.
In fact if you look down near the bottom of her ribs you can see other
strange effects which make me suspect that it's a lighitng effect
rather than anything else
(and other possibility would be that there is tape on the top of the
breasts to hold them in shape or that somebody has done an airbrushing
job.
Maxim, FHM etc are very well known for doing that (It's been
confirmed that there was alteration of Sarah's photo on the cover of
FHM to show more breat, Eliza is supposed to be unimpressed because
they've altered her breasts on a shoot)
>Generally true, but aren't photos usually touched up to _remove_ things like
>we see in the one in question?
No,
Photos are touched up for the particular image that they want.
FHM, Maxim etc appear to have the view that 'boobs are made to be
exaggurated'
> Did she piss off the imaging staff (or
>whoever does this) to the point they said "Hey! Let's make her breasts look
>fake so fewer people buy our magazine!" Just seems odd.
Pamela Anderson, Jenny McCarthy, Anna Nicole Smith...
> Maxim, FHM etc are very well known for doing that (It's been
> confirmed that there was alteration of Sarah's photo on the cover of
> FHM to show more breat, Eliza is supposed to be unimpressed because
> they've altered her breasts on a shoot)
Her exact quote was: "They made me look like I had a fuckin' tit job!
Look at that! They're like little perfectly round coconuts!"
>Sandoz <a@y.z> wrote in news:3C7416D7.A09DB49@y.z:
>
>> Oh CC...you are so much more of a woman than all the little petite girls
>> on Buffy...they can't hold a candle to you!
>
>Too bad her lack of petiteness is mostly silicon.
I've seen her in person. She's pretty petite by most normal standards.
I saw her in the Beverly Center once with her cute little dog. I've
also seen Emma and J-August in the Bev Center every now and then.
And N. Brendan does his laundry at the laundrymat near my house.
Oh...to live in LA.