-Willows TAROT Cards-
W. Rose
I have decided to buy some Tarot cards and I found
a few web pages that offer many types of cards. But
I just had a thought. In the episode when Willow
does the spell that joins Giles, Xander, Buffy,
and her, I think she used Tarot cards to cast it.
Would anyone here know enough about Tarot cards
to identify what type of cards she used and could
you give me an idea of where I could get them or
what name I would be looking for to so I can try
to find a set of cards exactly like hers?
There are so many decks listed with many different
picture sets and labels.... I would never know
unless I bought EVERY deck and compared them to
the ones shown during the spell.
http://www.global-perspectives.com/divination/tarot/index.html
http://www.usgamesinc.com/usgs/tarot/tarot_frame.html
http://www.wingsoflove.net/tarot.htm
http://www.djmcadam.com/tarot.htm
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Before you buy.
Randy Burgess
Having said that the following is an opinion.
I think the cards that were used were created for the show by the props
department and do not actually exist. They are way bigger than any
Tarot deck I've ever seen and the Heart, Mind, Spirit, Hands cards look
like nothing I recall in Tarot - Now it may be that this is just a
completely different style of Tarot (there are many) and I am not
familiar with many beyond the classic Rider-Waite deck. but the Hands
card is definitely not in Tarot as far as I know.
Al Smith
real Tarot deck. There are no cards in the Tarot depicting
separate body parts, although the Three of Swords in the Waite
Tarot does show a heart with three swords plunged through it,
and the Aces show hands extending out of clouds.
From the quick glance I got of the cards, I can say that they are
in the style of the Rider Tarot, first published by the occult
book publisher Rider in London in 1910, also known as the Waite
Tarot because it was designed by the writer on occult subjects,
Arthur Edward Waite. The deck was illustrated by the artist
Pamela Colman Smith, one of Waite's students when Waite was
running his own esoteric lodge.
The Rider pack is the most commonly used Tarot, both in its
original form and in numerous knock-off decks that employ the
original Smith designs but alter them slightly in an effort to
make them more visually attractive (and maybe to simulate a
measure of originality). The BOTA Tarot is one such knock-off. So
is the Aquarian Tarot, which is a very pretty deck for those who
like pretty.
The thing that set the Waite Tarot apart from other decks in its
day was the use of pictures on the number cards instead of
multiples of the suit symbol. This was something of a daring
innovation for Waite, although he did not invent it -- merely
copied the concept from much older decks that had fallen out of
common use.
A lot of modern Tarot decks immitate Waite's practice of separate
scenes on the number cards (blak! phooy! it's a degradation of
Tarot symbolism, but that aside) because it makes the Tarot
somewhat more interesting, visually, and also allows the
designers to impose their personal views about the meanings of
the number cards on their buyers.
If you are seriously interested in the Tarot, there are only two
decks of value. One is the Heron Tarot of Marseilles. This is
more or less identical to the common Marseilles deck that exists
in numerous editions, but the colors of the Heron Tarot are
esoterically meaningful, and the colors of the other Marseilles
packs, such as the Grimaud Tarot, are not.
The other important deck is the Thoth Tarot of Aleister Crowley.
This is the crowning achievement in Tarot symbolism. No other
deck can even approach it. Unfortunately, most of the meaning of
the symbolism is lost on most of those using the deck. It has a
reputation for being evil, which is simply silly.
By all means, buy and use Waite's deck, but don't get too
attached to it. When you develope some understanding of the Tarot
you should move on to the Heron Marseilles deck or the Thoth
deck.
W. Rose <ja...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>I have decided to buy some Tarot cards and I found
>a few web pages that offer many types of cards. But
>I just had a thought. In the episode when Willow
>does the spell that joins Giles, Xander, Buffy,
>and her, I think she used Tarot cards to cast it.
>
>Would anyone here know enough about Tarot cards
>to identify what type of cards she used and could
>you give me an idea of where I could get them or
>what name I would be looking for to so I can try
>to find a set of cards exactly like hers?
>
>There are so many decks listed with many different
>picture sets and labels.... I would never know
>unless I bought EVERY deck and compared them to
>the ones shown during the spell.
>
>http://aeclectic.net/tarot/
>
>http://www.global-perspectives.com/divination/tarot/index.html
>
>http://www.usgamesinc.com/usgs/tarot/tarot_frame.html
>
>http://www.wingsoflove.net/tarot.htm
>
>http://www.djmcadam.com/tarot.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
>
>
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Djinn
>If you are seriously interested in the Tarot, there are only two
>decks of value.
Personally I like the Walker deck. But IMHO anyone thinking about getting a
deck should ignore all our opinions and go with the deck they are drawn to.
Go to a new age shop where they can let you see the cards rather than some
book store that sells them sight unseen. Choose the symbolism you feel
comfortable with. </soap box>
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Dennis
> I have decided to buy some Tarot cards and I found
> a few web pages that offer many types of cards. But
> I just had a thought. In the episode when Willow
> does the spell that joins Giles, Xander, Buffy,
> and her, I think she used Tarot cards to cast it.
> Would anyone here know enough about Tarot cards
> to identify what type of cards she used and could
> you give me an idea of where I could get them or
> what name I would be looking for to so I can try
> to find a set of cards exactly like hers?
Pretty sure it was either a custom-made deck or some other kind of
cards which are not Tarot.
"And what makes you think that?" I can almost hear you ask.
'cause a normal Tarot deck doesn't contain any of the cards they used
in the spell.
The illustrations depicted on the cards (there's a decent closeup of
Manus at http://www.sunnydale.simplenet.com/shots2/restless1.jpg;
though it's from "Restless", I'm pretty sure it's the same card they
used in "Primeval", which I couldn't find any vidcaps of) look a lot
like the ones on the Rider-Waite deck, which is the most common (and
one of the best-liked) decks out there.
I'm not terribly fond of it, personally, but I'm weird that way.
--Dennis
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The Senator
value.>>
My cards are The Tarot of the Cat People. Instructions and illustrations by
Karen Kuykendall. I think they're rather fascinating, compared to the more
traditional card sets I've seen.
Teresa
"I guess this is the part where you tell me your emotional anguish justifies
your behavior and all that other bad-guy crap." - Henry.
W. Rose
Cool info!! Thx!! :)
But I have another question for you.
I had no recording of "Primeval", but I found one on
Easy-News (a multimedia news group archive/viewer)
and watched it on my, "ahem", work computer... shhh :)
(they got a T1 here...) 91 megabytes is a lota data!!
And that was just for part 5 of 5...
Anyhoo... I was able to sneak it past the network guys
and rewatch the scene. This is what I was able to gather:
She lays down the first card
In front of her and says,
Willow: "Spiritus... Spirit..."
From what I can see it is a 3.5" x 5.0"
size card with a colorful picture of a
person (or ghost) in a white robe with
snakes or tentacles. The back of the card
had a regular pattern of short lines of
dark color.
Then she hands a card to Xander,
and he says,
Xander: "Enemus... heart..."
While handing it to him it appeared
to have a picture of a Knight holding
up a sword on the right side and a big
lions head on the left side.
Then she hands the next card to Giles
and Giles says,
Giles: "Serphus... Mind..."
When he lays his card down it appears
to be a robed figure holding up a lantern
with short streaks of yellow light spreading
from it. And I could see the letters P-H-U-S
at the bottom of his card, the beginning of
the word was covered by his hand.
Then she draws the last card (which we never
see clearly) and holds it up and says,
Willow: "Igmanus... Hand..."
Now, from my research I see that a deck of
cards of this type cost from $20-$60 dollars
most around $30. It would be ridiculous for
them to put production into designing and
creating four cards that can be purchased
for a fraction of the cost in a fraction of
the time.
So I believe they bought a deck of cards
for Alyson to hold up whilst saying her
witchy words...
Now, just for the novelty of it, I wan to
buy a deck just like hers. For no other
reason but to boast that I have cards
just like Willows on Buffy the Vampire
Slayer.... <G>
But, I want to make sure I have the
words correct and spelled right.
Are Spiritus, Enemus, Serphus,
and Igmanus words on the natural
Tarot cards or are they on "ANY"
variation of nonstandard Tarot decks?
Also, if someone out there happens
to have Primeval on tape and has
close captioning on their TV...
Might you check the "Spelling"
of what I thought I heard over my
computer speaker VS. what the
text on the screen says. Thx.
In article <13de353f...@usw-ex0102-013.remarq.com>,
> If you are seriously interested in the Tarot, there are only two
> decks of value. One is the Heron Tarot of Marseilles. This is
> more or less identical to the common Marseilles deck that exists
> in numerous editions, but the colors of the Heron Tarot are
> esoterically meaningful, and the colors of the other Marseilles
> packs, such as the Grimaud Tarot, are not.
>
> The other important deck is the Thoth Tarot of Aleister Crowley.
> This is the crowning achievement in Tarot symbolism. No other
> deck can even approach it. Unfortunately, most of the meaning of
> the symbolism is lost on most of those using the deck. It has a
> reputation for being evil, which is simply silly.
>
> By all means, buy and use Waite's deck, but don't get too
> attached to it. When you develope some understanding of the Tarot
> you should move on to the Heron Marseilles deck or the Thoth
> deck.
> W. Rose <ja...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >I have decided to buy some Tarot cards and I found
> >a few web pages that offer many types of cards. But
> >I just had a thought. In the episode when Willow
> >does the spell that joins Giles, Xander, Buffy,
> >and her, I think she used Tarot cards to cast it.
> >
> >Would anyone here know enough about Tarot cards
> >to identify what type of cards she used and could
> >you give me an idea of where I could get them or
> >what name I would be looking for to so I can try
> >to find a set of cards exactly like hers?
> >
Coughlan #1
"Djinn" <gleen...@erols.com> wrote:
> Personally I like the Walker deck. But IMHO anyone thinking about
getting a
> deck should ignore all our opinions and go with the deck they are
drawn to.
> Go to a new age shop where they can let you see the cards rather than
some
> book store that sells them sight unseen. Choose the symbolism you
feel
> comfortable with. </soap box>
>
> - Djinn
Crap though 'me too' posts are, me too.
I bought the Renaissance deck by Brian Williams not long after it came
out. Just looked at some in the shop and just fell in love with it
utterly. I had to replace it a while ago as it's a bit knackered after
15 years, and I bought the same deck. 'S jus' gorgeous.
#1
Coughlan #1
W. Rose <ja...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
...and then I snipped a very clear description of a deck.
I don't recognise them, but have you tried asking over at alt.tarot?
There are one or two people in there who might be able to help.
#1
Al Smith
They do look like read Tarot cards, don't they? They may be real
cards, for all I know, since there are a lot of odd card decks
floating around, but they are not Tarot cards. The Tarot has a
very definite structure, and those four cards aren't a part of
it.
The Tarot contains 78 cards divided into three groups: 22 trumps,
16 court cards, 40 number cards. You can also divide the cards
into two groups, the 22 picture cards and the 56 suit cards. The
trumps are referred to as the Major Arcana, and the number cards
plus the court cards as the Minor Arcana. The Minor Arcana
(plural form) are much like a deck of regular playing cards but
with an extra court card in each of the four suits.
Consequently, since the cards shown on Buffy were picture cards,
they did not come from the Minor Arcana. Nor are they a part of
the Major Arcana, which contains the following trumps:
0-The Fool (Foolish Man -- sometimes this card is unnumbered)
I-The Magician (or Magus, or Juggler)
II-The High Priestess (or the Pappess [female pope])
III-The Empress
IV-The Emperor
V-The Hierophant (or the Pope)
VI-The Lovers
VII-The Chariot
VIII-Strength (or Fortitude -- sometimes numbered XI)
IX-The Hermit (sometimes Prudence)
X-The Wheel (or Wheel of Fortune, or Fortune)
XI-Justice (sometimes numbered VIII)
XII-The Hanged Man
XIII-Death (in older decks this card is numbered but not named)
XIV-Temperance
XV-The Devil
XVI-The Tower (or Tower Struck By Lightning, or Blasted Tower)
XVII-The Star
XVIII-The Moon
XIX-The Sun
XX-Judgment (or The Last Judgement)
XXI-The World (or the Universe)
Crowley called Strength, Lust, and Justice, Adjustment. There are
minor variations in the titles of the trumps. Some pagans dislike
references to the Devil and call this card (quite incorrectly)
the Horned God. The Tarot was created by Italians during the
Renaissance, and the Devil definitely is the Devil, not a pagan
deity. In older decks, the Fool was unnumbered and traditionally
placed between XX-Judgment and XXI-The World.
The thing is, you can't mess around too much with the images of
the Tarot trumps or the names for the trumps, or whatever card
deck you end up with will no longer be the Tarot.
There were extended Tarot packs containing additional picture
cards, but none of these extended packs contain the cards shown
on "Buffy."
Good luck finding the card deck used on the show. It may exist,
but if it does, it isn't a real Tarot deck. Sorry I can't
identify it.
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John Baker
> Xander: "Enemus... heart..."
I think "Animus." Which of course is otherwise "life."
That other word would be the one for "intestinal health."
John Baker
"Manus," I think
John Baker
> cards of this type cost from $20-$60 dollars
> most around $30. It would be ridiculous for
> them to put production into designing and
> creating four cards that can be purchased
> for a fraction of the cost in a fraction of
> the time.
Were I a decent illustrator, I could dash off those cards in forty-five
minutes on my Mac, print them to a color laser and have them finished
within the hour. I'm sure that's what they did.
C. Barrans
I don't need closed captioning for this...
"Spiritus" you got right: it's the Latin word for spirit.
The word they used for heart is "Animus," which is actually a Latin word
for soul (I think). It's the root of English words like "animal" and
"animated."
The word they used for mind is a Greek word, "Sophos," meaning wisdom.
It's a root found in English words like "sophisticated," "philosophy"
(combined with "philo" meaning love, this means love of wisdom), and
"sophomore" (the other part of sophomore is from the Greek word "Moros,"
meaning foolish; a sophomore is a wise fool!).
And the Latin word for hand is "Manus." From this word we get English
words like "manipulate" and "manuscript."
-- CB
former linguistics major
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Others see it in shades of grey.
Can you dream in color?
W. Rose
John Baker <fo...@spammersmustdie.mpinet.net> wrote:
> In article <8jfse1$flg$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, ja...@my-deja.com says...
> > cards of this type cost from $20-$60 dollars
> > most around $30. It would be ridiculous for
> > them to put production into designing and
> > creating four cards that can be purchased
> > for a fraction of the cost in a fraction of
> > the time.
>
five
> minutes on my Mac, print them to a color laser and have them finished
> within the hour. I'm sure that's what they did.
>
It costs lets say $30 dollars to buy a pack.
They pay the production staff $40 an hour
and someone whould have to come up with four
designs, find the right paper, draw up all 4,
then get them to print right on both sides
of the paper (which can take time cuz I
know you have to make little tweaks to
contrast and color and stuff to get a
good print) (I have a 24" wide color int
jet I have made over 100 prints on)
All and all a whole hell of a lot of
wasted time and money of you can simply
buy a 3.5 x 5 inch pach and pull out
four cards that look pretty...
Willow can say whatever words she wants
and we would not know the difference
cuz we hardly saw the cards at all.
It only makes sense to buy the cards.
They may have a scene next season where
she uses a Tarot deck for something.
Are they gona design 83 cards and print
them all. May as well use the $30 deck
then too. Makes production a whole lot
easier.
W. Rose
Wow Thx!! I was thinking Latin but I know
not of any words. Ok... I'll just buy me
a pretty looking deck of cards and call
it a night...
In article <395C03E0...@erols.com>,
"C. Barrans" <cbar...@erols.com> wrote:
> I don't need closed captioning for this...
>
> "Spiritus" you got right: it's the Latin word for spirit.
>
> The word they used for heart is "Animus," which is actually a Latin
word
> for soul (I think). It's the root of English words like "animal" and
> "animated."
>
> The word they used for mind is a Greek word, "Sophos," meaning
wisdom.
> It's a root found in English words like "sophisticated," "philosophy"
> (combined with "philo" meaning love, this means love of wisdom), and
> "sophomore" (the other part of sophomore is from the Greek
word "Moros,"
> meaning foolish; a sophomore is a wise fool!).
>
> And the Latin word for hand is "Manus." From this word we get English
> words like "manipulate" and "manuscript."
>
> -- CB
> former linguistics major
>
> «»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»
>
> Some see the world in black and white.
> Others see it in shades of grey.
>
> Can you dream in color?
>
--
W. Rose
†††
John Baker
> All and all a whole hell of a lot of
> wasted time and money of you can simply
> buy a 3.5 x 5 inch pach and pull out
> four cards that look pretty...
Well... perhaps they have an art designer on staff. Betcha.
K.B. Lamke
"W. Rose" wrote:
> Cool info!! Thx!! :)
> But I have another question for you.
>
> I had no recording of "Primeval", but I found one on
> Easy-News (a multimedia news group archive/viewer)
> and watched it on my, "ahem", work computer... shhh :)
> (they got a T1 here...) 91 megabytes is a lota data!!
> And that was just for part 5 of 5...
>
> Anyhoo... I was able to sneak it past the network guys
> and rewatch the scene. This is what I was able to gather:
>
> She lays down the first card
> In front of her and says,
> Willow: "Spiritus... Spirit..."
>
> From what I can see it is a 3.5" x 5.0"
> size card with a colorful picture of a
> person (or ghost) in a white robe with
> snakes or tentacles. The back of the card
> had a regular pattern of short lines of
> dark color.
>
Nope - can't help
>
> Then she hands a card to Xander,
> and he says,
> Xander: "Enemus... heart..."
>
> While handing it to him it appeared
> to have a picture of a Knight holding
> up a sword on the right side and a big
> lions head on the left side.
>
Several cards showing knights -
Knight of pentacles/cups/swords/wands
no lions head, and on pentacles/wands/cups, no sword
in the major arcana there is only the death card
>
> Then she hands the next card to Giles
> and Giles says,
> Giles: "Serphus... Mind..."
>
> When he lays his card down it appears
> to be a robed figure holding up a lantern
> with short streaks of yellow light spreading
> from it. And I could see the letters P-H-U-S
> at the bottom of his card, the beginning of
> the word was covered by his hand.
>
This looks like the hermit, from the major arcana
>
> Then she draws the last card (which we never
> see clearly) and holds it up and says,
> Willow: "Igmanus... Hand..."
>
all the aces in the minor arcana feature hands, or
more accurately a hand.
>
> Now, from my research I see that a deck of
> cards of this type cost from $20-$60 dollars
> most around $30. It would be ridiculous for
> them to put production into designing and
> creating four cards that can be purchased
> for a fraction of the cost in a fraction of
> the time.
>
I doubt it would cost them that much to dummy up four cards
>
> So I believe they bought a deck of cards
> for Alyson to hold up whilst saying her
> witchy words...
>
> Now, just for the novelty of it, I wan to
> buy a deck just like hers. For no other
> reason but to boast that I have cards
> just like Willows on Buffy the Vampire
> Slayer.... <G>
>
I'd go for that, too
>
> But, I want to make sure I have the
> words correct and spelled right.
> Are Spiritus, Enemus, Serphus,
> and Igmanus words on the natural
> Tarot cards or are they on "ANY"
> variation of nonstandard Tarot decks?
>
> Also, if someone out there happens
> to have Primeval on tape and has
> close captioning on their TV...
> Might you check the "Spelling"
> of what I thought I heard over my
> computer speaker VS. what the
> text on the screen says. Thx.
>
>
> http://aeclectic.net/tarot/
>
> http://www.global-perspectives.com/divination/tarot/index.html
>
> http://www.usgamesinc.com/usgs/tarot/tarot_frame.html
>
> http://www.wingsoflove.net/tarot.htm
>
> http://www.djmcadam.com/tarot.htm
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
What about the language? Anybody know it?
Spiritus sounds ok for spirit, but enemus sound more
like enemy,than heart
Mark A. Brown
*SNIP*
>> Then she hands a card to Xander,
>> and he says,
>> Xander: "Enemus... heart..."
>The word they used for heart is "Animus," which is actually a Latin word
>for soul (I think). It's the root of English words like "animal" and
>"animated."
As it was explained to me a few years ago in World Religions class, "Animus"
describes the masculine aspects of the female.
The counterpart is "Anima," the feminine aspects of the male.
I can understand why Willow was invoking Animus, as the increased fighting
skills (symbolically, masculine=destruction, and feminine=creation; opposite
sides of the same coin) are a Slayer trademark.
Mark
"Striking a balance."
ev...@tiac.net
Its Latin.
Manus=hand
Spiritus=Spirit
etc..etc..
kbl...@worldnet.att.net (K.B. Lamke) wrote in
<395D3B5B...@worldnet.att.net>:
>
>
>"W. Rose" wrote:
>
>> Cool info!! Thx!! :)
>> But I have another question for you.
>>
>> I had no recording of "Primeval", but I found one on
>> Easy-News (a multimedia news group archive/viewer)
>> and watched it on my, "ahem", work computer... shhh :)
>> (they got a T1 here...) 91 megabytes is a lota data!!
>> And that was just for part 5 of 5...
>>
>> Anyhoo... I was able to sneak it past the network guys
>> and rewatch the scene. This is what I was able to gather:
>>
>> She lays down the first card
>> In front of her and says,
>> Willow: "Spiritus... Spirit..."
>>
>> From what I can see it is a 3.5" x 5.0"
>> size card with a colorful picture of a
>> person (or ghost) in a white robe with
>> snakes or tentacles. The back of the card
>> had a regular pattern of short lines of
>> dark color.
>>
>
>Nope - can't help
>
>>
>> Then she hands a card to Xander,
>> and he says,
>> Xander: "Enemus... heart..."
>>
>> While handing it to him it appeared
>> to have a picture of a Knight holding
>> up a sword on the right side and a big
>> lions head on the left side.
>>
>
>Several cards showing knights -
>Knight of pentacles/cups/swords/wands
>no lions head, and on pentacles/wands/cups, no sword
>in the major arcana there is only the death card
>
>
>>
>> Then she hands the next card to Giles
>> and Giles says,
>> Giles: "Serphus... Mind..."
>>
>> When he lays his card down it appears
>> to be a robed figure holding up a lantern
>> with short streaks of yellow light spreading
>> from it. And I could see the letters P-H-U-S
>> at the bottom of his card, the beginning of
>> the word was covered by his hand.
>>
>
>This looks like the hermit, from the major arcana
>
>
>>
>> Then she draws the last card (which we never
>> see clearly) and holds it up and says,
>> Willow: "Igmanus... Hand..."
>>
>
>all the aces in the minor arcana feature hands, or
>more accurately a hand.
>
>>
>> Now, from my research I see that a deck of
>> cards of this type cost from $20-$60 dollars
>> most around $30. It would be ridiculous for
>> them to put production into designing and
>> creating four cards that can be purchased
>> for a fraction of the cost in a fraction of
>> the time.
>>
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>I doubt it would cost them that much to dummy up four cards
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>>
>> So I believe they bought a deck of cards
>> for Alyson to hold up whilst saying her
>> witchy words...
>>
>> Now, just for the novelty of it, I wan to
>> buy a deck just like hers. For no other
>> reason but to boast that I have cards
>> just like Willows on Buffy the Vampire
>> Slayer.... <G>
>>
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>I'd go for that, too
>
>>
>> But, I want to make sure I have the
>> words correct and spelled right.
>> Are Spiritus, Enemus, Serphus,
>> and Igmanus words on the natural
>> Tarot cards or are they on "ANY"
>> variation of nonstandard Tarot decks?
>>
>> Also, if someone out there happens
>> to have Primeval on tape and has
>> close captioning on their TV...
>> Might you check the "Spelling"
>> of what I thought I heard over my
>> computer speaker VS. what the
>> text on the screen says. Thx.
>>
>>
>> http://aeclectic.net/tarot/
>>
>> http://www.global-perspectives.com/divination/tarot/index.html
>>
>> http://www.usgamesinc.com/usgs/tarot/tarot_frame.html
>>
>> http://www.wingsoflove.net/tarot.htm
>>
>> http://www.djmcadam.com/tarot.htm
>>
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>> Before you buy.
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