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UNCLE WALLY 2008 ☻ HOOROO !

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Jan 13, 2008, 10:23:57 PM1/13/08
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On Jan 14, 11:12 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
> Interesting to see the mainstream media start to pick this up and
> speak. Nice to see some commentary from someone that may not be
> selling precious metals.
>
> Subprime credit crisis? Just the tip of the iceberg, folks.
>
> You can pat your elitist monkey masters on the back and say, "Thank
> you very much" just before you line them up against a wall a few years
> from now.......................
>
> It's Not 1929, but It's the Biggest Mess Since
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/04/AR200...
>
> By Steven Pearlstein
> Wednesday, December 5, 2007; D01
>
> It was Charles Mackay, the 19th-century Scottish journalist, who
> observed that men go mad in herds but only come to their senses one by
> one.
>
> We are only at the beginning of the financial world coming to its
> senses after the bursting of the biggest credit bubble the world has
> seen. Everyone seems to acknowledge now that there will be lots of
> mortgage foreclosures and that house prices will fall nationally for
> the first time since the Great Depression. Some lenders and hedge
> funds have failed, while some banks have taken painful write-offs and
> fired executives. There's even a growing recognition that a recession
> is over the horizon.
>
> But let me assure you, you ain't seen nothing, yet.
>
> What's important to understand is that, contrary to what you heard
> from President Bush yesterday, this isn't just a mortgage or housing
> crisis. The financial giants that originated, packaged, rated and
> insured all those subprime mortgages were the same ones, run by the
> same executives, with the same fee incentives, using the same
> financial technologies and risk-management systems, who originated,
> packaged, rated and insured home-equity loans, commercial real estate
> loans, credit card loans and loans to finance corporate buyouts.
>
> It is highly unlikely that these organizations did a significantly
> better job with those other lines of business than they did with
> mortgages. But the extent of those misjudgments will be revealed only
> once the economy has slowed, as it surely will.
>
> At the center of this still-unfolding disaster is the Collateralized
> Debt Obligation, or CDO. CDOs are not new -- they were at the center
> of a boom and bust in manufacturing housing loans in the early 2000s.
> But in the past several years, the CDO market has exploded, fueling
> not only a mortgage boom but expansion of all manner of credit. By one
> estimate, the face value of outstanding CDOs is nearly $2 trillion.
>
> But let's begin with the mortgage-backed CDO.
>
> By now, almost everyone knows that most mortgages are no longer held
> by banks until they are paid off: They are packaged with other
> mortgages and sold to investors much like a bond.
>
> In the simple version, each investor owned a small percentage of the
> entire package and got the same yield as all the other investors. Then
> someone figured out that you could do a bigger business by selling
> them off in tranches corresponding to different levels of credit risk.
> Under this arrangement, if any of the mortgages in the pool defaulted,
> the riskiest tranche would absorb all the losses until its entire
> investment was wiped out, followed by the next riskiest and the next.
>
> With these tranches, mortgage debt could be divided among classes of
> investors. The riskiest tranches -- those with the lowest credit
> ratings -- were sold to hedge funds and junk bond funds whose
> investors wanted the higher yields that went with the higher risk. The
> safest ones, offering lower yields and Treasury-like AAA ratings, were
> snapped up by risk-averse pension funds and money market funds. The
> least sought-after tranches were those in the middle, the "mezzanine"
> tranches, which offered middling yields for supposedly moderate risks.
>
> Stick with me now, because this is where it gets interesting. For it
> is at this point that the banks got the bright idea of buying up a
> bunch of mezzanine tranches from various pools. Then, using fancy
> computer models, they convinced themselves and the rating agencies
> that by repeating the same "tranching" process, they could use these
> mezzanine-rated assets to create a new set of securities -- some of
> them junk, some mezzanine, but the bulk of them with the AAA ratings
> more investors desired.
>
> It was a marvelous piece of financial alchemy, one that made Wall
> Street banks and the ratings agencies billions of dollars in fees. And
> because so much borrowed money was used -- in buying the original
> mortgages, buying the tranches for the CDOs and then in buying the
> tranches of the CDOs -- the whole thing was so highly leveraged that
> the returns, at least on paper, were very attractive. No wonder they
> were snatched up by British hedge funds, German savings banks, oil-
> rich Norwegian villages and Florida pension funds.
>
> What we know now, of course, is that the investment banks and ratings
> agencies underestimated the risk that mortgage defaults would rise so
> dramatically that even AAA investments could lose their value.
>
> One analysis, by Eidesis Capital, a fund specializing in CDOs,
> estimates that, of the CDOs issued during the peak years of 2006 and
> 2007, investors in all but the AAA tranches will lose all their money,
> and even those will suffer losses of 6 to 31 percent.
>
> And looking across the sector, J.P. Morgan's CDO analysts estimate
> that there will be at least $300 billion in eventual credit losses,
> the bulk of which is still hidden from public view. That includes at
> least $30 billion in additional write-downs at major banks and
> investment houses, and much more at hedge funds that, for the most
> part, remain in a state of denial.
>
> As part of the unwinding process, the rating agencies are in the midst
> of a massive and embarrassing downgrading process that will force many
> banks, pension funds and money market funds to sell their CDO holdings
> into a market so bereft of buyers that, in one recent transaction, a
> desperate E-Trade was able to get only 27 cents on the dollar for its
> highly rated portfolio.
>
> Meanwhile, banks that are forced to hold on to their CDO assets will
> be required to set aside much more of their own capital as a financial
> cushion. That will sharply reduce the money they have available for
> making new loans.
>
> And it doesn't stop there. CDO losses now threaten the AAA ratings of
> a number of insurance companies that bought CDO paper or insured
> against CDO losses. And because some of those insurers also have
> provided insurance to investors in tax-exempt bonds, states and
> municipalities have decided to pull back on new bond offerings because
> investors have become skittish.
>
> If all this sounds like a financial house of cards, that's because it
> is. And it is about to come crashing down, with serious consequences
> not only for banks and investors but for the economy as a whole.
>
> That's not just my opinion. It's why banks are husbanding their cash
> and why the outstanding stock of bank loans and commercial paper is
> shrinking dramatically.
>
> It is why Treasury officials are working overtime on schemes to stem
> the tide of mortgage foreclosures and provide a new vehicle to buy up
> CDO assets.
>
> It's why state and federal budget officials are anticipating sharp
> decreases in tax revenue next year.
>
> And it is why the Federal Reserve is now willing to toss aside
> concerns about inflation, the dollar and bailing out Wall Street, and
> move aggressively to cut interest rates and pump additional funds
> directly into the banking system.
>
> This may not be 1929. But it's a good bet that it's way more serious
> than the junk bond crisis of 1987, the S&L crisis of 1990 or the
> bursting of the tech bubble in 2001.

So "Mortgage Meltdown" or "The Mother of All Depressions" might be the
phrases
for 2008 to watch ?!??!

HOOROO

UNCLE WALLY

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John Lemke

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Jan 14, 2008, 6:57:46 AM1/14/08
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On Jan 13, 10:23 pm, "UNCLE WALLY 2008 ☻ HOOROO !"
<sgdecember2...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>
> So "Mortgage Meltdown" or "The Mother of All Depressions" might be the
> phrases
> for 2008 to watch ?!??!
>
> HOOROO
>
> UNCLE WALLY
>
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Collapse, fascism, terror, war. Written on the wall behind the bubble.

HOOROO

Uncle Wally 2008 ..... hooroo !

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Jan 14, 2008, 9:23:46 PM1/14/08
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A rather glib, depressing portrayal of our collective future,
certainly no control as in
Orwell's 1984 or Huxley's Brave New World.

What we are witnessing already is actually a more Anarchic type
scenario developing,
Kenya, Somalia, Nigeria, The Congo et al collapsing into tribal
warfare, Pakistan on the brink,
the Gerbils threatening Syria & Iran with their assortment of 400
nukes.

Whether Martial Law is imposed in America is debatable, but it is
still entirely plausable, particularly
if U have another 11/9 type event, only much much much much much much
worse.

Oh well, Merde happens as they say. There ain't a lot U & I can do
about it, John ~!

In the words of Ed Anger from that most "distinguished" of all
periodicals says, "The world is going to hell
in a handbasket & there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it ~!"
~~ or in the words of your Uncle
Wally, "The world, as we currently know it, is totally FRICKED beyond
all repair ~!".

Within the next 4 to 5 years, the Fat Lady will surely strut her stuff
& the proverbial brown stuff will collide
with the Fan ~!"

HOOROO

UNCLE WALLY

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UNCLE WALLY 2008 ☻ HOOROO !

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Jan 15, 2008, 4:18:42 PM1/15/08
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when ye are
multiplied after the dispersion. In the places where it was said, Ye are not
my people, I will call them my people."

728. It was not lawful to sacrifice outside of Jerusalem, which was the
place that the Lord had chosen, nor even to eat the tithes elsewhere. Deut.
12:5, etc.; Deut. 14:23, etc.; 15:20; 16:2, 7, 11, 15.

Hosea foretold that they should be without a king, without a prince, without
a sacrifice, and without an idol; and this prophecy is now fulfilled, as
they cannot make a lawful sacrifice out of Jerusalem.

729. Predictions.--It was foretold that, in the time of the Messiah, He
should come to establish a new covenant, which should make them forget the
escape from Egypt (Jer. 23:5; Is. 43:10); that He should place His law not
in externals, but in the heart; that He should put His fear, which had only
been from without, in the midst of the heart. Who does not see the Christian
law in all this?

730.... That then idolatry would be overthrown; that this Messiah would cast
down all idols and bring men into the worship of the true God.

That the temples of the idols would be cast down, and that among all nations
and in all places of the earth. He would be offered a pure sacrifice, not of
beasts.

That He would be king of the Jews and Gentiles. And we see this king of the
Jews and Gentiles oppressed by both, who conspire His death; and ruler of
both, destroying the worship of Moses in Jerusalem, which was its centre,
where He made His first Church; and also the worship of idols in Rome, the
centr


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