FORGIVE ME: BB11's Natalie Martinez Becomes Married
MRS. CLEAN aka MRS. ROPER
BB11's Natalie Martinez Becomes Married
With Big Brother 12 time closing in on us, plenty of memories from the
great season we had last year come to mind. Actually most of the good
memories didn't involve Natalie, but who could forget her constant
talk about how she was getting married, the proposal she got in the
house and barely reacted to, and the non stop talk about the wedding
planning she'd be doing when she got out of the house. Well we can
now confirm that Natalie's boyfriend Jason Majeran did in fact marry
her, and didn't run for the hills after seeing her behavior on Big
Brother 11. Not many details are available, but Kevin from BB11 took
a couple of pics and posted them on Twitter. From the bits and pieces
we've gathered it seems that Chima and Ronnie were also in
attendance. We're willing to bet that Jessie did not attend.
MRS. CLEAN aka MRS. ROPER
Kevin twittered pictures. I miss Kevin!
David Hecht
do...@webtv.net
Yes, David is right.
I wish them happiness...until Gnat makes the moron hubby hold up a gas
station.
THEN...nail 'em to the CROSS.
:-)
Hunter
2f83e9...@32g2000prq.googlegroups.com>, goldenm...@yahoo.com
says...
Only the people who don't realize her behavior was mostly an act are
surprised.
Seriously, people simply take these things too seriously at least vis
a vis attacking people who appear on a reality game show.
And as for Jessie she gave him fair warning that she was involved on
the outside. Still, she could had been a little more gentle letting
him down (if she was say *very* friendly with Jessie and people
learned she had a boyfriend on the outside that would had been one
more thing heaped on her: She is a cheat, not that it was strategy).
--
----->Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
do...@webtv.net
Hunter said:
"Only the people who don't realize her behavior was mostly an act are
surprised.
Seriously, people simply take these things too seriously at least vis a
vis attacking people who appear on a reality game show."
Possibly...but we saw Gnat, night and day for several months.
She's NOT a sweetie.
Hunter
919bf4...@23g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, goldenm...@yahoo.com
says...
> http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=BBDiscussion&Number=13425573&page=0&view=expanded&sb=6&o=21&rc=&fpart=
>
> Kevin twittered pictures. I miss Kevin!
Nice pics but I wish I had a closer view of the ceremony. But the
closer one with her new hubby and Kevin is nice.
I wish the both of them a long and fruitful life together.
Hunter
do...@webtv.net says...
No less so than most of the people there or on other seasons with the
possible exception of Jordan Lloyd, and even she had her moments.
My argument was NEVER that she was an angel. She has her faults like
anyone else, with her most notably she can be very vindictive (she
meant it apparently that she thought Michele was the devil over what
she did to Chima) just that she was getting a grossly unfair measure
of the blame for things, especially the ridiculous claim she wanted
to do actual real serious bodily harm to people, especially since
most of that really came from Lydia anyway (and Kevin); and also the
singled out for what other people were doing as well, so people may
have watched for seveal months they weren't watching closely or at
least selectively since 90% of the crap attributed to her was
said/done by someone else (and in many cases she warned the other
person against it), taking Michele's gloves excepted (and that is not
unheard of in the history of BB, Janelle being a notable occurrence).
As I said, she is not an angel but most of it was an act.
Anyway if BB 12 is half as exciting as BB 11 was it will be a good
season. Can't wait to see the new housemates to see who will be the
prettiest girl this year.
Brian Smith
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An act? Michele gave her a great chance in the jury questioning to prove
that she realized the game was over and to fess up to what she had done
during the game? If she had done so she would have won the game. However,
Michele knew exactly what she was doing and she ensured that Jordan would
win the game and not Scrappy. If she was acting she sure didn't know when to
stop. I'll also add she was a major instigator of many of the things you
seem to want to blame solely on Lydia and Kevin. Yes, Lydia and Kevin did
come up with some of the crazy ideas but if it wasn't for Scrappy constantly
encouraging them I doubt they would have. I'm also still convinced that if
Chima had not gotten herself kicked out of the game that Scrappy and Kevin
would have been kicked out for the times they spoke in Spanish and wouldn't
quit even after some very stern warnings. Remember Kevin said on the feeds
they got chewed out by Rich which means this was taken as something very
serious. It's very rare that the producers step in to read the HGs the riot
act. Last season must have set a record given how often that happened. If
Arnold was still running the show he probably would have sent them all to
separate rooms in the house for a week!
Brian
do...@webtv.net
I agree with you Hunter.
I wish them the best.
When she finally DOES stab him...I hope he makes it to the hospital in
time.
I kid...I'm a kidder.
do...@webtv.net
Hunter told me his thoughts on MY comments about Gnat.
Hunter, you're a valued member here...and though you're wrong 90% of the
time...we still love you.
I KID! :-) Really...I have been known to kid.
Take a look at Joker's...(I KNOW I should have a link for those who
don't know it...my bad)...try...jokersupdates.com
That description of the new house is amazing.
BUT...the show is LIVE...so there are no spoilers.
Gotta love BB.
I got the Superpass...thanks Bri.
I'm SO nutty.
:-)
do...@webtv.net
Brian gave an AMAZING description of the final speeches.
He mentioned an 'Arnold'...when the only Arnold's "I" know are in Cali
and Ziffel.
You are amazing Bri...and as I said earlier...I took your good
advice...helped oker's...and joined together with the band.
(Notice the 'WHO' reference, UCLAN.)
And UCLAN...during the Blackhawks victory celebration...their video was
backed by ''Join Together".
They made it look like the song was written FOR the video.
Cool.
I'll see if it's on YouTube yet.
UCLAN
> Brian gave an AMAZING description of the final speeches.
>
> He mentioned an 'Arnold'...when the only Arnold's "I" know are in Cali
> and Ziffel.
>
> You are amazing Bri...and as I said earlier...I took your good
> advice...helped oker's...and joined together with the band.
You two *really* need to get a room.
> (Notice the 'WHO' reference, UCLAN.)
>
> And UCLAN...during the Blackhawks victory celebration...their video was
> backed by ''Join Together".
Who are the Blackhawks?
Do you really think I care,
What you read or what you wear?
Brian Smith
news:6839-4C2...@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net...
The no spoilers aspect of BB is great. Of course we still have to be careful
when we post during the season so we don't spoil things for the TV-only
viewers. But technically no one can spoil who is going to be evicted unless
they do a few non-live evictions which hasn't happen for awhile and
hopefully won't happen this season.
Brian
do...@webtv.net
Blackhawks video using a WHO song:
do...@webtv.net
Hunter gave us some nice links.
Thank, Hunt.
(did anyone call you 'Hunt' as a nickname growing up...or did you have
ANOTHER name like 'Butch' or 'Huntalopolus'? :-)
Gnat looked very nice in the pics. Just sweeter than we are used to
seeing her.
However...the comments are brutal about her manly ways.
It would be VERY cool if she were REALLY a man. :-)
OK...kidding.
I think that she's so tough cuz she's insecure...so...she may nestle in
quite well with Hans, or Gunnar...or WHATEVER his name is.
I DO wish them well...as I do most everyone.
Hunter
says...
No she wouldn't had that is like saying if Russell Hantz explained
himself better in S19 of "Survivor" he would had won. No, he wouldn't
had and neither would had Natalie Martinez in BB 11. No matter what
she said, even if she was able to express herself well, which she
couldn't the votes were against her. Hell, there were four sure fire
votes against her in the form of Jeff, Jessie, Lydia, and America's
vote in addition to Michele's vote. Even if Michele voted for Natalie
with Russell Kairouz and Kevin it still would had been 4-3 (If Chima
was still there and everything more or less played out the same then
it would had been at best 4-4.
> However,
> Michele knew exactly what she was doing and she ensured that Jordan would
> win the game and not Scrappy. If she was acting she sure didn't know when to
> stop.
As I said, Natalie was too vindictive in the game when she took the
Michele betraying Chima thing way overboard that much is true. She is
the type of person that if you have her as a friend she is fiercely
loyal to you as we saw with Chima, but if you get on the wrong side
of her she is just as mean spirited to you, as we saw with Michele.
However, acting childish was part of her strategy along with lying
about her age, and it worked. They underestimated her and as a result
they kept her around while they went after perceived greater threats
as she pit them against one another unfortunately just like with
Russell Hantz in "Survivor" it bread resentment in part because she
fooled them so badly and manipulated them relatively easily plus a
bit of hypocrisy thrown in. Just like there was no way Russell
Hantz would've won S19 no matter how eloquent he was. There was no
way Natalie would had won BB 11 no matter how eloquent she was.
>
> I'll also add she was a major instigator of many of the things you
> seem to want to blame solely on Lydia and Kevin. Yes, Lydia and Kevin did
> come up with some of the crazy ideas but if it wasn't for Scrappy constantly
> encouraging them I doubt they would have.
----
It is a good thing I kept all the evidence links form BB 11. She
didn't instigate anything actually dangers, that was Lydia's doing:
No she wasn't. For example she never once instigated Lydia to to put
red dyed M&M in Michele's drink. In fact she discouraged it:
"Jan Zurovec
August 15th, 2009
I don't have an account set up to chat on your site, but I'm
disturbed that nobody took note last night of Lydia suggesting to
Natalie that she put a red candy in Michelle's food. Michelle has
told the HG's that she has a potentially fatal allergy to red dye.
Natalie's reaction was something like "dude, that's mean." The
exchange took place while they were in the red room with the chess
board set up using candy to calendar dates. I really hope production
caught that comment. I plan on finding it on flashback. If I were
Michelle's family I would be making some calls."
And here it is the precise time in flashbacks:
"BB11 Aug 14, 9:25 (50 seconds)PM (Cam 1) Friday
Lydia: "You should slip some of these into Michele's
food"
And it was Natalie that said: "No, because its mean".
Its amazing. You are saying that they are so weak willed that somehow
Natalie beguiled them into making suggestions even jokingly that they
do bodily harm to others? A person they believed-at least Lydia did-
was only 18 years old to their 25 plus years? You have to show how
she encouraged these things. And Kevin showed he knew better by the
things he was saying about Natalie in the DR so it wasn't a case of
her somehow beguiling him into these things. He came up with things
on his own.
It was Kevin himself that suggested stealing Michele's contact lens
cleaner and putting bleach in it. It was Natalie who discouraged him
and he was joking in the first place.
All the truly harmful things that people said she came up with was
the idea of others and she said no to it. I still have the links to
prove it.
>
> I'm also still convinced that if
> Chima had not gotten herself kicked out of the game that Scrappy and Kevin
> would have been kicked out for the times they spoke in Spanish and wouldn't
> quit even after some very stern warnings.
---
Oh wow, that is really is awful! Speaking Spanish! Natalie and Kevin
were threatened with expulsion twice once for breaking the rules by
speaking a foreign language and in code, namely Spanish and Pig
Latin:
http://www.bigbrotherupdates.com/article3782.html
Yeah that ranks up there with Lydia suggesting putting read dye in
Michele's drink or a used dirty tampon under her bed.
>
> Remember Kevin said on the feeds
> they got chewed out by Rich which means this was taken as something very
> serious. It's very rare that the producers step in to read the HGs the riot
> act. Last season must have set a record given how often that happened. If
> Arnold was still running the show he probably would have sent them all to
> separate rooms in the house for a week!
>
> Brian
---
Kevin was called into the DR for moving house objects, that is things
that belong to the house, figurines, nicknacks, pillows, things like
that, NOT personal items personal items belonging to housemates.
Big Brother 11, August 26 Live Feeds: One Last Hurrah
by William Hammon -- 08/27/2009
"However, Big Brother puts the kibosh on this very quickly. Kevin is
called to the diary room and he is informed that hiding objects
constitutes willful altering of the set, a rules violation. He is
warned that if he and Natalie do it again, they will be expelled.
That's twice this week they've been threatened with expulsion. Last
time it was for speaking Spanish and Pig Latin."
You will have to be more specific than that to intimate that it was
something really serious beyond something like that. Other times it
probably was for eating a grape when they were on slop he was chewed
out for and got another slop day added (just like Jeff got another
slop day added when he drank some gatorade when he was on slop) The
worse thing was for Kevin and Natalie moving and hiding household
stuff and not talking in English. Again, you must show something
Natalie herself was guilty of beyond the taking of Michele's gloves.
Speaking of which it wasn't Just Natalie and Kevin who wanted to take
her gloves:
Big Brother Updates August 27, 2009 approximately 1:30 am
Nat just went to the DR, and comes out to tell Kevin about it. Nat
said she talked to Meredith not Michelle in production, and she said
that she thinks that they can't move anything that is Big Brother's,
but that they could move stuff that belongs to other houseguests. She
doesn't have a solid answer for us, so they'll get back to us
tomorrow.
Skipping
Cams 3 and 4 - Nat saying that someone took her clothes. Russ says
she should take Michele's. She's going to take them and say that they
were Chima's. Kev says "no, because she probably marked them"
Kev and Nat now going through (I believe it's Michele's) drawers in
the SS room Russ said "here she comes" and apparently he was only
saying that he would say "hey Kevin here she comes" if they see her.
So they go back to looking through.
BB: Natalie. Please go to the DR.
All 4 cams are now on Russ munching away on something crunchy in the
Red Room, and Kevin and Nat as they move between Red Room and Splish
Splash.
Nat out of the DR: the answer on the furnishings is no.
Nat and Kev resume their search. "They have to be in here Kevin" says
Nat as Kevin leaves and Nat continues to hunt through Michele's stuff
with Russ's guidance. (Control Room)
1:55 am BBT, back from control room and Michele has now come
downstairs in the SS room. Nat says "I can't find them. She hid that
s**t good" they decide to look in the bathroom
So it was Nat, Kev and Russell. It is strange how Kevin and Russell
is left out of it in the anti Natalie tirades.
As I said she wasn't responsible for most of the things attributed to
her and indeed she shut down the most outrages things that others
sugg4sted either Lydia or Kevin, and yes they are responsible for
what they say. They are all adults (who ironically thought Natalie
was a 18 year old) and everyone talked trash to everyone else,
including doing bodily harm to people. Even someone we both like
Jordan was no angel.
As for Natalie's gameplay as I have pointed out many times, she was
unknowingly following in the footsteps of Russell Hantz on "Survivor"
If you support one you have to support the other. If you condemn one
you have to condemn the other since their gameplays are very similar.
Brian Smith
There's no need to speculate on this. We know that she would have won
because enough of the jury said they would have changed their vote. Jessie
and Lydia would have switched and I believe even Jeff said he might have.
Don't forget Jeff said he would have voted for Michele if she had made it to
the end as he thought she played the best game. There is a reason why so
many people say that Scrappy blew it at the end.
>> However,
>> Michele knew exactly what she was doing and she ensured that Jordan would
>> win the game and not Scrappy. If she was acting she sure didn't know when
>> to
>> stop.
> ---
> As I said, Natalie was too vindictive in the game when she took the
> Michele betraying Chima thing way overboard that much is true. She is
> the type of person that if you have her as a friend she is fiercely
> loyal to you as we saw with Chima, but if you get on the wrong side
> of her she is just as mean spirited to you, as we saw with Michele.
>
> However, acting childish was part of her strategy along with lying
> about her age, and it worked. They underestimated her and as a result
> they kept her around while they went after perceived greater threats
> as she pit them against one another unfortunately just like with
> Russell Hantz in "Survivor" it bread resentment in part because she
> fooled them so badly and manipulated them relatively easily plus a
> bit of hypocrisy thrown in. Just like there was no way Russell
> Hantz would've won S19 no matter how eloquent he was. There was no
> way Natalie would had won BB 11 no matter how eloquent she was.
She didn't have to be eloquent. Michele and many others on the jury just
wanted to her to come clean and stop playing the game given it was over. She
would have won because her game play was better than Jordan's.
>> I'll also add she was a major instigator of many of the things you
>> seem to want to blame solely on Lydia and Kevin. Yes, Lydia and Kevin did
>> come up with some of the crazy ideas but if it wasn't for Scrappy
>> constantly
>> encouraging them I doubt they would have.
I'll skip all your "evidence" that she didn't instigate anything dangerous
because we'll get into a long debate about what "instigate" entails. The
examples you give are cases of where the actual ideas came from Kevin or
Lydia but that doesn't mean Scrappy didn't encourage them to come up with
crazy ideas.
Brian
do...@webtv.net
Hunter made a short post about Gnat...(chuckle, chortle).
Maybe the whole dynamic came about cuz someone in the house once saw her
penis peeking out of her shorts.
It's a JOKE!
do...@webtv.net
Brian gave a cute explanation.
If Jeff didn't vote for Jordan...he would STILL be tied to a tree in the
south...with Jordan's challenged brother poking him...and Jeff would be
squealing to beat the band.
Michelle get's hotter...really wants to be a slut...but needs a touch of
nose shaving.
I know...I've said this all along...but I'm tellin' ya...just a tiny
change of the snout...and she'd be COVERED in semen.
(I'm sure that she is NOW...but let's just say that she'd need MORE
paper towels than she uses now.
:-)
MRS. CLEAN aka MRS. ROPER
Natalie is no Jordo.
MRS. CLEAN aka MRS. ROPER
> <d...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
What are TV only viewers doing peeking into these discussions, then
complaining? Just wondering...
David Hecht
Brian Smith
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Hunter,
I'm glad to see you are over last season :)
To me, the most telling moment was when Jordan was on that log with
Natalie who was trying to psyche her out and Jordan just turned to her
and said "Natalie, you are such an instigator" which shut her up like a
clam.
____________________________
Great example David. I'll give you guys another one which shows (at least to
me) that Scrappy wasn't acting as much as Hunter thinks she was. Of course
this wasn't shown on TV and you'll see why. I can't remember why this topic
came up but Scrappy and Kevin were talking about medical doctors. She
claimed that gays either can't or shouldn't be doctors. At first Kevin (and
I'm sure most of the feed watchers) thought she was joking but she was dead
serious. She clearly started to piss off Kevin with what she was saying. Why
would she pretend to be homophobic considering how much she needed Kevin as
an ally? It doesn't even fit in with her strategy of pretending to be 18.
Brian
Brian Smith
news:967d968a-d5e7-4b50...@z8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
I think some of them just like to complain. In some cases they come in here
Friday evenings wanting to discuss the previous nights eviction and either
don't realize or play dumb that nominations for the new week happen late
Friday afternoon. I wonder if the new TV schedule will change the production
schedule? I'm hoping it doesn't as it would give them an extra day to put
together the POV/POV Ceremony episodes.
Brian
do...@webtv.net
Mrs. C said:
"What are TV only viewers doing peeking into these discussions, then
complaining? Just wondering..."
Yeah...
Evereyone should have a 50" TV that shows the feeds 24/7...ANOTER
computer o follow the net shows...then a regular TV to watch the CBS
show.
Then...a large supply of Depends...and an account with a Chinese
Restaurant...so they will keep delivering food and drink.
And...you can't move from July to September.
:-)
Not kidding.
do...@webtv.net
hawaii Dave said:
"Hunter,
I'm glad to see you are over last season :)
To me, the most telling moment was when Jordan was on that log with
Natalie who was trying to psyche her out and Jordan just turned to her
and said
"Natalie, you are such an instigator" which shut her up like a clam."
Indeed...but having her 'hey nanny nanny' tight as a clam would be
nice...if she liked GUYS.
Women...not so much.
Or...do ladies like other ladies with tight vajayjays?
Hey...I'm a scientist...not some PERV.
Hunter
I don't think Jessie and Lydia would had switched (and please I would
like to see the interview they said this). Jessie was heart broken
that Natalie rejected him, albeit it was kinda rough as Natalie
admits herself saying she was just using him in the game, even if she
gave him fair warning. Lydia and Natalie was never friends really
(but claimed to be disappointed that Natalie told Chima and Jessie
her real age and not her) and I have it hard to believe that you
believe Jeff when he said he might had. Turn against Jordan? Come
on!! Really?!?! Show me the interview.
>
> Don't forget Jeff said he would have voted for Michele if she had made it to
> the end as he thought she played the best game. There is a reason why so
> many people say that Scrappy blew it at the end.
Yes because they got fooled badly and they were embarrassed and
resentful just like the "Survivor 19" and to a lesser extent the
"Survivor 20" jurors with Russell Hantz. Just like Hantz ran circles
around them Natalie ran circles around the housemates and made key
moves from a person they thought was a kid and therefore of no real
threat.
And I still don't believe for a minute he would had voted against
Jordan.
>
> >> However,
> >> Michele knew exactly what she was doing and she ensured that Jordan would
> >> win the game and not Scrappy. If she was acting she sure didn't know when
> >> to
> >> stop.
> > ---
> > As I said, Natalie was too vindictive in the game when she took the
> > Michele betraying Chima thing way overboard that much is true. She is
> > the type of person that if you have her as a friend she is fiercely
> > loyal to you as we saw with Chima, but if you get on the wrong side
> > of her she is just as mean spirited to you, as we saw with Michele.
> >
> > However, acting childish was part of her strategy along with lying
> > about her age, and it worked. They underestimated her and as a result
> > they kept her around while they went after perceived greater threats
> > as she pit them against one another unfortunately just like with
> > Russell Hantz in "Survivor" it bread resentment in part because she
> > fooled them so badly and manipulated them relatively easily plus a
> > bit of hypocrisy thrown in. Just like there was no way Russell
> > Hantz would've won S19 no matter how eloquent he was. There was no
> > way Natalie would had won BB 11 no matter how eloquent she was.
>
> She didn't have to be eloquent. Michele and many others on the jury just
> wanted to her to come clean and stop playing the game given it was over. She
> would have won because her game play was better than Jordan's.
---
Well, at least we agree she had better game play but I don't believe
that they would had changed their vote. Sorry to keep making the
comparison, it sounds like the same excuses that the Survivor 19 jury
made. And again, I don't believe for a SECOND that Jeff would had
changed his vote and vote against his squeeze; are you kidding me?!?!
If he really said that I have a feeling he is bullshitting. Yeah,
vote against Jordan....please!
Also America was lined up against her voting in Chima's stead. That
is one thing she couldn't do, swing America's opinion to her like
Russell Hantz did. Maybe if she had a chance to find some hidden
immunity idols in quick succession she would had LOL!
>
> >> I'll also add she was a major instigator of many of the things you
> >> seem to want to blame solely on Lydia and Kevin. Yes, Lydia and Kevin did
> >> come up with some of the crazy ideas but if it wasn't for Scrappy
> >> constantly
> >> encouraging them I doubt they would have.
>
> I'll skip all your "evidence" that she didn't instigate anything dangerous
> because we'll get into a long debate about what "instigate" entails. The
> examples you give are cases of where the actual ideas came from Kevin or
> Lydia but that doesn't mean Scrappy didn't encourage them to come up with
> crazy ideas.
>
> Brian
---
Again, come up with examples. I showed she discouraged the most
serious ones. You show how she encouraged them and how that was
different from the others in the house. Everyone talked trash against
each other, especially when one annoyed the other side in some way.
Again the reason I am so adamant in my defense of her is that things
got so hysterical that not only she was being singed out for things
that some others were doing-especially Lydia-but also people
seriously believed she was out to do bodily harm to people.
Ridiculous. What's more most of the house with the exception of Kevin
(and those who she told her real age, Chima and Jessie) believed she
was a 18 year old and a girl acting even younger than that. If you
want to say that Natalie was so influential acting like say a 14 year
old it was easy for her to maneuver people. That says more about
*them* than her doesn't it?
To me this is incredible given the craziness of Lydia who actually
went on rampages including dumping out Michele's beers down the sink
amongst other things.
Hunter
contem...@webtv.net says...
> Hunter,
>
> I'm glad to see you are over last season :)
>
>
> To me, the most telling moment was when Jordan was on that log with
> Natalie who was trying to psyche her out and Jordan just turned to her
> and said "Natalie, you are such an instigator" which shut her up like a
> clam.
Sure she was, which was good since it was part of her strategy, If
you have the house in confusion the less focus is on you and the
ability of the other housemates to form alliances against you. Again
as I have compared the two often, Russell Hantz would do similar
things in "Survivor."
But she never suggested harming anyone by sabotaging their food or
medicines. Anybody can show evidence?
do...@webtv.net
Hunter said:
"Jessie was heart broken that Natalie rejected him, albeit it was kinda
rough as Natalie admits herself saying she was just using him in the
game, even if she gave him fair warning."
Sure...we saw Jessie's gay porn pics...so it's not a surprise that he
would have a 'thing' for the manly Gnat.
He was hoping against hope that he'd find a special surprise below her
waist.
Wink wink. :-)
MRS. CLEAN aka MRS. ROPER
Jessie doesn't make my skin crawl, he makes my skin take a hike!
MRS. CLEAN aka MRS. ROPER
> In article <13963-4C23CCA3-...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
> contemplat...@webtv.net says...> Hunter,
Yes, there's ONLY ONE Russell Hantz. Any got an UPDATE on crusty
shorts?