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Ubiquitous
Mar 9, 2020, 7:47:13 AM3/9/20
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Of all the villains to choose from, I have often been asked why the
producers chose the Riddler for the pilot episode. After all, Joker,
Penguin and Catwoman were by far the more famous of the comic book
villains. In fact, Batman Creator Bob Kane, actually complained that they
weren't using the Joker, whom he believed to be Batman's number one foe
more often. The Riddler was indeed a secondary villain at least prior to
the tv series. He had only made a handful of appearances and that was
because of a legal dispute between the creator of the Joker and the comic
book publishers. Riddler was created as substitute Joker until rights
problems were ironed out. Not unlike the second season when they
converted a script intended for the Riddler into the script for the
Puzzler.
To solve the problem of which villain to choose for the pilot episode,
the producers found they had to balance insanity of the entire project
(by network standards at the time) to please the audience and satisify
the conservative network executives. They needed a villain that could be
wild and crazy but at the same time not be so bizzare in appearance that
it would frighten the network brass. Riddler fit the bill, no wild makeup
or costumes. Just a pair of green tights and that wonderful question mark
suit complete with derby hat and gloves. It was Frank Gorshin's manic
behavior that sold the character. I truly believe that Penguin or Joker
would have been too much for the network to handle. Once the series sold,
then there would be no holding back. They needed to sell the show and
Riddler was the way to go-go!
Frank Gorshin once recalled how he became involved with the series. “I
had worked for a guy called Bill Gerringer on Naked City. He told me he
had this project and asked me I’d consider this part. I’d absolutely
loved the Batman comics as a kid and especially The Riddler, who was a
genius; he just got away with pranks all the time. There was nothing he
couldn’t do. To suddenly be asked whether I wanted to bring him to life
was just amazing. I didn’t have to audition or anything. The key had to
be his laugh. Life was such fun for him and I tried all sorts of laughs.
But it had to be an honest laugh. I was really anxious to do this part it
was just bizarre: the outfits, the tights, everything. Adam West had to
be careful not to be ridiculous, but I knew what I had to do and that was
to haven lot of fun. I really looked forward to every new episode. I
would do one show then I wouldn’t do a show for another eight weeks, but
I always looked forward to appearing again.”
“The first overnight ratings back in 1966 were phenomenal, and we kind of
knew then that it was going to be something special. None of us knew or
could anticipate just how long it was going to last. I certainly enjoyed
the success and the exposure but it has been a cross to bear. I was
nominated for an Emmy for playing The Riddler in that first episode, I
didn’t win, but. I was so thrilled just to have been nominated. However,
people identified me as that character for a long while. I had a tough
time being considered again as a straight actor.”
I do recall a couple of incidents that happened during the filming of the
pilot. I got stuck in the automobile once. I was in the Batmobile and
just couldn’t get out; there were no handles, inside or outside. They had
to call a crew member in to get me out. I was stuck there for a long
time. There was also one sequence where I had to slide down a chute and
come out standing up in a crowd of people. Believe me, it took quite a
few takes to get that right.”
As for the rest of the guest cast. most were character people, the type
you would recognize by face and not necessarily by name. In fact, in an
odd twist, Producer William Dozier, who was already narrating the show,
dubbed in the voice for the actor playing the maitre'd at the disco.
I would like to point out that this episode (and several in the future)
have a direct connection to the George Reeves Superman tv series. Actor
Dick Reeves, in one of his last roles (he would pass away not long after)
who had the part of the doorman at the disco, was a regular henchman to
many of the villains on the Superman show. While Michael Fox, who
portrayed, what I believe was supposed to be a recurring character,
Inspector Basch, was the lead villain in what is considered by many to
one of the better Superman episodes, The Perils of Superman (the villains
all wore lead masks, and its the one where Clark Kent is lowered into a
vat of acid, Penguin might have gotten the idea for his acid trap in
Hizzoner the Penguin, from watching Superman reruns) Fox returned but not
as Basch but for a bit part as a radio station manager in the Falseface
episode. Also of note is, series Director of Photography Howard Schwartz
used to be one of the cameramen on the Superman show.
It has been noted that it was amazing that Batman did not notice Molly
beneath the Robin costume, considering her ample proportions. Only that
he noticed the defect in the mask caused by the straws they gave Robin to
breathe through. But has anyone considered the bigger problem with the
mask. Riddler never removed Robin's mask, so when he made the mold,
Robin's mask became part of the face. No way would it look like a real
mask Robin was wearing, Of course, if Riddler removed the mask, the
secret identity premise would have been blown away. The other thing is
Molly wasn't exactly bald, it would have taken a large effort to stuff
her red hair under the mask to keep it from peeking out or distorting
Robin's Head.
Another interesting thing, Riddler had an exact Robin costume made for
Molly except for the belt, which he takes from Robin, to give to her. I
would have thought the belt would have been the easiest thing to
duplicate.
The Giant mammoth which appears to have been made out some type of
plaster was filled with used postage stamps, which flew everywhere when
Batman and Robin broke free of it, but how did they manage to get inside
it without spilling a stamp. Secondly, how could Riddler steal the
mammoth even if he could get it down the hole in the floor. As we saw,
the whole area was loaded with pipes and equipment, there wasn't any room
to move it anywhere.
It was mentioned else where about the off camera explosion of Riddler's
car. It was done for a very good reason, according to Adam West “On the
first day we were working on a corner of the Fox Century City lot, near
the almost completed Century Plaza Hotel. I wasn’t in the shot but I
wanted to be there anyway. I had the costume on except the cape and cowl.
I sat in my chair to watch the special effects crew set fire to the
Riddler’s overturned car. When The Riddler and Molly were safely out of
range, the charges were detonated and the car started to burn. But then
the car exploded, smoke filled the air and rubber shrapnel spun toward
me. I hit the dirt and covered my head with my hands. I later learned
that the air in the tires had superheated faster than expected and had
blown up, causing a pair of giant arc lamps (used to block out unwanted
sunlight in outdoor shots) to explode as well. While still lying on the
floor, I noticed that the burning pieces of tires had blown towards the
hotel and that the 30 stories of burlap that had been hung to cure the
cement walls had caught fire. Soon, the sirens were sounding and crew
members were rushing hoses to wall which separated the movie lot from the
hotel.” So, it would have been impossible to reshoot the scene, as the
car exploded, and it was too dangerous to attempt again even if they
could get another car.
Speaking of cars, Robin did not get his drivers license until the third
season of the series. He is obviously too young to enter the disco, and
yet Batman allowed him to drive the Batmobile into the parking lot by
himself. It may have been a short distance, but he was still too young to
drive.
The pilot was filmed over a period of two weeks during the middle of
October 1965. It was the hopes that the series would sell and be on the
Fall 1966 schedule. The producers planned to shoot the Batman feature
film, in the Spring of 1966, and thus use the larger budget to pay for
the all of the additional props and equipment, the boat, copter and
cycle. for the series without having to tap into their smaller tv budget.
However, ABC's Fall 1965 schedule fell apart very quickly and they
ordered the series to be ready for a January 1966 premiere. Not wanting
to lose the sale of the program, the producers put the film on hold until
after the first season ended, and rushed the series into production in
Mid November. In order to save time, two episodes were filmed
simultaneously at different studios, with the cast racing between the two
to stay on time.
In order to save additional money, props from Irwin Allen's Lost in
Space, also filming at the Fox studios at the time, were used to fill the
Batcave. The force field projector, sits atop a rock just to the left of
the power core and right of the batpoles. It was there for only a couple
of episodes before it was returned to the Robinson family, but the scenes
of Batman and Robin racing the batmobile for the balance of the first
season were from the pilot so the projector appears to vanish and
reappear many times over the episodes. Fox was known to reuse many of its
props, sets and costumes, Even one of the Lost in Space monsters made its
way into Batman's third season (How to Hatch A Dinosaur).
--
Watching Democrats come up with schemes to "catch Trump" is like
watching Wile E. Coyote trying to catch Road Runner.
producers chose the Riddler for the pilot episode. After all, Joker,
Penguin and Catwoman were by far the more famous of the comic book
villains. In fact, Batman Creator Bob Kane, actually complained that they
weren't using the Joker, whom he believed to be Batman's number one foe
more often. The Riddler was indeed a secondary villain at least prior to
the tv series. He had only made a handful of appearances and that was
because of a legal dispute between the creator of the Joker and the comic
book publishers. Riddler was created as substitute Joker until rights
problems were ironed out. Not unlike the second season when they
converted a script intended for the Riddler into the script for the
Puzzler.
To solve the problem of which villain to choose for the pilot episode,
the producers found they had to balance insanity of the entire project
(by network standards at the time) to please the audience and satisify
the conservative network executives. They needed a villain that could be
wild and crazy but at the same time not be so bizzare in appearance that
it would frighten the network brass. Riddler fit the bill, no wild makeup
or costumes. Just a pair of green tights and that wonderful question mark
suit complete with derby hat and gloves. It was Frank Gorshin's manic
behavior that sold the character. I truly believe that Penguin or Joker
would have been too much for the network to handle. Once the series sold,
then there would be no holding back. They needed to sell the show and
Riddler was the way to go-go!
Frank Gorshin once recalled how he became involved with the series. “I
had worked for a guy called Bill Gerringer on Naked City. He told me he
had this project and asked me I’d consider this part. I’d absolutely
loved the Batman comics as a kid and especially The Riddler, who was a
genius; he just got away with pranks all the time. There was nothing he
couldn’t do. To suddenly be asked whether I wanted to bring him to life
was just amazing. I didn’t have to audition or anything. The key had to
be his laugh. Life was such fun for him and I tried all sorts of laughs.
But it had to be an honest laugh. I was really anxious to do this part it
was just bizarre: the outfits, the tights, everything. Adam West had to
be careful not to be ridiculous, but I knew what I had to do and that was
to haven lot of fun. I really looked forward to every new episode. I
would do one show then I wouldn’t do a show for another eight weeks, but
I always looked forward to appearing again.”
“The first overnight ratings back in 1966 were phenomenal, and we kind of
knew then that it was going to be something special. None of us knew or
could anticipate just how long it was going to last. I certainly enjoyed
the success and the exposure but it has been a cross to bear. I was
nominated for an Emmy for playing The Riddler in that first episode, I
didn’t win, but. I was so thrilled just to have been nominated. However,
people identified me as that character for a long while. I had a tough
time being considered again as a straight actor.”
I do recall a couple of incidents that happened during the filming of the
pilot. I got stuck in the automobile once. I was in the Batmobile and
just couldn’t get out; there were no handles, inside or outside. They had
to call a crew member in to get me out. I was stuck there for a long
time. There was also one sequence where I had to slide down a chute and
come out standing up in a crowd of people. Believe me, it took quite a
few takes to get that right.”
As for the rest of the guest cast. most were character people, the type
you would recognize by face and not necessarily by name. In fact, in an
odd twist, Producer William Dozier, who was already narrating the show,
dubbed in the voice for the actor playing the maitre'd at the disco.
I would like to point out that this episode (and several in the future)
have a direct connection to the George Reeves Superman tv series. Actor
Dick Reeves, in one of his last roles (he would pass away not long after)
who had the part of the doorman at the disco, was a regular henchman to
many of the villains on the Superman show. While Michael Fox, who
portrayed, what I believe was supposed to be a recurring character,
Inspector Basch, was the lead villain in what is considered by many to
one of the better Superman episodes, The Perils of Superman (the villains
all wore lead masks, and its the one where Clark Kent is lowered into a
vat of acid, Penguin might have gotten the idea for his acid trap in
Hizzoner the Penguin, from watching Superman reruns) Fox returned but not
as Basch but for a bit part as a radio station manager in the Falseface
episode. Also of note is, series Director of Photography Howard Schwartz
used to be one of the cameramen on the Superman show.
It has been noted that it was amazing that Batman did not notice Molly
beneath the Robin costume, considering her ample proportions. Only that
he noticed the defect in the mask caused by the straws they gave Robin to
breathe through. But has anyone considered the bigger problem with the
mask. Riddler never removed Robin's mask, so when he made the mold,
Robin's mask became part of the face. No way would it look like a real
mask Robin was wearing, Of course, if Riddler removed the mask, the
secret identity premise would have been blown away. The other thing is
Molly wasn't exactly bald, it would have taken a large effort to stuff
her red hair under the mask to keep it from peeking out or distorting
Robin's Head.
Another interesting thing, Riddler had an exact Robin costume made for
Molly except for the belt, which he takes from Robin, to give to her. I
would have thought the belt would have been the easiest thing to
duplicate.
The Giant mammoth which appears to have been made out some type of
plaster was filled with used postage stamps, which flew everywhere when
Batman and Robin broke free of it, but how did they manage to get inside
it without spilling a stamp. Secondly, how could Riddler steal the
mammoth even if he could get it down the hole in the floor. As we saw,
the whole area was loaded with pipes and equipment, there wasn't any room
to move it anywhere.
It was mentioned else where about the off camera explosion of Riddler's
car. It was done for a very good reason, according to Adam West “On the
first day we were working on a corner of the Fox Century City lot, near
the almost completed Century Plaza Hotel. I wasn’t in the shot but I
wanted to be there anyway. I had the costume on except the cape and cowl.
I sat in my chair to watch the special effects crew set fire to the
Riddler’s overturned car. When The Riddler and Molly were safely out of
range, the charges were detonated and the car started to burn. But then
the car exploded, smoke filled the air and rubber shrapnel spun toward
me. I hit the dirt and covered my head with my hands. I later learned
that the air in the tires had superheated faster than expected and had
blown up, causing a pair of giant arc lamps (used to block out unwanted
sunlight in outdoor shots) to explode as well. While still lying on the
floor, I noticed that the burning pieces of tires had blown towards the
hotel and that the 30 stories of burlap that had been hung to cure the
cement walls had caught fire. Soon, the sirens were sounding and crew
members were rushing hoses to wall which separated the movie lot from the
hotel.” So, it would have been impossible to reshoot the scene, as the
car exploded, and it was too dangerous to attempt again even if they
could get another car.
Speaking of cars, Robin did not get his drivers license until the third
season of the series. He is obviously too young to enter the disco, and
yet Batman allowed him to drive the Batmobile into the parking lot by
himself. It may have been a short distance, but he was still too young to
drive.
The pilot was filmed over a period of two weeks during the middle of
October 1965. It was the hopes that the series would sell and be on the
Fall 1966 schedule. The producers planned to shoot the Batman feature
film, in the Spring of 1966, and thus use the larger budget to pay for
the all of the additional props and equipment, the boat, copter and
cycle. for the series without having to tap into their smaller tv budget.
However, ABC's Fall 1965 schedule fell apart very quickly and they
ordered the series to be ready for a January 1966 premiere. Not wanting
to lose the sale of the program, the producers put the film on hold until
after the first season ended, and rushed the series into production in
Mid November. In order to save time, two episodes were filmed
simultaneously at different studios, with the cast racing between the two
to stay on time.
In order to save additional money, props from Irwin Allen's Lost in
Space, also filming at the Fox studios at the time, were used to fill the
Batcave. The force field projector, sits atop a rock just to the left of
the power core and right of the batpoles. It was there for only a couple
of episodes before it was returned to the Robinson family, but the scenes
of Batman and Robin racing the batmobile for the balance of the first
season were from the pilot so the projector appears to vanish and
reappear many times over the episodes. Fox was known to reuse many of its
props, sets and costumes, Even one of the Lost in Space monsters made its
way into Batman's third season (How to Hatch A Dinosaur).
--
Watching Democrats come up with schemes to "catch Trump" is like
watching Wile E. Coyote trying to catch Road Runner.
A Friend
Mar 9, 2020, 8:59:55 AM3/9/20
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In article <usWdnc5ksushsfvD...@giganews.com>, Ubiquitous
At the time they shot the first two Batman episodes, the Riddler had
not appeared in the comics since 1949. Someone in the hierarchy
(perhaps screenwriter Lorenzo Semple Jr.) remembered the Riddler fondly
from their younger days and, I imagine, thought he was still current.
I think everything the Riddler became belongs to Frank Gorshin.
not appeared in the comics since 1949. Someone in the hierarchy
(perhaps screenwriter Lorenzo Semple Jr.) remembered the Riddler fondly
from their younger days and, I imagine, thought he was still current.
I think everything the Riddler became belongs to Frank Gorshin.
anim8rfsk
Mar 9, 2020, 10:28:23 AM3/9/20
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Dozier dumped a handful of comic books on him and said this is what we're
doing. Seems likely that one of those was an old Riddler.
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Ubiquitous
Mar 28, 2022, 12:00:45 PM3/28/22
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anim8rfsk
Mar 28, 2022, 5:03:45 PM3/28/22
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stuck in a convertible, anyway?
outside. They had
> to call a crew member in to get me out. I was stuck there for a long
> time. There was also one sequence where I had to slide down a chute and
> come out standing up in a crowd of people. Believe me, it took quite a
> few takes to get that right.”
>
> As for the rest of the guest cast. most were character people, the type
> you would recognize by face and not necessarily by name. In fact, in an
> odd twist, Producer William Dozier, who was already narrating the show,
> dubbed in the voice for the actor playing the maitre'd at the disco.
>
what’s inside all the pouches?
>
> The Giant mammoth which appears to have been made out some type of
> plaster was filled with used postage stamps, which flew everywhere when
> Batman and Robin broke free of it, but how did they manage to get inside
> it without spilling a stamp. Secondly, how could Riddler steal the
> mammoth even if he could get it down the hole in the floor. As we saw,
> the whole area was loaded with pipes and equipment, there wasn't any room
> to move it anywhere.
>
> It was mentioned else where about the off camera explosion of Riddler's
> car. It was done for a very good reason, according to Adam West “On the
> first day we were working on a corner of the Fox Century City lot, near
> the almost completed Century Plaza Hotel. I wasn’t in the shot but I
> wanted to be there anyway. I had the costume on except the cape and cowl.
> I sat in my chair to watch the special effects crew set fire to the
> Riddler’s overturned car. When The Riddler and Molly were safely out of
> range, the charges were detonated and the car started to burn. But then
> the car exploded, smoke filled the air and rubber shrapnel spun toward
> me. I hit the dirt and covered my head with my hands. I later learned
> that the air in the tires had superheated faster than expected and had
> blown up, causing a pair of giant arc lamps (used to block out unwanted
> sunlight in outdoor shots)
to explode as well. While still lying on the
> floor, I noticed that the burning pieces of tires had blown towards the
> hotel and that the 30 stories of burlap that had been hung to cure the
> cement walls
had caught fire. Soon, the sirens were sounding and crew
> members were rushing hoses to wall which separated the movie lot from the
> hotel.” So, it would have been impossible to reshoot the scene, as the
> car exploded, and it was too dangerous to attempt again even if they
> could get another car.
>
> Speaking of cars, Robin did not get his drivers license until the third
> season of the series. He is obviously too young to enter the disco, and
> yet Batman allowed him to drive the Batmobile into the parking lot by
> himself. It may have been a short distance, but he was still too young to
> drive.
>
> The pilot was filmed over a period of two weeks during the middle of
> October 1965. It was the hopes that the series would sell and be on the
> Fall 1966 schedule. The producers planned to shoot the Batman feature
> film, in the Spring of 1966, and thus use the larger budget to pay for
> the all of the additional props and equipment, the boat, copter and
> cycle. for the series without having to tap into their smaller tv budget.
> However, ABC's Fall 1965 schedule fell apart very quickly and they
> ordered the series to be ready for a January 1966 premiere. Not wanting
> to lose the sale of the program, the producers put the film on hold until
> after the first season ended, and rushed the series into production in
> Mid November. In order to save time, two episodes were filmed
> simultaneously at different studios, with the cast racing between the two
> to stay on time.
without her mask. When assume she’s never been caught before.
>
> In order to save additional money, props from Irwin Allen's Lost in
> Space, also filming at the Fox studios at the time, were used to fill the
> Batcave. The force field projector, sits atop a rock just to the left of
> the power core and right of the batpoles. It was there for only a couple
> of episodes before it was returned to the Robinson family, but the scenes
> of Batman and Robin racing the batmobile for the balance of the first
> season were from the pilot so the projector appears to vanish and
> reappear many times over the episodes. Fox was known to reuse many of its
> props, sets and costumes, Even one of the Lost in Space monsters made its
> way into Batman's third season (How to Hatch A Dinosaur).
>
episode.
> --
> Watching Democrats come up with schemes to "catch Trump" is like
> watching Wile E. Coyote trying to catch Road Runner.
>
>
>
>
>
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
A Friend
Mar 28, 2022, 5:57:59 PM3/28/22
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In article
<889290235.670192861.76...@news.easynews.com>,
comics since around 1947 or 1948. One of the producers remembered
reading a Riddler story way back when, so they used him.
Of course, they had Frank Gorshin to sell it. Gorshin was a very big
deal at the time. He was a highly skilled impressionist who made
regular appearances on Ed Sullivan's variety show. Instead of just
doing imitations of celebrities, he'd do Richard Burton performing a
scene from Camelot, and there'd be costumes and an appropriate set.
There was a great deal of anticipation for the premiere of Batman. I
remember being a little surprised that Batman was being played by the
guy on the Nestle's Quik commercials. I just didn't see him as Batman.
<889290235.670192861.76...@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> >
> > Of all the villains to choose from, I have often been asked why the
> > producers chose the Riddler for the pilot episode. After all, Joker,
> > Penguin and Catwoman were by far the more famous of the comic book
> > villains. In fact, Batman Creator Bob Kane, actually complained that they
> > weren't using the Joker, whom he believed to be Batman's number one foe
> > more often. The Riddler was indeed a secondary villain at least prior to
> > the tv series. He had only made a handful of appearances and that was
> > because of a legal dispute between the creator of the Joker and the comic
> > book publishers. Riddler was created as substitute Joker until rights
> > problems were ironed out. Not unlike the second season when they
> > converted a script intended for the Riddler into the script for the
> > Puzzler.
IIRC the Riddler was a minor character who hadn't appeared in the
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> >
> > Of all the villains to choose from, I have often been asked why the
> > producers chose the Riddler for the pilot episode. After all, Joker,
> > Penguin and Catwoman were by far the more famous of the comic book
> > villains. In fact, Batman Creator Bob Kane, actually complained that they
> > weren't using the Joker, whom he believed to be Batman's number one foe
> > more often. The Riddler was indeed a secondary villain at least prior to
> > the tv series. He had only made a handful of appearances and that was
> > because of a legal dispute between the creator of the Joker and the comic
> > book publishers. Riddler was created as substitute Joker until rights
> > problems were ironed out. Not unlike the second season when they
> > converted a script intended for the Riddler into the script for the
> > Puzzler.
comics since around 1947 or 1948. One of the producers remembered
reading a Riddler story way back when, so they used him.
Of course, they had Frank Gorshin to sell it. Gorshin was a very big
deal at the time. He was a highly skilled impressionist who made
regular appearances on Ed Sullivan's variety show. Instead of just
doing imitations of celebrities, he'd do Richard Burton performing a
scene from Camelot, and there'd be costumes and an appropriate set.
There was a great deal of anticipation for the premiere of Batman. I
remember being a little surprised that Batman was being played by the
guy on the Nestle's Quik commercials. I just didn't see him as Batman.
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