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Dec 26, 1993, 12:17:32 AM12/26/93
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Now everybody knows that I am one of the most outspoken supporters for B5,
but being so I have also developed into one of the most outspoken critics.
What's great about talking about a show like this, even more soe with
Joe here, is that people don't make religious signs at you when you start
crtiticising the work. Joe LISTENS. He knows that everybody is entitled
to their opinion. I've had some conversations with some other people,
(Can I say the name R'Nold around here?) who won't listen to anything but
the good stuff about their particular show.

With that said, I've been meaning to say something that was hyped during
the daws before the pilot aired that left me a bit disappointed. I am
talking about the painting where Sinclair and Delenn were talking about
the Japanese stone garden and how "none say it as clearly as this."
The painting in the background of the inner station was hyped up to be
one of the most spectacular shots of the interior of the station, but
IMHO - it didn't even come close. It *LOOKED* like a painting. I even
strained to see a picture frame around it. I think the same painting was
used when Jeff, Garibaldi, Takishima and that other critter (what is the
name of that critter anyway, Joe?) were in the pod talking about the
ambassador coming aboard the station when Carolyn "called". It just didn't
work, I'm afraid.

I am bringing this up again to hopefully find out whether or not a more
realistic painting or CGI will be used in the series, or if it will be used
at all anymore. If done properly, it really *COULD* be a great effect.
No, I'm not saying I could do it better, but I *KNOW* you could, Joe. ;>

Also in the pod scene, from memory, the only thing I can really remember
besides the characters and the call from Carolyn, were those restraints
they were strapped in. Neat idea, but have the restraints been made
smaller for the series or do they still take up the majority of the
frame?

I spose I can wait until Feb for the answers, then again, maybe not. ;>

Looking forward to your reply, Joe,
-Troy

PS, do the Psi-Corps have a council of elders? Oh, maybe I better
put that in the thread about identification proposal. Would I qualify?
Lessee how the sig looks... hmmm

--
-Troy Rutter, Project Vincent, Iowa State University
PSI-Corps Council of Elders

strac...@genie.geis.com

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Dec 26, 1993, 3:58:48 AM12/26/93
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The matte interior of the B5 garden was done very quickly, in a very
brief period of time, when the model we'd built of the Garden ended up
unsatisfactory. We actually built a model of the thing, which was abou5
(about) 10-12 feet long, big enough to walk through, showing the circular
walls and garden...but it just didn't work for us. So Ron quickly put
together the garden matte used in the pilot.

We've re-done that, and I think it's better. I think it works best
in some of the night scenes, as in the Fresh Air Restaurant you'll see in
"Born to the Purple" and other episodes, but it's better. The only
problem that I still have with it is that we've used a slight haze to the
garden CGI/matte, since looking across about half a kilometer of open air
you'd *get* a haze like that, but for my tastes it kinda flattens it out
a bit, you lose the contrasts and kicks. Others like it a lot. It's
something we're still tweaking for best effect.

The core shuttle, with its component CGI element, has been totally
redesigned.

jms

Somebody

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Dec 26, 1993, 9:56:14 PM12/26/93
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strac...@genie.geis.com writes:

>garden CGI/matte, since looking across about half a kilometer of open air
>you'd *get* a haze like that, but for my tastes it kinda flattens it out
>a bit, you lose the contrasts and kicks. Others like it a lot. It's
>something we're still tweaking for best effect.

You wouldn't necessarily get haze looking thru .5km of air - it depends on
how clean the air is. Of course, with 250k people, many of them preathing
truly weird stuff, the air in the station is probably probly kinda smoggy
and smells bad.

How are the weirder alien atmospheres recycled anyway? Or are aliens that
breathe nasty stuff rare enough that its possible to just ship the
materials in? Do some of the aliens breathe in CO2 and breathe out O2?
That would solve 2 problems at once :)

Are there plants all over the place to help the air quality and make B5 a
nicer place to live? How about the garden's day/night cycle - the air will
change volume from the temperature and it has to go somewhere...
--
J
"Gamera's really neat! Gamera's full of meat! We love Gamera!"
"Joel, do human beings really act like this?" -- Tom Servo

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