Emma Peel & The New Avengers
Bobby Poe
About 20 years ago the CBS Late Movie showed Avengers repeats and then moved
on to New Avengers episodes. I distinctly remember that a two hour episode
with Diana Rigg was announced, where she rejoined Steed and I guess
interacted with Joanna Lumley's character Purdy(?) and Gareth Hunt's
character (the name of whom I've forgotten). Naturally I missed the showing
then and never heard mention of it again, even though the New Avengers was
shown every blue moon or so. Anyone see this episode and have any comments
on it?
Bobby Poe
Dave Matthews
Bobby Poe wrote:
>
> I distinctly remember that a two hour episode
> with Diana Rigg was announced, where she rejoined Steed
Well, sort of. The story in question was the two-part "K is for Kill"
and we see Emma/Di just twice. The ep starts with a flashback to 1965
and Steed telephones Mrs Peel, courtesy of some unused footage of Di
from one of her colour eps (can't remember which one.) The episode then
moves on to 1977 and Steed telephones her a second time - again we see
some old Avengers footage... which looks a bit strange as Emma is still
wearing sixties fashions in what is supposed to be 1977! However for
part of the scene the camera is focused on Steed and we only *hear* Emma
- she tells Steed that she is no longer called Mrs Peel. Now, whether
this was a newly-recorded piece of dialogue from Emma is a good
question. If it is then did they use Di or a "soundalike"? Discuss....
Essentially, though, Di did not actually appear in the episode. Well...
she *did*.... but she *didn't*.... if you know what I mean!
--
Cheers!
Dave Matthews
'New Avengers' site at: http://www.carnfort.u-net.com/NewAvengers/
'Professionals' site at: http://www.carnfort.u-net.com/Professionals/
Adam Richards
>About 20 years ago the CBS Late Movie showed Avengers repeats and then moved
>on to New Avengers episodes. I distinctly remember that a two hour episode
>with Diana Rigg was announced,
Hey, I saw those trailers too, in Philly on Channel 10!!!! I think I
was about 12 years old at the time. They really made me sit up and
take notice. Of course, I watched the advertised episode very eagerly,
only to discover:
>where she rejoined Steed
She didn't. She was seen in two brief clips from the old show,
speaking to Steed on a telephone.
>and I guess
>interacted with Joanna Lumley's character Purdy(?)
Again, no such luck. Although I think after Steed finishes the call
there's a brief scene where Purdey talks with Steed about Mrs. Peel -
I can remember that hearing Purdey say "Mrs. Peel" was oddly thrilling
at the time...!
>and Gareth Hunt's
>character (the name of whom I've forgotten).
Gambit.
>Naturally I missed the showing
>then and never heard mention of it again, even though the New Avengers was
>shown every blue moon or so. Anyone see this episode and have any comments
>on it?
It was a New Avengers two-parter called "K is For Kill". It starts OK,
but becomes pretty boring as it gets to the junction between the two
spisodes. The clips of Mrs. Peel are taken from two different episodes
(which ones, I am unsure) and they add precious little to the plot,
but it was at least nice to see her.
Thinking very cynically about it after all these years, one can't help
but draw the conclusion that it was a very average New Avengers story
padded out into two episodes, and the producers then looked at it and
thought, "Hmmmm - needs a giimick!", so they added the clips of Mrs.
Peel to heighten nostalgia-value.
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This has to be the querkiest NA episode ever. Here are Steed, Purdey
and Gambit investigating soldiers from past that all become pensioners
instantly the moment they are killed, and Mrs Peel the same appearance
she had in 1965 twenty or so years later (and the same decor).
I think we should be told
>About 20 years ago the CBS Late Movie showed Avengers repeats and then moved
>on to New Avengers episodes. I distinctly remember that a two hour episode
>with Diana Rigg was announced, where she rejoined Steed and I guess
>interacted with Joanna Lumley's character Purdy(?) and Gareth Hunt's
>character (the name of whom I've forgotten). Naturally I missed the showing
>then and never heard mention of it again, even though the New Avengers was
>shown every blue moon or so. Anyone see this episode and have any comments
>on it?
>Bobby Poe
Piechart
>I can remember that hearing Purdey say "Mrs. Peel" was oddly thrilling
>at the time...!
Even now!
Ad...@roblang.demon.co.uk (Adam Richards) wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:48:07 -0400, "Bobby Poe"
><poe...@popmusicrecords.com> wrote:
>>About 20 years ago the CBS Late Movie showed Avengers repeats and then moved
>>on to New Avengers episodes. I distinctly remember that a two hour episode
>>with Diana Rigg was announced,
>Hey, I saw those trailers too, in Philly on Channel 10!!!! I think I
>was about 12 years old at the time. They really made me sit up and
>take notice. Of course, I watched the advertised episode very eagerly,
>only to discover:
>>where she rejoined Steed
>She didn't. She was seen in two brief clips from the old show,
>speaking to Steed on a telephone.
>>and I guess
>>interacted with Joanna Lumley's character Purdy(?)
>Again, no such luck. Although I think after Steed finishes the call
>there's a brief scene where Purdey talks with Steed about Mrs. Peel -
>I can remember that hearing Purdey say "Mrs. Peel" was oddly thrilling
>at the time...!
>>and Gareth Hunt's
>>character (the name of whom I've forgotten).
>Gambit.
>>Naturally I missed the showing
>>then and never heard mention of it again, even though the New Avengers was
>>shown every blue moon or so. Anyone see this episode and have any comments
>>on it?
>It was a New Avengers two-parter called "K is For Kill". It starts OK,
Nova191919
>>About 20 years ago the CBS Late Movie showed Avengers repeats
Yes, indeed! I was 11, and was promptly ruined for everyday life by The
Avengers!
The other show they showed was "Return of the Saint," which may or may not have
been a good show (hey, I was 11!) But it had a great theme song; and, of
course, Ian Ogilvie, who I found IMPOSSIBLY handsome. =)
Which brings me to my point:
Does anyone know if ANY episodes of ROTS are available?
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Nova191919
Dave Matthews
Nova191919 wrote:
>
> The other show they showed was "Return of the Saint," which may or may not have
> been a good show (hey, I was 11!) But it had a great theme song; and, of
> course, Ian Ogilvie, who I found IMPOSSIBLY handsome. =)
>
> Which brings me to my point:
> Does anyone know if ANY episodes of ROTS are available?
ITC released a few episodes of this several years ago. I'm pretty sure
they are no longer available. But.... I'm sure you'll struggle to find
anyone who will defend the series. From what I remember of it, the
stoylines showed that ITC was still stuck in the sixties, although they
did at least use genuine locations much of the time. Admittedly Ian
Ogilvy was a far better actor than Roger "Eyebrows" Moore but that's
really all ROTS had going for it!
Chris Bastian
It was a heavily hyped, cheap PR stunt. Diana Rigg had one scene where she
spoke for a few minutes with Patrick MacNee by phone.
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In article <6muuk5$p...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, "Bobby Poe"
<poe...@popmusicrecords.com> wrote:
>About 20 years ago the CBS Late Movie showed Avengers repeats and then moved
>on to New Avengers episodes. I distinctly remember that a two hour episode
>with Diana Rigg was announced, where she rejoined Steed and I guess
>interacted with Joanna Lumley's character Purdy(?) and Gareth Hunt's
>character (the name of whom I've forgotten). Naturally I missed the showing
>then and never heard mention of it again, even though the New Avengers was
>shown every blue moon or so. Anyone see this episode and have any comments
>on it?
>
>Bobby Poe
Marlene A Koenig
Diana was never in the New Avengers The episode was K is for Kill -
part 1 The Tiger - the episode included shots from The Winged
Avenger and from Venus with Love - both with Dame Diana.
But Diana herself never appears -although Steed is seen talking to
Mrs. Peel on the phone
e/xit
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Marlene A Koenig
Dave -- it was not Diana's voice in the New Avengers -
but a soundalike
The Jester
> About 20 years ago the CBS Late Movie showed Avengers repeats and then
moved
> on to New Avengers episodes. I distinctly remember that a two hour
episode
> with Diana Rigg was announced, where she rejoined Steed and I guess
> interacted with Joanna Lumley's character Purdy(?) and Gareth Hunt's
> character (the name of whom I've forgotten). Naturally I missed the
showing
> then and never heard mention of it again, even though the New Avengers
was
> shown every blue moon or so. Anyone see this episode and have any
comments
> on it?
I remember seeing that in 1976, or 1977... It was advertised that she would
be on there, but if I remember correctly, it amounted to little more than a
cameo.
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Sam
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The Jester
> "Return Of The Saint" reruns are currently being shown on the British
cable
> channel Granada Plus. If you go to the website
> http://www.gsb.co.uk/plus/action/returnsaint/setframe-home.html you can
> download photos from the series, plus the ROTS logo from the opening
> credits.
>
Geez... I wish we had that channel here in the U.S.... It sounds better
than a lot of the channels we have here. :-)
> Also, if you go to the Saint Club website at http://www.saint.org/ you
can
> find all sorts of info about Ian Ogilvy, including the two novels he's
> written in the last few years (both of which sound interesting). Ogilvy
now
> lives in California and has made a lot of American tv guest appearances
in
> the last few years, including "Caroline In The City," "Walker: Texas
> Ranger," and a hilarious guest appearance on "Murphy Brown" as a Bill
> Gates-like tycoon who proposes marriage to Murphy on the air so she'll
stop
> asking him tough questions!
He also had a regular part on the NBC series "Malibu Shores", which was a
Beverly Hills 90210 clone that didn't last much more than a couple of
months.
:-)
> I was fourteen in 1979-80 when CBS ran their Friday double feature of
"The
> Avengers" and "Return Of The Saint." These two shows had a huge impact on
> me; I suppose it's an age when a boy needs his heroes, and Ogilvy and
Macnee
> were mine. I couldn't imagine two cooler guys. (Diana Rigg had a big
impact
>
I was really into those shows around that time, too. :-)
> I won't get into the age-old argument about who the best Saint was; I
think
> Roger Moore did a good job as the Saint too. (George Sanders was the
worst!)
> However, Ogilvy was the first actor I saw in the part, so whenever I read
a
> Saint book in the years that followed (and I ended up reading nearly all
of
> them), he was the person I pictured.
>
Ogilvy was the first person I saw in that role, too. So, to me, Roger
Moore had to live up to him and didn't quite measure up, although I do like
Roger Moore as an actor and he's probably my favorite James Bond. :-)
> A year after CBS ran ROTS, they ran the Roger Moore series for a while.
What
> surprised me most about the Moore series was how cheap it was compared to
> the Ogilvy series (even though they had the same producer). All the
Ogilvy
> episodes were filmed on location, many in France and Italy; Moore's
episodes
> were nearly all studio-bound. (A typical Moore episode would begin with
> stock footage of Buenos Aires, the onscreen title "Buenos Aires," and
then a
> cut to an interior shot of Moore... presumably in B.A. but really at the
> Elstree studio!)
I'm sure they probably had a much bigger budget the second time. Just like
Star Trek: The Next Generation was of much better quality than the original
series. :-)
>
> I did download the ROTS theme song from some newsgroup or website; if I
can
> find the URL I'll let you know. But I just wanted to let you know there's
> someone else who loved "Return Of The Saint" as much as you did.
>
Me too! [g]
Tim Dunleavy
Nova191919 wrote in message
<199806261755...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>The other show they showed was "Return of the Saint," which may or may not
have
>been a good show (hey, I was 11!) But it had a great theme song; and, of
>course, Ian Ogilvie, who I found IMPOSSIBLY handsome. =)
>Which brings me to my point:
>Does anyone know if ANY episodes of ROTS are available?
"Return Of The Saint" reruns are currently being shown on the British cable
channel Granada Plus. If you go to the website
http://www.gsb.co.uk/plus/action/returnsaint/setframe-home.html you can
download photos from the series, plus the ROTS logo from the opening
credits.
Also, if you go to the Saint Club website at http://www.saint.org/ you can
find all sorts of info about Ian Ogilvy, including the two novels he's
written in the last few years (both of which sound interesting). Ogilvy now
lives in California and has made a lot of American tv guest appearances in
the last few years, including "Caroline In The City," "Walker: Texas
Ranger," and a hilarious guest appearance on "Murphy Brown" as a Bill
Gates-like tycoon who proposes marriage to Murphy on the air so she'll stop
asking him tough questions!
I was fourteen in 1979-80 when CBS ran their Friday double feature of "The
Avengers" and "Return Of The Saint." These two shows had a huge impact on
me; I suppose it's an age when a boy needs his heroes, and Ogilvy and Macnee
were mine. I couldn't imagine two cooler guys. (Diana Rigg had a big impact
on me too, but for a different reason... let's just say I'm glad that Diana
Rigg and puberty both hit me at the same time!)
I won't get into the age-old argument about who the best Saint was; I think
Roger Moore did a good job as the Saint too. (George Sanders was the worst!)
However, Ogilvy was the first actor I saw in the part, so whenever I read a
Saint book in the years that followed (and I ended up reading nearly all of
them), he was the person I pictured.
A year after CBS ran ROTS, they ran the Roger Moore series for a while. What
surprised me most about the Moore series was how cheap it was compared to
the Ogilvy series (even though they had the same producer). All the Ogilvy
episodes were filmed on location, many in France and Italy; Moore's episodes
were nearly all studio-bound. (A typical Moore episode would begin with
stock footage of Buenos Aires, the onscreen title "Buenos Aires," and then a
cut to an interior shot of Moore... presumably in B.A. but really at the
Elstree studio!)
I did download the ROTS theme song from some newsgroup or website; if I can
find the URL I'll let you know. But I just wanted to let you know there's
someone else who loved "Return Of The Saint" as much as you did.
-Tim
Nova191919
Thanks for the information! =D
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Nova191919
on_the_edge
Piechart wrote:
>>I can remember that hearing Purdey say "Mrs. Peel" was oddly thrilling
>>at the time...!
>Even now!
I believe scriptwriters deliberately wrote in catfights, because of
their popularity with the audience. Hence the prolonged one in the
marriage bureau episode.
>Ad...@roblang.demon.co.uk (Adam Richards) wrote:
>>On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:48:07 -0400, "Bobby Poe"
>><poe...@popmusicrecords.com> wrote:
>>>About 20 years ago the CBS Late Movie showed Avengers repeats and then moved
>>>on to New Avengers episodes. I distinctly remember that a two hour episode
>>>with Diana Rigg was announced,
>>Hey, I saw those trailers too, in Philly on Channel 10!!!! I think I
>>was about 12 years old at the time. They really made me sit up and
>>take notice. Of course, I watched the advertised episode very eagerly,
>>only to discover:
>>>where she rejoined Steed
>>She didn't. She was seen in two brief clips from the old show,
>>speaking to Steed on a telephone.
>>>and I guess
>>>interacted with Joanna Lumley's character Purdy(?)
>>Again, no such luck. Although I think after Steed finishes the call
>>there's a brief scene where Purdey talks with Steed about Mrs. Peel -
>>I can remember that hearing Purdey say "Mrs. Peel" was oddly thrilling
>>at the time...!
>>>and Gareth Hunt's
>>>character (the name of whom I've forgotten).
>>Gambit.
>>>Naturally I missed the showing
>>>then and never heard mention of it again, even though the New Avengers was
>>>shown every blue moon or so. Anyone see this episode and have any comments
>>>on it?
>>It was a New Avengers two-parter called "K is For Kill". It starts OK,
Nova191919
But I just wanted to let you know there's
>> someone else who loved "Return Of The Saint" as much as you did
Hey! I'm starting all sorts of bizarre fan clubs!
=)
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Nova191919
Dave Matthews
Marlene A Koenig wrote:
>
> Dave -- it was not Diana's voice in the New Avengers -
> but a soundalike
Thanks for that, Marlene. Yes, I suspected they must have used a
"soundalike". I wonder who it was?
DM Who
I have The New Avengers on tape,including that 2 part story. Unfortunately Emma
didn't interact with Steed,Purdy,and Gambit. They used some old outtakes of
Diana talking on the phone and dubbed her voice on Steeds end. Basically the
story revolved arounbd the Russians placing(literal)sleeper agents in
hibernation to be reawakened when a signal was sent from a satellite. The
satellite malfunctioned in the 1960's and then again in the mid-70's,prompting
Steed to call Mrs Peel to ask her what she remembered of the case(one that was
never filmed). Still it was a very good story.
Robert John Guttke
Are you sure it was out takes? I could have sworn it really was Diana
Rigg- wearing a bad Mrs. Peel wig. It really was a cheat, since it
was advertised as featuring her. But......
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Jon Pollard
<Gut...@juno.com> writes
two Rigg stories, From Venus With Love and The Winged Avenger, which
explains why in the more than ten years since we last saw her she hasn't
got a day older.
--
Jon Pollard
"It has been our secret, now it is yours. It must be kept."