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Christine Marie

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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(Sorry, can't remember who asked this, or in what thread...)

Found this on the web, (http://www.frick.org/html/pntg59f.htm--site for the
Frick Collection) along with some portraits of her. Since they are usually
very discreet in these museum type blurbs, I suspect she was a busy girl...

"Emma Hart (1765-1815) was a woman of great beauty and charm who rose from
humble origins to international fame. Charles Greville, whose mistress she
was and who commissioned this portrait, educated her in music and
literature, and Greville's uncle, Sir William Hamilton, British ambassador
to Naples, brought her to Italy, where they were married. There she
entertained company with her "attitudes" - a kind of Romantic aesthetic
posturing achieved with the aid of shawls and classical draperies. Emma
attracted the attention of Lord Horatio Nelson, with whom she had a
notorious romantic liaison until his death at the Battle of Trafalgar.
Although she inherited money from both Hamilton and Nelson, her extravagance
led her into debt, and she died in poverty. This portrait was the first of
more than twenty that Romney painted of his "divine lady," many in the guise
of characters from history, mythology, and literature."


Chris

The Demented Furby

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hmmm I Still don't get the comment Wes made... "you'll be locked up faster than lady
hamilton's virtues" ... ? huh? someone xplain?

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and then is heard of no more.
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
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Christine Marie

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The Demented Furby wrote

> hmmm I Still don't get the comment Wes made... "you'll be locked up
faster than lady
> hamilton's virtues" ... ? huh? someone xplain?

Not finding much, but she did end up in the slammer (debtor's prison) at the
end of her life, once she'd run through all her money.

Anyone else?

Chris


The Man with No Serotonin

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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The Demented Furby wrote:
>
> hmmm I Still don't get the comment Wes made... "you'll be locked up faster than lady
> hamilton's virtues" ... ? huh? someone xplain?

Was she a fast woman?

John Hogan
Biddle Law Library/AFSCME Local 590

Christine Marie

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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The Man with No Serotonin wrote:
> The Demented Furby wrote:
> >
> > hmmm I Still don't get the comment Wes made... "you'll be locked up
faster than lady
> > hamilton's virtues" ... ? huh? someone xplain?
>
> Was she a fast woman?
>

By the standards of the time, definitely. Maybe even by the standards of
our time--hard to tell, since they clean up the bios so much. Not getting
the reference to "locked up," though, unless it refers to her being in
debtor's prison later.

There is a movie made in 1941 called "That Hamilton Woman" with Vivien Leigh
as Lady Hamilton. Maybe there's a reference in there somewhere?

Chris

The Man with No Serotonin

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Christine Marie wrote:
>
> The Man with No Serotonin wrote:
> > The Demented Furby wrote:
> > >
> > > hmmm I Still don't get the comment Wes made... "you'll be locked up
> faster than lady
> > > hamilton's virtues" ... ? huh? someone xplain?
> >
> > Was she a fast woman?
> >
>
> By the standards of the time, definitely. Maybe even by the standards of
> our time--hard to tell, since they clean up the bios so much. Not getting
> the reference to "locked up," though, unless it refers to her being in
> debtor's prison later.

I wasn't so much asking the question as offering that expression as an
explanation for Wesley's turn of phrase ("faster than Lady Hamilton's
virtue"). I'm sure she was just high-spirited.

Christine Marie

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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Oh. Gotcha. Duh. <smacks forhead with heel of hand> I guess I was
thinking the locked up part had something to do with the metaphor, but I
think you're right.

Oh well. I love doing that kind of research, anyway.

Chris


William George Ferguson

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>> The Demented Furby wrote:
>> > hmmm I Still don't get the comment Wes made... "you'll be locked up
>faster than lady
>> > hamilton's virtues" ... ? huh? someone xplain?

>The Man with No Serotonin wrote:
>> Was she a fast woman?
>>

"Christine Marie" <chrismm...@aracnet.com> wrote:
>By the standards of the time, definitely. Maybe even by the standards of
>our time--hard to tell, since they clean up the bios so much. Not getting
>the reference to "locked up," though, unless it refers to her being in
>debtor's prison later.

The phrase 'locked up like Lady Hamilton's virtue' is an ironic
reference to the fact that about the only way to assure Lady
Hamilton's virtue would involve locks and such.


The Demented Furby

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That's what I originally got from Wes's statement... but the lore of Lady Hamilton
which was the very original post didn't make it seem that way... maybe she became that
guy's mistress at a very early age? maybe?

--
__________________________________________________________________________________________
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Life is but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage
and then is heard of no more.
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
-Ezzy

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> The Demented Furby wrote:
> >
> > hmmm I Still don't get the comment Wes made... "you'll be locked up faster than
lady
> > hamilton's virtues" ... ? huh? someone xplain?
>

> Was she a fast woman?
>

The Demented Furby

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oh so she was like a slutty type? . ) hehehe WOOHOO err ; ) sorry, that was just not
mentioned in the original post of Lady Hamilton

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__________________________________________________________________________________________
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Life is but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage
and then is heard of no more.
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
-Ezzy

"William George Ferguson" <william.geo...@domail.maricopa.edu> wrote in message
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> >> The Demented Furby wrote:
> >> > hmmm I Still don't get the comment Wes made... "you'll be locked up
> >faster than lady
> >> > hamilton's virtues" ... ? huh? someone xplain?
>

> >The Man with No Serotonin wrote:
> >> Was she a fast woman?
> >>

yasm...@my-deja.com

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William George Ferguson wrote:

> >> The Demented Furby wrote:
> >> > hmmm I Still don't get the comment Wes made... "you'll be locked up
> >faster than lady
> >> > hamilton's virtues" ... ? huh? someone xplain?
>
> >The Man with No Serotonin wrote:
> >> Was she a fast woman?
> >>
> "Christine Marie" <chrismm...@aracnet.com> wrote:
> >By the standards of the time, definitely. Maybe even by the standards of
> >our time--hard to tell, since they clean up the bios so much. Not getting
> >the reference to "locked up," though, unless it refers to her being in
> >debtor's prison later.
>
> The phrase 'locked up like Lady Hamilton's virtue' is an ironic
> reference to the fact that about the only way to assure Lady
> Hamilton's virtue would involve locks and such.

Brings to mind Marian in _Robin Hood: Men in Tights_ !

Jennifer

Frances N.

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Feb 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/2/00
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Doesn't the quote have something to do with the movie "That Hamilton Woman" starring Vivien
Leigh?

The Demented Furby wrote:

> oh so she was like a slutty type? . ) hehehe WOOHOO err ; ) sorry, that was just not
> mentioned in the original post of Lady Hamilton
>
> --
> __________________________________________________________________________________________
> ____
>
> Life is but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage
> and then is heard of no more.
> It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
> -Ezzy
>
> "William George Ferguson" <william.geo...@domail.maricopa.edu> wrote in message
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Riddler

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yasm...@my-deja.com wrote:

> William George Ferguson wrote:
>
> > >> The Demented Furby wrote:
> > >> > hmmm I Still don't get the comment Wes made... "you'll be locked up
> > >faster than lady
> > >> > hamilton's virtues" ... ? huh? someone xplain?
> >
> > >The Man with No Serotonin wrote:
> > >> Was she a fast woman?
> > >>
> > "Christine Marie" <chrismm...@aracnet.com> wrote:
> > >By the standards of the time, definitely. Maybe even by the standards of
> > >our time--hard to tell, since they clean up the bios so much. Not getting
> > >the reference to "locked up," though, unless it refers to her being in
> > >debtor's prison later.
> >
> > The phrase 'locked up like Lady Hamilton's virtue' is an ironic
> > reference to the fact that about the only way to assure Lady
> > Hamilton's virtue would involve locks and such.
>

> Brings to mind Marian in _Robin Hood: Men in Tights_ !

Call the royal locksmith!


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