OT. Georgia justice
Salad
the out and out ignorance that exists in the state.
There's a recent story of a man, black of course, that had a girlfriend
in the 80's. She became pregnant and told the boyfriend it was his kid.
They were never married and they broke up the relationship shortly
after the boy was born. For years the man paid child support.
In 2000 a DNA test was done and it was proven the child was not his.
But he still was told to pay child support. He lost his job and was
homeless. He continued paying child support from his unemployment
checks but finally could pay no more.
So what did the court do? They knew it was not his child. They threw
him into jail for a year for being a deadbeat dad. After a second DNA
test was done proving the child was not his the man was released from jail.
Talk about blind justice!
Or is it southern Justice?
Or typical Georgian justice?
It's one state I consider a fly-over state. Not worth going thru.
Sanna
> There's a recent story of a man, black of course, that had a girlfriend
> in the 80's. She became pregnant and told the boyfriend it was his kid.
A girlfriend in the 80's got pregnant? Damn, that's old. She makes the
dead 66 year old mother of twins look like a spring chicken.
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Why "black of course"???
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Salad
non-support of a child that wasn't his.
Lawyer: This is not his child.
GA Court: We know. BFD. His choice; pay support for somebody else's
baby...or go to jail.
Thanatos
Salad <o...@vinegar.com> wrote:
> There's a reason why I would never live in Georgia. My perception of
> the out and out ignorance that exists in the state.
>
> There's a recent story of a man, black of course, that had a girlfriend
> in the 80's. She became pregnant and told the boyfriend it was his kid.
> They were never married and they broke up the relationship shortly
> after the boy was born. For years the man paid child support.
>
> In 2000 a DNA test was done and it was proven the child was not his.
> But he still was told to pay child support. He lost his job and was
> homeless. He continued paying child support from his unemployment
> checks but finally could pay no more.
>
> So what did the court do? They knew it was not his child. They threw
> him into jail for a year for being a deadbeat dad. After a second DNA
> test was done proving the child was not his the man was released from jail.
>
> Talk about blind justice!
>
> Or is it southern Justice?
>
> Or typical Georgian justice?
Stories like this can be found in most states of the union because of
what are known as "putative paternity" laws. Yes, even in liberal havens
of diversity and tolerance and intelligentsia like California and New
York.
Tin@
> There's a reason why I would never live in Georgia. My perception of
> the out and out ignorance that exists in the state.
>
> There's a recent story of a man, black of course, that had a girlfriend
> in the 80's. She became pregnant and told the boyfriend it was his kid.
> They were never married and they broke up the relationship shortly
> after the boy was born. For years the man paid child support.
It'd the whole, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. He put himself
up as the father, acted as the father, so he was treated as the
father. Mind you, I'm not discussing if it's right or wrong, just how
the law sees things.
James Robinson
>
> I would have been stunned if it were a white man in jail for a year
> for non-support of a child that wasn't his.
>
> Lawyer: This is not his child.
> GA Court: We know. BFD. His choice; pay support for somebody else's
> baby...or go to jail.
The laws just haven't caught up with DNA testing. As a basic principle, it
seems that the names of the parents on the birth certificate are legally
assumed to be a kid's parents, and thereby subject to child support.
The Michael Jackson kids will be a real test of the system, if it goes to
court. Jackson and his wife at the time are considered the legal parents,
even though they might not have either of the parents' genes. Thus his
wife would have first claim on the kids in court, even if she was just a
surrogate.
Suzy
I'm sorry you have such a huge misconception about Georgia. You were not
stunned that it was a black man? I'm stunned that anyone of any color had
to go through this. Sadly, it is a confusion of laws, old and new.
Certainly a case to point out to not go sleeping around without protection.
I hope you rethink your position and visit Georgia someday. We would
welcome you.
Shel-hed
>Stories like this can be found in most states of the union
Yup, I've heard stories from all over the States. I think it's the same up here
in Kanukistan.
Salad
> Salad <o...@vinegar.com> wrote:
>
>>I would have been stunned if it were a white man in jail for a year
>>for non-support of a child that wasn't his.
>>
>>Lawyer: This is not his child.
>>GA Court: We know. BFD. His choice; pay support for somebody else's
>>baby...or go to jail.
>
>
> The laws just haven't caught up with DNA testing. As a basic principle, it
> seems that the names of the parents on the birth certificate are legally
> assumed to be a kid's parents, and thereby subject to child support.
He kept on paying after the child's DNA showed he was not his child.
The jailtime came afterwards, when he lost his job and was homeless.
Maybe some folks in this group would keep on paying, I wouldn't.
> The Michael Jackson kids will be a real test of the system, if it goes to
> court. Jackson and his wife at the time are considered the legal parents,
> even though they might not have either of the parents' genes. Thus his
> wife would have first claim on the kids in court, even if she was just a
> surrogate.
I doubt anyone will be going to jail in regards to MJs kids.
Salad
No. The justice was so...fifties.
I'm stunned that anyone of any color had
> to go through this. Sadly, it is a confusion of laws, old and new.
> Certainly a case to point out to not go sleeping around without protection.
Why not forbid man and women relationships?
James Robinson
> James Robinson wrote:
>
>> Salad <o...@vinegar.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I would have been stunned if it were a white man in jail for a year
>>>for non-support of a child that wasn't his.
>>>
>>>Lawyer: This is not his child.
>>>GA Court: We know. BFD. His choice; pay support for somebody
>>>else's baby...or go to jail.
>>
>>
>> The laws just haven't caught up with DNA testing. As a basic
>> principle, it seems that the names of the parents on the birth
>> certificate are legally assumed to be a kid's parents, and thereby
>> subject to child support.
>
> He kept on paying after the child's DNA showed he was not his child.
> The jailtime came afterwards, when he lost his job and was homeless.
> Maybe some folks in this group would keep on paying, I wouldn't.
He was considered the legal parent under Georgia law, since his name was
on the birth certificate. The state dropped the requirement for repaying
the child support when the DNA tests came through, and he stopped paying.
However, they still required him to pay the amount in arrears up to that
point, since he had signed some document saying he would pay prior to
knowing the DNA results. It was the old payments that were in
contention, not continuing payments.
>> The Michael Jackson kids will be a real test of the system, if it
>> goes to court. Jackson and his wife at the time are considered the
>> legal parents, even though they might not have either of the parents'
>> genes. Thus his wife would have first claim on the kids in court,
>> even if she was just a surrogate.
>
> I doubt anyone will be going to jail in regards to MJs kids.
Not likely, however, the question of specifically who is financially
responsible and who gets custody could get messy, if they choose to do
battle in court.
Suzy
Same could have happened to anyone of any color. I'm wondering why this
man's lawyers didn't act sooner to get him released.
> I'm stunned that anyone of any color had
>> to go through this. Sadly, it is a confusion of laws, old and new.
>> Certainly a case to point out to not go sleeping around without
>> protection.
>
> Why not forbid man and women relationships?
Reckless relationships, wish I could. In this case, not only was it a mess,
but I'm wondering if this man had a relationship with the child? That would
truly be the tragedy here.
>> I hope you rethink your position and visit Georgia someday. We would
>> welcome you.
>>
As someone else said, this sort of thing can and does happen anywhere. The
fact that it was news should mean it was a rare occurence, we hope.