I can't believe Candice won

[Tin@]

stupid. This show is done.

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:07:44 PM UTC-7, Tin@ wrote:
> stupid. This show is done.

It is. The only question now is whether they even attempt a 13th season, or how far they go down that road before they junk the whole thing...

VFTW saying goodbye tonight should tell you a lot about what they think is about to happen -- to both AI and X-F US...

Mike

[Bigolhomo]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:33:17 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:07:44 PM UTC-7, Tin@ wrote:
>> stupid. This show is done.
>
>It is. The only question now is whether they even attempt a 13th season, or how far they go down that road before they junk the whole thing...

So who should have won? A few weeks ago, when Angie seemed to be the
frontrunner you were complaining about the show rigging it so she
would win. Then she got the boot and the two singers, who from what I
could tell from reading the group, were largely considered to be the
best two singers of the season, ended up being the top two, and you're
still not happy. So tell us, who would have been the deserving winner
and why?

>
>VFTW saying goodbye tonight should tell you a lot about what they think is about to happen -- to both AI and X-F US...

What it tells me is that they're owning up to their compete and utter
irrelevancy. Their one "victory" this season was at the top 4 voting,
and even then the contestant eliminated was their third choice for
elimination. Who among us besides you cares what they think is about
to happen? It's like caring what Kim Kardashian thinks about
Benghazi.

[Cheri]

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LOL at the KK thing. :-)

Cheri

[Micki]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:07:44 -0700 (PDT), "Tin@"
<tinas...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>stupid. This show is done.

Not stupid at all. she was the best singer in the competition with
Kree being second best.

Micki

[SLGreg]

I don't think I could have taken another country girl. Candice was my girl
since about Top 7.
--
greg

[Tim Hall]

She'd probably say, "Ben Ghazi... wait, what team does he play for?"

--
X Factor Season 2 Certainty Contest Champion

"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is
a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." -- Albert
Einstein

[Feffeleskin]

You actually believe that Kree is more of a talent than Candice? You must be
kidding.



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[Cheri]

"Tim Hall" <ihat...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 5/16/2013 11:00 PM, Bigolhomo wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:33:17 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:07:44 PM UTC-7, Tin@ wrote:
>>>> stupid. This show is done.
>>>
>>> It is. The only question now is whether they even attempt a 13th
>>> season, or how far they go down that road before they junk the whole
>>> thing...
>>
>> So who should have won? A few weeks ago, when Angie seemed to be the
>> frontrunner you were complaining about the show rigging it so she
>> would win. Then she got the boot and the two singers, who from what I
>> could tell from reading the group, were largely considered to be the
>> best two singers of the season, ended up being the top two, and you're
>> still not happy. So tell us, who would have been the deserving winner
>> and why?
>>
>>>
>>> VFTW saying goodbye tonight should tell you a lot about what they think
>>> is about to happen -- to both AI and X-F US...
>>
>> What it tells me is that they're owning up to their compete and utter
>> irrelevancy. Their one "victory" this season was at the top 4 voting,
>> and even then the contestant eliminated was their third choice for
>> elimination. Who among us besides you cares what they think is about
>> to happen? It's like caring what Kim Kardashian thinks about
>> Benghazi.
>>
>
> She'd probably say, "Ben Ghazi... wait, what team does he play for?"

Except, Mike is not a she.

Cheri

[Peahen]

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But KK is....

[Cheri]

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True, I missed that. Thanks. :-)

Cheri

[AnnieB]

Both are talented, different genres. Tina's choice of who she enjoys
the most is just as valid as yours (not that I'm defending her choice of
words). If we all liked the same music, or the same artist, we wouldn't
need to have multiple recording stars or talent shows, would we?

AnnieB

[Feffeleskin]

Kim chose Benghazi West as the name of her first child.

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[Feffeleskin]

Micki,

You're spot on about Candice but I thought Angie Miller was better than
Kree. Why?
Kree was stonefaced, lifeless and made everything she sang sound the same.
On the other hand, Angie, had zest, a great smile and personality. However
all three
will land significant record deals just the same.

Feffel




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[Feffeleskin]

Right on.


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[Feffeleskin]

Annie, variety is the spice of life and the foundation of this nation is
based on one word, "CHOICE." Your statement is 100% correct. In fact, I'll
bet there are people on this board who still like Sanjay Malakar.
Didn't he star in "Life of Pi?"


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[Feffeleskin]

Now Candice can start on her diet and learn to smile. Her voice is
outstanding and that's it.

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[AnnieB]

On 5/17/2013 12:26 PM, Feffeleskin wrote:
> Annie, variety is the spice of life and the foundation of this nation is
> based on one word, "CHOICE." Your statement is 100% correct. In fact, I'll
> bet there are people on this board who still like Sanjay Malakar.
> Didn't he star in "Life of Pi?"
>
>

I loved Sanjaya! :-)

No, Suraj Sharma starred in "Life of Pi".

AnnieB

[Moni]

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I suspect she'd say she isn't familiar with that designer, but she might
have married him at some point.
--
Moni

Cool Kid since 2008

[Nancy2]

On May 17, 2:26 pm, "Feffeleskin" <Feffel...@aol.com> wrote:
> Annie, variety is the spice of life and the foundation of this nation is
> based on one word, "CHOICE." Your statement is 100% correct. In fact, I'll
> bet there are people on this board who still like Sanjay Malakar.
> Didn't he star in "Life of Pi?"
>
> "AnnieB" <Ann...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>
> news:kn5r4d$tt3$1...@speranza.aioe.org...> On 5/17/2013 10:14 AM, Feffeleskin wrote:
> > > You actually believe that Kree is more of a talent than Candice? You
> must be
> > > kidding.
>

> > > "Tin@" <tinas49...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:051866ed-341d-4071...@li6g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > >> stupid.  This show is done.
>
> > Both are talented, different genres.  Tina's choice of who she enjoys
> > the most is just as valid as yours (not that I'm defending her choice of
> > words).  If we all liked the same music, or the same artist, we wouldn't
> > need to have multiple recording stars or talent shows, would we?
>
> > AnnieB

You are kidding, right? He was not in Life of Pi.

N.

[Tin@]

On May 17, 8:09 am, Micki <most...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:07:44 -0700 (PDT), "Tin@"
>

> <tinas49...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >stupid.  This show is done.
>
> Not stupid at all.  she was the best singer in the competition with
> Kree being second best.
>
> Micki

Not.

[Tin@]

On May 17, 10:14 am, "Feffeleskin" <Feffel...@aol.com> wrote:
> You actually believe that Kree is more of a talent than Candice? You must be
> kidding.

No, I think Angie had more talent in her pinkie, than the 2 others had
in their whole bodies.


>
> "Tin@" <tinas49...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

[Tin@]

On May 17, 12:22 pm, "Feffeleskin" <Feffel...@aol.com> wrote:
> Micki,
>
> You're spot on about Candice but I thought Angie Miller was better than
> Kree. Why?
> Kree was stonefaced, lifeless and made everything she sang sound the same.
> On the other hand, Angie, had zest, a great smile and personality. However
> all three
> will land significant record deals just the same.
>
> Feffel

Then we agree.


>
> "Micki" <most...@verizon.net> wrote in message

[Giggles]

If this was a "who has the most talented body parts" show then I guess
she would have won. I don't want to know what talent her pinkie
holds. I bet Nigel does though. The best two singers were Candice
and Kree.

[Tin@]

Nope.

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:00:09 PM UTC-7, Bigolhomo wrote:

> So who should have won?

You basically are asking the wrong question.

You obviously believe in the votes, and I find that folly and foolish to the extreme, Big...

There is too much money and influence on the show not to have at least serious attempts being made to manipulate the winner. Their failures the last 2-3 years have stagnated the show, probably beyond repair.

> A few weeks ago, when Angie seemed to be the
> frontrunner you were complaining about the show rigging it so she
> would win.

Obviously. She was the only marketable brand in the Top Ten!

> Then she got the boot and the two singers,

Stop. There's your second problem. To consider the singing even _relevant_ on that program is looking in the wrong direction. Take that thought pattern to X-Factor, if that show survives this season!

The problem is that the show is looking for a brand. Look what they did with Carrie Underwood after she won season four. THAT is American Idol, NOT the singing career.

> who from what I
> could tell from reading the group, were largely considered to be the
> best two singers of the season,

Irrelevant. So were Lakisha and Mandisa in their seasons, and they were booted for being unmarketably fat. Sorry, gonna say it, there it is.

If we go with the best singer of the season, then the Black belters are going to win 9 seasons out of 10, because if you take a general cross-section, they're going to be the best singers.

> ended up being the top two, and you're
> still not happy. So tell us, who would have been the deserving winner
> and why?

Again, you're asking the wrong question. I don't think there was a _deserving_ winner in at least the Top Ten. I think most of the performers who could be what American Idol advertises to me (rather than what it is) are summarily discarded long before the television voting rounds, to ensure at least a certain type of winner, if not a certain winner outright.

So much so that, if I were given the reins, I'd dispense with the national auditions outright and go with an outright scouting process, and hold the producers accountable for the results.

> What it tells me is that they're owning up to their compete and utter
> irrelevancy.

If they were that irrelevant, given what they've said, there wouldn't have been a problem with FOX shutting them down.

Especially as ratings went through the floor (for both shows) the last couple of years, I'd have a hard time understanding how such a group would not have MORE influence as time went by.

> Their one "victory" this season was at the top 4 voting,
> and even then the contestant eliminated was their third choice for
> elimination.

What VFTW never understood until too late was that THE -- SHOW -- IS -- FIXED.

Sometimes it gets away from them (several of the WGWGs), but the fact is that the show believes it can decide for us who our Idols are.

(Really no different than the rest of the industry, but I digress...)

The problem is: What happens when those Powers That Be (I'm looking right at you, Mr. Lythgoe...) are going to be fired _and they know it_?

Well, take out the one saleable brand and tell who's going to be picking up these pieces to try to sell Candice...

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Friday, May 17, 2013 10:48:23 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
> "Tim Hall" <ihat...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

> > She'd probably say, "Ben Ghazi... wait, what team does he play for?"
>
> Except, Mike is not a she.

Cheri, I think Tim was talking about Kim Kardashian.

Mike

[Bigolhomo]

On Fri, 17 May 2013 15:22:48 -0400, "Feffeleskin" <Feff...@aol.com>
wrote:

>However
>all three
>will land significant record deals just the same.

No, they'll land crappy record deals that they're contractually
obligated to accept, and basically put themselves into indentured
servitude. Then they'll release an album that bombs, get kicked of
their record label, and start their career on the Former Idol
Contestant circuit.

[Cheri]

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Yes, somebody pointed that out already.

Cheri

[Feffeleskin]

Whatever happened to Elliot Yamin? He supposedly had a bright future
despite losing out. I know his mom passed but that's the last I heard of
him.

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