To PR
Mark Probert
posted a scintilla of proof that I am Ryan. I have no control of his
actions, and, frankly, your actions toward me justify anything he does
to you.
You have repeatedly defamed me with no facts to support you specious
allegations.
With this post, I will close this chapter, and move on. However, I
reserve the right to periodically check to ensure that I am no longer
the subject of your stupidity.
Because of the nature my business and 35+ years of experience hunting
people, I do know how to find just about anyone when I want to.
Briefly put, if you leave me alone, I will leave you alone. I hope to
never hear from you again.
Mark Probert
(Who is NOT Ryan).
Mark Probert
> Mark Probert wrote:
>
>> Briefly put, if you leave me alone, I will leave you alone. I hope to
>> never hear from you again.
>>
>> Mark Probert
>>
>
>
Since I am not Ryan, no. Mark Probert, who lives in New York, will not
post.
I do not control Ryan.
If you do not respond, I will leave.
Suzanne D.
"Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:fvO8g.64$xo2...@fe10.lga...
> Because of the nature my business and 35+ years of experience hunting
> people, I do know how to find just about anyone when I want to.
Scary.
--S.
Locutus
"PR" <newme...@cliffhanger.com> wrote in message
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>
> Mark Probert wrote:
>
>>
>> Briefly put, if you leave me alone, I will leave you alone. I hope to
>> never hear from you again.
>>
>> Mark Probert
>>
>
>
>
Dude!!! This guy isn't Ryan, and you are making yourself look like an ass.
Please stop, for the sake of everyone.
Karrde
"Locutus" <Loc...@Locutus.com> wrote in message
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>
> "PR" <newme...@cliffhanger.com> wrote in message
> news:1147385213....@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> Dude!!! This guy isn't Ryan, and you are making yourself look like an ass.
Again, you know that how? I see no way of proving that they are NOT the
same person at this point. The evidence that they are the same person is
circumstantial, but convincing.
--K
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Karrde
>> >
>>
>> Dude!!! This guy isn't Ryan, and you are making yourself look like an
>> ass.
>
> true....
Neither does repeating that he IS the same guy. The circumstantial evidence
is overwhelming, but the group at large does not have hard evidence. I know
that you know more, based on your contacts, than you are telling, but just
ranting on and on that they are the same is not helping the case. I think
you know this, as we have talked outside the group, so I hope this settles
down to a dull roar.
At the same time, I don't believe Locutus (or anyone else for that matter)
can prove different people exist. Even a post from "ryan" wouldn't prove
anything, as IP addresses don't follow people to a friend's house or to the
local library. We will just have to be content with the circumstantial
evidence unless and until there is sound reason to go after the little
weasle in court.
Mark Probert
> anything, as IP addresses don't follow people to a friend's house or to the
> local library.
You just cannot let it go, eh?
As for IP addresses...they are geographic specific. If you had mine, as
PR does, and you had Ryan (which he won't divulge) you would know where
we both live.
I'll tell you...I live on the south shore of Nassau County, NY, and this
can be verified by checking my IP address. Here is mine, and PR can
compare it to the one that was in my email to him:
68.194.24.232
You can then take it here:
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
I am a wee bit south of East Meadow.
Now, if you review everything you know about Ryan, you may be able to
figure out where he lives. If so, then compare it.
When you come to your senses, you do not have to say your sorry.
We will just have to be content with the circumstantial
> evidence unless and until there is sound reason to go after the little
> weasle in court.
What circumstantial evidence? That we use some of the same words? If you
think that that proves anything, you need to go back to school. It
proves NOTHING.
Now, if you do decide to go to court, please look up "malicious
prosecution" and "abuse of process". Since we are likely in different
states, do also review the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure with a view
to assessment of court costs.
PR and I agreed to drop this, but, apparently you want it continued. If
so, respond, if not, then let it drop.
I am not Ryan, and there is no proof that I am.
Karrde
> Karrde wrote:
>
>> anything, as IP addresses don't follow people to a friend's house or to
>> the local library.
>
> You just cannot let it go, eh?
Oh look, he lied about yesterday being his last day here. Is that any
surprise?
> As for IP addresses...they are geographic specific. If you had mine, as PR
> does, and you had Ryan (which he won't divulge) you would know where we
> both live.
Again, it does not follow you to a friend's house. The Supernews account
could be accessed by a friend in another part of the country. Certainly
even a vac whack would concede this point. It proves nothing. Nice try,
though.
> What circumstantial evidence? That we use some of the same words? If you
> think that that proves anything, you need to go back to school. It proves
> NOTHING.
There are other things as well. The fact that "ryan" has the drug lobby's
propaganda down to a science is one of them.
> Now, if you do decide to go to court, please look up "malicious
> prosecution" and "abuse of process".
Is it "malicious prosecution" or "abuse of process" to go after someone who
attempted to harm your family by making false claims to DCFS? I think not.
There may not be much precedence for action at this time, but if the case of
Jensen vs. The State of Utah proceeds as planned, prosecution may be easier
than you think.
> Since we are likely in different states, do also review the Federal Rules
> of Civil Procedure with a view to assessment of court costs.
If you are not ryan, then you have nothing to worry about, right?
> PR and I agreed to drop this, but, apparently you want it continued. If
> so, respond, if not, then let it drop.
I don't want it continued. I was responding to PR and essentially tell him
that there is no physical proof one way or the other at this point and that
he was wise in his decision to drop it. You are the one who lied about
leaving this group alone.
> I am not Ryan, and there is no proof that I am.
There is no proof that you are not either. No big deal. You hang on like
an ugly chick, don't you?
Suzanne D.
funnier.
--S.
"Andrea L" <and...@usa.com> wrote in message
> Why the fuck do you give a flying SHIT if a bunch of people in a group
> that you supposedly don't go into think you post as Ryan if you are not
> him? I've never see fucking trolls go on a rampage like I've seen this
> week. If you're not Ryan than QUIT wasting our time with this bullshit,
> you won't see it the posts and that'll be that. There's no goddamn
> reason you should be concerned about it if you're not the fucking
> asshole. I'm tired of your complaining.
>
> This is a guy who bitches about being called a stalker then two posts
> later writes "I'll hunt you down, I'm good at it." Someone should knock
> your fucking ass out just for saying that alone.
>
Mark Probert
> "Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:Yb79g.33$Id...@fe10.lga...
>> Karrde wrote:
>>
>>> anything, as IP addresses don't follow people to a friend's house or to
>>> the local library.
>> You just cannot let it go, eh?
>
> Oh look, he lied about yesterday being his last day here. Is that any
> surprise?
From your email and your statement above, it is clear that you have a
tad of a problem with reading comprehension. I said if I was LEFT ALONE,
I would leave.
That's it. Do not respond, do not mention me, etc. You and PR have
accused me and my family of criminal behavior. I therefore reserve the
right to monitor what is said about me, and respond accordingly.
>
>> As for IP addresses...they are geographic specific. If you had mine, as PR
>> does, and you had Ryan (which he won't divulge) you would know where we
>> both live.
>
> Again, it does not follow you to a friend's house. The Supernews account
> could be accessed by a friend in another part of the country. Certainly
> even a vac whack would concede this point. It proves nothing. Nice try,
> though.
What you and PR fail to acknowledge is that I am open and honest about
that. I do not automatically delete my posts, I provide sufficient
information for you to identify where I live.
Take the IP address, see that it corresponds to Long Island, NY, and
then take the NNTP posting host and see that it also corresponds to Long
Island, NY.
>> What circumstantial evidence? That we use some of the same words? If you
>> think that that proves anything, you need to go back to school. It proves
>> NOTHING.
>
> There are other things as well. The fact that "ryan" has the drug lobby's
> propaganda down to a science is one of them.
Oh, bullshit. Because we have similar opinions? Everyone has opinions.
There are many who share mine and there are many who share yours. Your
powers of logic and analysis are, at best, weak.
>> Now, if you do decide to go to court, please look up "malicious
>> prosecution" and "abuse of process".
>
> Is it "malicious prosecution" or "abuse of process" to go after someone who
> attempted to harm your family by making false claims to DCFS?
Since I have been on the receiving end of those complaints in the past
(an anti-smite who was harassing my family to make us move) I know that
in many jurisdictions there is no lawsuit possible as it is against
public policy. The argument is that to allow such a lawsuit might stifle
valid reports, etc. IOW, been there, done that, won't work in NY. Maybe
in Utah...who knows...
> I think not.
> There may not be much precedence for action at this time, but if the case of
> Jensen vs. The State of Utah proceeds as planned, prosecution may be easier
> than you think.
Well, find Ryan and do your thing. Serve Supernews with legal process
and get his name, address, etc. When you do, you can admit you were
wrong about me. After reading your abusive posts toward me, I do not
think you have the integrity to do so. I will not hold my breath.
>> Since we are likely in different states, do also review the Federal Rules
>> of Civil Procedure with a view to assessment of court costs.
>
> If you are not ryan, then you have nothing to worry about, right?
Incorrect. I have to worry about people who lack analytical capability,
such as yourself, interfering with my personal life.
>> PR and I agreed to drop this, but, apparently you want it continued. If
>> so, respond, if not, then let it drop.
>
> I don't want it continued. I was responding to PR and essentially tell him
> that there is no physical proof one way or the other at this point and that
> he was wise in his decision to drop it. You are the one who lied about
> leaving this group alone.
Since there is no physical proof, and your best efforts are bullshit,
your posts seem illogical since you accuse me of crimes.
>> I am not Ryan, and there is no proof that I am.
>
> There is no proof that you are not either. No big deal.
Of course, you do not realize that there is no way for me to prove a
negative, i.e. that I am not Ryan, but, that does not stop you from
making scurrilous claims about me.
You hang on like
> an ugly chick, don't you?
You are projecting.
Mark Probert
> that you supposedly don't go into think you post as Ryan if you are not
> him? I've never see fucking trolls go on a rampage like I've seen this
> week. If you're not Ryan than QUIT wasting our time with this bullshit,
You are bleating and braying to the wrong person. Try to tell the
initatiors of this, PR and Kaarde.
> you won't see it the posts and that'll be that. There's no goddamn
> reason you should be concerned about it if you're not the fucking
> asshole. I'm tired of your complaining.
See above.
Karrde
> Karrde wrote:
>> "Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
>> news:Yb79g.33$Id...@fe10.lga...
>>> Karrde wrote:
>>>
>>>> anything, as IP addresses don't follow people to a friend's house or to
>>>> the local library.
>>> You just cannot let it go, eh?
>>
>> Oh look, he lied about yesterday being his last day here. Is that any
>> surprise?
>
> From your email and your statement above, it is clear that you have a tad
> of a problem with reading comprehension. I said if I was LEFT ALONE, I
> would leave.
In your message where you said "this will be my last day in this group", you
made no caveats on your departure.
> That's it. Do not respond, do not mention me, etc. You and PR have accused
> me and my family of criminal behavior. I therefore reserve the right to
> monitor what is said about me, and respond accordingly.
I have never accused you of criminal behaviour and you know it.
>> Is it "malicious prosecution" or "abuse of process" to go after someone
>> who attempted to harm your family by making false claims to DCFS?
>
> Since I have been on the receiving end of those complaints in the past (an
> anti-smite who was harassing my family to make us move) I know that in
> many jurisdictions there is no lawsuit possible as it is against public
> policy. The argument is that to allow such a lawsuit might stifle valid
> reports, etc. IOW, been there, done that, won't work in NY. Maybe in
> Utah...who knows...
It does.
> Well, find Ryan and do your thing. Serve Supernews with legal process and
> get his name, address, etc. When you do, you can admit you were wrong
> about me. After reading your abusive posts toward me, I do not think you
> have the integrity to do so. I will not hold my breath.
If calling you a "pussy-ass bitch" constitutes abuse in your eyes, I have no
idea how you survived on Usenet this long.
Note, no reference to alter-identities in this post. That was your reason
for hanging on. Now, get lost.
Zee Rouge Ding Ding
Mark Probert
> Mark Probert wrote:
>>>> can be verified by checking my IP address. Here is mine, and PR can
>>>> compare it to the one that was in my email to him:
>>>>
>>>> 68.194.24.232
>>> reason you should be concerned about it if you're not the fucking
>>> asshole. I'm tired of your complaining.
>> See above.
>>
>
> his ip address to? then we can see he posts from whereever. someone
> else can verify its the real ip address and that will be that. what
> does posting your ip address do if we cant see 'ryans' ? ...if your
> great with headers (funny 'ryan' is great with headers to) just post
> 'ryan's ip address and clear everything up once and for all....
I thought you would end this...but you persist...
The simple answer to your question is that my posting it shows that I am
open and honest, as I have been all along.
I cannot post Ryan's as it is not available to me.
Since you are not as stupid as you would want others to think, I know
that you knew this, and asked the baiting question anyway.
Like I said, when I am left alone, and there are no more posts to or
about me, I am gone. I reserve the right to check.
crum...@gmail.com
on "Show Options" and then 'Show Original" it will give the ip from
where the message was posted. I don't know who this Ryan person is, but
if you have one of his posts you can do the same and see if the ip
matches.
Path:
g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.28.186.75.MISMATCH!hwmnpeer01.lga!hwmedia!news.highwinds-media.com!hw-filter.lga!fe10.lga.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
From: Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com>
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Mark Probert
> Mark Probert wrote:
>>> I thought you would end this...but you persist...
>> The simple answer to your question is that my posting it shows that I am
>> open and honest, as I have been all along.
>>
>> I cannot post Ryan's as it is not available to me.
>>
>> Since you are not as stupid as you would want others to think, I know
>> that you knew this, and asked the baiting question anyway.
>>
>> Like I said, when I am left alone, and there are no more posts to or
>> about me, I am gone. I reserve the right to check.
>
I never said you said it.
> you say you are a great hunter i dont see why you can get 'ryans' ip
> address. im only going by what you say i dont know anything about ip
> address or what that even is....you brought it up as some sort of proof
> and it doesnt prove anyhthing accept that you have a ip address....
If I were to sue Ryan, I would need to get his IP address through court
ordered legal process. Since I am not suing him, I cannot.
> the other poster is right....why do you care if anyhone thinks your
> 'ryan' if your not? you dont go in this group youll never see the posts
> so who cares?
Because YOU visited my regular newsgroups. That is stalking.
> im not persistting anyway. if you notice the other people kept this
> thread going not me. you just keep bringing my name up in it everytime
> someone else posts.... we all have our answers allready anyway.....
Mark Probert
> That is his IP address. If you are using groups.google.com, just click
> on "Show Options" and then 'Show Original" it will give the ip from
> where the message was posted. I don't know who this Ryan person is, but
> if you have one of his posts you can do the same and see if the ip
> matches.
It is an NNTP posting host which is somewhat different.
Ryan posts from Supernews which does not provide that in the header.
topcat
"PR" <newme...@cliffhanger.com> wrote in message
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>
> id...@idol.com wrote:
> >>
> > Actually PR has his own stalker group in google. Maybe PR is Mark
> > Probert:-)
> >
> >
>
> lol. right on schedule....mark/ryan your to predictable.
>
>
> 'mark' if some how you are actually not 'ryan' it would probably be a
> good idea to use your 'hunter' powers to post 'ryan' ip address....but
> then maybe you dont want to for some other reason...lol
>
Poll:
Reading this post is like -
A. Watching paint dry
B. Watching grass grow
C. Trying to get through an entire flkofcguls AI "review"
TC
--
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sokpupetz
topcat wrote:
> Reading this post is like -
>
> A. Watching paint dry
> B. Watching grass grow
> C. Trying to get through an entire flkofcguls AI "review"
>
> TC
It's more like sticking needles under my chewed up fingernails and
wiggling them around until I'm bleeding profusely and weak in the knees.
Karrde
> im not persistting anyway. if you notice the other people kept this
> thread going not me. you just keep bringing my name up in it everytime
> someone else posts.... we all have our answers allready anyway.....
Hey, I've got an idea. Why not just move this thread over to
alt.health.alternative so that we can all be rid of it here. While we're at
it, we can crosspost it to alt.troll, alt.flame.niggers and all of the other
groups where the scum of Usenet hang out. From the looks of
alt.health.alternative, this high level of mental discourse would fit well
with the likes of MP, Peter Bowditch, Coleah, etc. But lest I digress
(sic).
Sanna
I have an idea. Why don't you BOTH get the fuck out of here?
--
Mark Probert
While we're at
> it, we can crosspost it to alt.troll, alt.flame.niggers and all of the other
> groups where the scum of Usenet hang out.
I will defer to your expertise on being scum.
LAF
>lol. and you know this how??? repeating it over and over doesnt make it
>true....
>> Please stop, for the sake of everyone.
>i havent posted anything on it for over 24 hours. you did. i guess that
>makes you the ass, ass....
Who gives a crap?? I mean seriously, why does every newsgroup have to
have these troll hunters who think it is their job to point out trolls.
And god forbid someone disagree with them, suddenly they will be
labeled trolls as well.
Suzanne D.
"LAF" <sliceo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>I mean seriously, why does every newsgroup have to
> have these troll hunters who think it is their job to point out trolls.
I dislike troll hunters even more than I dislike trolls. If someone writes
a bunch of crap on a NG for the sake of stirring up trouble, his excuse is
that he is a troll. But someone who takes hours out of him time to prove
that someone is someone else or whatever HAS no excuse.
--S.
Suzanne D.
<id...@idol.com> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately Suzanne fed right into PR's trying to prove that I was
> someone else by accusing me of having a son who was afflicted with CP
> which may have been due to vaccines.
No I didn't.
--S.
Suzanne D.
Karrde
"Suzanne D." <sdal...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:X2uag.185$0z4...@fe03.lga...
You've got the monkey dancing yet again. I can just see him turning red and
stamping his little feet in anger. This is just too beautiful.
Suzanne D.
Paranoid much?
--S.
<id...@idol.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 3 May 2006 13:44:25 -0600, "Suzanne D." <sdal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>It's that projection thing he always talks about, combined with his
>>"Methinks the [person] doth protest too much." If his allowing his child
>>to
>>be vaccinated resulted in that child getting cerebral palsy (one of the
>>rare
>>side effects of certain vaccinations), he would be VERY likely to
>>vehemently
>>support vaccinations as a way to avoid the possibility that he harmed his
>>children.
>
> So here Suzanne is assuming that I am Mark Probert having a son with
> CP.
>
> Not only that but she is speculating that the cause of the CP is a
> rare complication of vaccination.
>
>
> The truth is that I am not Mark Probert, don't have a son with CP and
> there is no credible scientific evidence of vaccination rarely causing
> CP. That idea is promulgated by the ant-vac whackjobs who try to scare
> parents using innuendo, distortion and lies into not vaccinating. And
> Suzanne feeds right into it.
>
> Ryan
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Catch the McPheever
Suzanne D.
"Karrde" <karrde_s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You've got the monkey dancing yet again. I can just see him turning red
> and stamping his little feet in anger. This is just too beautiful.
It's even a little sad. He's going all over the group looking for my posts
to criticize now. He even attributed a post from Vandar to me (three times)
because he apparently honed in on my post alone rather than keeping up with
the actual conversation (which would have allowed him to see Vandar's
original quote), and he got a little mixed up about who said what.
Maybe I'll start to mess with quotes--you know, remove an arrow from each
line, remove the OP's name, etc.--to mess him up and make him look even
puppetier.
--S.
topcat
We get it. You didn't.
We get it. You didn't.
Suzanne D.
<id...@idol.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 17 May 2006 04:11:35 -0600, "Suzanne D." <sdal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Karrde" <karrde_s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:446a9438$1...@x-privat.org...
>>
>>> You've got the monkey dancing yet again. I can just see him turning red
>>> and stamping his little feet in anger. This is just too beautiful.
>>
>>
>>It's even a little sad. He's going all over the group looking for my
>>posts
>>to criticize now.
>
>
Just stating a simple fact, dear. If you think the facts sound bad, it
means you think you are doing something bad. Guess you just have very low
self-esteem.
--S.