Keeping Kosher?
David / Amicus
isn't kosher more than just dietary? Isn't keeping Sabbath included? So
how can they compete from Friday sundown through Saturday sundown?
Caroline
> I understand that one team is Jewish and wants to keep kosher. But
> isn't kosher more than just dietary?
No, it's principally used to refer to dietary rules.
In slang, as you probably know, it's used to refer to anything that
violates a standard protocol.
The extent to which Kosher is kept depends on the branch. Orthodox
expectations/requirements will differ from Reform. Some variation may be
observed by geographic locale and custom, too.
Depending on the branch, to what extent Kosher is kept may depend on the
individual's conscience.
When dining out, some Jewish people feel it's okay to break Kosher, though
to be avoided.
Watch the different responses you get to this thread. Which is correct?
Probably all of them are correct. ;-)
> Isn't keeping Sabbath included?
No. Keeping Sabbath is a mitzvah (commandment), though. Again, how it
should be observed varies from branch to branch. If these folks are at all
observant, I expect they may take time on Friday evenings around sunset to
observe the Sabbath. But this may be al they do. Some branches have little
problem with this, particularly when traveling, even if it's for a race.
Indeed, if these contestants say they're going to give a pile of their
winnings to charity, comporting with any Jewish law that will impede their
success would be seen by many Jewish authorities as not what God wanted.
> So
> how can they compete from Friday sundown through Saturday sundown?
Also, whether such competition is work or fun is debatable. Certain
branches of Judaism say no work whatsoever. But fun is another matter.
I'm sure someone will quote some authoritative sources on the matter. :-)
Shawn Kirshbowm
conservative in that religion.
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Steven Litvintchouk
David / Amicus wrote:
"Keeping kosher" refers to various dietary laws, that's all. Obeying
the Sabbath is a separate issue.
Now keeping kosher varies depending on the sect of Judaism. At least it
means eating meats that were only from ritually slaughtered animals,
and avoiding eating pigs and shellfish. It's not difficult to keep
kosher if you're a vegan. :-)
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animzmirot
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> isn't kosher more than just dietary? Isn't keeping Sabbath included? So
> how can they compete from Friday sundown through Saturday sundown?
Keeping shabbas isn't the same as keeping Kosher. Kosher has to do solely
with food. It's the dietary laws alone. You're mixing it up with Halacha,
which is the 613 mitzvot (commandments) that observant Jews are supposed to
keep. Of course, it's nigh near impossible to keep anywhere near that, but
that's what one strives towards.
Anyhow, to keep Kosher on AR would mean that the could not eat ANY meat or
meat products. If they keep cholov yisroel (doubtful) that would eliminate
non-Kosher dairy products as well. Plus, much of the fish meals would be off
limits, as well as shellfish and fish minus fins and scales. I don't see how
they could do it with the kind of eating challanges like Caviar (not
Kosher). But maybe the AR took that into account. It's moot, since they're
gone, but I would have really liked to see them make it farther.
>
animzmirot
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> David / Amicus wrote:
>
> > I understand that one team is Jewish and wants to keep kosher. But
> > isn't kosher more than just dietary? Isn't keeping Sabbath included? So
> > how can they compete from Friday sundown through Saturday sundown?
>
> "Keeping kosher" refers to various dietary laws, that's all. Obeying
> the Sabbath is a separate issue.
>
> Now keeping kosher varies depending on the sect of Judaism. At least it
> means eating meats that were only from ritually slaughtered animals,
> and avoiding eating pigs and shellfish. It's not difficult to keep
> kosher if you're a vegan. :-)
Um, this is so simplistic an explanation as to be really incorrect. Kashrut
means that you eat ONLY foods that have been supervised and hechshered by a
specific organization that is responsible for watching the manufacture and
packaging of any particular product. It is NOT just avoiding pigs and
shellfish. It is so far from that as to be almost laughable. And perhaps
it's not as hard to keep kosher as a vegan, but it is still hard. There are
rules about vegetables and fruits (eating insects is forbidden), as well as
some grains. It would behoove you to speak about what you know, not what you
THINK you know.
ric
I'd say it's a moot point now. They *were* annoying, anyway.
Jack Rimbaud
> I'd say it's a moot point now. They *were* annoying, anyway.
They were a little annoying, but in a funny way. I'd much rather listen to
them kvetch than have to hear the white trash wrestlers try out for their
own segment on "Cops".
ric
Ah, the "wrasslers" are now #2 on my "must go" list. (Jonathan and
Victoria are #1.)