Ally McBeal and the current beauty ideal
Dwib
It occured to me as I watched (regretfully) Mission Impossible II that
Thandie Newton's beauty type is closely related to that of Ally McBeal:
very slender and petite, with huge, doe eyes and full lips
(characteristics that were once reserved for cartoon characters). It also
occured to me that Tom Cruise, as perhaps the biggest star in Hollywood,
would insist that he be paired only with *the* most beautiful starlet.
It's therefore telling that he chose, in effect, Ally McBeal. Or, more
accurately, he chose an African American Ally. Should we deduce then that
Ally McBeal *is* the current beauty ideal? Perhaps. Perhaps not. It was
just something that occured to me. Thandie Newton is stunning, as the
consensus seems to be, but I do think that Ally paved the way for her by
redefining the beauty ideal, at least a little.
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McBeal is the current beauty ideal"? If you're
referring to Thandie's weight, she has a well-
proportioned body unlike Calista Flockhart.
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bran...@my-deja.com
ho...@pro-ns.net (Dwib) wrote:
> Tom's new object of desire:
>
> It occured to me as I watched (regretfully) Mission Impossible II that
> Thandie Newton's beauty type is closely related to that of Ally
McBeal:
> very slender and petite, with huge, doe eyes and full lips
> (characteristics that were once reserved for cartoon characters). It
also
> occured to me that Tom Cruise, as perhaps the biggest star in
Hollywood,
> would insist that he be paired only with *the* most beautiful starlet.
> It's therefore telling that he chose, in effect, Ally McBeal. Or, more
> accurately, he chose an African American Ally. Should we deduce then
that
> Ally McBeal *is* the current beauty ideal? Perhaps. Perhaps not. It
was
> just something that occured to me. Thandie Newton is stunning, as the
> consensus seems to be, but I do think that Ally paved the way for her
by
> redefining the beauty ideal, at least a little.
>
> --
> Please reply to ho...@pro-ns.net
Newton (who is Zimbawean & British) is that Thandie has a well-
proportioned body. I'm not sure if their facial features are a trend
or not but it's at least a welcome change from the norm.
Monika Böhm
its probably so, just think on the last James Bond which "game
character" was playing the part of the good girl. the beauty type is
changing all the time, could you remember on bay watch pam :-)
rgd
Monika
bran...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Please reply to ho...@pro-ns.net
> > What exactly do you mean when you say "Ally
> McBeal is the current beauty ideal"? If you're
> referring to Thandie's weight, she has a well-
> proportioned body unlike Calista Flockhart.
>
David Monroe
But she is nowhere near the stick figure that Calista Flockart is. As
for her full lips, well she is black. Finally, Calista Flockart is no
trailblazer in beauty. Have we forgotten Kate Moss and the other beyond
thin supermodels of the early to mid 90's? One more thing. Before you
dismiss Thandie Newton as a "starlet", take a look at her performance in
"Beloved"
CindyB
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Gandalf
> Am I the only one who remembers Twiggy?
No. :-)
> Have we forgotten Kate Moss...
Well, we certainly haven't on this side of the pond. :-)
Gandalf
CindyB
extremely thin is the way to be, like it is some new phenomenon. Twiggy set
the standard of beauty at a time when I was a self-conscious girl. At 5
feet 5 inches and 130 pounds, I felt obese, as did many of my friends.
Funny, but that is now my goal weight.
Along the same lines, does anyone remember the movie Thoroughly Modern
Millie? I don't recall much of it, but there was a scene that is still
fairly vivid in my mind. A female character is trying to wear a long strand
of beads but her chest size prevents the beads from falling in a straight
line down her front. It was played for laughs, but it again thin was in and
a "normal" sized body was not the ideal.
Remember Gone With the Wind and the scene when Scarlet is having her waist
cinched? They really did that in those days.
I think we may have to go back centuries to find a time when thin was not
considered the ideal look. This whole Kate Moss, Calista Flockhart,
extremely thin look is not new. Neither is anorexia nervosa. (Anorexia
means loss of appetite. Anorexia nervosa is the correct term for the
illness that those like Karen Carpenter suffered from.)
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DonnaB
"CindyB" <cbu...@twcny.rr.com> put down the iced tea long
enough to say:
> I think we may have to go back centuries to find a time when thin was not
> considered the ideal look.
In the US to the 30s, 40s, but, even in the 50s a softer,
rounder look was very appreciated. Look at the girls on Coke
ads over the years, the previous movie logos, etc. But,
trendiness is not a lateral moving thing that gets to a
certain point & never changes back. Pendulum swings. But,
its swung to the point, far beyond 'Mod' Twiggie although
that certainly started it for us Baby Boomers, to heroin
chic which is actually a deathly look.
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>But she is nowhere near the stick figure that Calista Flockart is.
Skinny people cant be beautiful?
starcro1
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> On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:03:28 GMT in alt.tv.ally-mcbeal
> "CindyB" <cbu...@twcny.rr.com> put down the iced tea long
> enough to say:
>
> > I think we may have to go back centuries to find a time when thin was
not
> > considered the ideal look.
>
> In the US to the 30s, 40s, but, even in the 50s a softer,
> rounder look was very appreciated. Look at the girls on Coke
> ads over the years, the previous movie logos, etc. But,
> trendiness is not a lateral moving thing that gets to a
> certain point & never changes back. Pendulum swings. But,
> its swung to the point, far beyond 'Mod' Twiggie although
> that certainly started it for us Baby Boomers, to heroin
> chic which is actually a deathly look.
I remember Twiggy (now called Twiggy Larson as an actress). When she was a
still a teenager, she was the top fashion model for the Mod look out of
Carnaby Street, London. I remember because she was the first grown woman I
ever saw topless in a magazine - Life Magazine, at that! It was a photo of
Twiggy posing nude while a sculptor made a clay mold from which Twiggy
lookalike department-store mannequins would be made. I guess the editors of
Life didn't think a naked Twiggy would would offend many readers - most
11-year-old boys have more curves than she did.
That's one thing I'll say about Calista Flockhart. Slight though she is, her
figure is decidedly that of a woman. If she had appeared mude in a
general-interest magazine in the 1960s, the editor would have gotten angry
letters.