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I am very troubled by tonight's episode.

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Zane Jones

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Feb 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/15/99
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Not Happy? Hate the way things are going? Want to just bust Billy's knee
caps? Then join the rest of us at LOBH, the Legion of Billy Haters.

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Zane Jones
zjo...@columbus.rr.com
*what a pitch

Tara TLC <tar...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990215225325...@ng22.aol.com...
>OK, I know it is sweeps week, but this bites. I thought sweeps week was
when
>you give the viewers what they want. I'd say 25% of the viewers want
this.
>The rest of us are intelligent.
>
>Next weeks looks even worse. Not happy, not happy not happy not
happynothappy
>nothappy not happy, As the biscuit would say p..p.pppp..p..p..Phoey on
DEK
>for pulling this crap. Billy is a big LOSER. Hello Billy, remember those
>little vows you took two years ago. HELLO. Remeber the beautiful blonde
you
>have at home you sleezy wimpy little sleezy excuse for a male. ( Did I say
>sleezy yet?)
>
>Ally has Mr. Wonderful, he is gorgeous, he loves her, and he can SING.
As
>Ling says in "Payback" HUBBA, HUBBA, HUBBA. Jesse L. Martins best be
sticking
>around. I will not be pleased if they send him away again. He is way to
YUMMY
>to leave.
>
>Screw Bygones, DEK, I am very troubled by this turn of events.
>
>
>Tara
>
>
>If a little kid asks where rain comes from I think a cute thing to say is
"God
>is crying" and if they ask why God is crying, I think another cute thing to
say
>is "Probably because of something you did." - Deep Thoughts by Jack
Handey

Tanya Haldane

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Feb 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/15/99
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Are you all INSANE?!?! Have you never felt true love? If you had. and you
let it pass you by, then you would know how incredibly true to life
tonight's episode was. God, I've been waiting forever for something like
this to happen. I agree, that made permanent, this relationship would kill
the show in a big way, but the occassional glimpse of the depth of their
feelings does nothing but create a much more incrdeible scenario if you ask
me. Billy and ally were meant to be. How on earth can you expect them to
never let that show? Love is the most powerful force on earth, and
sometimes you miss it at first. That's all that happened. should they go
on pretending that they feel nothing? what a boring show that would be.
The basis for the show was that Ally loved Billy and always would. Should
the writers just ignore that fact? It seems that most of you have. Go
Billy! True Love overcomes all!!!!

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Tara TLC

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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Briareus

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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Being the sappy romantic that I am, I would've agreed with all of that,
except for one thing - where the hell was Billy's eternal and undying love
when he ran off with (or to, whatever) Georgia?

Tanya Haldane wrote in message <0U6y2.10035$bq.60351361@WReNphoon2>...

BLMcCombs

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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The episode that showed he wasn't running from Ally but TO Georgia proved that
Ally is not Billy's One.

Billy doesn't have the backbone to be a one.

I thought the most telling moment was when Ally said (pardon for the lack of
accuracy here) that he always felt this way when another man fell for her and
that this would pass as well.

This is wrong, wrong, wrong and I'm so frustrated and upset.

I certainly hope this is all wrapped up for good within the next few episodes.


Argh.

(and do you think she ever showed up to dinner with Greg?)

--Britt

Brandon Rowlett

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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Agreed! I couldn't believe they ran this and I just hope DEK has some
elegant way to extradite Ally and Billy from this mess. When this show
first started, I wondered how long it would take them to start up the
Ally, Billy, Georgia triangle. This could have easily waited for another
season or two. There are so many other plotlines that could be explored
than resorting to this. Personally I find Biscuit and Nell's relationship
more intriguing than the rehash of Ally and Billy being made for each
other.

Needless to say, I'm dissappointed. This only serves to undermine the
credibility of both Ally and Billy. If DEK turns this into a story arc
carrying over to next season, I will be very turned off.

Brandon

Brandon Rowlett

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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The problem is where do you go if you really introduce this problem? Obviously
the characters can't go about as if nothing happened. And once introduced,
if it is swept away under the rug, it just becomes annoying to keep bringing
it up again, so it would pretty much be mute from that point on. Or it risk
becoming a soap opera. Like I said in a previous post, I hope DEK knows what he's doing.

WL

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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In article <0U6y2.10035$bq.60351361@WReNphoon2>,

Tanya Haldane <thal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Are you all INSANE?!?! Have you never felt true love? If you had. and you
>let it pass you by, then you would know how incredibly true to life

yes, love does crazy things to me, so in that sense i am insane. i can
identify with billy's feelings for ally, but the NERVE of him to break her
heart, marry georgia, and now come back whimpering like that makes me
sick. he should pay for his decision and regret it for the rest of this
miserable life.

if billy loves ally, he should want her to be happy. this is not it.

W

Rachel Rhee

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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However people put it I don't like it. I understand people fall in love and
stuff. What Billy should have done is to reflect on his feelings and the
situation. If he comes to a conclusion that he really loves Ally, he
should have first tell Georgia that he wants to get a divorce. Then, go to
Ally and tell her that she is the one he loves and he is getting a divorce.
The fact that he doesn't want to risk getting turned down by Ally and to
face the possibility of being alone makes him a WIMP. And his using Georgia
as a back-up and entertaining the idea of sleeping with two women makes him
a SLEAZY BASTARD.
And Georgia has a right to be mad at Ally too (although far less than to
Billy). Georgia and Ally have become a sort of friends during past year,
granted they are not the best of friends. Ally should have some
responsibility since 1) she knew Billy was married and 2) she knew she was
kissing Georgia's husband.

Rachel

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+AD4-feelings does nothing but create a much more incrdeible scenario if you ask
+AD4-me. Billy and ally were meant to be. How on earth can you expect them to
+AD4-never let that show? Love is the most powerful force on earth, and
+AD4-sometimes you miss it at first. That's all that happened. should they go
+AD4-on pretending that they feel nothing? what a boring show that would be.
+AD4-The basis for the show was that Ally loved Billy and always would. Should
+AD4-the writers just ignore that fact? It seems that most of you have. Go
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Stuart O. Bronstein

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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BLMcCombs <blmc...@aol.comicky> wrote:
>
>I thought the most telling moment was when Ally said (pardon for the lack
>of accuracy here) that he always felt this way when another man fell for
>her and that this would pass as well.
>
>This is wrong, wrong, wrong and I'm so frustrated and upset.

Well, it almost *had* to happen. After all, Ally can't be allowed to find
love. It would ruin the tension of the show. Well, perhaps until the
fifth or sixth season.

--
Stu (delete * from email address)

"You see a lot of smart guys with dumb women, but you hardly ever see a
smart woman with a dumb guy."

- Erica Jong

SMUgrad

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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From the desk of thal...@yahoo.com (Tanya Haldane) comes this:

>Love is the most powerful force on earth, and sometimes you miss
>it at first. That's all that happened. should they go on pretending


>that they feel nothing? what a boring show that would be.

>The basis for the show was that Ally loved Billy and always would. Should

>the writers just ignore that fact? It seems that most of you have. Go

>Billy! True Love overcomes all!!!!

Let's see...Billy went away to Michigan in part (I believe) because he
didn't want to (or didn't know how?) deal w/ his feelings for Ally.
Sounds like pretending he feels nothing. So far on the show, Ally and
Billy have basically pretended they felt nothing, and the show has
been far from boring, IMHO.

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Mike Harris

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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On 16 Feb 1999, Brandon Rowlett wrote:

| If DEK turns this into a story arc carrying over to next season, I will
| be very turned off.

Last season, there were twenty-three episodes; there have only been
fourteen so far. My educated guess is that this is not going to be a
nine-episode-long story arc. Unlike 'Star Trek', 'Ally' does not seem
prone to the 'cliffhanger-over-the-summer' schtick.

--
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teresa ha

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WL (w...@primenet.com) wrote:

: if billy loves ally, he should want her to be happy. this is not it.

look at that. two simple sentences encompassing all that is wrong.
happiness isn't offering back a portion of the heart that you've torn
out. happiness is watching the heart spring back anew, beating whole.

yes. besides, that heart that billy is offering back has all those dang
arteries hanging off. very inconvenient.

t.
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http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~tha

jaZZmanian Devil

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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teresa ha wrote:

> : if billy loves ally, he should want her to be happy. this is not it.
>
> look at that. two simple sentences encompassing all that is wrong.
> happiness isn't offering back a portion of the heart that you've torn
> out. happiness is watching the heart spring back anew, beating whole.

Gawd Damn, t! That was damned near poetic! Not to mention correct.
jaZZ md
impressed

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precipitate."
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robe...@pop.slkc.uswest.net

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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What a jerk Billy is. All he wants is Ally to be waiting in the wings for
him (for years maybe) if Georgia ever leaves him. If Ally picks Billy she is
just asking for trouble and loneliness. Greg seems to be the one for her.
This episode bugged me because 1. he is married 2. he is selfish and she
should be able to see that very clearly and 3. greg - the good guy looks as
if he will be the looser Is this how real life is always? Sometimes women
are smart enough to see through jerks like Billy and sometimes good guys do
get the girl.
My two cents.
Liz

robe...@pop.slkc.uswest.net

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aml...@my-dejanews.com

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t...@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (teresa ha) wrote:

> yes. besides, that heart that billy is offering back has all those dang
> arteries hanging off. very inconvenient.

Yes, but I've found that a generous supply of newspapers will keep the carpet
from getting messy.

Amletto di Milano

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Shelley J.

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Rachel Rhee wrote:

> However people put it I don't like it. I understand people fall in love and
> stuff. What Billy should have done is to reflect on his feelings and the
> situation. If he comes to a conclusion that he really loves Ally, he
> should have first tell Georgia that he wants to get a divorce. Then, go to
> Ally and tell her that she is the one he loves and he is getting a divorce.
> The fact that he doesn't want to risk getting turned down by Ally and to
> face the possibility of being alone makes him a WIMP. And his using Georgia
> as a back-up and entertaining the idea of sleeping with two women makes him
> a SLEAZY BASTARD.
> And Georgia has a right to be mad at Ally too (although far less than to
> Billy). Georgia and Ally have become a sort of friends during past year,
> granted they are not the best of friends. Ally should have some
> responsibility since 1) she knew Billy was married and 2) she knew she was
> kissing Georgia's husband.
>

Agreed! Some men in real life do what Billy is currently doing: they see that their former
love is moving on and happy with someone else and all of a sudden they "aren't sure" they
want to be with their spouse, significant other, etc.

The real deal here is that Billy doesn't want Ally to move on. I don't doubt that he has
feelings for her, but he married another woman who he claimed he knew was the one within ten
minutes of meeting her. If he doesn't want to be with Georgia anymore, fine. Divorce her.
But don't go behind her back with a former love and start an affair. It isn't fair to
Georgia or to Ally although Ally is a culprit in all of this too.


Janetamb

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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>you give the viewers what they want. I'd say 25% of the viewers want this.
>The rest of us are intelligent.
>

I guess I am one of the stupid one's. I wanted billy out of denial, so Ally
could tell off his butt. But, if they are meant to be together, then they are
just meant to be together.

janet

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