Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

james marsden singing?

231 views
Skip to first unread message

.John

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 12:03:14 AM11/6/01
to
is it actually his voice or is it a lip-sync?

i'm hoping it's him singing but i can't be certain.

anyone know?


Smapdi

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 12:21:32 AM11/6/01
to
Yes, it's really him. He also sang the song "Glow" for the soundtrack for
the movie "Gossip."

".John" <em...@email.com> wrote in message
news:BaKF7.1131$rx1....@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...

.John

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 12:22:25 AM11/6/01
to
whoohoo!
thanks for the quick reply.
:-)


"Smapdi" <sma...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:9s7rsa$nr4$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net...

.John

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 12:32:15 AM11/6/01
to
also, would you know where i could download a clip of his 2 songs
so far from the show?
thanks


"Smapdi" <sma...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:9s7rsa$nr4$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net...

OggyDoggy

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 1:47:57 AM11/6/01
to

".John" <em...@email.com> wrote in message
news:BaKF7.1131$rx1....@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
> is it actually his voice or is it a lip-sync?
>
> i'm hoping it's him singing but i can't be certain.
>
> anyone know?
>
Mike Most has said that they do not dub voices. All singing is done by the
actors.


Harvey Payne

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 3:18:17 AM11/6/01
to
Both, actually. I read in the paper that he recorded the song in a
studio, then did lip-sync to his own recording for the shoot. Makes it
all sound better. My guess is this is standard practice for all the
songs done by all concerned on the show.

H

".John" <em...@email.com> wrote in message
news:BaKF7.1131$rx1....@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...

Judy

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 8:43:38 AM11/6/01
to
"Harvey Payne" <Harvey...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<d1NF7.56931$SF4.1...@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com>...

Is anyone able to advise the name of the song he sung at the beginning
of the show last night? (Nov 5)

Harvey Payne

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 12:59:47 PM11/6/01
to

"Judy" <jud...@aci.on.ca> wrote in message
news:d9af85d5.0111...@posting.google.com...

> Is anyone able to advise the name of the song he sung at the beginning
> of the show last night? (Nov 5)

I was mistaken in quoting the article -- it was an article about Episode
4 and Josh Hopkins singing. I'm sure the methodology is the same though.
Hopefully I'm not violating some rule within the group when I provide
the article in its entirety below:

New 'Ally' cast member begins season on the right artistic note

Josh Hopkins had just finished a game of pickup basketball and was stuck
in traffic on Los Angeles' 405 freeway.

His cell phone rang. On the other end was his new boss, David E. Kelley,
the creator of "Ally McBeal."

"Josh?"

"Yeah?"

"Can you sing?" Kelley asked.

Hopkins considered the question. He was an Ally newbie -- one of three
new actors who joined the hit Fox show as full-time cast members.

"Well, what do you mean, 'Can I sing?' Everyone can sing. I can't
particularly sing well."

"Well, can you hold a tune?"

"Yeah, I can hold a tune."

"I've got an idea," Kelley continued, "a good song for you to sing in an
upcoming episode."

The Lexington, Ky.-born actor has been working since 1996, having picked
up starring roles in TV's "New York Undercover" and "Jack & Jill" and
feature film parts in "The Perfect Storm," "G.I. Jane" and "Love and
Sex."

This season on "Ally," he's Raymond Milbury, an opposing counsel with an
overactive libido and a chauvinistic streak.

Though he doesn't much go for talk of star-making, Hopkins is
nonetheless poised for his breakout role.

He wasn't even through shooting the first episode, and there he was,
stuck in traffic, getting a song from David Kelley.

And the song? "Poke Salad Annie."

The tune -- a deep South swamp-rock classic covered by Elvis Presley --
is vintage Kelley, which is to say, blissfully warped.

Hopkins sings it in the fourth episode.

By himself.

"It was horrifying," Hopkins said.

The actor is no shy guy. As family and friends will attest, the son of
former U.S. Rep. Larry Hopkins and Carolyn Hopkins has been a goof since
he was a kid.

"But I am not a singer," he said from the "Ally" set.

First, he had to record the song in a studio so he could later lip-sync
on the set.

"That was just horrifying, putting on those little headsets in the
studio with all those technicians and Vonda Shepard and people ready to
hear you."

That was bad enough. Then came the day he had to go to the set and
lip-sync to his own singing.

"The first time they played it in rehearsal with everybody in the bar --
they started playing the song, and it's my voice coming over, and I
wanted to run away."

But a funny thing happened on the way to wrapping the scene.

"By take 15, I was like: 'Play it again!' " Hopkins shouted.

He sings it down-home, which works for his character's background --
thanks to some none-too-subtle suggestions in Kelley's ear, Raymond
Milbury is now from Kentucky.

"At first I think (Kelley) was making him from Indiana," the actor
recalled.

Since those finer points have been ironed out, Hopkins is having a ball
on the show.

"Everyone here is so freakishly talented," he said, referring to Kelley
and a cast that includes Calista Flockhart, Greg Germann, the
soon-to-depart Lucy Liu and Peter MacNichol, who will scale back his
role this season.

Hopkins' Raymond character enters the picture as the friend and
colleague of new Fish & Cage lawyers Glenn (James Marsden) and Jenny
(Julianne Nicholson); the three came aboard after the highly publicized
departure of Robert Downey Jr.

"It's amazing the stuff that comes out of my character's mouth," Hopkins
said. "I'm having a great time playing him.

"Ninety-five percent of the time he's gratingly chauvinistic. At least
he's honest about what he thinks," Hopkins said, laughing.

The show is known for its intercounsel romances, so which legal lass
does he hook up with?

Hopkins can't say, but he does allow: "More than one. And the saga
continues," he chuckled. "I read the new script, and he just keeps
rolling along."

The "Ally" set is fun, Hopkins said, but in the show's fifth season,
it's also a tight ship.

"It was kind of difficult to catch up," he said. "They're like a train
that's already moving, and I felt like I had to run to try and catch up
and jump on. And now I feel like I'm really in it and going."

He said it took him a few episodes to get his footing as Raymond, but
things really clicked by episode four. "That's a really big episode for
me," Hopkins said.

That would be, ahem, the "Poke Salad Annie" episode.

"And now it's to the point where I can really explore and play with
him."

And what about playing with Flockhart, one of TV's most famous leading
ladies?

Hopkins said that to be around the new mother is to feel a palpable joy.
(She adopted a baby, Liam, in January.)

Hopkins hasn't had the chance to participate in one of the show's famed
unisex bathroom choreographed dance extravaganzas.

But should he get the call, he's ready.

"I think I'd be better at dancing than singing," he said, chuckling. "So
bring it on."

Heather Svokos writes for the Lexington (Ky.)

Herald-Leader.


CindyB

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 1:39:27 PM11/6/01
to
> Hopkins' Raymond character enters the picture as the friend and
> colleague of new Fish & Cage lawyers Glenn (James Marsden) and Jenny
> (Julianne Nicholson); the three came aboard after the highly publicized
> departure of Robert Downey Jr.

I find this amusingly worded, as if the writer feels that it would take 3
people to replace RDJ.


Michael D. Most

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 7:50:44 PM11/6/01
to

"Judy" <jud...@aci.on.ca> wrote in message
news:d9af85d5.0111...@posting.google.com...
> "Harvey Payne" <Harvey...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<d1NF7.56931$SF4.1...@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com>...
> > Both, actually. I read in the paper that he recorded the song in a
> > studio, then did lip-sync to his own recording for the shoot. Makes it
> > all sound better. My guess is this is standard practice for all the
> > songs done by all concerned on the show.

Not all. There are times we record live, sometimes for a single performer,
sometimes for a choir. Steve Robin makes those decisions based on many
factors, including instrumental backing requirements, sound requirements for
the rest of the scene, complexity of the performance, and sometimes actor
availability for prerecording. Sometimes we just get lucky while we're
shooting, though, as in the case of Elton John recently. We were shooting
with the prerecorded track playing back, we cut in the middle of the song
for technical reasons, and Elton just went on and kept playing and singing
the song live for the crew. Quite a treat.

Mike Most (Visual FX Supervisor on "Ally")

Harvey Payne

unread,
Nov 7, 2001, 4:19:33 AM11/7/01
to
As I said, "My guess is..." but it was ONLY a guess. Thanks for the
inside INFO from one who would know!

Harv

"Michael D. Most" <mike...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
news:Ez%F7.70752$xe.17...@typhoon.we.rr.com...

David Samuel Barr

unread,
Nov 7, 2001, 2:26:43 AM11/7/01
to
Harvey Payne wrote:
>
[mass snippage of quoted newspaper article]

> He wasn't even through shooting the first episode, and there he was,
> stuck in traffic, getting a song from David Kelley.
>
> And the song? "Poke Salad Annie."
>
> The tune -- a deep South swamp-rock classic covered by Elvis Presley
> -- is vintage Kelley, which is to say, blissfully warped.
>
> Hopkins sings it in the fourth episode.
>
> By himself.

[more snippage, just to save space]

> He said it took him a few episodes to get his footing as Raymond, but
> things really clicked by episode four. "That's a really big episode
> for me," Hopkins said.
>
> That would be, ahem, the "Poke Salad Annie" episode.

[still more snippage]


The correct title of the song is "Polk Salad Annie", written and
originally recorded by Tony Joe White. White's 1969 single charted
12 weeks, peaking at #8. (His album of the same name charted 16 weeks,
peaking at #51.)
Presley never covered the song in a studio recording, only in concert,
so it appears only on the live albums of his February 1970 Las Vegas
and June 1972 Madison Square Garden concerts (and the various posthumous
compilations that have excerpted it from those albums). Tom Jones,
though, did cover the song as a track on his 1970 studio album, "Tom".
Other artists who have covered the song more recently include Sleepy
LaBeef, Big Twist & the Mellow Fellows, Joel Sonnier, Joe Dassin, James
Burton, and Dutch Mason.


Harvey Payne

unread,
Nov 7, 2001, 12:08:55 PM11/7/01
to
Thanks for the corrections. I've yet to see a newspaper article that
spoke the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Any time
I've been privy to a newsworthy article, and then read about it in a
newspaper, it always had many little things wrong, and at least one big
thing wrong. Apparently, this article was no exception to that rule.

Harv

"David Samuel Barr" <dsb...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:3BE8E2...@mindspring.com...

0 new messages