The strange case of Martin and Lianne Smith
Michael Snyder
2) Martin and partner (wife?) Lianne flee Britain for Spain with their
child Rebecca
3) In Spain they have a 2nd child Daniel.
4) Martin is extradited from Spain back to Britain to face the sex
abuse charges.
5) Lianne kills the two children in Spain, to keep them out of
government care.
6) Spanish authorities declare that DNA testing reveals the children
are not related to Martin,
which Lianne adamantly denies.
Mother awaiting trial over the death of her two children is told TV
psychic 'was not the father'
By Charlotte Gill
Last updated at 10:30 PM on 19th December 2010
Lianne Smith, the British mother awaiting trial in Spain for killing
her two children, has been told that her convicted paedophile partner
is not their father.
She says police informed her that DNA tests on the bodies of five-year-
old Rebecca and 11-month-old Daniel prove they are no relation to
former TV psychic Martin Smith.
Yesterday she described the claims as ‘nonsense’ and added: ‘I’ve
never been unfaithful.’
Miss Smith, 44, fled Britain with her lover three years ago after he
was accused of raping and sexually assaulting a young girl during a
decade-long reign of terror.
He was extradited from Spain in May, and days later Miss Smith, a
former children’s social worker in Cumbria, is alleged to have
smothered Rebecca and Daniel with a plastic bag in a hotel room on the
Costa Brava.
She has told the Daily Mail that she did it so they could not be taken
into care.
From her prison cell yesterday, she said: ‘The Spanish police must
have mixed up the DNA samples. I know I’ve only slept with Martin
since we got together.
They’re both definitely Martin’s children. Daniel was conceived when
we got to Spain. Is anyone seriously suggesting that I slept with
someone in Spain? It’s ludicrous.
‘Martin knows they’re both his and I know he’ll know the DNA tests are
wrong.
‘I want to get the tests re-done by someone independent in the UK but
I’m not sure the Spanish authorities will let me. It feels like such a
cruel accusation. I love Martin and would never even think of cheating
on him.’
Miss Smith, who faces 20 years in jail if found guilty of murder, told
a friend that she has instructed solicitors to order new pathology
results on her children’s bodies.
She added: ‘I was devastated when the Spanish police told me the DNA
tests showed that our children were not Martin’s.
‘I’ve never been unfaithful to him and never would. It’s all a smear
campaign to punish me even more.’
In an interview with the Daily Mail published last week, Miss Smith
explained why she took her children’s lives.
She said: ‘I worked in social services. I know how terrible the
children’s lives are in care. I couldn’t let them be taken away
knowing what their life would be like. Children in care have no
chance.’
Martin Smith was remanded in custody until February following his
conviction at Manchester Crown Court last week but Mr Justice Stephen
Irwin said a ‘significant custodial sentence is inevitable’.
The 45-year-old former Butlin’s entertainer used hypnotism and
violence to abuse his victim from when she was seven.
During the week-long trial, Miss Smith gave evidence via a videolink
on his behalf. She described the girl’s testimony as ‘absolute
nonsense’.
After the verdict, the victim issued a statement saying: ‘My
motivation has always been to protect other children from Martin
Smith.
‘He abused me for more than a decade. Even after his arrest he
prolonged my agony by fleeing abroad.’
Lesmond
This is a weird one, all right. It makes my head spin. The guy has
supposedly been abusing her for years and she subjects her children to that
"abuse" but kills them rather then let them go into another person's care?
Bugfuck crazy.
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If there's a nuclear winter, at least it'll snow.
Mick
That must very hard on him - getting convicted and having your wife
kill both your kids, then finding out they weren't yours. (Bad
news- they're dead. Good news, theya ren't yours!" ????)
I'm thinking foster care might not be the best, but it isn't that
bad.
I wonder who will get out of jail first? Him? Or her? Then, of
course, he'll have to register for the rest of his life, doubtful that
she will.
What we hear of the sex case is just his word and hers, but he did get
convicted. I'm thinking that there must have been other evidence, not
mentioned in teh news. And, of course, his fleeing didn't make him
look more innocent.
Michael Snyder
I don't think anyone has said that he abused her kids (whether or not
they were his).
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:35:00 -0800 (PST), Michael Snyder wrote:
> >1) Martin Smith is accused of systematic sexual abuse of a minor girl.
> >2) Martin and partner (wife?) Lianne flee Britain for Spain with their
> >child Rebecca
> >3) In Spain they have a 2nd child Daniel.
> >4) Martin is extradited from Spain back to Britain to face the sex
> >abuse charges.
> >5) Lianne kills the two children in Spain, to keep them out of
> >government care.
> >6) Spanish authorities declare that DNA testing reveals the children
> >are not related to Martin,
> >which Lianne adamantly denies.
>
I don't think that Lianne was the victim they quoted there.
Michael Snyder
wrote:
No, the victim remains un-named.
Lesmond
The victim is humanity. I'm hoping they wipe both of them out and spare us.
Lesmond
I didn't say he did. It's terribly traumatic for children to witness the
abuse of one of their parents. That's what I meant.
Michael Snyder
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:14:08 -0800, Michael Snyder wrote:
> >Lesmond wrote:
> >> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:35:00 -0800 (PST), Michael Snyder wrote:
>
> >>> 1) Martin Smith is accused of systematic sexual abuse of a minor girl.
> >>> 2) Martin and partner (wife?) Lianne flee Britain for Spain with their
> >>> child Rebecca
> >>> 3) In Spain they have a 2nd child Daniel.
> >>> 4) Martin is extradited from Spain back to Britain to face the sex
> >>> abuse charges.
> >>> 5) Lianne kills the two children in Spain, to keep them out of
> >>> government care.
> >>> 6) Spanish authorities declare that DNA testing reveals the children
> >>> are not related to Martin,
> >>> which Lianne adamantly denies.
>
He didn't abuse their mother either.
Lesmond
Yes, I misread it. I couldn't concentrate due to the sheer bugfuckedness of
the whole story. It's nice that he didn't abuse his wife but only raped
children.
Michael Snyder
*A* child.
Lesmond
Yes, Michael. If it was only one that makes it so much better.
Michael Snyder
Well pardon me for caring.
It wasn't his kids.
It wasn't his wife.
It wasn't "children".
It was one child.
Mick
Any bets as to who will get out first?
The husband who raped one little girl?
Or
The wife who murdered two kids?
Michael Snyder
Well, he's under British authority, but she killed the kids in Spain.
I have no idea how severe Spanish law can be.
Mick
The article says she "faces 20 years." I don't know exactly what
that means. My impression is in the US that would mean -maybe- 7
years, with almost no never actually doing 20 years.