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Chocolic

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Jan 8, 2004, 1:18:32 AM1/8/04
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I've never heard of that before, "causing indignity to a dead body". I
wonder what that means?

Chocolic
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Woman charged in tot's death

The partner of Rebbecca Haney's mother is charged with second-degree
murder.
KELLY PEDRO, AND PATRICK MALONEY, Free Press Reporters 2004-01-06
05:56:13

WOODSTOCK -- The mysterious Christmas Eve death of 2 1/2 -year-old Rebbecca
Haney took a dramatic twist yesterday when police charged the partner of
the tot's mother. Melissa Babineau, 24, is charged with second-degree
murder and causing an indignity to a dead body.
Adding further intrigue, police also charged Babineau's mother, Vanessa
Babineau, 46, of Beachville, with being an accessory after the fact.

The charges come almost two weeks after the girl's body was found in the
basement of the isolated farmhouse her mother, Misty Haney, shared with her
partner and her children.
"It's a step toward Rebbecca being able to rest in peace," Paige Haney, the
little girl's aunt, said of the charges.

For much of her short life, Paige cared for and lived with Rebbecca,
relatives say.
Word of the murder charge did little to ease the pain her family is
feeling, Paige added.
"Of course there's anger," she said, choking back tears. "It's all
confusing. I don't know how anybody can do this."

Rebbecca's paternal relatives said little yesterday. Her grandmother,
Kathie Brett -- whose son, Ray Alles, is Rebbecca's father -- declined
comment when contacted at her Woodstock home.
"I really think we're going to respect the police at this time and not make
a comment," she said, referring to the investigation. Investigators told
the family not to speak to the media.

Oxford OPP remain tight-lipped about details of the case, declining to
elaborate on the charges.
"Part of the evidence that the investigators have been able to obtain gives
them the reasonable, probable grounds to believe that these offences have
been committed," said Const. Dennis Harwood.

Police would not expand on the charge of causing an indignity to a dead
body.

The Criminal Code broadly defines the charge, but sources say it could mean
a variety of things, including improperly disposing of a body or not
notifying authorities of it.

Police have said the toddler's mother, her partner and the partner's three
children -- eight, six and three -- were at home when police were called to
the farmhouse near Embro.

Haney called police about 9 a.m. Christmas Eve after she awoke to find her
daughter missing from her bed in the farmhouse in Zorra Township, northwest
of Woodstock.

Police found the girl dead in a room in the basement of the house about six
hours later.
Harwood said Haney and her family "remain devastated by the whole
incident."
He said the family has been helpful in the police probe, nearing the
two-week mark.

Babineau was arrested at a Woodstock residence Sunday and her mother at a
Beachville home at the same time, police said.

Babineau and Haney had earlier lived together in Beachville, said a former
neighbour.
The two women had moved into the farmhouse three weeks before Rebbecca
died.
Police haven't released the cause of death, saying they're awaiting
forensic test results from Toronto.

Melanie Williams, whom Misty used to babysit and who watched yesterday as
the two defendants were led out of court to a police van, said the tot was
Misty's pride and joy.

"She would have done anything for Rebbecca," she said. "Wherever Misty
went, the baby went with her. She was so protective of her."

CHRONOLOGY

Dec. 23
- 7:30 p.m.: Misty Haney, 25, puts 2 1/2 -year-old Rebbecca Haney, her
daughter, to bed.

Dec. 24
- 8 a.m.: Misty Haney awakens to find Rebbecca missing from where she had
put her to bed the night before.

- 9:15 a.m.: Oxford OPP are called to the farmhouse on the 43rd Line in
Zorra Township, an isolated rural area where Haney had moved three weeks
earlier with her partner, Melissa Babineau, 24, and her three children.

- 3 p.m.: Police find Rebbecca's body in the house, calling her death
"suspicious."

Dec. 25
- The child's body is sent to Hamilton General Hospital for an autopsy and
samples are sent to the Centre of Forensic Science in Toronto for analysis
to help determine the cause of death.

Dec. 26
- The autopsy is completed.

Dec. 27
- Police remain at the farmhouse, guarding the scene.

Dec. 28
- Police upgrade their probe of the suspicious death to a homicide
investigation.

Yesterday
- Police charge Babineau with second-degree murder and causing an indignity
to a body. Police also charge her mother, Vanessa Babineau, 46, of
Beachville, with being an accessory after the fact.


Michael Snyder

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Jan 8, 2004, 1:27:23 AM1/8/04
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"Chocolic" <chatt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've never heard of that before, "causing indignity to a dead body". I
> wonder what that means?

Variously called "abuse of a corpse", etc.


Chocolic

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"Michael Snyder" <msn...@redhat.com> wrote in message
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I wonder what the heck she did? They haven't said so far as any of the
articles I have read.

Chocolic


Michael Snyder

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This seems to be an arbitrary enhancement that can be tacked onto
a murder charge. AFAICT, anything you can do to a corpse other
than allow it to come into the hands of licensed morticians can
qualify as abuse.

There seems to be little or now pattern to when this charge is added to a
murder charge.
It may fail to be applied to a dismemberment, but be applied to something
trivial like
carrying the corpse around in the trunk of a car.


Bo Raxo

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Jan 8, 2004, 6:43:37 AM1/8/04
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> "Chocolic" <chatt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "Michael Snyder" <msn...@redhat.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > "Chocolic" <chatt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:YC6Lb.11144$214.3...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > > I've never heard of that before, "causing indignity to a dead body".
> I
> > > > wonder what that means?
> > >
> > > Variously called "abuse of a corpse", etc.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I wonder what the heck she did? They haven't said so far as any of the
> > articles I have read.
>
> This seems to be an arbitrary enhancement that can be tacked onto
> a murder charge. AFAICT, anything you can do to a corpse other
> than allow it to come into the hands of licensed morticians can
> qualify as abuse.

I suspect that mishandling human remains is a different statute. "Causing
indignity" sounds like a charge used if there is some sexually-motivated act
(i.e., necrophilia) carried out on the corpse. Since rape requires a
victim, you can't be charged with raping a dead person, so perhaps this is
the equivalent charge.

Just a guess. It could also refer to removing some body part(s), what they
used to call "plundering" the corpse in the days of yore.

Maggie

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Jan 8, 2004, 8:41:17 AM1/8/04
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choc posted a news story:
***OMG. This is Ramsey, two days early, without the note.

Keep us posted.


Maggie

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Happy Kwanzaa!" -- Jay Leno

Michael Snyder

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"Bo Raxo" <invasio...@thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
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You could be right, but if you read the article, the general comments
that are offered about the charge aren't all consistant with the word
"indignity". Seems it's much broader than it sounds.

Michael Snyder

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Well, and with two moms...


Roxie Hougan

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Jan 8, 2004, 12:04:16 PM1/8/04
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"Chocolic" <chatt...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>- 9:15 a.m.: Oxford OPP are called to the farmhouse on the 43rd Line in
>Zorra Township, an isolated rural area where Haney had moved three weeks
>earlier with her partner, Melissa Babineau, 24, and her three children.
>
>- 3 p.m.: Police find Rebbecca's body in the house, calling her death
>"suspicious."

I wonder why it took that long to find her.

Michael Snyder

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People tend to hide dead babies.

SageJelly

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Jan 8, 2004, 1:18:06 PM1/8/04
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>Subject: Re: Mother's Female Partner Charged With Tot's Murder
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Maybe her body had been posed in some grotesque fashion? Or since her body was
apparently hidden in the house, perhaps she had been stuffed into a trash bag
or some receptacle that would lead one to conclude "indignity to a corpse".

Ashley Romo

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Woman convicted of killing 2-year-old girl granted parole
CTV Kitchener
Published Thursday, March 23, 2017 6:16PM EDT
Last Updated Thursday, March 23, 2017 6:50PM EDT
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More than a decade after she was sentenced to life in prison for second-degree murder over the death of a young girl, Melissa Babineau has been granted day parole.

Babineau was convicted of murder in 2006 in connection with the December 2003 death of Rebbecca Haney. At the time, she maintained that she did not kill the two year old.

By the time she was making her case to the parole board, she had changed her tune – saying she put her hand over the girl’s mouth and pinched her nose, suffocating her.

She told the parole board that she was fighting the stress of the Christmas season, as well as caring for four sick children. She had been living with Haney’s mother on a farm near Embro, west of Woodstock.

Many of Haney’s relatives have been attending Babineau’s hearings as she has moved through the parole process, including this week’s hearing at the Grand Valley Institution for Women in Kitchener.

Kathie Brett, who was one of Haney’s grandmothers, told CTV News that while she is “not comfortable” with the decision to grant Babineau parole, she understands that it is part of the Canadian justice system.

“I believe she’s done all she needed to do to get out,” she said.

Conditions of Babineau’s six-month parole include staying out of Oxford County and not contacting Haney’s relatives. She will be living in a halfway house in the Hamilton area.

In its decision, the parole board noted that Babineau is able to deceive other people – but ultimately concluded that she is at a low risk to violently re-offend.

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11 years for killing a 2 yr old yet another reason for the death penalty to be brought back to Canada.

https://lfpress.com/2013/12/22/ten-years-later-the-little-girls-loss-still-haunts-her-family The killer was the lesbian lover of the victim's mother the dyke who birthed the child died of a drug overdose 8 years later such a evil lifestyle.

Ten years later, little girl's loss still haunts her family
Author of the article:Patrick Maloney
Published Dec 22, 2013 • Last updated Dec 23, 2013 • 4 minute read
Rebbecca Haney
Article content
Kathie Brett quite often finds herself way over there, on some imaginary plane, an alternate reality where her granddaughter isn’t still a pretty toddler in a blue dress, chubby little legs peeking out as she plays barefoot on a lush front lawn.

The girl’s 12 now, a teen come April. She’s funny, vibrant and polite, maybe even outgrowing the dysfunction into which she was born, and loved. Certainly loved above all.

Over the past decade, Brett’s grown used to that imaginary world, a place of comfort and relief when the grief washes over her, as it does so often. She closes her eyes and can so vividly see her beloved first grandchild as a pre-teen, they can almost touch.

But then she has to open her eyes and remember this Christmas will mark 10 years since little Rebbecca Haney was killed in her own Oxford County home by her mother’s same-sex partner, Melissa Babineau. And she has to face the fact Babineau is reaching out to her tiny victim’s relatives while inching closer to freedom.

So when Brett and others who so loved that child think of how she died, and inevitably ask what they could have done, who could blame them for drifting to some other world?

Who could blame them for not wanting to snap back into this one?

* * *

It was Christmas Eve 2003 when police were called to the farmhouse shared by Babineau and Misty Haney in Embro, a village in Oxford County.

Living with them were four kids, three of Babineau’s and two-year-old Rebbecca, Misty’s only child.

On this morning, though, the focus was solely on Rebbecca, who Babineau said she’d last seen the night before while Misty was away. Police were soon called and the search was on.

Within hours, the nightmare became reality: the little girl’s body was found in grisly fashion in the home’s basement — in a garbage bag, inside a box, behind the furnace.

It would be two weeks before Babineau, then 24, was charged with second-degree murder, but for the two grandmothers who soon bonded over their shared loss, regret set in much quicker.

Brett, whose son was Rebbecca’s dad, still wrestles with the old rumblings of how Babineau treated little Rebbecca. Jackie Wade, whose daughter Misty Haney was Rebbecca’s mom, shares the pain.

Sitting over cups of coffee in Wade’s quaint trailer — mere minutes from that odious Embro farmhouse — the pair recently recalled collecting the dead child’s things and seeing the bedrooms: Babineau’s kids’ rooms were properly furnished, set up like a child deserves.

Rebbecca’s room had virtually nothing — not even curtains. Just a crib in an otherwise empty space.

One memory that won’t wane is Rebbecca’s swollen ear, maybe a month before her death. It unnerved her paternal grandmother, though she was assured it was the result of an innocent fall.

“You can’t call someone on something like that unless you know,” Brett says. “(But) Misty told me how Melissa treated Rebbecca. She didn’t like Rebbecca, a pretty blond-haired girl that everybody wanted to be with.”

And so it would play out in Woodstock court, where in the spring of 2006 Babineau was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 15 years.

That was the end, except of course it wasn’t. There is no end, as every news story of a missing child reminds Brett and Wade, just as contact from Babineau — who’s behind bars in Kitchener, but closing in on freedom — brings it all back.

The anniversary’s timing, right before Christmas, only makes it harder.

“One of the last things I did with Rebbecca was to take her to the Santa Claus parade in Ingersoll,” Wade recalled last week. “AndA to this day, I have not been to a parade since.”

* * *

It didn’t get easier for Misty, who never recovered from her daughter Rebbecca’s slaying. In early 2008, Misty, 29, died of a drug overdose — giving Wade a double dose of pain, as grieving mother and grandmother.

The struggle continues. Last month, the National Parole Board granted Babineau escorted leaves from prison and deemed her “a low risk for violence and a low/moderate risk for non-violent recidivism.”

That ruling came on the heels of a letter from Babineau in which the convicted killer admitted for the first time to murdering Rebbecca (she’d denied any wrongdoing at trial).

“It’s been a long journey to arrive at this point,” she wrote, “because I was in denial and could not face the shame and guilt associated with this admission.”

Forgive Brett, Wade and their families if they shrugged off the admission. They saw it as an attempt to appear rehabilitated with her application for day passes looming.

The fact Babineau misspelled Rebbecca’s first name in the letter — she used the traditional spelling, with one B — left them shaking their heads.

The two grandmothers have earned the right to be skeptical. Forgiveness is a nice ideal, of course, but it’s hard to offer when still grieving, even a decade later.

“When you get to a decade and think of where she could be and just all of that — it’s hard to look at that as a milestone,” Brett said.

* * *

Rebbecca Haney deserved so much more: more love, more mercy, more time, more life.

But it wasn’t always bad for the little girl who was loved and lost. There were fleeting moments of bliss, a few strands of childhood glee her family clings to all these years later.

Like that picture taken in her nanna’s front yard, the one that so captures the beauty of children in general and Rebbecca specifically: flawless skin, bright eyes, limitless potential.

For that frozen moment, everything is perfect. A lovely smile jumps off her face and those chubby little legs peek out from her pretty blue dress.

There’s no pain or fear. There’s no death or indignity.

There’s just a joyful child, barefoot in the grass forever.

patrick...@sunmedia.ca

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The world would be a better place without homosexual sex acts.

The Bible and Talmud and Koran all forbid homosexual sex acts with the punishment being death. Homosexuals are only 1.7% of the CDN population and are overrepresented in the penal system, among the homeless, among the mentally ill with some ppl believing homosexuality itself is a mental illness like pedophilia and necrophilia and bestiality, among the alcoholic and drug addicted, AIDs is primarily a disease of homosexuals it costs CDN tax payers 25k a year to keep them alive. The recent rise in syphilus is caused by homosexual sex acts. Monkey virus pox all queers.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 New International Version (NIV)
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) in the KJV is it is called an ABOMINATION the only word in the whole Bible to be in bold face.

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13).

1 TIMOTHY 1:10
KJ21 for whoremongers, for those who defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjurers, and for whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine
ASV for fornicators, for abusers of themselves with men, for menstealers, for liars, for false swearers, and if there be any other thing contrary to the sound doctrine;
and for sexually immoral persons, for homosexuals, for kidnappers and slave traders, for liars, for perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,

Romans 1:26-27

Paul writes: "God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

Jude 1:7
"Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." (KJV)

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