Partial Transcript of Testimony is Wichita Trial
tiny dancer
""They were shouting...directed everybody to get undressed..and to lay on
the bed.....they had Heather and I come out of the bedroom...they
pointed...we went out to an area...wetbar,,,and they told us to perform oral
sex...
..& uh uh...uh I did to Heather first & she did that back and then uh,...
tthey wanted to..uh..l; to uh... digitally penetrate one another and we uh
did that and uh uhh and ...we had sex... but he didn't have an erection...
so they were angry...several guys came out...they hit him on the back of the
head and after that I went back into the closet..........Uh...they were
demading uh...they were quite irrational...they were just shouting...we were
under the impression that after they were done they would probably SHOOT
US!.....he shouted ...my mouth to her vagina..uh...it would be her mouth to
my vagina...
And then they were just screaming, one of them made er ....a howling
sound.....It was uh...more...I remember it was... they moved so that they
could get a better view...it was actually a simultaneous action....she was
digitally penetrating me while I was doing the same to her...uh...maybe 5
mnutes,,,5 or ten minutes......my head was to the west- to the wetbar...she
would have also been on her back..you and Heather...both with Brad...I
believe so...Brad was on top of me...demands to have sex...for him to
penetrate me..............he didn't have an erection...did his penis
penetrate...inaudible...they had been down by my feet...Did Brad make
any...perform...uh...I don't recall...when Jason was...penetrate your vagina
with his penis...there was penetration, but he didn't have an erection...
uhhand he was....didn't comply...they were angry that he wasn't doing what
they had asked him to do...he didn't do what they wanted...there was some
conversation about an erection....you have some certain time to get that
vagina entered!......He cried out...I had it partially under my face...you
could kind of see...I could see my feet...was on top of me....uh...I could
see a little bit....was he in any way able to penetrate your
vagina....Yes...and then complied...there was
ejaculation?...inaudible...uh...uh...back to the closet,,,&...uh...uh...was
forced to have sex with Heather...we were ordered to sit in the
closet...when we were in there...the clothes had been taken out...a small
pillow...
...couldn't really see out (louvres?)...Aaron was required to have sexual
relations?...what you saw or heard...uh...I'm not exactly sure what
happened...was going to have sex with Heather...uh..actually I think that
(inaudible) was going to have sex first...Aaron wa out with Heather...I
think HARD ON...
I was in the...was naked...if he didn't have an erection, he would be
SHOT...so I was trying to help Jason...
at that point in time Brad was gone...uh...of the 2 intruders...uh while
Brad was gone...uh...and then I was pulled out to the wetbar...where
(inaudible) raped me...
''looked like...the closet light was on...there somelight in the hallway and
living room...intruder #1- uh...taller thinner...black male...I'm not sure
if I saw it all at that moment....he had on an orange and black sweater that
has FUBU
.........
...and then I was pulled out to the wetbar...where (inaudible) raped me...
...blood...black letter coat on...was there a decision about whose vehicle
would be used?...uh....they wanted to know who had money...uh...who had ATM
cards...we all raised our hands as we were laying down...I think around
$400-$500...and a couple of hundred...and aBrad had between a thousand and
$1,500...
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The thread by No 1965 was pulled out by Court TV....
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Court TV pulled out the thread, I am picking this up on another thread, but
it will be pulled sooner or later
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uh...that countdown....had kinda of protested...didn't want to comply...and
uh...was there an incident between Heateher and Aaron?...uh...I was uh...
out in the wetbar area after Brad left ....uh...I was... to come out...I was
spread on the floor on all fours...with (inaudible) behind me...uh...a
silver handgun...by me as I was down on all fours...I saw...
The autopsy of 25 year-old Heather Muller indicated NEW TRAUMA to her HYMEN,
indicating she was a virgin until the brothers repeatedly raped her.
A devout Catholic, Heather had returned from her volunteer duty at the
Newman (Catholic) Center at Wichita State University (WSU) on the night of
the massacre.
The comments by Reggie Carr apparently were
""Ever been with a Black dude, before you Bitch"
Then he pulled the trigger....
"I attended the second day of the preliminary hearing, the day after the
surviving victim recounted the horrific ordeal of the Carr brothers'
victims. During a break in the proceedings, several family members of the
Carr brothers left their seats in the back of the courtroom and sat in the
jury box, where they were only a few feet away from the defendants. All
manner of laughing, giggling and making faces at each other then ensued. It
was the most surreal and repugnant sight I've ever witnessed. When Reginald
Carr saw me staring at this display, he flicked his tongue, obscenely, at
me; a gesture I've experienced several times before when driving by black
men on the street."
Description of crime
they can delete it if they want to, but it does cover the truth from start
to finish.
Christi Conley
It was a riveting article.
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Christi
Stampin' Up! Representative
Art Without Anxiety
www.ArtWithoutAnxiety.com
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tiny dancer
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> Thank you for posting that link -
> It was a riveting article.
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> Christi
Your welcome, I came across it on the Court TV message boards and thought
I'd forward it.
td
DemocRAT Exterminator
> It was a riveting article.
OK, now I'm pissed. That article does not contain an exact
transcript- it is from someone quickly jotting down bits and pieces of
testimony as they heard it on the radio. I have been taking the time
to post 100% accurate transcripts I made from videotaped testimony-
including most of the material posted in that article, only verbatim
instead of paraphrased. And do I get any thanks for it? Nooooooo.
Incidentally, I posted some of my accurate transcripts to the Court TV
message boards- and those politically correct cowards took it down.
With the exception of Catherine Crier (a Republican) Court TV is doing
everything it can to cover up this existence of this trial.
Greg
WOW. I'me getting a erection reading this! :)
Greg
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tiny dancer
> > It was a riveting article.
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> OK, now I'm pissed. That article does not contain an exact
> transcript- it is from someone quickly jotting down bits and pieces of
> testimony as they heard it on the radio. I have been taking the time
> to post 100% accurate transcripts I made from videotaped testimony-
> including most of the material posted in that article, only verbatim
> instead of paraphrased. And do I get any thanks for it? Nooooooo.
I think she was referring to the link I posted at the end of the transcript
part, not the 'transcript' itself. I myself grabbed this bit and the 'link'
off the Court TV message boards cause I was afraid they'd delete it
otherwise.
td
DemocRAT Exterminator
You're turned on by rape? Please have yourself castrated immediately.
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DemocRAT Exterminator
> > > Thank you for posting that link -
> > > It was a riveting article.
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> > OK, now I'm pissed. That article does not contain an exact
> > transcript- it is from someone quickly jotting down bits and pieces of
> > testimony as they heard it on the radio. I have been taking the time
> > to post 100% accurate transcripts I made from videotaped testimony-
> > including most of the material posted in that article, only verbatim
> > instead of paraphrased. And do I get any thanks for it? Nooooooo.
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> I think she was referring to the link I posted at the end of the transcript
> part, not the 'transcript' itself.
You're right- never mind
I myself grabbed this bit and the 'link'
> off the Court TV message boards cause I was afraid they'd delete it
> otherwise.
I posted a couple meassages regarding this trial to the Court TV
boards at about 1:00 am PST- and they were deleted less than TEN
MINUTES later!
What's odd is the material I posted was taken verbatim from footage
shown on Court TV's Crier Live. I wonder if Crier is fighting some
kind of lonely internal battle agaonst the CTV management, who clearly
want to bury this story
tiny dancer
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> "tiny dancer" <tinyda...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > > Thank you for posting that link -
> > > > It was a riveting article.
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> > > OK, now I'm pissed. That article does not contain an exact
> > > transcript- it is from someone quickly jotting down bits and pieces of
> > > testimony as they heard it on the radio. I have been taking the time
> > > to post 100% accurate transcripts I made from videotaped testimony-
> > > including most of the material posted in that article, only verbatim
> > > instead of paraphrased. And do I get any thanks for it? Nooooooo.
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> > I think she was referring to the link I posted at the end of the
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> > off the Court TV message boards cause I was afraid they'd delete it
> > otherwise.
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> I posted a couple meassages regarding this trial to the Court TV
> boards at about 1:00 am PST- and they were deleted less than TEN
> MINUTES later!
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> What's odd is the material I posted was taken verbatim from footage
> shown on Court TV's Crier Live. I wonder if Crier is fighting some
> kind of lonely internal battle agaonst the CTV management, who clearly
> want to bury this story
I know, I'd been reading yours too, that's what led me to the Court TV
message boards, thanks! I know some of what I posted was a repeat of yours,
but like you I just wanted to get it out before it was deleted, so if anyone
wanted to keep up with this trial they could.
I was looking forward to watching this trial on Court TV.....they really
pissed me off not showing it...........when it first began Court TV was
great..............now I couldn't care less if my cable outfit dropped 'em.
td
Wild Monkshood
tiny dancer wrote:
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> pissed me off not showing it...........when it first began Court TV was
> great..............now I couldn't care less if my cable outfit dropped 'em.
Conspiracy theories aside, do you have any info that CourtTv is not taping
the trail or are not planning on showing it later?
Wild Monkshood
<Snippers>
Greg
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tiny dancer
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No, but when they do that they usually have a correspondent on the scene,
and that person gives updates and stuff, don't they?? Like M.J. Stevenson
will 'fill us in' yadda yadda yadda.........or when they do those
'newsbreaks' on the half hour they'll swing to the courthouse and have an
'update'.......... I'll admit I haven't been watching court tv this week,
but I have tuned in a couple times just to check up on what's going on, and
I've seen a couple of these 'newsbreaks' and not heard anything about
'seeing this case in the future on tape'.......and I don't believe Crier has
mentioned that aspect either.
td
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Wild Monkshood
tiny dancer wrote:
Thanks for the info. I'll admit that I'm torn on wanting to see this trial,
any ways. Sometimes I'm very empathic about certain things, especially if it
concerns people abusing/torturing other people. I'll think I'm cool with it and
then out of the blue, sometimes years later, I'll start to focus/obsess on it.
Years ago, I saw tape of a muumuu Clad Old Hag sic an Attack dog on an Animal
Control Officer. Sometimes, at the oddest time, that Officer's face, as that dog
clamped onto her hand, will flash into my mind and I feel the initial disgust
and loathing all over again. From the descriptions I've heard of what was done
to these people, in the Carr case, I suspect that this trial would affect me
similarly. Still, that small part of me wants to dissect/discuss/experience this
crime and its aftermath.
Wild Monkshood
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tiny dancer
I've got that exact same 'flashback' monks........that woman in the doorway
telling the Animal Control woman to 'get away' or her dog might get
her.........and damned if that dog doesn't come right out and attack. That
woman should have been jailed.
I know what you mean, this crime just incessed me so much, brought out all
these 'feelings'........I didn't necessarily want to hear it all
either.........but I wanted to 'see those guys' expressions in the
courtroom.........see them be found guilty.......and see that the poor
victims got some sort of justice......... This one really got to me.
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Bill Clem
chicks should have been more receptive they might still be alive today!
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> "Christi Conley" <Wicke...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<Cakp9.15827$ue4.9...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> > Thank you for posting that link -
> > It was a riveting article.
>
> OK, now I'm pissed. That article does not contain an exact
> transcript- it is from someone quickly jotting down bits and pieces of
> testimony as they heard it on the radio. I have been taking the time
> to post 100% accurate transcripts I made from videotaped testimony-
> including most of the material posted in that article, only verbatim
> instead of paraphrased. And do I get any thanks for it? Nooooooo.
>
> Incidentally, I posted some of my accurate transcripts to the Court TV
> message boards- and those politically correct cowards took it down.
> With the exception of Catherine Crier (a Republican) Court TV is doing
> everything it can to cover up this existence of this trial.
>
Thanks.