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satu...@yahoo.com

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Aug 12, 2002, 12:52:21 PM8/12/02
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Does anyone know a good bankruptcy attorney? I hear this guy's good,
anyone know anything about him?

Jeffrey Freedman, Esq.
622 Liberty Building
Buffalo, New York 14202
(716) 856-7091

--
Amazing number opf documents in a bankruptcy filing 9615XXX

"There are three kinds of people in the world. There are wolves and there are sheep. And then there are those who protect the sheep from the wolves..."

satu...@yahoo.com

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Aug 12, 2002, 1:13:57 PM8/12/02
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This firm also has offices here:


Rainbow Industrial Center
2045 Niagara Falls Blvd · Suite 16
Niagara Falls, NY 14304
716-298-4104

tiny dancer

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Aug 12, 2002, 1:28:04 PM8/12/02
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<satu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know a good bankruptcy attorney? I hear this guy's good,
> anyone know anything about him?
>
> Jeffrey Freedman, Esq.
> 622 Liberty Building
> Buffalo, New York 14202
> (716) 856-7091

Too many blow jobs??

td

satu...@yahoo.com

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Aug 12, 2002, 1:45:15 PM8/12/02
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Yes, Tiny, that must be it.

Every9man

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Aug 12, 2002, 3:56:26 PM8/12/02
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>From: satu...@yahoo.com

>Does anyone know a good bankruptcy attorney? I hear this guy's good,
>anyone know anything about him?
>
>Jeffrey Freedman, Esq.
> 622 Liberty Building
> Buffalo, New York 14202
> (716) 856-7091
>
>--
>Amazing number opf documents in a bankruptcy filing 9615XXX
>

Yep, I know him well, from school. Shall I write to him to see what kind of
information that might be private about who knows the hell who, you are posting
to keep Jason out of trouble.

Lesse, sharon uses Jason to do her dirty work, Jason uses Sat.
Jason is now not only an abuser of chidren but a craven coward .

Barbara

strains of High Noon in the background.

Every9man

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Aug 12, 2002, 3:57:54 PM8/12/02
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Amazing who you know when you go to school at Colgate.

Barbara

satu...@yahoo.com

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Aug 12, 2002, 4:32:26 PM8/12/02
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Now whatever are you talking about? When you speak with him make sure
you ask how he's doing? I would like to think that a perspective
attorney is doing well in his practice. I have no idea what else you
could have gathered from my post.

"There are three kinds of people in the world. There are wolves and there are sheep. And then there are those who protect the sheep from the wolves..."

Alan Hope

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Aug 12, 2002, 6:41:26 PM8/12/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Every9man said:

>>From: satu...@yahoo.com

>>Does anyone know a good bankruptcy attorney? I hear this guy's good,
>>anyone know anything about him?

>>Jeffrey Freedman, Esq.
>> 622 Liberty Building
>> Buffalo, New York 14202
>> (716) 856-7091

>Yep, I know him well, from school. Shall I write to him to see what kind of


>information that might be private about who knows the hell who, you are posting
>to keep Jason out of trouble.

It's too late to keep Jason out of trouble. Jason is dead, and I
killed him. The pall-bearers we see here would do better to heed
Claudius' words: "All that lives must die, passing through Nature to
eternity".

I feel for them, I really do, because I know what it's like to lose a
good stooge, sorry friend, through his own stupidity. No wait, I
don''t actually know that at all, because my friends are all too
bright, vivacious and clever, and I have no need of stooges, because I
do all my own work, ask Jason Pope.

Oh no wait ... you can't, can you.

Shaz is fucked-up for obvious reasons. Imagine having to train up a
new circus dog from scratch. Satujinn is fucked up because ... who the
fuck knows? He was no friend of Pope's.

I think he hates for me to be the Daddy. He'd love to be the Daddy,
but he hasn't got the stuff.

What you see above is his attempt to pass one sort of stuff off as
another sort of stuff.

If he's a man, he'll come on here and post counter-post as it's meant
to be done. He'll get on just as well as his talents allow.

If he's a slithering fucking pussy sewer-rat, on the other hand, he'll
go on thinking this sort of stuff is a point in his favour, and be
encouraged to post more of it. At which point my experienced friends
and I will rip him a new asshole, fuck him in it, pull it over his
head and send him UPS to Hell, or to Sharon, whichever is closer.

I hope he's reading this, closely. If he's playing games, a word of
warning: I'm not.


--
AH

shar...@mindspring.com

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Aug 12, 2002, 11:00:21 PM8/12/02
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Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in message
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You're drunk, aren't you?

Satujinn

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Aug 12, 2002, 11:34:36 PM8/12/02
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Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<m4eglu4l1o018jf14...@4ax.com>...
> Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Every9man said:
>
> >>From: satu...@yahoo.com
>
Satujinn is fucked up because ... who the
> fuck knows? He was no friend of Pope's.
>
> I think he hates for me to be the Daddy. He'd love to be the Daddy,
> but he hasn't got the stuff.
>
> What you see above is his attempt to pass one sort of stuff off as
> another sort of stuff.
>
> If he's a man, he'll come on here and post counter-post as it's meant
> to be done. He'll get on just as well as his talents allow.

To what end. YOu've been proven a yellow bellied coward when you
refused to apologize to Steve. You were called on it, you saw the
proof, you went back on your word of honor, you have no value. I can
post till the cows come home, and it will do no good with you, because
you are a coward. You have no honor.

You are dismissed.


>
> If he's a slithering fucking pussy sewer-rat, on the other hand, he'll
> go on thinking this sort of stuff is a point in his favour, and be
> encouraged to post more of it. At which point my experienced friends
> and I will rip him a new asshole, fuck him in it, pull it over his
> head and send him UPS to Hell, or to Sharon, whichever is closer.
>
> I hope he's reading this, closely. If he's playing games, a word of
> warning: I'm not.

PS, this might have worked back in highschool, but now it's barely
clever. Go bait some other fish coward

Ranger00089

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Aug 13, 2002, 12:06:56 AM8/13/02
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Satujin wrote;

>To what end. YOu've been proven a yellow bellied coward when you
>refused to apologize to Steve. You were called on it, you saw the
>proof, you went back on your word of honor, you have no value. I can
>post till the cows come home, and it will do no good with you, because
>you are a coward. You have no honor.

Exactly. This is the second time I have proven Alan to be a liar and a fool. He
is apparently too ignorant to know when to leave well enough alone. He
threatens like a little girl, while crying all the time. He throws words like
coward around as if he would ever know what courage was.
And where are the people here who scream about honesty and integrity. The
ones who challenged me on my statements and defended Alan? Why wont they admit
Alan lied and then refused to apologize to me? Cant they see he has no honor at
all?


Steve, SFC/US Army

spo...@petitmorte.net

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Aug 13, 2002, 12:34:02 AM8/13/02
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<shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in
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> You're drunk, aren't you?

You meant to follow-up to one of Nan's posts, didn't you?

--
Amazing
Thing growing
Just waiting for the juice to flow

http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs

Satujinn

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Aug 13, 2002, 12:54:04 AM8/13/02
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Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<m4eglu4l1o018jf14...@4ax.com>...

>

> It's too late to keep Jason out of trouble. Jason is dead, and I
> killed him. The pall-bearers we see here would do better to heed
> Claudius' words: "All that

MY GOD ALAN! I just reread this. YOU KILLED HIM!!! I wondered why I
couldn't get in touch with him. He's been missing for days now.

If your joking I hope you know how to get a hold of him. You might
have to prove he's alive... If he is.

> I feel for them, I really do, because I know what it's like to lose a
> good stooge, sorry friend, through his own stupidity. No wait, I
> don''t actually know that at all, because my friends are all too
> bright, vivacious and clever, and I have no need of stooges, because I
> do all my own work, ask Jason Pope.

I guess we can't now that you've killed him.

>
> Oh no wait ... you can't, can you.

How did you do it ALAN?

>
> Shaz is fucked-up for obvious reasons. Imagine having to train up a
> new circus dog from scratch. Satujinn is fucked up because ... who the
> fuck knows? He was no friend of Pope's.
>
> I think he hates for me to be the Daddy. He'd love to be the Daddy,
> but he hasn't got the stuff.
>
> What you see above is his attempt to pass one sort of stuff off as
> another sort of stuff.
>
> If he's a man, he'll come on here and post counter-post as it's meant
> to be done. He'll get on just as well as his talents allow.
>
> If he's a slithering fucking pussy sewer-rat, on the other hand, he'll
> go on thinking this sort of stuff is a point in his favour, and be
> encouraged to post more of it. At which point my experienced friends
> and I will rip him a new asshole, fuck him in it, pull it over his
> head and send him UPS to Hell, or to Sharon, whichever is closer.
>
> I hope he's reading this, closely. If he's playing games, a word of
> warning: I'm not.

Well that is obvious now. May god have mercy on your soul. I guess
it was only a matter of time before some one here went from talking
about killers and actually became one. DAmn, this is scary.

mothra...@hotmail.com

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Aug 13, 2002, 9:08:00 AM8/13/02
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<snip of Steve and Satty's giggling high-fives while they receive
simultaneous $5 blowjobs from Satty's favorite crack-whore>

Boys! Come over here right now--I see you there, hiding behind the
punch bowl!

So you tripped up Uncle Alan on his own flaming sword of vengeance, and
you got a good giggle out of it. Uncle Alan wants me to tell you that
he's fine but not to touch his sword again--it's too heavy and sharp for
you to play with.

<god, I wish everyone would stop laughing at these two--it only
encourages them>

Alan, PLEASE don't laugh at them when they pull this stuff--they really
could have hurt themselves on that thing.

Now boys, do you remember why your cousin Jason wasn't invited to the
party?

That's right, because he can't behave himself when he's around the
grownups. You were allowed to come--we even set up a special children's
table and hired a clown to make balloon poodles for you and
everything--on the understanding that you would behave yourselves.

Satty!!! Pull your pants up THIS INSTANT.

Okay. That's it. I'm calling Grandma. I *am not* going to miss this
party just because you two can't sit still for ten minutes and play with
your nice balloon poodles. No, not that Grandma--don't you see her over
there? Drinking White Russians out of Uncle Alan's shoe? I'm going to
call Granny Po and see if I can drop you off with her.

I don't *care* that she smells funny--you should have thought of that
before you decided to act like such babies. I really thought you were
big enough to be here--I'm so disappointed in you.

...

Granny Po says to bring you right over--she's lonesome and glad to have
you. She's got popcorn and she's going to rent you Stuart Little and
Blue's Clues--isn't that nice of her? You may stay up till nine, but
then I want my little cowboys tucked in nice and cozy, and I'll come
pick you up in the morning, in time for your big-boy karate lessons.

I'll be right back--save me some champagne!

Martha

Mothra

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Aug 13, 2002, 9:09:32 AM8/13/02
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A for effort, C- for execution. You're showing some improvement, Satty.
Don't give up!

Martha

Alan Hope

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Aug 13, 2002, 1:05:58 PM8/13/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, <shar...@mindspring.com>
said:

>You're drunk, aren't you?

Killer wit, babe. Where do you get them?


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Aug 13, 2002, 1:05:59 PM8/13/02
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>Satujin wrote;

You're conveniently forgetting your own lies, Steve. You accused me of
posting four types of personal information. You've come up with one
example. That leaves three lies still standing.

And you have the nerve to talk about honour.


--
AH

satu...@yahoo.com

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Aug 13, 2002, 1:37:26 PM8/13/02
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In your own words you said you would apologize if he could find ONE
example. He did that. Don't try to change the rules.

Yes, it looks like I will have to buy agent to KF you.

--

Alan Hope

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Aug 13, 2002, 8:43:55 PM8/13/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, satu...@yahoo.com said:

>In your own words you said you would apologize if he could find ONE
>example. He did that. Don't try to change the rules.

You can't even fucking read, you moron. Find the post where I promise
an apology. Go to it.

Stupid illiterate cunt.


--
AH

Ranger00089

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Aug 13, 2002, 9:11:59 PM8/13/02
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Martha wrote;

><snip of Steve and Satty's giggling high-fives while they receive
>simultaneous $5 blowjobs from Satty's favorite crack-whore>
>

Beneath you Martha.

>So you tripped up Uncle Alan on his own flaming sword of vengeance, and
>you got a good giggle out of it. Uncle Alan wants me to tell you that
>he's fine but not to touch his sword again--it's too heavy and sharp for
>you to play with.

He cant handle it Martha. All that is required of him is to be a man and admit
he did some of the same things Jason did. It has been proven.

They are laughing at Alan and Barbara. Now you of course. I never expected this
attack out of you Martha.

>Alan, PLEASE don't laugh at them when they pull this stuff--they really
>could have hurt themselves on that thing.
>

Sorry, Alan hasn't the skill to hurt me.

>Now boys, do you remember why your cousin Jason wasn't invited to the
>party?

For doing what your cousin Sharonpo did?

>I really thought you were
>big enough to be here--I'm so disappointed in you.

I am truly sorry your defense of Alan has made you do this Martha. It is truly
beneath you, or at least the person I thought you were.


Steve, SFC/US Army

Ranger00089

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Aug 13, 2002, 9:15:06 PM8/13/02
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Alan;

>You're conveniently forgetting your own lies, Steve. You accused me of
>posting four types of personal information. You've come up with one
>example. That leaves three lies still standing.

2 of 4 are proven Alan. Your just too small of a man to admit it.

>And you have the nerve to talk about honour.
>
>
>--
>AH
>

LMFAO. You have no concept of honor. You lie to impress people, you start
trouble here because in the real world you have been proven a looser and a
coward over and over again. Your a vindictive small man Alan. Hardly worth a
fight, but, what the hell I am bored.


Steve, SFC/US Army

Alan Hope

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Aug 14, 2002, 3:17:13 PM8/14/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Ranger00089 said:

>I am truly sorry your defense of Alan has made you do this Martha. It is truly
>beneath you, or at least the person I thought you were.

Think what your defence of Jason Pope has done to the people who
thought you had good stuff, Steve. That's what you'll be left with
when your little spat with me has blown over. You announced to one and
all that a stalker was okay with you, and that we should be coming
down instead on the person who swept him into the gutter. That's what
people think of you now, Steve. At least, according to huge throngs of
people who've supported me in email -- Bwahahahaha!


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Aug 14, 2002, 3:17:14 PM8/14/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Ranger00089 said:

>Alan;

>>You're conveniently forgetting your own lies, Steve. You accused me of
>>posting four types of personal information. You've come up with one
>>example. That leaves three lies still standing.

>2 of 4 are proven Alan. Your just too small of a man to admit it.

One of four, Steve. Learn to fucking count.

>>And you have the nerve to talk about honour.

>LMFAO. You have no concept of honor. You lie to impress people, you start


>trouble here because in the real world you have been proven a looser and a
>coward over and over again. Your a vindictive small man Alan. Hardly worth a
>fight, but, what the hell I am bored.

You know nothing about me, asshole. Don't be entirely stupid. "Because
in the real world ..." -- have a word with yourself, for fuck's sake.
Do you have any idea what a stupid cunt you look?

I think you're miffed because I won the hearts of millions by *doing*
something while you sat on your duff doing fuck-all. All those bored
housewifes, ripe for the picking, but the tree was empty before you
could think of getting there, and I was running off down the lane with
all the harvest in my basket.

And Stevie-Come-Lately strikes out again.

And look at you now: Champion of the Late Jason Pope. Nice legacy to
saddle yourself with, Stevie-boy. The annals will record *that* beside
your name, as you and Satujinn stroll off, hand-in-hand, into the
Usenet sunset.

What a blunder you made.

>Steve, SFC/US Army

Chortle


--
AH

de...@cts.com

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Aug 14, 2002, 4:30:28 PM8/14/02
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=^.^= wrote in message <24ellugk10rpsrnif...@4ax.com>...
>What I understood from his post is that he didn't condone Jason's
>behavior at all.....( rl'ing and bringing family into this ng is the
>worst) and now you did the very same thing as Jason did and he was
>calling you on it. I'm appalled at the language you are using lately.
>I haven't read much of your posting but I think you should label it
>~This is a graphic nasty worded post~..and then we would be warned.

Oh for Pete's sake Nicki!! First of all this is unmoderated usenet, secondly
if you're not reading much of Allen's posts , how do know what kind of
language he's using? When people say that, I swear I believe they are reading
every word. Lastly, Jason POSTED here his wifes & children's names , birth
announcements personal details and on a website he directed us to. Jason
posts with his real name.That is not the same as RLing, hunting
down personal data , social security numbers, telephone numbers, addresses,
posts about an innocent child posted elsewhere, giving false info to LE and
Parliament and newspapers, and on and on. What Penny, Jason and Sharon did to
Jack Olsen and others is beneath contempt, despicable and unlawful!

desi


Lady Taker

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Aug 14, 2002, 4:37:46 PM8/14/02
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"=^.^=" <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:24ellugk10rpsrnif...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:17:13 +0200, Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote:

> What I understood from his post is that he didn't condone Jason's
> behavior at all.....( rl'ing and bringing family into this ng is the
> worst) and now you did the very same thing as Jason did and he was
> calling you on it. I'm appalled at the language you are using lately.
> I haven't read much of your posting but I think you should label it
> ~This is a graphic nasty worded post~..and then we would be warned.

*OR* you could just avoid the flame threads that you <cough> claim <cough>
to abhor so much. For someone who doesn't like this stuff, you sure on in
here slingin' it around, Miss Prig.

Volfie (or, better yet: if you want to never, ever read a naughty word,
avoid alt newsgroups, unmoderated lists, graffiti walls, novels and life)


Lady Taker

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Aug 14, 2002, 5:00:13 PM8/14/02
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"=^.^=" <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:h3gllucgu94atg0qq...@4ax.com...
<delusional, rambling, uninformed, nonsensical chatter snipped>

LOL. You are SUCH a cluck.

Volfie (I bet you lay about a baker's dozen a week, don't you?)


Lady Taker

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Aug 14, 2002, 5:11:17 PM8/14/02
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"=^.^=" <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cpgllugo7a8k675m4...@4ax.com...
> I get this newsgroup now.,.You bitc* and complain about you want to
> ..and I bitc* and complain about what I want to.

Yep, and when you finally grow up and they move you to the adult table, you
can even type the bad words with ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the letters.

Volfie (Do you think you didn't swear because you put a * in there?; LOL!)


de...@cts.com

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Aug 14, 2002, 6:38:34 PM8/14/02
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Oh for Pete's sake Nicki!! First of all this is unmoderated usenet, secondly
>>if you're not reading much of Allen's posts , how do know what kind of
>>language he's using? When people say that, I swear I believe they are
reading
>>every word. Lastly, Jason POSTED here his wifes & children's names , birth
>>announcements personal details and on a website he directed us to. Jason
>>posts with his real name.That is not the same as RLing, hunting
>>down personal data , social security numbers, telephone numbers, addresses,
>>posts about an innocent child posted elsewhere, giving false info to LE and
>>Parliament and newspapers, and on and on. What Penny, Jason and Sharon did
to
>>Jack Olsen and others is beneath contempt, despicable and unlawful!
>>
>>desi
>>
>I know your feelings but I wanted to tell Alan what I felt about the
>words he is using. Are you reading what he is saying to Steve..I
>don't know Steve and I hadn't noticed Steve's posts before but I did
>remember that he was military or retired military ( I forget which)
>and Alan is calling him the worst things. I said I hadn't read Alan
>before this last flame fest. I 've seen his name but he wasn't
>posting anything that interested me. I don't read every post on here.
>
>I know it is unmoderated desi..but if he can use vile nasty words to
>someone ..I feel that I can respond to those words. I don't know what
>Alan is capable of doing. His threats are awful and he may turn into
>another Jason before our eyes. I've been reading about elder
>anger..and he seems to fit the bill lately. I've seen his name around
>but I didn't ever see him using words like he has the last few days,
>If Alan were going after an author you liked instead of Steve..I am
>sure you would be appalled too. He has threatened Steve and gotten
>nasty...and you think that is ok? Nope...I don't get why that is
>different. He would real life Steve in a minute if he had the
>info..he has made that clear. He is a scary dude and I am glad he is
>far away
>
>nicki

I simply do not read things that offend or bother me! I read a bit of
Trawick's post and didn't bother with the rest. Same with other stuff. Don't
read them. I don't know what *elder anger* is, is it any different than
younger or midlle-aged anger?
Allen is fighting against the folks who RL, so you can't be serious that he
would do the same? I wouldn't get in the middle of their fight and it's
absolutely useless to complain. Nobody listens.

desi


de...@cts.com

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Aug 14, 2002, 7:47:36 PM8/14/02
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=^.^= wrote in message <3epllu8cl90uu29r4...@4ax.com>...
>I don't have any idea how old he is..but elder anger is when an
>elderly person goes ~postal~ and it is a symptom of dementia. They
>start swearing and saying things that they normally would never say.
>I don't know about Alan..his threats were pretty real-life sounding to
>me but you are right..I need to stop posting about his behavior.
>You're correct..no one listens but if I just read what he says and
>don't answer..he might think I agree with him :)

If anyone sounds crazy around here I'd say it was the nutzo Satjiin, but I
don't see you complaining about his horrid and obscene posts and he's a bud of
your pal Sharon (who can pretty foul herself) ! I'd say threatening to post
private information disturbs me more than a few obscenities. Posting private
information is absolutely despicable. Allen is defending that, so what's a
few cuss words. You may not like the words, but it's for your benefit and
everyone's benefit that some vermin are kicked out of here.

desi


Lady Taker

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Aug 14, 2002, 8:31:01 PM8/14/02
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"=^.^=" <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3epllu8cl90uu29r4...@4ax.com...

> You're correct..no one listens but if I just read what he says and
> don't answer..he might think I agree with him :)

So you think Alan signs on, types out a message, sends it, then sits back
and wrings his hands together while he thinks, "Oh my,. oh my, I hope
nicki8801 approves of my humble messages today?" Yeah, I'm sure he gives a
good shi... er....*bowel movement*.

Jesus. Whatta freakin' conceited cluck you are.

Volfie (Keyrist.)


Lady Taker

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Aug 14, 2002, 9:09:02 PM8/14/02
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"=^.^=" <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:isullu09lbc40frdh...@4ax.com...
> yea..well..he said there was a fan club line and I saw it was empty so
> I wanted to make sure I got in the correct line...

You eyesight is as faulty as your reasoning powers.

Volfie (I'd have that fixed if I were you.)


spo...@petitmorte.net

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Aug 14, 2002, 10:29:47 PM8/14/02
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=^.^= <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:24ellugk10rpsrnif...@4ax.com:


> What I understood from his post is that he didn't condone Jason's
> behavior at all.....( rl'ing and bringing family into this ng is the
> worst) and now you did the very same thing as Jason did and he was
> calling you on it. I'm appalled at the language you are using lately.
> I haven't read much of your posting but I think you should label it
> ~This is a graphic nasty worded post~..and then we would be warned.

You want child controls on Usenet because you are offended by language?

After that, what other stuff would you be looking to censor to fit *your*
preferences?

shar...@mindspring.com

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de...@petitmorte.net <de...@cts.com

> If anyone sounds crazy around here I'd say it was the nutzo Satjiin,
but I
> don't see you complaining about his horrid and obscene posts and he's
a bud of
> your pal Sharon (who can pretty foul herself) ! I'd say threatening
to post
> private information disturbs me more than a few obscenities. Posting
private
> information is absolutely despicable. Allen is defending that, so
what's a
> few cuss words. You may not like the words, but it's for your benefit
and
> everyone's benefit that some vermin are kicked out of here.
>
> desi


Desi, who decides who the vermin are? Martha, Barbara, and Volfie, and
you? Contrary to your notion, *I* choose who my buds are. That's not
your call. I am not foul, but it does not bother me to deal with people
on their own level.

Anal is defending only his own actions; there is no higher purpose, and
there is no noble cause. He threatened an ISP with a lawsuit, which used
to be grounds for kookdom, in which he had no legitimate interest other
than displaying the hubris of a rooster.

He's using extreme profanity because he cannot defend himself with civil
discourse.Why don't you ask him why he knows where Jason lives?


shar...@mindspring.com

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Lady Taker <Vol...@aol.comBV1> wrote in message
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Let me guess; you often feel gusts of wind swirling about your head,
right? That would be the clues being blown away. Duh...


>


shar...@mindspring.com

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<spo...@petitmorte.net>

> =^.^= <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:24ellugk10rpsrnif...@4ax.com:
>
>
> > What I understood from his post is that he didn't condone Jason's
> > behavior at all.....( rl'ing and bringing family into this ng is the
> > worst) and now you did the very same thing as Jason did and he was
> > calling you on it. I'm appalled at the language you are using
lately.
> > I haven't read much of your posting but I think you should label it
> > ~This is a graphic nasty worded post~..and then we would be warned.
>
> You want child controls on Usenet because you are offended by
language?
>
> After that, what other stuff would you be looking to censor to fit
*your*
> preferences?


Have you ever considered putting a brake on your stupidity? There are
people in this ng who need/want to talk to each other, and your
nattering is beyond boring.

FLAME THREAD

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"=^.^=" <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:17:13 +0200, Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote:
>
> What I understood from his post is that he didn't condone Jason's
> behavior at all.....( rl'ing and bringing family into this ng is the
> worst) and now you did the very same thing as Jason did and he was
> calling you on it. I'm appalled at the language you are using lately.
> I haven't read much of your posting but I think you should label it
> ~This is a graphic nasty worded post~..and then we would be warned.

Find a nice curse free group to play net nanny on. Better yet... USE YOUR
FUCKING KILLFILE

Michael


FLAME THREAD

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"=^.^=" <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I know your feelings but I wanted to tell Alan what I felt about the
> words he is using.

And so you did. What now? Another 300 posts whining about foul language in
posts that you're being forced to read at gunpoint?

Michael


FLAME THREAD

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"Lady Taker" <Vol...@aol.comBV1> wrote in message
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Shock therapy?

Michael


FLAME THREAD

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"=^.^=" <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
>
> This is going to shock you volfie..and I know you are NOT going to
> believe me but I go for days..I mean even weeks without hearing any
> swear words. In real life..surely..people don't speak to others like
> Alan is doing on this ng. I'm even getting confused by the words
> that Alan is calling Steve. I thought a cu*t was used in a feminine
> manner but Alan has used that several times in regards to Steve.
>
> I'm home from work today and I don't understand why he can say what he
> wants but if I complain about it..I'm doing something wrong.

Boo hoo hoo. Christ Nicki. You've said what you wanted and no one has
ordered you not to say it... over and over and over.

>
> I get this newsgroup now.,.You bitc* and complain about you want to
> ..and I bitc* and complain about what I want to.

You don't bitch. You whine.

Michael


FLAME THREAD

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"=^.^=" <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> I don't like seeing swear words typed..and the * 's make it medium
> acceptable.

What the fuck is "medium" acceptable? ROFL...

> I was trying to put it into a term that would sit well
> with you....and....now you are saying your adult table swears at
> dinner..so i made a good choice of words
>
> I was swearing BIG time..of course..The Boy had to get off of my
> monitor while I typed those words.

The boy is probably thinking as long as the silly bitch feeds him he'll
tolerate her.

Michael


Every9man

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>From: Alan Hope ah...@skynet.be

Sharon supports his position Alan, if that doesnt tell him something nothing
will.

Barbara

Ranger00089

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alan;

>Think what your defence of Jason Pope has done to the people who
>thought you had good stuff, Steve. That's what you'll be left with
>when your little spat with me has blown over. You announced to one and
>all that a stalker was okay with you, and that we should be coming
>down instead on the person who swept him into the gutter. That's what
>people think of you now, Steve. At least, according to huge throngs of
>people who've supported me in email -- Bwahahahaha!
>
>
>--
>AH
>

I knew you hard a hard time with reading comprehension allie. But know your
telling me other people here are afflicted with the same problem? Do you think
your lying about me and my stance on Jason will be believed by anyone that can
read and then understand what they read? You are such a simpleton. Pathetic
little girl you are.


Steve, SFC/US Army

Ranger00089

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Just wondering;

If Allie were to rl me, would you continue to defend him. Not just you Volfie.
Or would you defend me and condemn him? I condemned Jason for all that he did.
I jus condemn Alan for being a minor league Jason.


Steve, SFC/US Army

Ranger00089

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Nicki wrote;

> I'm even getting confused by the words
>that Alan is calling Steve. I thought a cu*t was used in a feminine
>manner but Alan has used that several times in regards to Steve.

Ive wondered about this myself. At first I thought it was a term of endearment,
his friends apparently call him that. Then I decided he was trying to hurt my
feelings, but that hasnt worked since the 4th grade. Then I began to wonder if
he was gay. I know several gay men who use the word towards each other and
other men. I started to discard this idea and then allie asked to to perform
oral sex on him. Now I am back to him being a gay man who really likes me. He
is confusing.


Steve, SFC/US Army

Ranger00089

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alan, the mathmatical moron wrote;

>You're conveniently forgetting your own lies, Steve. You accused me of
>posting four types of personal information. You've come up with one
>example. That leaves three lies still standing.

I have proven 2 allie. 2 of 4. I feel no need to search further as you have
proven you have no intent of keeping your word and apologizing. You lie about
your lies and then you lie again.

>And you have the nerve to talk about honour.
>
>

>--
>AH
>

You dont even know the meaning of the word. You are a proven, known liar. And a
liar such as you has no honor at all.


Steve, SFC/US Army

Ranger00089

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alan lied again;

>One of four, Steve. Learn to fucking count.

Lets see wife = 1 and Warwick =2. Yep I still know my guzintas.

>You know nothing about me, asshole. Don't be entirely stupid.

If I became entirely stupid would I dethrone you? Is that why you fear me?

>Do you have any idea what a stupid cunt you look?

Again with the C word Al;lie. I am neither female or gay. Which are you?

>I think you're miffed because I won the hearts of millions by *doing*
>something

Millions, or 5?

>All those bored
>housewifes, ripe for the picking, but the tree was empty before you
>could think of getting there, and I was running off down the lane with
>all the harvest in my basket.

So you are referring to your female friends here as bored housewifes? Do they
mind your insulting them Allie? They are your harvest? You are an abysmal
friend.

>And look at you now: Champion of the Late Jason Pope. Nice legacy to
>saddle yourself with, Stevie-boy.

Sorry but this is another lie you are desperately trying to pass off as a
truth. I despise Jason as much or more than I despise you.

>What a blunder you made.
>

We will see allie. We all know the truth about you and me. Of course I have
never defended Jason, a simple google search will show that to you and any
others who doubt me.

You just keep on lying. Sad sad little man.


Steve, SFC/US Army

de...@cts.com

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Desi said...

>>>
>>If anyone sounds crazy around here I'd say it was the nutzo Satjiin, but I
>>don't see you complaining about his horrid and obscene posts and he's a bud
of
>>your pal Sharon (who can pretty foul herself) ! I'd say threatening to post
>>private information disturbs me more than a few obscenities. Posting private
>>information is absolutely despicable. Allen is defending that, so what's a
>>few cuss words. You may not like the words, but it's for your benefit and
>>everyone's benefit that some vermin are kicked out of here.
>>
>>desi
>>
>I missed how he got Jason booted but I won't miss Jason's postings.
>I see where he took the credit for it but what did he do?

~~I don't know. Ask Allen. Jason after years of abusing and cyber-stalking
folks gets karma, imo. Just plain ol' karma is more than likely what
happened.


Complain to
>his server? I'm constantly forwarding the spams to my server and they
>don't do anything about them. So..do they pull your account and then
>you can't post ...ever again?

~~Spam is not the issue and cyber-stalking is. Do you know what
cyber-stalking is? I had a great website book
marked, it think it was Cyberangels, for some good info.
A good example is your pal Sharon, she has stalked Martha for years. What
Sharon doesn't realize is it's a dead issue here for all, 'cept Sharon. She's
still beating a dead horse to the ground and herself into oblivion, yet she
flounces and pontificates, threatens and pontificates.
Jason has done RL damage to real people, Jack, Sondra, countless others . You
can't compare that to cuss words and words. When you take it upon yourself to
go to a search on homes, spouses, work, children
and threaten innocent people...than you have gone too far. When you libel and
defame a person, it has gone too far, that's where Jason and Sharon crossed
the line.
>
>That sat guy scares me too but he lives in the same state as I do..so
>I don't plan on saying anything about him;)

~~Huh, do you think because someone lives far away they can't stalk you or
find your RL info? It's ok to razz Allen, but not Satujiin because he lives
in the same state as you? Volfie didn't do anything, but have a razor sharp
wit, and now he/she is the target? For what? He/She did absolutely nothing,
and now Sharon posts *it's public info*? Fuck that. Would you like that to
happen to you? Wake up and smell the coffee, it's your friend Sharon who is
doing this, first with Penny, then Jason and her newest pet is Satujiin.
Watch your back
all. If you are afraid of him, perhaps it would be a good thing that a
stalker is removed from usenet. How many others are afraid? No one can
remove an innocent person, their posts speak for themselves and there are LE
here and lurkers with power. And they will take action.

desi


Isn't spooge really going
>after him....thats another scary thing going on. I think spooge is
>trying to real life him for sure. He is posting everything but his
>phone number and I think he is looking for that.
>
>Brother..this place is going to the dogz


Cujo

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<shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in
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>
> de...@petitmorte.net <de...@cts.com
>> If anyone sounds crazy around here I'd say it was the nutzo Satjiin,
> but I
>> don't see you complaining about his horrid and obscene posts and he's
> a bud of
>> your pal Sharon (who can pretty foul herself) ! I'd say threatening
> to post
>> private information disturbs me more than a few obscenities. Posting
> private
>> information is absolutely despicable. Allen is defending that, so
> what's a
>> few cuss words. You may not like the words, but it's for your benefit
> and
>> everyone's benefit that some vermin are kicked out of here.
>>
>> desi
>
>
> Desi, who decides who the vermin are? Martha, Barbara, and Volfie, and
> you?

Apparently virgin.net does. It's their network.

> Contrary to your notion, *I* choose who my buds are.

And most of your choices seem to have vanished. What a coincidence.

> That's not your call. I am not foul,

Wrong again.

> but it does not bother me to deal with
> people on their own level.

As long as they're willing to do your dirty work.



> Anal is defending only his own actions; there is no higher purpose,
> and there is no noble cause. He threatened an ISP with a lawsuit,
> which used to be grounds for kookdom, in which he had no legitimate
> interest other than displaying the hubris of a rooster.

No, from what I saw he alerted an ISP about possible abuse and warned
them about their possible liability should thay allow that abuse to
continue. Here's the bad news, he wasn't the only one that complained.

> He's using extreme profanity because he cannot defend himself with
> civil discourse.Why don't you ask him why he knows where Jason lives?

Awwwww, he fucking cursed? WOW! That makes him automatically wrong in
PoHo's world.

Knowing where he lives and publishing it for all to see are two
different things. But you don't really care about the distinction,
you're simply running out of arguments.

While we're at it, where's that evidence I'm IngaS, shared an AOL
account or ever used an AOL account? DOOP?

--
There wouldn't be as many satisfied ladies around, if I
hadn't ditched them long ago! - Edmo in a moment of candor.
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
Winner of the August, 2000 HL&S award. Hail Petitmorte!
http://www.petitmorte.net/cujo/cujcert.jpg
Fanatic Legion # 555-PLNTY
Rank: Colonel
Motto: "ABUNDANCE!"

Cujo

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<shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in
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Translation: This has nothing to do with anything, but I need new
friends.

I'll fix the fucking header, Mommy. Happy?

PS: Wipe yourself when you're finished.

Cujo

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range...@aol.comnojunk (Ranger00089) wrote in
news:20020815014115...@mb-fj.aol.com:

> Just wondering;
>
> If Allie were to rl me, would you continue to defend him. Not just you
> Volfie. Or would you defend me and condemn him?

Strawman noted.

> I condemned Jason for
> all that he did. I jus condemn Alan for being a minor league Jason.

Let's see if I can sum this up for you. You've blamed Alan for going RL
on Jason. So far all you claimed is that he named a town where JP
doesn't live, a place he doesn't work and the names of a wife and
children that he's posted *on this NG*. Excuse me, but that doesn't
sound like a heck of a lot. Other than being one of many who complained
about Jason's postings of late, you seem to have gotten sidetracked into
focusing on the one person who admits his actions on this NG.

Much as I admire your doggedness, perhaps you'd like to turn this rage
to some *real* fuckheads who are attempting to do far worse.

www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/abusive_isps_list.htm

http://www.psicounsel.com/usedeb.html <- work from the bottom up on this
kook.

If you're looking for a cause, those asswipes are far more worthy.

HTH!

Cujo

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range...@aol.comnojunk (Ranger00089) wrote in
news:20020815013827...@mb-fj.aol.com:

> alan;
>
>>Think what your defence of Jason Pope has done to the people who
>>thought you had good stuff, Steve. That's what you'll be left with
>>when your little spat with me has blown over. You announced to one and
>>all that a stalker was okay with you, and that we should be coming
>>down instead on the person who swept him into the gutter. That's what
>>people think of you now, Steve. At least, according to huge throngs of
>>people who've supported me in email -- Bwahahahaha!

> I knew you hard a hard time with reading comprehension allie. But


> know your
> telling me other people here are afflicted with the same problem? Do
> you think your lying about me and my stance on Jason will be believed
> by anyone that can read and then understand what they read? You are
> such a simpleton. Pathetic little girl you are.

Ad hominems and strawmen noted. You really ought to be more gracious when
you lose an argument.

Cujo

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range...@aol.comnojunk (Ranger00089) wrote in
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> Nicki wrote;
>
>> I'm even getting confused by the words
>>that Alan is calling Steve. I thought a cu*t was used in a feminine
>>manner but Alan has used that several times in regards to Steve.
>
> Ive wondered about this myself. At first I thought it was a term of
> endearment, his friends apparently call him that.

Read a little of Irvine Welsh's stories.

> Then I decided he
> was trying to hurt my feelings, but that hasnt worked since the 4th
> grade.

Admission of being a sociopath noted.

> Then I began to wonder if he was gay. I know several gay men
> who use the word towards each other and other men.

OOOOHHHH! Is this some of that "Don't ask, don't tell" policy coming out
of the closet, you little devil?

> I started to
> discard this idea and then allie asked to to perform oral sex on him.
> Now I am back to him being a gay man who really likes me. He is
> confusing.

Dammit! Another smoked Irony Meter! I sincerely hope you are a desk
jockey. I'd hate to think of what would happen to any soldiers you'd
lead into battle. I guess this is why fragging NCO's and officers
happened in Viet Nam.

Lady Taker

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"Ranger00089" <range...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> Just wondering;
>
> If Allie were to rl me, would you continue to defend him.

No, I wouldn't. Come to think of it, though, he hasn't done that to anyone
no matter what you are chosing to believe to further your argument, Steve.

> Or would you defend me and condemn him?

I think I've just answered that.

> I condemned Jason for all that he did.

But it was all sound and fury signifying nothing. Words never stopped him.
Alan did.

> I jus condemn Alan for being a minor league Jason.

Not even close, Steve. You have a bug up your ass about Alan and something
ELSE and you're finding this is a good way to give it some air. It's not
the same thing and, trust me, the main players know it. I think you know
it, too. If you're not sure, look at who's backing you up on in ATC. That
should tell you all you need to know.

Volfie


low...@mindspring.com

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Alan Hope wrote:

> I think you're miffed because I won the hearts of millions by *doing*

> something while you sat on your duff doing fuck-all. All those bored


> housewifes, ripe for the picking, but the tree was empty before you
> could think of getting there, and I was running off down the lane with
> all the harvest in my basket.

"Harvest" indicates you have something of value in your basket. These old girls
are fetid and overripe. Maybe you haven't been around long enough to know. Plenty
before you have left fingerprints on this fruit- Eric Saegar, George Byrd, Howard
M.. . . or did you think you were the first to pluck 'em? Is that what they told
you when they were swooning over you? Hahahaha.

Sorry. Only old Olympians get their virginity back.

Ranger00089

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cujo wrote;

>Ad hominems and strawmen noted. You really ought to be more gracious when
>you lose an argument.
>

LMFAO. What ad hominems? And if I loose an argument I will be very gracious in
my defeat.


Steve, SFC/US Army

Cujo

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range...@aol.comnojunk (Ranger00089) wrote in
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After snipping out my examples, you then make your "argument".

You're an idiot if you think this will win you any points.

HTH!

mothra...@hotmail.com

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=^.^= wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:38:34 -0700, "de...@petitmorte.net"
> <de...@cts.com> wrote:
>
> >Oh for Pete's sake Nicki!! First of all this is unmoderated usenet, secondly
> >>>if you're not reading much of Allen's posts , how do know what kind of
> >>>language he's using? When people say that, I swear I believe they are
> >reading
> >>>every word. Lastly, Jason POSTED here his wifes & children's names , birth
> >>>announcements personal details and on a website he directed us to. Jason
> >>>posts with his real name.That is not the same as RLing, hunting
> >>>down personal data , social security numbers, telephone numbers, addresses,
> >>>posts about an innocent child posted elsewhere, giving false info to LE and
> >>>Parliament and newspapers, and on and on. What Penny, Jason and Sharon did
> >to
> >>>Jack Olsen and others is beneath contempt, despicable and unlawful!
> >>>
> >>>desi

> >>>
> >>I know your feelings but I wanted to tell Alan what I felt about the
> >>words he is using. Are you reading what he is saying to Steve..I
> >>don't know Steve and I hadn't noticed Steve's posts before but I did
> >>remember that he was military or retired military ( I forget which)
> >>and Alan is calling him the worst things. I said I hadn't read Alan
> >>before this last flame fest. I 've seen his name but he wasn't
> >>posting anything that interested me. I don't read every post on here.
> >>
> >>I know it is unmoderated desi..but if he can use vile nasty words to
> >>someone ..I feel that I can respond to those words. I don't know what
> >>Alan is capable of doing. His threats are awful and he may turn into
> >>another Jason before our eyes. I've been reading about elder
> >>anger..and he seems to fit the bill lately. I've seen his name around
> >>but I didn't ever see him using words like he has the last few days,
> >>If Alan were going after an author you liked instead of Steve..I am
> >>sure you would be appalled too. He has threatened Steve and gotten
> >>nasty...and you think that is ok? Nope...I don't get why that is
> >>different. He would real life Steve in a minute if he had the
> >>info..he has made that clear. He is a scary dude and I am glad he is
> >>far away
> >>
> >>nicki
> >
> >I simply do not read things that offend or bother me! I read a bit of
> >Trawick's post and didn't bother with the rest. Same with other stuff. Don't
> >read them. I don't know what *elder anger* is, is it any different than
> >younger or midlle-aged anger?
> >Allen is fighting against the folks who RL, so you can't be serious that he
> >would do the same? I wouldn't get in the middle of their fight and it's
> >absolutely useless to complain. Nobody listens.
> >
> >desi
> >
>
> I don't have any idea how old he is..but elder anger is when an
> elderly person goes ~postal~ and it is a symptom of dementia. They
> start swearing and saying things that they normally would never say.
> I don't know about Alan..his threats were pretty real-life sounding to
> me but you are right..I need to stop posting about his behavior.

> You're correct..no one listens but if I just read what he says and
> don't answer..he might think I agree with him :)

I guess you agreed with all the RLing posts Jason and Sharon have made,
too, then, because I don't recall your speaking up against them?

Martha

mothra...@hotmail.com

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=^.^= wrote:
> You have selective memory....
>
> I have said NUMEROUS times in this newsgroup that I don't agree with
> everything that jason and Sharon have done. NUMEROUS times..I have
> said that. WE ALL have said that real life-ing someone is awful.
> I've spoken up but you don't listen. You are the typical me-me. You
> only read or retain what you want to.
>
> I DON"T like how that spooge guy has brought that sat's posts here
> from alt.ho's and acts like he is ready to post his name BUT does
> that matter? I DON"T like how that spooge guy has called some poster
> named Marie a crack head and animal abuser..BUT does that matter? I
> think dog3 threatened to real life Maggie one time..BUTdoes that
> matter? Alan has threatened the army guy and it sounded like he was
> going to try to real life him...BUT does that matter? You are
> insisting that Marie is Mary Headman..( isn't that mary's real name?
> BUT does that matter? The spooge guy calls everyone a liar..he has
> been going after debby and choc because they complain about his nasty
> posting habits..But does that matter?
>
> NO ....I don't see YOU complaining about all of those offences
> martha..how come?

Because I agree with every syllable Spooge Darling Spooge posts.

>
> You guys must pop a lot of tums with all that hate that burns in your
> gut.

Hate? Oh, la! I don't know about anyone else, but I think this is
pleasurable--I don't hate anybody here: do you?

Martha

satu...@yahoo.com

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Figures.

>
>>
>> You guys must pop a lot of tums with all that hate that burns in
your
>> gut.
>
>Hate? Oh, la! I don't know about anyone else, but I think this is
>pleasurable--I don't hate anybody here: do you?
>
>Martha

--

"There are three kinds of people in the world. There are wolves and there are sheep. And then there are those who protect the sheep from the wolves..."

Alan Hope

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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, <shar...@mindspring.com>
said:

>He threatened an ISP with a lawsuit, which used
>to be grounds for kookdom, in which he had no legitimate interest other
>than displaying the hubris of a rooster.

Show where I threatened them with a lawsuit.


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Aug 15, 2002, 2:59:39 PM8/15/02
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>Nicki wrote;

You're giving me little pet-names and "wondering" about my sexual
orientation? How ... odd. Why don't you just send me some flowers and
a clear declaration of your intentions, and I'll put you out of your
state of <swoon> "confusion"?


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Aug 15, 2002, 3:00:04 PM8/15/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Ranger00089 said:

>alan, the mathmatical moron wrote;

>>You're conveniently forgetting your own lies, Steve. You accused me of
>>posting four types of personal information. You've come up with one
>>example. That leaves three lies still standing.

>I have proven 2 allie. 2 of 4.

Only one fell down because the alleged home town is not a home town.
That's considered a big fall-down point, in evidentiary terms. As if
the bloodstained knife the police found turned out to be a cheese
stick.

>I feel no need to search further as you have
>proven you have no intent of keeping your word and apologizing. You lie about
>your lies and then you lie again.

In other words, you have no evidence for your wild and ill-considered
accusations. That much is clear, or you would have posted it.

Does it not bother you to describe someone as a liar when you're so
deeply engaged in lying yourself? You must know no evidence of your
claims exists, or your friends would have fed it to you by now. Three
of your lies remain undealt with, Steve. What are you going to do
about it?

>>And you have the nerve to talk about honour.

>You dont even know the meaning of the word. You are a proven, known liar. And a


>liar such as you has no honor at all.

You've lied about three points in your accusation against me, and
today you added a fourth lie. Is it not a matter of personal concern
to you that your own honour is so exposed? Say what you like about me,
Steve. You now have four lies about me to your name. Four accusations
for which you have no evidence.

Calling me a liar doesn't wash that away, Steve. It's something you
have to deal with yourself. A lie told about a liar is still a lie.
And you have four on your sheet. Why don't you address those, since
they are, after all, of more personal and immediate concern to you?


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Ranger00089 said:

>alan;

>>Think what your defence of Jason Pope has done to the people who
>>thought you had good stuff, Steve. That's what you'll be left with
>>when your little spat with me has blown over. You announced to one and
>>all that a stalker was okay with you, and that we should be coming
>>down instead on the person who swept him into the gutter. That's what
>>people think of you now, Steve. At least, according to huge throngs of
>>people who've supported me in email -- Bwahahahaha!

> I knew you hard a hard time with reading comprehension allie. But know your


>telling me other people here are afflicted with the same problem? Do you think
>your lying about me and my stance on Jason will be believed by anyone that can
>read and then understand what they read? You are such a simpleton. Pathetic
>little girl you are.

You must be confusing me with someone who gives a fuck how people
regard you.

But since you asked, two things keep springing up for attention and
just won't go away:

1. How come your first reaction to Pope's removal, and the only one
you've stuck with, was to attack the person who helped bring it about?
You claim to "despise" him. Yet you attack his removal with tooth and
nail, and turn on all your former friends who defend me. What's up
with that, Steve?

2. You're very keen on describing other people as "liars". You
volunteered the accusation that I had posted four types of personal
information relating to Jason Pope. So far you've provided evidence
(or someone else did, actually) of one of those. Three parts of your
allegation remain unsubstantiated, but you refuse to address that
matter. What's more, you add another to the list: that I brought
private information provided to me in email to this newsgroup. You
have no idea if I've done that, and indeed it's hard to imagine how
you *could* know, unless you sent the email information yourself. So
the question that must be preying on people's minds, Steve, is
twofold: How can you accuse someone else of lying about a subject you
yourself are currently engaged in lying about; and, why don't you
answer the first part of this question, which has been asked several
times. To put it another way: where is your evidence that I posted
Jason Pope's place of employment, his home town, and his children's
names? And furthermore, where is your evidence I brought private
emails to this ng?

If you can stand still long enough to look those two questions in the
face, I'm sure your former supporters will have cause to review their
recent disappointment in you. I can't say for certain, of course. That
rather depends on what your answer might be.


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Aug 15, 2002, 3:00:00 PM8/15/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Ranger00089 said:

>Again with the C word Al;lie. I am neither female or gay. Which are you?

My use of "cunt" is phatic. You mustn't start checking yourself after
showering for labia.


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Aug 15, 2002, 8:16:19 PM8/15/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, =^.^=
<nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> said:

>Alan has threatened the army guy and it sounded like he was
>going to try to real life him.

Back this one up, cat-face. Go on. I know you can do it. You wouldn't
say it otherwise, would you?


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Aug 15, 2002, 8:16:17 PM8/15/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Ranger00089 said:

>Just wondering;

>If Allie were to rl me, would you continue to defend him. Not just you Volfie.
>Or would you defend me and condemn him?

I've been wondering too. If I TOSsed Jason Pope, would you defend him
and condemn me?

Course you would. That's all you've been doing for the last week.

Well done, Steve. That's what you'll be known for from now on. You and
Satujinn and Shazza.

Nice friends you have there.


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Aug 15, 2002, 8:16:21 PM8/15/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Ranger00089 said:

>cujo wrote;

Yes. You'll "leave me alone because you're bored". Like you did last
time I wiped the floor with you.


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Aug 15, 2002, 8:16:20 PM8/15/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Cujo said:

>range...@aol.comnojunk (Ranger00089) wrote in
>news:20020815014753...@mb-fj.aol.com:

>> Nicki wrote;

>>> I'm even getting confused by the words
>>>that Alan is calling Steve. I thought a cu*t was used in a feminine
>>>manner but Alan has used that several times in regards to Steve.

>> Ive wondered about this myself. At first I thought it was a term of
>> endearment, his friends apparently call him that.

>Read a little of Irvine Welsh's stories.

Welsh is from Leith, outside Edinburgh. I'm from Glasgow. That's a
good fifty, fifty-two miles away. No way his culture has anything to
do with mine.

He's also younger than me, the bastard. Man, I'm older than Elvis now.
Late-period Elvis, at that.


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Aug 15, 2002, 8:16:22 PM8/15/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, low...@mindspring.com
said:

>Alan Hope wrote:

Oh.


--
AH

formica63

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Aug 15, 2002, 8:51:55 PM8/15/02
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Sharon wrote:

> Desi, who decides who the vermin are? Martha, Barbara, and Volfie, and

> you? Contrary to your notion, *I* choose who my buds are. That's not
> your call. I am not foul, but it does not bother me to deal with people
> on their own level.
>


> Anal is defending only his own actions; there is no higher purpose, and

> there is no noble cause. He threatened an ISP with a lawsuit, which used


> to be grounds for kookdom, in which he had no legitimate interest other
> than displaying the hubris of a rooster.

This is not true. You seem mesmerised by the argot of usenet. So what if a
certain action "used to be grounds for kookdom"?

Reporting a gross abuse to an ISP is not "threatening a lawsuit," Sharon.

> He's using extreme profanity because he cannot defend himself with civil
> discourse.Why don't you ask him why he knows where Jason lives?

Your notion of civil discourse in the midst of the repellant abuse of Volfie
is vacuous.


Form.


Ranger00089

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Aug 15, 2002, 8:50:53 PM8/15/02
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Alan lied once more;

>I've been wondering too. If I TOSsed Jason Pope, would you defend him
>and condemn me?

At no point have I defended Jason. I have however condemned you for being
dishonest and lacking integrity and honor.

>Course you would. That's all you've been doing for the last week.

Another lie Alan. Is this all you have? Lies that no person will believe?

>Well done, Steve. That's what you'll be known for from now on. You and
>Satujinn and Shazza.

If I am known for that it would be only by you. Your opinion is slanted toward
vilifying me to save yourself. It is a lie, and everyone knows it.

>Nice friends you have there.
>
>
>--
>AH

My friends are in my real life. I have aquaintences here, some that I respect,
some I dont. You have yet to name any that I especially converse with.


Steve, SFC/US Army

Ranger00089

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Aug 15, 2002, 8:56:12 PM8/15/02
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cujo;

>Ad hominems and strawmen noted.

Steve;

>> LMFAO. What ad hominems? And if I loose an argument I will be very
>> gracious in my defeat.

Cujo:


>You're an idiot if you think this will win you any points.
>
>HTH!
>

Isnt that an ad hominem?


Steve, SFC/US Army

Ranger00089

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Aug 15, 2002, 8:57:25 PM8/15/02
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Alan:

>Yes. You'll "leave me alone because you're bored". Like you did last
>time I wiped the floor with you.
>
>
>--
>AH
>

You couldnt wipe your butt without help. You are a moron at the best of times,
a foll most of the time, a liar all of the time.


Steve, SFC/US Army

Ranger00089

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Aug 15, 2002, 9:04:50 PM8/15/02
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Alan;

>You must be confusing me with someone who gives a fuck how people
>regard you.

You are the one lying about my position re. Jason are you not? Why would you
do this if not in an effort to damage me? Must you always lie?

>1. How come your first reaction to Pope's removal, and the only one
>you've stuck with, was to attack the person who helped bring it about?
>You claim to "despise" him. Yet you attack his removal with tooth and
>nail, and turn on all your former friends who defend me. What's up
>with that, Steve?

Again a small error on your part Alan. I have never defended Jason. I have
asked why it is acceptable for you to post personal info about him here and
have him tosed, when the same acts by anyone else are condemned by all.
Of course you denied posting it, saying if I could prove ONE post, you would
apologize. I proved 2 and still you attack me with your petty name calling.

>hree parts of your
>allegation remain unsubstantiated, but you refuse to address that
>matter. What's more, you add another to the list: that I brought
>private information provided to me in email to this newsgroup.

Another lie alan? 2 Parts proven. No apology, so why would I waste any energy
on finding the other 2? Ill tel you what. If I spend time finding them, and
post them here, you will apologize to me and leave this group forever. Deal?

>Jason Pope's place of employment, his home town, and his children's

Hometown has been proven Alan. Stop lying.

>And furthermore, where is your evidence I brought private
>emails to this ng?

QWhere did I say this?

>That
>rather depends on what your answer might be.
>

You have my answers. You have had them for awhile now.


Steve, SFC/US Army

shar...@mindspring.com

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Aug 15, 2002, 10:38:24 PM8/15/02
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Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be>


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Pope+Warwick+author:ahope%40skynet.be&
hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=m5s9lu0h2uj4f4ofeui6iq125rqa8f02hh%404
ax.com&rnum=3

<quote>
>Should be interesting watching your great legal mind try to prove
>damages in this one.

No need, old son. The threat is enough, as it was for Dr. Laurence
Godfrey. ISPs know on which side their bread is buttered.

<snip>

one Jason Pope, a child abuser of the parish of Warwick
</quote>


spo...@petitmorte.net

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Aug 15, 2002, 10:34:25 PM8/15/02
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<shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:ajf7d9$ce2$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net:

>
> <spo...@petitmorte.net>
>
>> =^.^= <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:24ellugk10rpsrnif...@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>> > What I understood from his post is that he didn't condone Jason's
>> > behavior at all.....( rl'ing and bringing family into this ng is the
>> > worst) and now you did the very same thing as Jason did and he was
>> > calling you on it. I'm appalled at the language you are using
> lately.
>> > I haven't read much of your posting but I think you should label it
>> > ~This is a graphic nasty worded post~..and then we would be warned.
>>
>> You want child controls on Usenet because you are offended by
> language?
>>
>> After that, what other stuff would you be looking to censor to fit
> *your*
>> preferences?
>
>
> Have you ever considered putting a brake on your stupidity? There are
> people in this ng who need/want to talk to each other,

Usenet is an open discussion forum, dumb-cunt. Email is for talking.

You know that, you just had to have a little of my attention, didn't you?

Here: <spit>

Knock yourself out.


--
Amazing
Thing growing
Just waiting for the juice to flow

http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs

shar...@mindspring.com

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Aug 15, 2002, 11:45:00 PM8/15/02
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Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be


Alan,

You're desperate now, I see. You are trying to intimidate Steve by
accusing him of fraternizing with the enemy. That's pretty low, girly.

Steve observed that you were doing exactly what you had Jason TOSsed
for. That was his only point. You missed it; and now you're scurrying
around trying to save the mashed up face he gace you.

I agree with Steve's point; that doesn't make us buds, you dolt.

Whether or not the claque's brainwashing blitz will work remains to be
seen.


spo...@petitmorte.net

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Aug 15, 2002, 11:21:13 PM8/15/02
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Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in
news:nhgolu8bua3gsmn59...@4ax.com:

I think I detect a Nike Swoosh on the post you quoted. I've seen that
trademark on sweat socks at the sporting goods store.

spo...@petitmorte.net

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Aug 15, 2002, 11:28:11 PM8/15/02
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=^.^= <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:lugnlusc69dj10ts8...@4ax.com:

> I DON"T like how that spooge guy has brought that sat's posts here
> from alt.ho's and acts like he is ready to post his name BUT does
> that matter? I DON"T like how that spooge guy has called some poster
> named Marie a crack head and animal abuser..BUT does that matter? I

I have called Mary a CRACK WHORE and an ANIMAL DIDDLER. And I stand by
those words 279.9%.

> think dog3 threatened to real life Maggie one time..BUTdoes that

> matter? Alan has threatened the army guy and it sounded like he was


> going to try to real life him...BUT does that matter? You are

The fuck he did.

> insisting that Marie is Mary Headman..( isn't that mary's real name?
> BUT does that matter? The spooge guy calls everyone a liar..he has

I call people liars when they lie, Nicki. What the hell is wrong with
that?

> been going after debby and choc because they complain about his nasty
> posting habits..But does that matter?

I RESPONDED to their posts, Nicki. That is what happens on Usenet when
people make posts, especially when they post lies.



> NO ....I don't see YOU complaining about all of those offences
> martha..how come?

You haven't mentioned any offenses, you dumb twit.



> You guys must pop a lot of tums with all that hate that burns in your
> gut.

Nicki, we're having fun. The only folks throwing hissy-fits, and having
gastric disconfort are the idiots, like you, who insist on reading things
they don't like. Why Do You Do That To Yourself?

You can censor anyone you like by putting them in your killfile. You
*can't* censor anyone by telling them to stop posting their opinions.

Does that make sense to you, or should I try sign language next?

shar...@mindspring.com

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Aug 15, 2002, 11:56:12 PM8/15/02
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de...@petitmorte.net <de...@cts.com>

> I'd say threatening to post
> private information disturbs me more than a few obscenities. Posting
private
> information is absolutely despicable.
>
> desi

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Penny+author:desi%40cts.com&hl=en&lr=&
ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=3d05209c%240%2464798%24e2e8da3%40nntp.cts.com&rn
um=18


de...@petitmorte.net (de...@cts.com)
"Are you insane or just stupid. I brought your brother who
was charged with Murder 1 into it, not GMS, by posting your
sob story email pleas to me. Of course he's mentallly ill
now, do you have the same disease? Did he get life?"


spo...@petitmorte.net

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Aug 15, 2002, 11:29:52 PM8/15/02
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satu...@yahoo.com wrote in news:3d5bef97...@netnews.worldnet.att.net:

> On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:45:42 -0400, mothra...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>Because I agree with every syllable Spooge Darling Spooge posts.
>
> Figures.

Ahhh, the Green-Eyed Monster rears his ugly head.. or is that Mr. Wiggly in
your hand?

spo...@petitmorte.net

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Aug 15, 2002, 11:33:07 PM8/15/02
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Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in
news:hggolu46hhhqklku1...@4ax.com:

Nicki would never post an untruth. I feel confident that she will supply
unassailable rock solid proof.

Right after Santa Claus brings it to her house.

spo...@petitmorte.net

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Aug 15, 2002, 11:34:14 PM8/15/02
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Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in
news:lggoluoq0j2nmlful...@4ax.com:

But Elvis is cheating. He hasn't aged a day in the past 25 years...

Cujo

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Aug 16, 2002, 12:19:42 AM8/16/02
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range...@aol.comnojunk (Ranger00089) wrote in
news:20020815205612...@mb-bg.aol.com:

No, that's an opinion. Learn the difference.

--
There wouldn't be as many satisfied ladies around, if I
hadn't ditched them long ago! - Edmo in a moment of candor.
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
Winner of the August, 2000 HL&S award. Hail Petitmorte!
http://www.petitmorte.net/cujo/cujcert.jpg
Fanatic Legion # 555-PLNTY
Rank: Colonel
Motto: "ABUNDANCE!"

Every9man

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Aug 16, 2002, 12:25:48 AM8/16/02
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>From: Cujo cu...@petitmorte.net

>range...@aol.comnojunk (Ranger00089) wrote in
>news:20020815092246...@mb-cl.aol.com:

>
>> cujo wrote;
>>
>>>Ad hominems and strawmen noted. You really ought to be more gracious
>>>when you lose an argument.
>>>
>>

>> LMFAO. What ad hominems? And if I loose an argument I will be very
>> gracious in my defeat.
>

>After snipping out my examples, you then make your "argument".


>
>You're an idiot if you think this will win you any points.
>
>HTH!

Yo Steve,

Are "Simpleton "and "pathetic little girl" ad hominems?

No *lying* now, and no fair looking in the dictionary.

Barbara

Every9man

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Aug 16, 2002, 12:32:46 AM8/16/02
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>From: range...@aol.comnojunk (Ranger00089)

>Alan;
>
>>You must be confusing me with someone who gives a fuck how people
>>regard you.
>
>You are the one lying about my position re. Jason are you not? Why would
>you
>do this if not in an effort to damage me? Must you always lie?
>
>>1. How come your first reaction to Pope's removal, and the only one
>>you've stuck with, was to attack the person who helped bring it about?
>>You claim to "despise" him. Yet you attack his removal with tooth and
>>nail, and turn on all your former friends who defend me. What's up
>>with that, Steve?
>
>Again a small error on your part Alan. I have never defended Jason. I have
>asked why it is acceptable for you to post personal info about him here
>and
>have him tosed, when the same acts by anyone else are condemned by all.
> Of course you denied posting it, saying if I could prove ONE post, you
>would
>apologize. I proved 2 and still you attack me with your petty name calling.
>

There's where you are wrong Steve. If you can equate Alan reporting Jason's
abuse to his ISP with Jason posting the names, addresses, phone numbers,
libels, of other posters you are in effect defending Jason.

Barbara

de...@cts.com

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Aug 16, 2002, 1:01:53 AM8/16/02
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=^.^= wrote in message ...
>On 16 Aug 2002 03:28:11 GMT, "spo...@petitmorte.net"
>Censor? ..hardly....you left off the part where Martha was wondering
>what i didn't like or agree with around here....I think she wanted the
>full list but I only gave her a partial one


Oh Nicki admit it.... you post to have fun and give others some tums, right?
Why else?

desi


de...@cts.com

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Aug 16, 2002, 1:19:39 AM8/16/02
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shar...@mindspring.com wrote in message ...
>Oh ho Po , I don't think you want to go one on one with me about your last
abused pet Penny, aka, PPP!
With the demented emails and posts , the bizarre damage you, PPP and Jason
did .. I still tried to protect someone who lied, my fault and my error. GMS
did not do it, I did, and I stand up to it. Not like you pussies who fling
your diarrhea everywhere hoping it sticks. I stand corrected! My fault in
trying to protect a fucking insane woman who calls parliament over a lie. I
stood and spoke truth, the truth. Penny lied about my involvement in her
stupid chats, it was to spy on YOU! I covered , but when I found out her
defamation of EVERYONE, who was once a friend, me too, I quit! PatChup did
not come here to find her death row brother, she came to cause havoc. I had
enough! Enough of lies, enough of a fat porpoise in UK fucking with
everyone. And , watch your back because big mouth gave me a load on you!!!
Everything!!!! Of course it's public record, ya know!!!


desi

>
>
>


formica63

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Aug 16, 2002, 6:47:33 AM8/16/02
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Nicki wrote:

> >> I don't have any idea how old he is..but elder anger is when an
> >> elderly person goes ~postal~ and it is a symptom of dementia. They
> >> start swearing and saying things that they normally would never say.

This happened to an elderly relative of mine when I was a little girl. She
was shipped off somewhere and when we visited we were told she was suffering
from a "paralysed nose."

So I *hope* it's Nan's nose I see twitching.


> >> I don't know about Alan..his threats were pretty real-life sounding to
> >> me but you are right..I need to stop posting about his behavior.
> >> You're correct..no one listens but if I just read what he says and
> >> don't answer..he might think I agree with him :)

Dr Phil McGraw: "you'd stop worrying about what people think of you if you
knew how seldom they do."

> >I guess you agreed with all the RLing posts Jason and Sharon have made,
> >too, then, because I don't recall your speaking up against them?
> >
> >Martha
>
> You have selective memory....
>
> I have said NUMEROUS times in this newsgroup that I don't agree with
> everything that jason and Sharon have done. NUMEROUS times..I have
> said that. WE ALL have said that real life-ing someone is awful.
> I've spoken up but you don't listen. You are the typical me-me. You
> only read or retain what you want to.

ouch. You're the most consistent user of ad hominem here, Nick.

> I DON"T like how that spooge guy has brought that sat's posts here
> from alt.ho's and acts like he is ready to post his name BUT does
> that matter? I DON"T like how that spooge guy has called some poster
> named Marie a crack head and animal abuser..BUT does that matter? I

> think dog3 threatened to real life Maggie one time..BUTdoes that
> matter? Alan has threatened the army guy and it sounded like he was
> going to try to real life him...BUT does that matter? You are

> insisting that Marie is Mary Headman..( isn't that mary's real name?
> BUT does that matter? The spooge guy calls everyone a liar..he has

> been going after debby and choc because they complain about his nasty
> posting habits..But does that matter?
>

> NO ....I don't see YOU complaining about all of those offences
> martha..how come?

Name-slinging is par for the course here, Nick. RLing someone is not.

> You guys must pop a lot of tums with all that hate that burns in your
> gut.

Can't speak for Mothy, but I feel no hatred at all when I post here,
pussycat. Hatred & I are pretty much strangers, come to think of it.

Oh -- I hate rice pudding, have to tell you.

Form.


formica63

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Alan wrote:

> Welsh is from Leith, outside Edinburgh. I'm from Glasgow. That's a
> good fifty, fifty-two miles away. No way his culture has anything to
> do with mine.

Well, that explains quite a bit. I am, myself, 50% Gorbals, Export Quality.

Steve, you are out of your league, fella. Forget about the pantywaist
Sassenach from Leith.


> He's also younger than me, the bastard. Man, I'm older than Elvis now.
> Late-period Elvis, at that.

The best Elvis, Alan. I've been to Graceland and the jumpsuits weren't very
big at all. Presley post-In The Ghetto taught me all I needed to know about
the You-nited States.

Form.


formica63

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> >Alan Hope wrote:
>
> >> I think you're miffed because I won the hearts of millions by *doing*
> >> something while you sat on your duff doing fuck-all. All those bored
> >> housewifes, ripe for the picking, but the tree was empty before you
> >> could think of getting there, and I was running off down the lane with
> >> all the harvest in my basket.

lowtech:


> >"Harvest" indicates you have something of value in your basket. These old
girls
> >are fetid and overripe. Maybe you haven't been around long enough to
know. Plenty
> >before you have left fingerprints on this fruit- Eric Saegar, George
Byrd, Howard
> >M.. . . or did you think you were the first to pluck 'em? Is that what
they told
> >you when they were swooning over you? Hahahaha.

I wondered who might be this mindspring lurker with nothing of value in his,
ahem, basket. I think it's a sock, and there are a couple of obvious
candidates. There's not many around these days who'd remember Eric and
George.


Form.


mothra...@hotmail.com

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Aug 16, 2002, 10:13:07 AM8/16/02
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formica63 wrote:

<snip>


> Oh -- I hate rice pudding, have to tell you.

Oh Oh Oh--can I have yours?

Martha

mothra...@hotmail.com

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Aug 16, 2002, 10:18:02 AM8/16/02
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de...@petitmorte.net wrote:


> >Oh ho Po , I don't think you want to go one on one with me about your last
> abused pet Penny, aka, PPP!
> With the demented emails and posts , the bizarre damage you, PPP and Jason
> did .. I still tried to protect someone who lied, my fault and my error. GMS
> did not do it, I did, and I stand up to it. Not like you pussies who fling
> your diarrhea everywhere hoping it sticks. I stand corrected! My fault in
> trying to protect a fucking insane woman who calls parliament over a lie. I
> stood and spoke truth, the truth. Penny lied about my involvement in her
> stupid chats, it was to spy on YOU! I covered , but when I found out her
> defamation of EVERYONE, who was once a friend, me too, I quit! PatChup did
> not come here to find her death row brother, she came to cause havoc. I had
> enough! Enough of lies, enough of a fat porpoise in UK fucking with
> everyone. And , watch your back because big mouth gave me a load on you!!!
> Everything!!!! Of course it's public record, ya know!!!
>

Here, desi, let me refill your glass. You need a drink after that one,
toots.

Martha

satu...@yahoo.com

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Aug 16, 2002, 11:41:11 AM8/16/02
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Steve, Don't even bother with Alan. He and his petite mort bitches
have a reading difficulty resulting form a sever case of head up the
ass.

They imagine reading things that aren't there and when they read their
own words they suddenly loose sight.

Your best bet is to kill file Alan and ignore him. I'm sure you once
considered him a worthy adversary, but we both know he has sunk into
the petite mort pit.

When was the last time Spoomonkey or Alan contributed anything here
about true crime? Of course one could make the argument that they are
poster boys for the true crime of shrinking the health care budget.

One thing I think Alan did get you on is you do have something to
hide. You can hide your fist in his mouth while he tries to call for
his mama.

Next you'll have to watch out for the rabies the cujoke puppy will try
to give you for assaulting his master.

--

"There are three kinds of people in the world. There are wolves and there are sheep. And then there are those who protect the sheep from the wolves..."

satu...@yahoo.com

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Aug 16, 2002, 11:41:57 AM8/16/02
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 03:33:07 -0000, "spo...@petitmorte.net"
<spo...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

>Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in
>news:hggolu46hhhqklku1...@4ax.com:
>
>> Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, =^.^=
>> <nicki8801(spamblock)@yahoo.com> said:
>>
>>>Alan has threatened the army guy and it sounded like he was
>>>going to try to real life him.
>>
>> Back this one up, cat-face. Go on. I know you can do it. You
wouldn't
>> say it otherwise, would you?
>
>Nicki would never post an untruth. I feel confident that she will
supply
>unassailable rock solid proof.
>
>Right after Santa Claus brings it to her house.
>
>

And I'm sure it will be as rock solid as my cock as I pump your mommy.

satu...@yahoo.com

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Aug 16, 2002, 11:42:28 AM8/16/02
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Works for me.

satu...@yahoo.com

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Aug 16, 2002, 11:43:09 AM8/16/02
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And on the sock you jack off into right?

Alan Hope

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Aug 16, 2002, 4:08:09 PM8/16/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, <shar...@mindspring.com>
said:

>Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be>

>> Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, <shar...@mindspring.com>
>> said:

>> >He threatened an ISP with a lawsuit, which used
>> >to be grounds for kookdom, in which he had no legitimate interest
>other
>> >than displaying the hubris of a rooster.

>> Show where I threatened them with a lawsuit.

>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Pope+Warwick+author:ahope%40skynet.be&
>hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=m5s9lu0h2uj4f4ofeui6iq125rqa8f02hh%404
>ax.com&rnum=3

><quote>
>>Should be interesting watching your great legal mind try to prove
>>damages in this one.

>No need, old son. The threat is enough, as it was for Dr. Laurence
>Godfrey. ISPs know on which side their bread is buttered.

><snip>

>one Jason Pope, a child abuser of the parish of Warwick
></quote>

Of course, the threat doesn't come from me. The weatherman said this
morning there was a threat of thunder today, but I don't believe he's
actually going to *supply* the storm, do you?

Quite simply, there's no possible threat I could make in this case,
since I'm not the person being defamed in Pope's messages. I have no
standing. But as far as Virgin are concerned, the threat of a lawsuit
exists.


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Aug 16, 2002, 4:08:11 PM8/16/02
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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Ranger00089 said:

>Alan;

>>You must be confusing me with someone who gives a fuck how people
>>regard you.

>You are the one lying about my position re. Jason are you not? Why would you
>do this if not in an effort to damage me? Must you always lie?

You are certainly defending Pope, by attempting to deflect
condemnation onto me. It hasn't worked, has it?

>>1. How come your first reaction to Pope's removal, and the only one
>>you've stuck with, was to attack the person who helped bring it about?
>>You claim to "despise" him. Yet you attack his removal with tooth and
>>nail, and turn on all your former friends who defend me. What's up
>>with that, Steve?

>Again a small error on your part Alan. I have never defended Jason. I have
>asked why it is acceptable for you to post personal info about him here and
>have him tosed, when the same acts by anyone else are condemned by all.

The cases are materially different. Notifying his ISP of abuse is not
the same as dragging up personal information and posting it here.

> Of course you denied posting it, saying if I could prove ONE post, you would
>apologize. I proved 2 and still you attack me with your petty name calling.

Provide the Message ID where I said I would apologise. This is the
umpteenth time you have claimed this, but you cannot provide evidence.
There's a very simple reason for that, Steve.

>>hree parts of your
>>allegation remain unsubstantiated, but you refuse to address that
>>matter. What's more, you add another to the list: that I brought
>>private information provided to me in email to this newsgroup.

>Another lie alan? 2 Parts proven. No apology, so why would I waste any energy
>on finding the other 2? Ill tel you what. If I spend time finding them, and
>post them here, you will apologize to me and leave this group forever. Deal?

No deal. You made the allegations. It's your responsibility to
substantiate them. Are you trying to tell me you have no evidence
because you can't be bothered looking? Don't you think it would have,
um, surfaced by now, if it existed?

>>Jason Pope's place of employment, his home town, and his children's

>Hometown has been proven Alan. Stop lying.

Except he doesn't live there, so it's not a home town in the
generally-accepted sense of the words. It is a town, I'll give you
that -- two towns, in fact. And I dare say it's home to a great many
people. But not to Jason Pope. It's his home town in the same way it's
yours and mine -- that is, not at all.



>>And furthermore, where is your evidence I brought private
>>emails to this ng?

>QWhere did I say this?

See Message-ID: <20020815012113...@mb-fj.aol.com>
where you state:

"I will never post anything sent to me privately in e-mail. I am
not like Jason or you."

>>That
>>rather depends on what your answer might be.

>You have my answers. You have had them for awhile now.

Answer, in the singular. You've now made five allegations and
supported one. You flat-out refuse to offer support for the rest,
adding to the list instead. Your position gets worse by the day.


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Speaking earlier on the alt.true-crime show, Ranger00089 said:

>At no point have I defended Jason. I have however condemned you for being
>dishonest and lacking integrity and honor.

You started with some explicit accusations. All but one remain
unsupported, and you're happy to leave it at that.

Now, what do you call it when you enter a dispute and begin attacking
one of the participants? Most people would see it as a defence of the
other participant. The unusual persistence and vehemence with which
you've prosecuted this campaign only adds to the impression. The
question arises, Steve: what's any of this to do with you? I've told
you I intervened because my friend was being attacked. What's your
reason for being here?


--
AH

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