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Amanda Brown's Mom NOW Feels Remorse

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Oct 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/3/98
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Mother struggles with guilt as search for
girl ends in murder


TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Some days, Kathryn Hartman is overwhelmed by
despair, imagining her 7-year-old daughter, Amanda Brown, floating
lifeless in Tampa Bay near crab traps and fishing boats.

Other days, her heart assures her the talkative second-grader
might
still be alive, somewhere, just waiting to be found.

But each day, the same guilt gnaws at Ms. Hartman - the shame of
believing she is the one who opened the doors of her home and
invited danger inside to meet a trusting child.

``How could I be so stupid?'' she says now. ``What was I thinking?
Why didn't some sort of instinct kick in?''

A convicted child molester named Willie Crain, Jr. made his first
court appearance Friday on charges of first-degree murder and
kidnapping in Amanda's disappearance three weeks ago. He's being
held without bond in a county jail and his arraignment is expected
next week.

Amanda's body has not been recovered. But police found blood
consistent with Amanda's DNA along the toilet rim and on tissue
inside the toilet at Crain's trailer. They believe he dumped her
body,
perhaps in Old Tampa Bay where, as a commercial fisherman, he set
his crab traps.

Ms. Hartman, a single mother, had met the crabber at a bar where
his daughter worked and invited him to her home last month.
Detectives say he gave Valium tablets to Ms. Hartman, then crawled
into bed beside her and Amanda as she drifted off to sleep.

Ms. Hartman awoke to her blaring alarm at 6:12 a.m. and discovered
Crain and her little girl gone.

At the police station, she learned the truth: The man she met just
two days earlier was sent to prison for seven years for raping
five
girls, all roughly her daughter's age.

``I didn't know what kind of man he was,'' she says, crying.

Some signs, she admits, were there. But somehow, she neglected to
see them or just plain ignored them. She dismissed a gut feeling
that
Crain was a bit strange, instead believing his daughter who
described him as a good man looking for the right woman. Maybe,
Ms. Hartman thought, they could be friends.

On the night Ms. Hartman last saw her daughter, Crain spent the
evening helping Amanda with her handwriting homework. Then he
ate a spaghetti dinner and invited the pair to his trailer to
watch the
movie ``Titanic.''

They never watched the video. Instead, Crain called his sister and
put Ms. Hartman on the phone with her. When she hung up, she
realized Crain and Amanda were behind closed doors, in his
bedroom.

She opened the door. Amanda stood between Crain's knees, his
arms wrapped around her as he showed her how to use the remote
control.

``It just didn't look right,'' Ms. Hartman said. But she didn't
speak up,
instead separating the two and suggesting it was time to head
home. Crain followed along.

Back at her trailer, about a mile from Crain's in the town of
Seffner,
just east of Tampa, she ignored another voice telling her to send
him home.

``He would not take a hint. Finally, I said, 'Look, we're going to
bed.
You can lay down on the sofa if you need to sober up.'''

Crain instead followed them into the bedroom, laying down, fully
clothed, on the bed with her and Amanda. Ms. Hartman didn't like
that a bit. But again, tired from the prescription sedative he
offered
her to help her back pain, she didn't say a word.

By morning, it was too late.

``If I could have done anything different, this never would have
happened,'' she says.

Amanda's father, Roy Brown, bitterly agrees.

``I blame her,'' he says. ``You bring a man you don't even know
into
your house and you've got a young girl there. Tell me you're not
accountable.''

Crain, a second-grade dropout, was imprisoned in 1985 on five
counts of sexual battery on girls under age 11. He was sentenced
to
20 years in prison, but that sentence was whittled down bit by
bit. In
the end, he served only six years in prison and one year under
house
arrest.

He has said he has no idea what happened to Amanda, and people
should allow him to put his past behind him.

``There is no comparison of what I am now to what I was 14 years
ago,'' he told the St. Petersburg Times before charged Thursday
for
Amanda's death. ``I was bad back then. I was fighting the world.
Now, I am a human being.''

For Amanda's father, Crain's words are meaningless. Brown had
spent the previous day with Amanda, who had wiry blond hair and
loved country-western music and her pink and purple bicycle.

She drew her father a picture of his favorite cartoon character,
Tweety Bird. And they played together a little too long in the
morning, making her a few minutes late for school when he dropped
her off.

``Amanda told me she loved me and that was the last I saw of
her.''

He spent days along the Courtney Campbell Causeway last month,
as police divers searched the bay and peered into crab traps for
signs of his little girl, a child he described as his best friend.


Back at home one night, he pulled out a box of old pictures. Right
at
the top, Amanda's face smiled back at him. They were together at
that same spot along the causeway, a popular waterfront beach,
flying a kite.

``I could take her hurt. I could take her any kind of way, if only
I
could just take her home,'' he says. ``I need Amanda.''

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PHyatt1962

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Oct 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/3/98
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This story is sickening.

What kind of woman takes home a strange man, lets him in her bed, takes his
prescription medicine:

all while her daughter is there?

What a jerk.

PH

Jonathan Blaque

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Oct 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/3/98
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PHyatt1962 wrote:

> What kind of woman takes home a strange man,

> lets him in her bed, takes his prescription medi-
> cine: all while her daughter is there?

Only the girl of my dreams, sister.

Cheers!
Vomit(II)
Mrs. Brown, You've Got A Lovely Daughter

"If you are starting to believe that the vast bulk of
humanity is a worthless morass of lying, defecating
chimpanzees, then I've done my job."

-- Citizen Ted

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PHyatt1962

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Oct 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/3/98
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Only the girl of my dreams, sister.

Cheers!
Vomit(II)
Mrs. Brown, You've Got A Lovely Daughter

"If you are starting to believe that the vast bulk of
humanity is a worthless morass of lying, defecating
chimpanzees, then I've done my job."

-- Citizen Ted

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Mother of the year?

For Father of the Year, I am considering Monica Lewinski's Dad....he seems to
have given her the love and security she needed....

Kris Baker

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Oct 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/4/98
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phyat...@aol.com (PHyatt1962) wrote:

>This story is sickening.


>What kind of woman takes home a strange man, lets him in her bed,

>takes his prescription medicine:


>all while her daughter is there?

>What a jerk.
>PH

What kind of woman?

A trailer-trash, dope-taking, low morals, man-chasing, big-hair
wearing SLUT!

Kris


glas

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Oct 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/4/98
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PHyatt1962 eloquently penned in a.t-c ...

|
|This story is sickening.
|
|What kind of woman takes home a strange man, lets him in her bed, takes his
|prescription medicine:
|
|all while her daughter is there?
|
|What a jerk.

I agree. What kind of a mother (and I use that term loosely in this case)
would let a man sleep in the same bed that she shares with her young
daughter? Matter of fact, it could be daughter or son and still be an
incredibly stupid thing to do. Too bad the child was the one that paid for
this woman's stupidity.

glas

23f...@gmail.com

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Aug 31, 2017, 10:21:26 AM8/31/17
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why would she feel remorse? shes just as guilty as the killer. who is that fucking stupid

cyndi...@gmail.com

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moniques...@yahoo.com

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Jul 10, 2018, 1:07:08 AM7/10/18
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This is sickening! I love how Kathy now wants to play the victim. She was always a shitty mom. Amanda and I were best friends. We met because my grandmother noticed Amanda sitting on the swing at midnight in her yard and Kathy's car wasn't there, so she knew Kathy wasn't home. Turns out, that that was an every night thing. Kathy would be gone before Amanda got home from school and wouldn't come back until well past midnight, leaving Amanda to sit outside until she's returned. My grandmother would take her in, feed her, dress her in my pjs and get her up for school with us in the morning. Kathy would show up at our house drunk around 2 am asking for her daughter and my grandmother would turn her away and say she can see her in the morning. Roy wasn't any better. He knew the life Amanda was forced to live, but made no attempt to save her. He had his wife and a family of his own, so he turned a blind eye. This poor girl was failed in so many ways, it's ridiculous.

melissa...@gmail.com

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Feb 26, 2019, 4:56:10 PM2/26/19
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As a little girl I became the oldest of 4 by the age of 7 (shortly before my sweet 16 my mom gave birth to my final and third little brother who I still consider to be the worlds greatest gift of all 5yrs later at the age of 21 I gave birth to my oldest son) my parents NEVER gave me my sister or brothers the good touch bad touch talk I was sexually abused by my friends uncle who had come from Vietnam I learned about it from my teacher she gave us all a book to read and keep I still remember the title 31yrs later it was titled “secrets of the silver winged horse” the main character had been touched inappropriately and did things that made her feel ashamed it was the same thing my friends uncle did to me I also gave my first bj at the age of 7 this went on for several months I felt scared, ashamed, dirty and hated myself when I gathered up the courage to tell my parents they blamed me for it I was only 7yrs old my parents NEVER got me the help I needed, they NEVER went to the cops and they made me promise to NEVER tell anyone otherwise I could go to jail. After that my life was never the same I HATED guys I started drinking at the age of 12 (my parents encouraged it this should give you a bit of an idea wild animals could’ve raised me and my siblings better) I got preggo at 21 and gave birth to my oldest son shortly after his 4th bday his little brother came along 15mths later there baby sister arrived. I gave my kids the good touch bad touch talk I NEVER left my kids alone with strange men, I never partied or brought home the flavour of the night like my friends did IF (a rather huge IF) I did go out drinking (which happened at best once a year) I left my kids with my sister for the night the last thing I wanted my kids to see was mommy whacked out on wowie sauce not to mention it would also set a bad example and I also saw what it did to my friends kids not to mention the confusion when my friends introduced them as uncle so and so) when it came to relationships I ALWAYS kept it separate from my kids for many reasons my oldest son who turns 17 in May has only seen me with 2 guys my second son who turns 13 on Canada day and my daughter who turns 12 in oct has only seen me with 1. I shielded my kids with everything This wild and unpredictable society we have now a days because you don’t know who you can and can’t trust when my oldest son was 6yrs old he had a huge crush on the girl who lived across the street from us and every morning he ate in the living room and watched her house and always yelled “bye mommy I’m off to school now” he knew I was busy with his baby brother and baby sister and on really cold winter mornings his Sunday school teacher (I trusted both of them she saw Brandon as a grandson figure and her husband was the positive male role model my son needed and deserved because his dad wasn’t in the picture and was a complete and total deadbeat, my parents and 2 remaining brothers who live at home were all the way in Kelowna because my stepdad was offered a job and he happily accepted my sisters now ex hubby was a long haul trucker and my oldest brother was in Medicine Hat, when my son got home from school I always asked him the usual questions every parent(S) asks there kid(S) how was school what did you learn etc etc etc etc and for me it was the same answer “I don’t remember” it was about 9:30pm I was in the kitchen doing supper dishes and there was a knock at my front door imagine my surprise ( and horror) to find out my son and his crush were approached by a man in a white car and he offered them a ride home thankfully both kids said no but the rcmp wanted to talk to my son my kids were like me when it came to sleeping DEAD TO THE WORLD AND NOT EVEN AN EARTHQUAKE WOULD WAKE US UP I got no sleep that night I was a total wreck and spent the night freaking out I was on the phone with my best friend and my sister came to get my youngest kids so I could sleep and talk to my oldest son privately his Sunday school teacher came to pick him and his friend up from school and she dropped him off we had a serious discussion about school and when mommy asks how your day was she wants to hear EVERYTHING he couldn’t understand why I was crying until I told him what happened to me when I wasn’t much older then what he was at that age. After that I went back to school and successfully earned my private investigators certificate. I’m still Leary about men and DONT LEAVE THEM ALONE WITH MEN NO MATTER HOW LONG I’VE KNOWN THEM FOR MY SAFETY AND WELL-BEING COMES FIRST

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It makes my heart a little warmer knowing she had other people surrounding her that cared for her so deeply. I considered Amanda to be my best friends, too. I met her when we moved next door to her grandparents. She would come almost every weekend, and come straight over. She was the sweetest friend and little girl. I still have quite a few pics of her and I making cookies or watching Nickelodeon. At one point, my mom and I were even trying to help teach her to read because she was falling behind in school. She told me of some of the things that didn’t sound quite right about her home life. And my mom was starting to get quite concerned when I would tell her. But we ended up having to move to Georgia a month before Amanda was kidnapped. It was my first encounter with the horrors of this world at 8yrs old when my mom got the call about Amanda being on the news. That poor girl deserved so much more. She was truly an absolute blessing of a person. Again, it’s nice to know she had you and your family there for her when she went home. I’m thankful that she at least had that. And I send my condolences that I know you experienced. She was a hard one to lose.
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