Spector case: Raul Julia-Levy?
Cliff and Linda Griffith
Google search indicates that the man is a member of a very wealthy and
powerful Mexican family, and he's the son of Raul Julia. (I wasn't aware of
either man's existence.) I'm pretty sure this is the Defense witness for
whom the judge and the Prosecutors had an in camera meeting. The judge gave
the Prosecution more time to investigate RJ-L, and he said that the
investigation might well benefit the Defense; that if they put this witness
on the stand right now, it could blow up in their faces. [my phrasing] I
got the impression that a "rap sheet" may be involved.
Ideas?
Linda
Kris Baker
"Cliff and Linda Griffith" <grif...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know what problem this actor might cause for the Defense? A
> Google search indicates that the man is a member of a very wealthy and
> powerful Mexican family, and he's the son of Raul Julia. (I wasn't aware
> of
> either man's existence.)
Really? Well....since Raul Julia died in 1994, you can say he
doesn't exist now.
But I'm sure you've seen some of these:
http://imdb.com/name/nm0000471/
Kiss of the Spider Woman
The Addams Family
Havana
Eyes of Laura Mars (also has a young Tommy Lee Jones)
> I'm pretty sure this is the Defense witness for
> whom the judge and the Prosecutors had an in camera meeting. The judge
> gave
> the Prosecution more time to investigate RJ-L, and he said that the
> investigation might well benefit the Defense; that if they put this
> witness
> on the stand right now, it could blow up in their faces. [my phrasing] I
> got the impression that a "rap sheet" may be involved.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Linda
He must be a drug dealer, will testify that she was suicidal....or something
like that.
tiny dancer
"Cliff and Linda Griffith" <grif...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Don't you remember Raul Julia, the actor? He used to be in quite a few
movies. I don't know anything about his son though.
td
>
>
Cliff and Linda Griffith
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> Do you have a link or a reference of how Raul Julia-Levy is connected
> to this case? I know he tried to his hand at producing, which may get
> him some connection to Lana Clarkson, (she was also a girlfriend of a
> powerful record producer at one time or another, IIRC, I think Chris
> Blackwell of Island Records) but it is difficult to follow any
> connection for me.
No, I have no link or URL. I was going from memory, regarding one of Beth
Karas's reports this afternoon. I've Googled everything I can think of, but
to no avail. There's a Beth Karas video at courttv.com, but it addresses
the testimony of the man who was called to remove Spector from two of Joan
Rivers' holiday parties.
Oh, wait! I did find something.
At http://boards.courttv.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=39, there is a thread
entitled, "Raoul Julia-Levy, Jr.," but there's not a lot of background info
there. The posters reported pretty much what I did, such as it was, and
they're wondering what this guy could say and/or if the Defense will
actually call him as a witness.
Linda
Cop-A-Setic
comadrejo wrote:
> In article <comadrejo-t-DBF3...@news.giganews.com>,
> comadrejo <comad...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > I did a WHOIS of the website and the offices are off the 101 in the
> > greatest section of Hollywood)
>
> Another learning disorder mistake, I meant to write NOT one of the
> greatest sections of Hollywood...
>
> I have a feel he completely made up the Abraham Levy and the Margaret
> Levy deal as well. Given all the sources can be edited by any user...
> I can't find anything in Forbes about the Levy family in Mexico, and I
> have tried "La Jornada", the site I read for Mexico City News....
>
>
> I am really getting the impression that the guy is a fake and a fraud
> and he is putting himself in the spotlight to get media attention for
> his projects. He doesn't come from a rich family and he isn't the son
> of Raul Julia. The only Levy of media attention is an actress who
> died from a heart attack in Mexico City in 2005: Mariana Levy.
He must have wrote this biography for "Abraham Levy."
http://www.s9.com/Biography/Abraham-Levy
But Levi Strauss's nephew's name was not Abraham Levy, it was Abraham
Stern. And it was Jacob, Sigmund, Louis, and Abraham Stern, the sons
of Strauss's sister Fanny, that took over the company after Levi
Strauss's death.
Cliff and Linda Griffith
news:comadrejo-t-DBF3...@news.giganews.com...
> At first, I thought the guy looks like Raul Julia, but on closer
> inspection, This guy is a big fake in many ways.. I don't think he is
> connected to Raul Julia or the Levy family in Mexico. I think his real
> name is Salvador Alba Fuentes, and he doesn't really look like Raul
> Julia, his features are very Mexican. I don't think he is even the son
> of Julia Levy either. I think he is playing a conned game. <snip>
Six Degrees of Raul Julia
> By SPENCER MORGAN
> When Merel Julia, the widow of the actor Raul Julia, read in the trades
> last month that a movie about her late husband's life was set to begin
> filming in Los Angeles on Aug. 17, concern, not pride, was the feeling
> that overcame her. Her worries had to do with a familiar name: Raul
> Julia Jr., listed in the Aug. 1 issue of The Hollywood Reporter as
> associate producer of ''A Kiss and a Lie: The Raul Julia Story.''
> ''Since 1996, I have been aware of an impostor claiming to be the son of
> my late husband,'' Mrs. Julia said in an e-mail message to The New York
> Times. <snip extremely interesting article>
Comadreja/o,
Good work! This may well be what the Prosecution told the judge! The judge
told the Defense that what the Prosecution had told him could very well
backfire on the Defense if they called the man as a witness. Also,
something like "causing irreparable damage to their case"...
I'm sad to see that other people's comments about the unreliability of
Wikipedia have been proved true. I understood that anyone could submit an
entry, but I did assume there was some kind of oversight or fact-checking.
If the Wikipedia entry for Raul (Raoul) Julia-Levy contained any of the
information that you provided, I certainly missed it.
Linda
loc...@utech.net
wrote:
To Linda,
I have looked on the internet & I feel that the information about the
powerful family of Abraham Levy (supposed to be the grandfather of
Raul Julia-Levy) is a big hoax. The story on the net is that the
grandfather Abraham Levy is a co-founder of Levi-Strauss. I don't
believe it. Do some research & I'll think you will also find that
there is a hoax going on here regarding Raul Julia-Levy. I have no
idea if he is a "love-child" son of the actor, but I don't believe
that his mother & he are part of a powerful family in Mexico. I don't
believe, as is reported on the net, that Raul Julia-Levy is rich,
powerful & organizing world gatherings of world leaders, reorganizing
airlines in Mexico, etc, etc,. I smell a hoax.
Eddie
Kris Baker
<loc...@utech.net> wrote in message
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It's not Levi-Strauss (ie, it's not two people, in a hyphenated business).
The founder was Levi Strauss himself and the company still bears
his name. His partner was named Stern, not Levy.
I don't think the actor Raul Julia was particularly wealthy or
powerful, either. So yeah, there's a hoax going on unless
DNA's tested.
So did he testify or not? The trial bores the hell out of me, but
little snippets are intriguing.
Kris
Cliff and Linda Griffith
> I have looked on the internet & I feel that the information about the
> powerful family of Abraham Levy (supposed to be the grandfather of
> Raul Julia-Levy) is a big hoax.
Thanks, Eddie. After I posted what I had read, another regular poster
(comadreja) posted what he had read, and it was really interesting about the
Raul Julie-Levy person.
I'm betting that this info about the "Raul/Raoul Julie-Levy" person might
well screw up the Defense's story.
I'm happy that you others have an eye on what is really going on.
Linda
Cliff and Linda Griffith
this Raul (Raoul) Julia-Levy, I'm eager for the judge in the Spector trial
to make a ruling, saying, "We really think think he'll ruin your case." If
we're lucky, the Defense will say, "Hey! No way! Don't oppose him! We
want to have Raul Julia-Levy testify for us!"
Interesting-er and interesting-er.
I really wish they wouldn't cancel testimony several days in a row..
Linda
Cliff and Linda Griffith
> In article <y38li.37$oh...@newsfe12.lga>,
> "Cliff and Linda Griffith" <grif...@charter.net> wrote:
> The super rich don't be "associate producers" as Salvador Fuentes has
> done according to his imdb.com listings, it is sort of like being a
> garbageman instead of owning Waste Management. They take jobs like
> "executive producers" and have very serious production companies, and
> bankrolled films and acquiring film rights and other rights. Much like
> what Phillip Anschutz did, when he decided to plunge into the Film
> business with his billions. (Anschutz produce "Lion, Witch and the
> Wardrobe and has a political agenda in his film production)
>
>
> He is doing this for publicity sake, and I doubt he ever has met or
> knew Lana Clarkson.
Comadreja/o:
I'm really impressed by you and what you know or pull up via Google. Where
do you live? Anywhere in the D/FW area....... or farther away? It doesn't
matter; I'm just wondering.
Linda Griffith
Copasetic
> In article <f8ili.471$oh7...@newsfe12.lga>,> (I apologize this is very, very long reply)
>>
> I am using comadrejo now after too many Nigerians lawyers emailed me
> stating that my imaginary cousin working for Royal Dutch Shell was
> killed in car accident in the Edo state, and there is all this cash
> waiting to be claimed. Hopefully that and some spam blocks will give me
> a couple months before I have to change again...
>
> Copasetic put many of the pieces of the puzzle together with Raul
> Julia Levy's crap story about Levi Strauss. In Latin America, where
> both paternal and maternal names are used, my guess is that "Sr. Julia
> Levy" thought "Levi" was his Levi Strauss's paternal name and "Strauss"
> was Strauss's mother's name. Not knowing that "Levi" was Strauss first
> name, and not knowing any sort of history about Levi Strauss Clothing
> company...
>
> When you started this thread, I was definitely more interested in the
> "Levy" part of his name than the Raul Julia part. My family's friends
> know some very rich Mexican families mainly in Real Estate.
>
> So there are really powerful and very rich families in Mexico. Like
> all super rich families, they have a myriad of businesses, holdings and
> investments. They also have some serious family foundations...
>
> Every time I tried to google "Levy family" "Mexico" or "Margaret Levy"
> "Mexico" I always ended up to this s9.com/Biography/Abraham-Levy open
> access editing website... It didn't make sense. I went to one of my
> favourite sites to search for anything, "La Opinión" a Los Angeles
> Spanish newspaper website, again, nothing. I then went to "La Jornada"
> which is a center-left newspaper in Mexico City: Nothing.. then finally
> "La Reforma" which is more middle of the road, corporate friendly, when
> I hit some stuff, mainly PR releases and how Raul Julia Jr. or Raul
> Julia Levy stated he would win the Oscar for Mexico back in 2001..
>
I found this Levy in Mexico, but I don't think it's a relation to
RJ Levy. I don't even think RJ Levy is probably a Levy.
I don't understand the name because I found other articles with just the
name Marcos Achar,
and no Levy.
http://www.coatings.de/thecoatingssummit/programme_mon.cfm
Marcos Achar Levy, CEO, Grupo Comex
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john...@adelphia.net
We are a private investigation company out of los angeles. In
1998,my company was hired to investigate
Mr. Raul Julia Levy in regards to the validity of his identity. In our
final report it was that Mr.Julia Levy was born
on july 10 1971, and was the son of Margaret Levy ,and actor Raul
Julia. From the maternal side Julia Levy's
grandfarther was a very powerful individual durning the 50's thru the
early 90's.His name was Abraham Stern-Levy.
We also found out that Julia Levy's teen years were troubled. If
anyone needs additional information pertaining to
this matter, please contact me at uswir...@hotmail.com
john...@adelphia.net
john...@adelphia.net
john...@adelphia.net
john...@adelphia.net
Kris Baker
<john...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> We are a private investigation company out of los angeles.
"Out" being the operative word. Way out.
76.81.10.30
Kris
Kris Baker
"comadrejo" <comad...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:comadrejo-t-46DC...@news.giganews.com...
> In article <1184274070.0...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,> http://tinyurl.com/2je6kt
>
> Clash
>
> uswir...@hotmail.com
> LOVE THE CAST (WHY THEY DON'T PUT THE ACTORS IN THE RIGHT ORDER I THINK
> "RAUL JULIA JR" IS THE LEAD AND NOT ONLY THE LEAD FOR SALES PURPOSE I
> THINK IS GOT A BIGGER NAME FROM THE REST OF THE CAST....SO ...I PURCHASE
> THIS MOVIE JUST BECASUE OF JULIA JR.
> Submitted by a reviewer (hollywood ca) 11/18/2006
Track that IP: 76.81.10.30
Kris Baker
>
>
> google search for...
>
> john...@adelphia.net
>
>
> http://www.mandy.com/home.cfm?c=bmo100
>
> and this...
>
> http://www.mandy.com/1/film3.cfm?id=9549
>
> The email sort of translates to John De Hart at "B More Productions"
>
> hmm so in this LA Times article..
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ytmxlh
>
> ""If everybody believes my client like I do, he's going to contribute to
> reasonable doubt," said Levy's lawyer, John DeHart, of Los Angeles."
>
> Attorney by day, and Actor, Writer, Producer at night???
>
> this is like a whack a mole game...
It's LA. He's probably a waiter, too.
The STAR of his film is Wings Hauser? Who the HELL is Wings Hauser?
Kris
nimue
> "Cliff and Linda Griffith" <grif...@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:otRki.2196$R91...@newsfe06.lga...
>> Does anyone know what problem this actor might cause for the
>> Defense? A Google search indicates that the man is a member of a
>> very wealthy and powerful Mexican family, and he's the son of Raul
>> Julia. (I wasn't aware of either man's existence.) I'm pretty sure
>> this is the Defense witness for whom the judge and the Prosecutors
>> had an in camera meeting. The judge gave the Prosecution more time
>> to investigate RJ-L, and he said that the investigation might well
>> benefit the Defense; that if they put this witness on the stand
>> right now, it could blow up in their faces. [my phrasing] I got the
>> impression that a "rap sheet" may be involved.
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> Linda
>
>
> few movies. I don't know anything about his son though.
He was a brilliant actor, an amazing talent. His death was quite a loss. I
know nothing about his son.
>
>
> td
--
nimue
"Let your freak-flag fly, and if someone doesn't get you, move on."
Drew Barrymore
nimue
> In article <otRki.2196$R91...@newsfe06.lga>,
> "Cliff and Linda Griffith" <grif...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> A
>> Google search indicates that the man is a member of a very wealthy
>> and powerful Mexican family, and he's the son of Raul Julia. (I
>> wasn't aware of either man's existence.)
>
> Rico that he was given a state funeral.
He should have been. God, that man was an incredible actor.
> If Mr. Julia-Levy is the son
> of Raul Julia so I don't know how much he knew his father or if he
> had a strong relationship with him, given that Raul Julia met him for
> the first time in 1989.
>
> Mr. Julia most prominent role, IMHO, was in "Kiss of the Spider
> Women" (El Beso de Mujer Arana)
>
> I have no idea what Raul Julia-Levy been in, but it seems he more
> renown for his family fortune than his acting, and wanting to dig up
> Raul Julia to piss off his widow.
>
>
> Mr. Julia Levy's maternal grandfather was one of the most powerful
> businessmen in Mexico...
>
> http://www.s9.com/Biography/Abraham-Levy
yadda...@cox.net
> Does anyone know what problem this actor might cause for the Defense? A
> Google search indicates that the man is a member of a very wealthy and
> powerful Mexican family, and he's the son of Raul Julia. (I wasn't aware of
> whom the judge and the Prosecutors had an in camera meeting. The judge gave
> the Prosecution more time to investigate RJ-L, and he said that the
> investigation might well benefit the Defense; that if they put this witness
> on the stand right now, it could blow up in their faces. [my phrasing] I
> got the impression that a "rap sheet" may be involved.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Linda
info on this aned I would set forth to all of you on this (and other)
boards/chats, etc,. that you carefully review what you DO know vs,.
what you THINK you know. BTW it is common for GOOD litigating
attorneys to take acting lessons for "presence" in court. As for
Raul, he is the son of Raul. His grandfather who died about 20 years
ago at 105 was the Levy of Levi-Strauss. He was an impoverished
immigrant from Morocco who landed in Mexico in much the same way folks
came to the U.S.
Raul Julia Levy uses both names when acting for LEGAL matters as that
is the custom in Hispanic countries.
He uses Raul Julia Jr. in acting/producing because that is also what
one does in the usual day to day. For example, my 'ex' is a well
known singer in Mexico. He uses the mother's surname in document
signing, other personal issues, checking account, etc. In performing
he uses only his first and last (father's) surname.
As for Raul's relationship with the deceased, keep in mind that the
press has already reported erroneously in several issue. First they
said they were dating for several months. Then they reported for
several YEARS.
Raul was called upon to testify as to his KNOWLEDGE of the deceased as
to character, things she spoke of to him, what she did/did not do,
etc. Many people have done time in the proverbial belly of the
beast. That does not mean that you cannot effectively testify as to
what you know about a person, etc. If that were not possible, then
there would be NO jailhouse witnesses. I urge all who wish to
disembowel any of the players in this sad case, to approach
discussions with charity and dignity for all who are involved, even
peripherally. You may be a party to libel, slander, or the
contributor to things far darker. Raul's family is not powerful in
the ways your chats infer. They are, in fact, wealthy and a dignified
family. Please show the same consideration to them the way you'd want
to have extended to your own family if - in doing your DUTY to testify
- your own dirty laundry were exposed. The truths in this case are
sufficient for the fomenting of gossip and speculation to last twenty
lifetimes.
Thanks for the opportunity to add to your talks.
whicho
READ THIS. OR ARE YOU BLIND????
IF I WAS YOU ILL BE CAREFULL MAN. I GUESS YOU ARE GOING OVER THE TOP
WITH YOU SPY MIND HU?
Reveals Truth about Exhumation Request for His Father
Los Angeles, CA -- Raul Julia-Levy, the first-born son on the late
actor Raul Julia, wants his side of the story told.
The late actor's widow Merel Poloway sullied Julia-Levy's name in The
New York Times. Facts have been misconstrued in an interview with
CBS's The Insider. All Julia-Levy wants is to set the record straight
regarding the now public paternity battle with Poloway and the
exhumation of his father's body.
"The only way to prove Raul Julia-Levy's paternity is to exhume Raul
Julia's body," stated prominent criminal and family attorney John
DeHart.
On the March 31 airing of CBS's The Insider, DeHart and Julia-Levy
asserted their case regarding the paternity battle between Julia-Levy
and Poloway.
Poloway stated on The Insider, "I have made every attempt to resolve
this situation reasonably and still hope to do so." However, no
evidence exists to prove her statement.
Julia-Levy stated in a private interview, "There are no records
indicating that she tried to resolve this issue with me. It is only
within the last month that she has contacted my attorneys through her
lawyers. The question needs to be asked: why is she doing this 11
years after my father's death?"
For the past nine years, Poloway, the widow of late actor Raul Julia
who is famous for his role as Gomez in "The Addams Family," has
questioned the paternity of Julia-Levy. She claims that he is not the
late actor's first son and she has demanded a paternity test.
Although Poloway has publicly admitted to knowing of Julia-Levy as
early as 1996, she now claims that she has tissue samples of the late
actor to be used for a paternity test. The underlying question is:
after all these years of demanding that Julia-Levy take a paternity
test, why does she now have samples?
"I have documents that show that I have always complied with her
requests of taking a paternity test," said Julia-Levy. "However, when
I would make the appointment, she would disappear for years," Julia-
Levy explained. "My last appointment was on September 15, 2005 and now
six months later I hear from her again. This is another Poloway
production."
According to DNA technicians and scientists, a reputable and legal
paternity test follows specific protocols called a chain of custody.
The samples have to be carefully collected by a neutral third party,
under the strictest supervision. In Julia-Levy's case, this entails
the exhumation of his father's body.
Julia-Levy said, "According to the DNA Diagnostic Center, they have
found usable samples on bodies that have been buried for 17 years. I
would like to see her put her money where he mouth is because I am
really tired of this. I am not going to stop this time until she
complies with her own demands."
Against his own beliefs, Julia-Levy said, "I want the body to be
exhumed and we are willing to ask the Congress of Puerto Rico to grant
the exhumation of my father's body."
DeHart stated, "Poloway has known of my client since 1996. Through the
years, she never made any attempts to meet with me or my client to
address this matter privately. Instead she circumvents the traditional
and legal avenues to resolve the situation."
The DNA Diagnostic Center, the world leaders in DNA science, have
informed the Julia-Levy camp that the sample Poloway claims to house
is not a viable option for a paternity test.
"Due to the extended time period of storage (over 13 years) the DNA
contained in this sample would certainly be diminished, if present at
all," stated the Center in a letter to Julia-Levy.
The Center added, "Given the storage condition and the age of the said
sample, it is highly unlikely to obtain sufficient, non-degraded, and
viable DNA for subsequent paternity testing."
Experts even expressed to Julia-Levy that given all the circumstances
he can even question the paternity of his half brothers, the two sons
Poloway claims to have had with the late actor. Julia-Levy has been
advised to avoid taking a Y-chromosome test because it is not a legal
paternity test and it is inconclusive, meaning that it will not be
admissible for legal purposes.
DeHart has found that 99 percent of legal paternity tests cannot be
carried out unless the laboratory performing the test has received a
sample from the mother, the child and the alleged father.
Julia-Levy is not seeking financial reward. "I only want declaratory
relief and to go on with my acting career," said Julia-Levy, who will
begin a couple movies in late July.
___________________________________________________
USED YOUR GLASSES COMADREJO!!!!! ;)
whicho
Raul Julia's Films to Be Boycotted and Burned
By: Raul Julia-levy (PRWEB)
Wednesday, Feb 22 2006, 8:50am
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The latest buzz around Mexico's Latin community is that Latin
America's college activist groups plan to boycott and burn Raul
Julia's films in response to defamatory allegations by the late
actor's widow.
The latest buzz around Mexico's Latin community is that Latin
America's college activist groups plan to boycott and burn Raul
Julia's films in response to defamatory allegations by the late
actor's widow.
In late september 2005, the New York Times printed an article stating
that Raul Julia's widow, Merel Polloway, believes "an impostor
claiming to be the son of my late husband" lives in Hollywood and
aspires to be an actor and producer; his name is Raul Julia-Levy.
Polloway continues to state that Julia-Levy's real name is Salvador
Alba Fuentes. Since the publication of the New York Times article,
Latin American publications have printed articles where Julia-Levy
refutes Polloway's claims. Additionally, news organizations like terra
have hosted articles refuting Polloway's claims.
Latin American's have shown their support of Raul Julia-Levy on the
website culturalia, a well known and trusted website based in Spain.
Numerous supporters have expressed their love and admiration for Julia-
Levy and their disappointment and disgust with Polloway. Julia-Levy's
fans have stated that they would boycott Raul Julia's films in
retaliation to Polloway's statements and that a public apology is
being requested on behalf of Julia-Levy.
Additionally, Julia-Levy's supporters have even stated that they are
unaware that Julia-Levy is related to the late actor Raul Julia. One
supporter states that in Argentina Raul Julia is not even known, but
Julia-Levy is highly recognized for his work in Latin American
television and cinema productions.
On the site, one person writes that his name is Salvador Alba Fuentes
and that he is suffering the effects of Polloway's actions. People now
confuse him with Julia-Levy.
The late actor Raul Julia is best known for his roles in The Addams
Family, Kiss of a Spider Women, and Street Fighter; whereas, Raul
Julia-Levy is known in the Latin American community for his roles in
Latin American soap operas and movies, as well as his humanitarian
contributions while working with prominent and powerful people in
Latin America. Julia-Levy raised over $400,000 for the construction of
homes for the indigenous people in Chihuahua, Mexico. In the United
States, he has produced and starred in numerous films.
whicho
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Cliff and Linda Griffith
> I am using comadrejo now after too many Nigerians lawyers emailed me
> stating that my imaginary cousin working for Royal Dutch Shell was
> killed in car accident in the Edo state, and there is all this cash
> waiting to be claimed. Hopefully that and some spam blocks will give me
> a couple months before I have to change again...
Good luck with that name change. I keep getting offers from Nigerian widows
who will give me a share of the money that they want me to help them move to
the States. Also, I've supposedly won a lot of money in British lotteries
that I've never played. No telling how many millions I've passed up!
I find this Raul Julia-Levy story quite interesting. Phil Spector seems to
be such an odd duck that I guess it's only natural that there would be
quirky people and activities throughout his case. I read yesterday that
Spector showed up with a "new wig". It just looked to me as if he hadn't
washed his hair in several weeks, or that he had put gel or mousse in it.
Linda
>
> Copasetic put many of the pieces of the puzzle together with Raul
> Julia Levy's crap story about Levi Strauss. In Latin America, where
> both paternal and maternal names are used, my guess is that "Sr. Julia
> Levy" thought "Levi" was his Levi Strauss's paternal name and "Strauss"
> was Strauss's mother's name. Not knowing that "Levi" was Strauss first
> name, and not knowing any sort of history about Levi Strauss Clothing
> company...
>
> When you started this thread, I was definitely more interested in the
> "Levy" part of his name than the Raul Julia part. My family's friends
> know some very rich Mexican families mainly in Real Estate.
>
> So there are really powerful and very rich families in Mexico. Like
> all super rich families, they have a myriad of businesses, holdings and
> investments. They also have some serious family foundations...
>
> Every time I tried to google "Levy family" "Mexico" or "Margaret Levy"
> "Mexico" I always ended up to this s9.com/Biography/Abraham-Levy open
> access editing website... It didn't make sense. I went to one of my
> favourite sites to search for anything, "La Opinión" a Los Angeles
> Spanish newspaper website, again, nothing. I then went to "La Jornada"
> which is a center-left newspaper in Mexico City: Nothing.. then finally
> "La Reforma" which is more middle of the road, corporate friendly, when
> I hit some stuff, mainly PR releases and how Raul Julia Jr. or Raul
> Julia Levy stated he would win the Oscar for Mexico back in 2001..
>
> I went to "RaulJulia Levy's" myspace at ....
>
> http://www.myspace.com/rauljulialevy
>
> That is when red flags appeared, because there is a photo of him with
> Kato Kaelin on the myspace sight, why would a Mexican from a very rich
> family hang out with a bozo like Kato Kaelin? or eagerly testify about
> his former girlfriend that could get a gun pulling psycho dwarf
> acquitted?!?
>
> Then it dawn on me he was making the whole "Levy" thing up, which is
> the reason I couldn't find any independent source, or Mexican source, I
> was always being sent back to the s9.com/Biography/Abraham-Levy site.
>
> He also stated on his myspace.com site that his family was constructing
> something called "San Felipe Villas Resort" I have been around that
> area for sea kayaking, (around there and another place down the coast at
> a place called San Francisquito) and from this website...
>
> http://www.sanfelipe.com.mx/business/index.html
>
> There is no listing for "San Felipe Villas Resort", hmmm.. Another
> website he had http://www.rauljuliaofficial.com/ which he took down
> today, stated he went to Harvard University... (The Mexican Elites go to
> Ivy League Schools, and pretty much all the top layer of the Mexican
> gov't are all Ivy League school graduates)
>
> People like "Raul Julia Levy" have been around since Pope Joan, and
> they will continue to be around, (like Anna Anderson proclaiming she was
> the Grand Duchess Anastasia in the 1920s or much like some of the
> idiotic antics of John Mark Karr last year). They are going to insert
> themselves in high profile cases like the Phil Spector case.
>
> What little I found out through my dinky computer and google and WHOIS
> domain search engine, it is nothing to the vast array of tools and
> weapons the prosecution can use to find everything about this guy.
> Merel Poloway, Raul Julia's widow, hired private investigators to do a
> history of this guy, the prosecution could get all that information,
> besides whatever is in Law Enforcement's databases, and what the Mexican
> Gov't has on this guy.
>
>
> After all this, what perplexes me is why in the world would the
> Spector's defense team put this pathological liar on the stand? How did
> they think he would help their case? Either Spector's defense team are
> so desperate for anything to help their client, that they would be
> risking suborning perjury and facing stiff sanctions and/or Jail Time or
> a very serious hearing before the California State Bar. They were
> desperate, or incredibly incompetent, not to know through a couple
> searches that this guy was a fraud. The prosecution would had skin
> alive Raul Julia Levy on the cross ex. Hell, I could had pummeled him
> on the cross ex with the little information I put together.
>
> Not only the prosecution could had destroyed this guy, Judge Fidler
> would could had been pissed off beyond belief that the Spector's defense
> team would think they could get away having this guy on the stand.
>
> I live kind of far away from DFW, I tend to post about stuff in the
> region I live in. I know a little bit about Mexico and some other Latin
> American Countries because I used to travel there for work. I even been
> to where I think "Raul Julia Levy" probably his name is Salvador
> Fuentes, grew up, Cuernavaca, Mexico, which is a very pretty town.
whicho
WHAT A FUCK WITH YOUR NAME BY THE WAY?
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SO COMADRE...........JA...........jajajajajaja. SO IF YOU ARE SO
SEGURE ABOUT YOUR COMMENTS WHY SELECT THAT OPTION?
TELL US ARE YOU A FAKE USER?.....ARE YOU A LOSER SPY?
BECAUSE jajajajajaj YOUR DOING IT VERY BAD.
COMADREJO I HAVE A PRESENT FOR YOU.
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ENJOY IT MAN ....... O SORRY I
MEAN .......COMADRE......JÁ .....jajajajaja
whicho
LOOK. EDUCATE PUES MIRA AQUI ESTA LA INFO DE UN PERIODICO.
http://www.laprensa-sandiego.org/archieve/february24-06/julia.htm
WITH PEOPLE LIKE I GUESS MR. RAUL JULIA LEVY SHOULD BE GRATEFULL,
BECAUSE YOUR COMMENTS WILL DO A HUGE MOVEMENT WITH ALL THIS CRAZY
SITUATION
THANKS TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND LINDA A JUDGE FEDERAL WILL GIVE THE
ORDER TO EXUMATE THE BODY FOR THE DNA TEST, AND YOU WILL MAKE MORE
FAMOUS RAUL JULIA LEVY!!!!
14 YEARS 14!!!!!!!! YEARS HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED TO INVESTIGATE
SOMEONE???? HU???
DEAR COMADRE. WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED, ILL HELP YOU TO CLEAN YOU MIND,
GO A HEAD!.
I WILL SEARCH INFO ... ;);)
GO COMADRE GO!............ GO COMADRE GO!!!!
whicho
comadrejo thanks to people like your self and linda Raul Julia Levy
is ganna be more famous than he's father the fact that A FEDERAL JUDGE
IS GANNA GRANT THE EXUMATION IS GANNA REPRESENT A BIG DEAL WORLD
WIDE , comadreja you realy need to educated your self, in 13 years
they have not found anything the sherif and the widow , you don't
know the LAW YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE LAW WORKS IN AMERICA THIS GUY
HAS MORE LAWYERS THAT CAN'T YOU NEVER IMAGINE JUST TO NAME TWO (TOMAS
MESSERAU, AND JONH DE HART ) THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS NOT DONE
ANYTHING IN 4 YEARS , THE FBI HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING IN 7 YEARS , I
FEEL REALY SAD FOR YOU COMADREJA , VERY SAD ,I THINK YOU MUST LOOK FOR
ANOTHER JOB BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE NOT FIGURE OUT WHY THE HAVE NOT DONE
ANYHTING IN 13 YEARS ABOUT IT ....YOU REALY HAVE A SERIOUS
PROBLEM ,AND JUST SO YOU KNOW RAUL IS NOT MY FRIEND BUT WE KNOW ABOUT
THE GUY VERY WELL I AM FROM MEXICO CITY AND YOU ARE NOT , IN FACT I
THINK YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LERN ABOUT THE "LAW" BECAUSE
YOU LITTLE PI JOB IS NOT GOOD I HOPE YOU REALY FIND THE PAZ IN YOUR
HARD , IN ORDER TO CHARGE SOME BODY THEY NEED TO HAVE (PROVE OF
"DNA'S" ) AND THEY HAVE NOT EXUME THE BODY IN 14 YEARS .....GOD LUCK
WITH YOUR JOB
TU COMADREJA , ...JAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJ
Ps.
GOT AND READ SOME BOOKS ABOUT THE LAW THAT WILL HELP YOU MUCHO !!!
whicho
One more for you comadreja in my life i have meet ignorant people,
But you muy friend by far you and linda are some of the one's on top
of the list , the time has come , the time is here you will witness
the rise of a powerful icon world wide , in 3 months i will email you
and see how is your education and this guy has is in pre-production in
5 movies range 10 to 15m and this is just the start they are ready to
put (100 milions for their production company and all the money is
coming form mexico , Raul Julia Levy this guy my friend is a "genius
certified" you are not even close to he's level and he's range in any-
way... When people like you and linda talk so much crab about some-
body is because the guy is so big ( the more you talk , the more you
make him more famous , god or bad publicity is great my friend , and
when people talk , and talk is becuase you are so important , do you
know that acording to the suprime court and the constitutions of the
USA in order to probe paternity they need SAMPLES OF THE MOTHER , A
SAMPLE OF THE CHILD, AND A SAMPLE OF THE FATHER TO PROVE THEIR
CASE...... EDUCATE YOUR SELF MY FRIEND !!!!!!!!!! YOU CAN HAVE 7
DIFFERENT NAMES BUT THAT DON'T MEAN NOTHING .....IS CALL IS CALL DNA
AND EXUMATION , I REALY HOPE YOU GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND SEEK HELP NOW I
KNOW WHY YOU HIDE LIKE A COMADREJA !!!!!
BUENAS NOCHES MY FRIEND
Cali
> In article <1184312705.996072.82...@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> whicho <whichol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > in
> > 5 movies range 10 to 15m and this is just the start they are ready to
> > put (100 milions for their production company and all the money is
> > coming form mexico
>
> asshole by asking you specific questions about each film, but you will
> just continue to lie some more to cover up your other lies.
>
> It is over. I never heard of you until this thread started, and
> frankly you are a dime a dozen. You could had stop this years ago, but
> now you gotten to a point where the state is going to stop it, because
> you couldn't control yourself and put yourself in the middle of a
> criminal case, I don't think you realize what you done.
>
> When I see a source from Variety that Carlos Slim Domit has joined up
> with you, then I will give you some credence to one or two previous
> claims.
>
> Ciao...
The Abraham Levy claimed to be Raul Julia-Levy's grandfather has a dob
in 1886. However David Stern, Levi Strauss' brother-in-law, partner,
and father of Abraham Stern, died in 1874. Moreover, Abraham Stern
was born in San Francisco, not Morocco.
The S9 website has removed all mention of a relationship between
Abraham Levy and Raul Julia-Levy.
shockthemonkey
while looking for something unrelated to the case -- I must tell you
that Raul is a very hospitable and kind man.
I find it so hard to believe that you doubt he is the son of Raul
Julia. Take one look at the man and you can see it is his son. They
look very much alike. Raul Julia Levy is a stand up kind of guy -- and
follows through with
anything he puts into motion.
A man of his word.
He is producing a young girl vocalist I know that is 14 years old.
http://www.myspace.com/catiesings
Her family is very good and they would not befriend just anyone. Her
grandfather, singer & entertainer, Alberto Vazquez, is already very,
VERY famous in Mexico and he knows Raul quite well....there has been
NOTHING EVER to indicate that Raul is not an honest
man.
In fact, just the opposite -- he always goes to great lengths to do
whatever he says he will do.
Just thought I'd put in my two cents....for what it's worth.
Kiki
Kris Baker
"shockthemonkey" <kikisho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184352499.2...@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>I am a friend of Raul Julia-Levy and found this forum accidentally
> while looking for something unrelated to the case -- I must tell you
> that Raul is a very hospitable and kind man.
> I find it so hard to believe that you doubt he is the son of Raul
> Julia.
Actually, we don't care.
And QUIT nymshifting. That's the #1 clue that you're dishonest.
shockthemonkey
Quit WHAT???
I posted first in the wrong place - and re-posted here...
thanks...
Kiki
sally...@gmail.com
Apparently, everyone on here is a bit dishonest, as no one is being
"real". Here's what "unreal" me thinks, whether you care or not...
I think that you are a PAID person - a prosecution team hireling, as
it were - here to creat chaos, confusion and mayhem (sounds like a
legal firm name). I say this because I am familiar with such tactics,
having seen them before.
You are not on your game. Too transparent - overkill, so to speak -
Pardon the bad pun.
Kris Baker
<sally...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184355408....@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Really? You think THAT?
I'm so sorry for you.
Kris
If I were, you'd be smarter to hire me
sally...@gmail.com
> " I am finding it really sad, and he went to some lengths to try cover it
> up with more lies to placate people, like I was at first placated when I
> read his biography site. The problem with his mania, is that the lies
> got even bigger and more magnificent to satisfy his own ego. "
Reply:
This entire paragraph is hearsay. You have simply chosen to believe
one website over another.
In fact, most of what is one the www is b.s. anyway.
>
> "He is so reckless and out of control that he is willing to inject
> himself in a criminal case, knowingly to commit perjury, he won't be
> allowed to testify. "
Reply:
In fact he didn't inject himself - He got subpoenaed. His whereabouts
were unknown to the defense until they found someone who knew his
address.
"Even with all his fantasy stories, I haven't seen
> one little thing to connect him to Lana Clarkson. "
Reply:
Why would YOU be seeing that unless you are on the prosecution, the
defense or the JURY.
There is quite a bit connecting him to the victim.
" I haven't seen any
> evidence that other correlate to his scenario that he has stated that he
> dated Lana Clarkson."
Reply:
"Dated" might be a kind description. But AGAIN why would YOU be
entitled to SEE evidence about anything, And you're talking abut
Julia Levy's ego??? Wow! That is true chutzpah!
>
>"The problem for him is that he is going to receive a huge wake up call
> next week, when all the prosecution's findings are made public on TV. He
> is going to have a tough time handling it. If he gets thrown in Jail,
> it will be something else like an outstanding warrant."
Reply:
I see - so you are humble t.v. folk eager to see justice served. Your
ego is monumental -
It's great to see how you do that -- so much talk, so many words - so
little depth!
sally...@gmail.com
information.
I was recently informed that Salvador's statement will be made
available to the interested parties within a few days.
> Even with web snooping, it is nothing what the authorities can dig up.
> LA County DA has Salvador Alba's criminal record, they can go through
> national criminal databases, the FBI can asked the Mexican gov't what it
> has on Salvador, and Merel Poloway (Raul Julia's widow) will probably be
> more than happy to give the LA County DA, the private investigators
> reports on Salvador that she did a couple years back. The last thing
> whoever you are to worry about is rantings of people like me, who found
> so many holes in your lies throughout the years.... (Me gusta que "La
> Reforma" se pensiera quizas "uno de lo mas influencia personas en Latin
> America)
YOU NEED to not use a computer "translator". Those are "literal" and
often make meaningless chatter. Fortunately, I got the drift of your
translated gibberish. Stick to English. That kind of internet use
took you down a few notches.
>
> If you want to continue your delusions, go ahead. If you want to
> threaten a tort at me,fine by me. I feel pretty comfortable given that
> Sr. Salvador Alba craves the spotlight so much. I suggest he should
> look up Gertz v. Welch before he starts really issuing threats to me.
> that he has no problem with people commenting on his life and the story
> he made up. I can easily call up Harvard and ask if Salvador Alba aka
> RJL ever were enrolled there, and all your legal saber rattling would be
> for nothing.
ooooooooooh..boy! The only sabre rattling I hear is yours clanking in
the wind.
What is YOUR problema, chiquito? Come unas pasas hasta que te salga
el pu-pu que tienes empacado alli!
FragileWarrior
@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
> FYI, I am a close of RJL and Family.
I think we have a new entry for the list o' 'net lies!
Kris Baker
"FragileWarrior" <FragileWarrior@f'loonsmustdie.com> wrote in message
news:f7ad94$h9i$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
You think "I am a close" is a lie? Well, I personally believe
that she IS "a close". Something.
Kris
FragileWarrior
@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:
She definitely overshot being "a close" net 'tard.
Kris Baker
We know she wasn't "a close" to a school.
Must be that 14 year old singer she talked about.
Kids aren't good in third person singular.
Kris
fer...@gmail.com
COMADREJA:
hey compadre is me i use to be next door from you , you talk so much
shit about people you don't even know , but i think is time for people
to know how you are , and the charges you had in santa monica superior
court about 3 years ago for child molestation(Penal Code § 664/288) i
wont reveal you'r name , but i will probably post your criminal
record , do remember who im .....i know your sister to
fer...@gmail.com
do remember Daniel he use to work in downtown superior court as a
clerk , well now he's an attorney, and we talk about susan anyways ,
why don't you tell people realy about this case that you still are on
probation (Penal Code § 311.2-311.4) you are so fucking seek that
still don't know who i am ?
just in case people don't know is call ( Child Pornography)
fer...@gmail.com
computer's and server's for law enforcement , do you know who i am ,
or need a little help?
fer...@gmail.com
don't get in more problems with the law next time you will face life
fer...@gmail.com
fer...@gmail.com
fer...@gmail.com
fer...@gmail.com
fer...@gmail.com
COMADREJA
compadre i am not here to resolve your problems or your needs, i will
give you one more tip !! the day you where charge with (child
molestation) Penal Code § 664/288 i was with carlos talking about you
problem
you can not ask for so many wishes , i am trying to help you here and
this is the way you act compadre por-favor more control
Alan Williams
Do you really think these pathetic ad hominem posts of yours do anything
to rebut Comadrejo's claims?
Alan
Kris Baker
"Alan Williams" <nos...@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:469a3009$0$24746$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk...
You're using big words, with someone who can't even use
an apostrophe.
Kris Baker
<fer...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184482720.9...@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
We all know who you are: someone who failed third-grade
English class.
Alan Williams
I think the person that fer0gun is a sockpuppet for can probably read
and write English perfectly.
Alan
Kris Baker
Well.....based on the various entities, let's just say "probably"
is the operative word.
Kris
Kris Baker
"comadrejo" <comad...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:comadrejo-t-0BBF...@news.giganews.com...
> In article <qQqmi.1427$Dx2...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>,
> out of many countries for grammatical obscenity..
>
> I shouldn't respond to his trolls, but there are pretty laughable, and I
> wonder how much deeper they will dig this hole...
>
> All I know this is the IP address I am getting from his or her headers...
>
> dsl-189-143-31-103.prod-infinitum.com.mx
Aw, don't bother with that. They're popping up from everywhere,
so dialing in.
Alan Williams
There are some things that the sockpuppet does that make me suspicious.
The correct spelling of big words such as "superior" and "probably"
might be explained by a spellchecker, but that would also have picked up
"you'r" and "im". It also doesn't make common mistakes e.g. it uses
"know" rather than "now" or "no".
God, I must be bored - doing textual analysis of a deluded wannabe's
sockpuppet.
> Kris
Alan
Kris Baker
>
> There are some things that the sockpuppet does that make me suspicious.
> The correct spelling of big words such as "superior" and "probably" might
> be explained by a spellchecker, but that would also have picked up "you'r"
> and "im". It also doesn't make common mistakes e.g. it uses "know" rather
> than "now" or "no".
>
> God, I must be bored - doing textual analysis of a deluded wannabe's
> sockpuppet.
>
Oh, it's kinda fun. Like when you were little and toyed with that
bug on the sidewalk.
I think this one got boring fast, as it wasn't a bit creative.
Kris
nattys...@hotmail.com
http://www.topix.net/forum/movies/horror/T17GQ45BOMK54OF19
So many from the same city - AND read THIS. THis looks similar to
the sockpuppet posting here! This was posted a year ago MAY!!!!!!
SALVADOR ALBA
Irvine, CA
May 1, 2006
IS SHE STUPED OR WHAT?? A 13 YEAR OLD SAMPLE????? WHO IN THE WORLD IS
GOING TO TAKE T/ A PATERNITY TEST LIKE THAT????? AND THE Y CROMOSOMES
TEST IS JUST A NOTHER CRABBB I WORK FOR A DNA CLINIC I THINK SHE A
FRAUD I REALY FELL SAD FOR THE SON HE LOOKS JUST LIKE HE'S FATHER 100%
ANY WAY
SALVADOR ALBA
Kris Baker
<nattys...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184551547....@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> Look at this
>
> http://www.topix.net/forum/movies/horror/T17GQ45BOMK54OF19
>
> So many from the same city -
....and look at the dates. It's obvious someone goes over there
periodically, posts up a storm under different nyms, then forgets
to do it for awhile.
WHO on God's earth has heard of this guy, while he (supposedly)
has so many people of both sexes lusting after him. He's worse
than bland.
Copasetic
> In article <JdVki.671$n_6...@newsfe02.lga>,
> "Cliff and Linda Griffith" <grif...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> "comadreja" <comad...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:comadreja-t-924F...@news.giganews.com...
>> > Do you have a link or a reference of how Raul Julia-Levy is
>> > connected
>> > to this case? I know he tried to his hand at producing, which may get
>> > him some connection to Lana Clarkson, (she was also a girlfriend of a
>> > powerful record producer at one time or another, IIRC, I think Chris
>> > Blackwell of Island Records) but it is difficult to follow any
>> > connection for me.
>>
>> No, I have no link or URL. I was going from memory, regarding one of
>> Beth
>> Karas's reports this afternoon. I've Googled everything I can think of,
>> but
>> to no avail. There's a Beth Karas video at courttv.com, but it addresses
>> the testimony of the man who was called to remove Spector from two of
>> Joan
>> Rivers' holiday parties.
>>
>> Oh, wait! I did find something.
>> At http://boards.courttv.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=39, there is a
>> thread
>> entitled, "Raoul Julia-Levy, Jr.," but there's not a lot of background
>> info
>> there. The posters reported pretty much what I did, such as it was, and
>> they're wondering what this guy could say and/or if the Defense will
>> actually call him as a witness.
>
>
> Thank you for the link, I appreciate it. I have no idea, what the
> prosecution is insinuating, other that Raul Julia-Levy is sort of a like
> a copy of Dodi Fayed, and maybe not the son of Raul Julia...
>
The defense got to look at th 10 inch thick discovery report on Raul
Julia-Levy today.
http://thedarwinexception.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/ca-vs-spector-spank-my-babydol-and-call-me-julia/
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josel...@gmail.com
The real Julia Levy would really abort him if he had to