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Mary Winkler Update - M.S. Hoax?

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Michael Snyder

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Oct 6, 2010, 11:11:46 PM10/6/10
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Mary Winkler is now apparently suffering from Multiple Sclerosis. She is
not working, and is being supported by family money, and probably, state
assisitance. She lost the use of her right hand and foot for awhile,
although under the support of a physical therpist, she has recovered
fully. Although, apparently her eyes are also affected, so a desk job in
front of a computer is not an option either. Commenters have questioned
whether the condition is even genuine, as MS is notoriously easy to fake.

Watch her bright and sunny disposition while discussing her life, here
http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12417574.

Mary is the poster child for the sexist double standards of the legal
system and culture at large (the "gynocracy"). Basically, she killed her
husband in cold blood, and got away with a miniscule sentence and had
custody of her kids back in 2 years. Sordid details follow:

On March 22 2006, Mary woke up at 6:15am, walked to her closet, pulled
out a shotgun, and shot her sleeping husband in the back while he lay in
bed. The shotgun blast penetrated his spinal column and lungs, and he
was spitting blood bubbles as he rolled out of bed, asking "Why" and
attempting to crawl to the phone. Mary ripped the phone from the wall,
and left her husband to slowly die on the floor.

Their three young daughters were in the house with them at the time, and
the oldest came in to find out what was going on and what was wrong with
daddy. The 8-year old and the 6-year old actually saw their father lying
on the floor groaning. Mary hustled the three girls out of the house,
fleeing the state, taking the shotgun with her.

While on trial, Mary played the "abused wife" card. The dead husband, of
course, was unable to defend himself from the slanderous charge of being
a long-time physical, emotional, and sexual abuser. There were no
previous court records or police reports of any abuse, and the husband's
public esteem as a local minister was spotless. The 8-year old daughter
testified at the trial that her father had never been ugly to her mommy.
In her first statement to police, Mary specifically denied that her
husband had ever been abusive.

Nonetheless, she duped the jury into sympathy. Ten of the 12 jurors were
women, and at the first post-trial vote, 9 of those women voted to
acquit her of all charges. The voluntary manslaughter conviction was a
compromise verdict, and Mary ended up serving less than half a year in
prison, with some additional time in a mental institution.

Upon her release, she sued for custody of her three daughters, whom her
dead husband's parents had taken custody of. Within a year, she had
received custody (apparently with the grandparent's cooperation).

Pneuma

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Oct 7, 2010, 2:03:48 AM10/7/10
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 20:11:46 -0700, Michael Snyder <msn...@sonic.net>
wrote in:

> Commenters have questioned
> whether the condition is even genuine, as MS is notoriously easy to fake.

If she wanted to "fake" a disease she could just claim depression and
PTSD from the incident and get Social Security Disability with SSI for her
kids. There is no test for depression or PTSD except to just claim it to a
doctor and get anti-anxiety and depression medications to combat the
disease.
Besides we don't know what the kids received from the estate of her
husband and any benefits from the church he was a minister at.
As long as she was tried by a court and jury I don't have any problem
with the verdict or sentence. I don't know why anyone else should either.

IMHO.


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yD

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Oct 7, 2010, 3:36:13 PM10/7/10
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On Oct 7, 2:03 am, Pneuma <frank.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 20:11:46 -0700, Michael Snyder <msny...@sonic.net>

Cancer is the disease of choice for fraud. Given that there is
mediction for depression and that many sufferers can live and work, I
don't think she could get SSI for that alone, maybe with PTSD. But
given that she has custody of the children from the paternal paterents
suggests that they agree with the jury's decision, perhaps they were
aware of their son's proclivities.
yD

Mick

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Oct 7, 2010, 5:57:50 PM10/7/10
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Mary Winkler was dumb enough to lose $17,000 to a nigeraian net-
scammer.

I've suspected taht one reason besides the obivious gender-bias that
the legal system ws so soft on her might be that she might be really,
REALLY spupid. Like borderline retarded.

I'm not sure she would be bright enough to fake MS. I would be mroe
inclined to think she might develop psychosomatic symtoms from guilt.

Mick

yD

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Oct 8, 2010, 4:27:30 PM10/8/10
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You do remember she was found guilty of voluntary manslaughter -- the
sentence was imposed by the judge. I suspect the gender-bias is at
your end (pun intended). Did you see the shoes presented as evidence,
high-heeled shoes and a wig to which those in attendance gasped. Even
*his* parents gave up custody of the children so she has them now.
"...It's unclear why the Winkler's suddenly turned over custody of the
girls..."

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/Mary_Winkler_Gets_Daughters_BackyD

She's as likely to have MS as anybody else.
yD

bella

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Oct 8, 2010, 5:04:12 PM10/8/10
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"yD" <yaff...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d35e0ddf-60c6-48d1...@n26g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/Mary_Winkler_Gets_Daughters_BackyD


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The straw that broke the camel's back, so to say, was Winkler putting his
hand over the babies nose and mouth to stop her from crying, because he
didn't *like* crying babies. Numerous witnesses, both neighbors and church
people, testified about Matthew's *temper*, from Mary's black eyes and
swollen cheeks to Matthew threatening to shoot the neighbors dog.

I'll *see* your Mary Winkler and raise you an Eric McLean:

McLean gets 47 days in jail and probation, taken into custody

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/nov/07/mclean-sentence-decided/


bella


Pneuma

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Oct 8, 2010, 6:29:40 PM10/8/10
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 17:04:12 -0400, "bella" <tinyd...@biteme.com> wrote
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Hmm, If you play with fire you could get severely burned. Obviously this
stupid teenager didn't learn about sneaking around instead of getting in
the face of his lover's husband.

MGunch

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Oct 9, 2010, 9:35:22 AM10/9/10
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"Mick" <mc...@pitt.edu> wrote in message
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The Church of Christ prefers the women be dumb, really dumb, so they believe
all the crap fed to them. The smart ones leave the church.

MG


Michael Snyder

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Oct 9, 2010, 12:36:00 PM10/9/10
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On Oct 8, 2:04 pm, "bella" <tinydan...@biteme.com> wrote:

> I'll *see* your Mary Winkler and raise you an Eric McLean:

Tiny thinks this is a contest, to see which sex is better.
It's always been about "men bad, women good" to Tiny.

Michael Snyder

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Oct 9, 2010, 12:36:41 PM10/9/10
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On Oct 9, 6:35 am, "MGunch" <MGu...@nospam.net> wrote:

> The Church of Christ prefers the women be dumb, really dumb, so they believe
> all the crap fed to them.  

Men too, one would presume.

Nancy Rudins

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Oct 10, 2010, 2:12:34 PM10/10/10
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The men get to make and teach doctrine. Perhaps they're dumb,
but they're the ones in control.

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Michael Snyder

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Oct 10, 2010, 3:03:19 PM10/10/10
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Nancy Rudins wrote:
> On 10/09/2010 11:36 AM, Michael Snyder wrote:
>> On Oct 9, 6:35 am, "MGunch"<MGu...@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The Church of Christ prefers the women be dumb, really dumb, so they
>>> believe
>>> all the crap fed to them.
>>
>> Men too, one would presume.
>
> The men get to make and teach doctrine. Perhaps they're dumb,
> but they're the ones in control.

Just goes to show, you've never been to a southern church.

Of course, you make the same statement about our society in general,
and it's equally false there. Women exercise just as much control
over society as men do -- if not more.

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