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satisp...@my-deja.com

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this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
but i can't remember what it was called.

let's chat crime!

diana


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The book may have been Cold Kill. Cindy Ray and David West. Haven't read it
in a while but I will check it out again because I think the murder was his
idea. A case of "he said she said" and no one taking responsibility for the
idea.
D.
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GMSpider

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>this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
>wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
>but i can't remember what it was called.
>
>let's chat crime!
>
>diana
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
>
>
>
>
>
Are you sure you are not talking about the Rod Ferrall case in Florida?

Excerpt below

"Vampire" murderer is sentenced to death in Florida's electric chair

Washington Post, February 27, 1998.

By Donald P. Baker

MIAMI -- A 17-year-old youth who proclaims he is a vampire and admitted
murdering a middle-aged couple with a crowbar was sentenced Friday to die in
Florida's electric chair by a judge who called him "a disturbed young man" who
proves "there is genuine evil in the world."

"There is a dark side and light side competing in each of us," declared Lake
County Circuit Judge Jerry Lockett in handing down the death penalty against
Rodrick Justin Ferrell.


Ferrell, of Murray, Ky., admitted killing Richard Wendorf and Naoma Queen in
their home in Eustis, Fla., 35 miles northwest of Orlando, on Nov. 25, 1996.
The letter "V", apparently for vampire, was burned into Wendorf's body.

Ferrell said he and three friends, who also called themselves vampires,
traveled to Eustis from Kentucky after Heather Wendorf, whom he had met when
both were students in Eustis, asked him to help steal her parents' sports
utility vehicle so she could run away from home. Prosecutors said she intended
to join a group headed by Ferrell that engaged in group sex and drank blood as
part of what members considered vampire rituals.


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Roger Redding

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satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:

>this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
>wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
>but i can't remember what it was called.
>

From
http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2000-01-06/news.html

An article about an attorney named Roy Beene (really!) which is
interesting enough in its own right. You might want to skip
over the paragraph which begins "Garbage would...."

The book may have been "Daddy's Girl" by Clifford Irving,
also mentioned in the article.

...................................................................................................
For three weeks in 1986 Beene represented Cynthia Campbell
Ray. She and accomplice David West were later convicted of
murdering her parents while they slept in their posh Memorial
home. Ray got a life prison term in that case -- and Beene got her
house as a legal fee.

Hunt says Ray never forgave Beene for the exorbitant cost of his
brief representation. "The rumor around prison was that the first
thing that she was going to do if she ever got out was to kill Roy
Beene."
..............................................................................................
>let's chat crime!
>
There's a novel concept!

Roger

MizPilch

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>Subject: whatever happened to cynthia campbell ray?

Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Date: TUE 09/14/93
Section: A
Page: 13
Edition: 2 STAR

Mastermind of parents' murders up for parole

By STEFANIE ASIN
Staff


Cynthia Campbell Ray , in prison for plotting the heinous murder of her wealthy
parents, is up for parole after serving eight years of a life sentence.

Ray was convicted in 1987 for convincing her boyfriend David West to shoot her
parents, James and Virginia Campbell . The murders still are notorious in Texas
because of the unusual circumstances surrounding the plot and the arrests of
Ray and West. The case received national attention and was the subject of two
books, Daddy's Girl by Clifford Irving, and Cold Kill by Jack Olsen.

After eight years in prison, including time spent in jail before her
conviction, Ray has accummulated enough "good time" credit to be eligible for
parole, and the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles is reviewing Ray 's case for
the first time. The board will issue its decision by the end of the year.

After this article there is no reference to her again in the Chronicle about
her status. I don't remember her being released though so sh'e probably still
in prison.
--
"I am not the editor of a newspaper and shall always try to do right and be
good, so that God will not make me one" -- Mark Twain
... alas, I failed and I am one! Debbie

glas

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"D." <bou...@attcanada.net> wrote in message
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| The book may have been Cold Kill. Cindy Ray and David West. Haven't read
it
| in a while but I will check it out again because I think the murder was
his
| idea. A case of "he said she said" and no one taking responsibility for
the
| idea.
| D.


If a certain true crime author hadn't been so viciously chased out of this
newsgroup you could probably have gotten an update on this case from one of
the people that knows the story best.

glas <- still bitter
--
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| satisp...@my-deja.com wrote in message <8k9mn3$n89$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

| >this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
| >wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
| >but i can't remember what it was called.
| >

PattyC4303

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In article <j_Ya5.2845$qx4....@newsfeed.slurp.net>, "glas"
<glas.HA...@donet.com> writes:

>"D." <bou...@attcanada.net> wrote in message
>news:JJ%95.26049$qS3....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
>| The book may have been Cold Kill. Cindy Ray and David West. Haven't read
>it
>| in a while but I will check it out again because I think the murder was
>his
>| idea. A case of "he said she said" and no one taking responsibility for
>the
>| idea.
>| D.
>
>
>If a certain true crime author hadn't been so viciously chased out of this
>newsgroup you could probably have gotten an update on this case from one of
>the people that knows the story best.
>
>glas <- still bitter

I meant to reply to this thread the other day. I luckily was able to get a
copy of Cold Kill from a kind friend. It was indeed a VERY good book. I'd
read the Irving book first, but this one (by Jack Olsen) is more and better on
every level.

I went to the beach with my family last week and took Cold Kill along. My
sister devoured it during the week, and totally enjoyed it also. My mom took
it home with her. My sister had the same questions about Cindy ... what on
EARTH was her story? How on earth did she make it through her days? A totally
odd character even without the murder included!

As an aside, I went to a used book store while there. Found Predator and Son,
both of which I've read, but bought both. I am reading Predator now, but
having trouble continuing. Man, that story, with the falsely accused guy
ending up such a mess.. just makes me DAMN sad.

I wish there were still good true crime books like the above happening.

PattyC

seria...@uswest.net

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No, she is talking about Cindy Campbell and David West. There are two
books on the case, Cold Kill and Daddy's Girl. Definately not the same
as the Rod Farrell case.

Bonnie

satisp...@my-deja.com

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In article <j_Ya5.2845$qx4....@newsfeed.slurp.net>,

"glas" <glas.HA...@donet.com> wrote:
> "D." <bou...@attcanada.net> wrote in message
> news:JJ%95.26049$qS3....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> | The book may have been Cold Kill. Cindy Ray and David West. Haven't
read
> it
> | in a while but I will check it out again because I think the murder
was
> his
> | idea. A case of "he said she said" and no one taking responsibility
for
> the
> | idea.
> | D.
>
> If a certain true crime author hadn't been so viciously chased out of
this
> newsgroup you could probably have gotten an update on this case from
one of
> the people that knows the story best.
>
> glas <- still bitter
> --
> True Crime WebSite can be found here -
> http://www.donet.com/~truecrime/
>
> "A good friend will help you move...
> A REAL friend will help you move a body."
>
> | satisp...@my-deja.com wrote in message
<8k9mn3$n89$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> | >this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents.
i
> | >wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about
this
> | >but i can't remember what it was called.
> | >
> | >let's chat crime!
> | >
> | >diana

if it's okay to ask, which author? i was looking through my stuff and i
remember reading two books, one by jack olsen (cold kill) and another by
clifford irving (daddy's girl). i thought both books were quite good,
each tackling the case differently.

diana

satisp...@my-deja.com

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In article <20000712192601...@nso-bj.aol.com>,

patty...@aol.com (PattyC4303) wrote:
> In article <j_Ya5.2845$qx4....@newsfeed.slurp.net>, "glas"
> <glas.HA...@donet.com> writes:
>
> >"D." <bou...@attcanada.net> wrote in message
> >news:JJ%95.26049$qS3....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> >| The book may have been Cold Kill. Cindy Ray and David West. Haven't
read
> >it
> >| in a while but I will check it out again because I think the murder
was
> >his
> >| idea. A case of "he said she said" and no one taking responsibility
for
> >the
> >| idea.
> >| D.
> >
> >
> >If a certain true crime author hadn't been so viciously chased out of
this
> >newsgroup you could probably have gotten an update on this case from
one of
> >the people that knows the story best.
> >
> >glas <- still bitter
>
> I meant to reply to this thread the other day. I luckily was able to
get a
> copy of Cold Kill from a kind friend. It was indeed a VERY good book.
I'd
> read the Irving book first, but this one (by Jack Olsen) is more and
better on
> every level.

i'm a big fan of jack olsen (in fact i am currently listening to the
gypsy murder case on unabridged audio); however, i think daddy's girl is
not without merit. irving knows how to think like a criminal and his
methods of investigation, while dubious to some, bring out fascinating
information about the case. i do feel for the plight of boyfriend david
(as irving put it, 'betrayed is too pale a word'). but david was
antisocial and scary (ready to kill over the reposession of his car
which came about by his own neglect/laziness). i recall jack olsen
ending his book with david keeping his chin up to make his parents
proud, and, no doubt, he loved his parents (ted bundy loved his mother).
still, the man had a severe empathy deficit and was a danger to society.
in that respect, irving seemed to have a better grasp on david's
character, enjoying david's wit and his antics, but at the same time,
respectful and cautious of the psychopathic tendencies behind that
gullible-boy charm. jack olsen is great, but irving is a force to be
reckoned with. too bad he hasn't covered more true crime stuff.

> I went to the beach with my family last week and took Cold Kill along.
My
> sister devoured it during the week, and totally enjoyed it also. My
mom took
> it home with her. My sister had the same questions about Cindy ...
what on
> EARTH was her story? How on earth did she make it through her days?
A totally
> odd character even without the murder included!

that's what i wonder, too. irving gets into her bizarre hygiene (or
should i say the lack thereof). i do wonder about cindy; i would be
interested in writing to her.

satisp...@my-deja.com

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In article <3968ca0d...@news.mindspring.com>,
rred...@mindspring.com wrote:

> satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents.
i
> >wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about
this
> >but i can't remember what it was called.
> >
> From
> http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2000-01-06/news.html
>
> An article about an attorney named Roy Beene (really!) which is
> interesting enough in its own right. You might want to skip
> over the paragraph which begins "Garbage would...."
>
> The book may have been "Daddy's Girl" by Clifford Irving,

> also mentioned in the article.
>
>
........................................................................
...........................
> For three weeks in 1986 Beene represented Cynthia Campbell
> Ray. She and accomplice David West were later convicted of
> murdering her parents while they slept in their posh Memorial
> home. Ray got a life prison term in that case -- and Beene got her
> house as a legal fee.
>
> Hunt says Ray never forgave Beene for the exorbitant cost of his
> brief representation. "The rumor around prison was that the first
> thing that she was going to do if she ever got out was to kill Roy
> Beene."
>
........................................................................
......................
> >let's chat crime!
> >
> There's a novel concept!
>
> Roger
heh. killing all the lawyers. <g>

that info kind of makes cynthia sound like a rage freak looking for an
open vessel.

thanks for sharing it.

please let me know if you have anything more.

diana
loves to chat crime!

satisp...@my-deja.com

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In article <20000709142904...@ng-fe1.aol.com>,

mizp...@aol.com (MizPilch) wrote:
> >Subject: whatever happened to cynthia campbell ray?
>
> Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
> Date: TUE 09/14/93
> Section: A
> Page: 13
> Edition: 2 STAR
>
> Mastermind of parents' murders up for parole
>
> By STEFANIE ASIN
> Staff
>
> Cynthia Campbell Ray , in prison for plotting the heinous murder of
her wealthy
> parents, is up for parole after serving eight years of a life
sentence.

interesting that she was up after only eight years. wonder how long
david will be in jail by comparison. they both went to the killing
scene and i'm pretty sure it was cynthia's idea to begin with. cases
like this make me wonder about the biases inherent in the system that
run against the welfare of men.

>
> After eight years in prison, including time spent in jail before her
> conviction, Ray has accummulated enough "good time" credit to be
eligible for
> parole, and the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles is reviewing Ray 's
case for
> the first time. The board will issue its decision by the end of the
year.
>
> After this article there is no reference to her again in the Chronicle
about
> her status. I don't remember her being released though so sh'e
probably still
> in prison.

thank you for sharing that. elizabeth haysom was also denied parole
though she is reported to be a model prisoner.

diana


> --
> "I am not the editor of a newspaper and shall always try to do right
and be
> good, so that God will not make me one" -- Mark Twain
> ... alas, I failed and I am one! Debbie
>

PattyC4303

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In article <8kkdtb$agp$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, satisp...@my-deja.com writes:

>i'm a big fan of jack olsen (in fact i am currently listening to the
>gypsy murder case on unabridged audio); however, i think daddy's girl is
>not without merit. irving knows how to think like a criminal and his
>methods of investigation, while dubious to some, bring out fascinating
>information about the case. i do feel for the plight of boyfriend david
>(as irving put it, 'betrayed is too pale a word'). but david was
>antisocial and scary (ready to kill over the reposession of his car
>which came about by his own neglect/laziness). i recall jack olsen
>ending his book with david keeping his chin up to make his parents
>proud, and, no doubt, he loved his parents (ted bundy loved his mother).
>still, the man had a severe empathy deficit and was a danger to society.
>in that respect, irving seemed to have a better grasp on david's
>character, enjoying david's wit and his antics, but at the same time,
>respectful and cautious of the psychopathic tendencies behind that
>gullible-boy charm. jack olsen is great, but irving is a force to be
>reckoned with. too bad he hasn't covered more true crime stuff.


As previously noted, I read the Irving book first. Obviiously enjoyed it some,
since I came on here asking questions, and wanted to read more. Was glad to be
reminded by glas about Cold Kill.

BUT... while I found the Irving book interesting. It troubled me in many ways.
I found his insertion/discussion of himself, his "role" in the trial self
serving.. .or something. I guess, if he was called to the stand, he might find
that worth mentioning in the book. BUT .. thought he gave that rather minor
episode way too much "air time." I also wondered at his constant mentioning OF
Jack Olsen's presence, contacts with parties involved.. *odd.* It rang of
jealousy to me. Again, left me feeling I was learning too much about Irving,
and not enough about the STORY.

Obviously (least it seemed to me), Irving had access to the private detective
lady. While that was interesting, I was way more interested in Cindy than
David (his "type" seems rather an obvious one... back to don't date a guy
reading Soldier of Fortune.. or at least don't mention to him you might want
someone dead...). The story of how the detective got David to spill his guts
was interesting (how many times can I use that word.. just the only one that
fits, meaning it wasn't *fascinating* to me...). BUT.. thought that was a
little side story unto itself, the real murder story was more what I wanted to
hear about.

I guess... and this is a predjudice on my part.... Irving's past as an author,
IMHO, makes him less credible in general. If he lied to readers once, what's
to say the latest is all fact?

As noted, I like the Irving book ok, just thought the Olsen book was more an
objective and real true crime book.

Oh by the way, David did love Mom, huh? Beat her up when she would not loan
him money, then after the fuss on that, she LENDS him the money.... Duh. Some
parents are really really dense.

Forgive me, I know you mentioned this before, but admit I sort of skipped over
it. Why are you wanting to write to the killer?

PattyC

satisp...@my-deja.com

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In article <20000713235403...@nso-fa.aol.com>,

good point. it was self-serving and he did go a bit overboard in
recounting it. if memory serves, didn't he even put a picture of
himself on the stand? and, he did take a few cheap shots at olsen.
olsen ignored irving. i guess we could give irving the dubious credit
of being more open about his bad feelings. and, i found irving's whole
volume to be obsessively recountive, which, i liked. i remember some
line about irving wanting to hash and rehash the case over icy vodka
tonics or something. so, in fairness to irving he was obsessive about
the whole case and not just his part in it. he reported about the story
a plenty.

> Obviously (least it seemed to me), Irving had access to the private
detective
> lady. While that was interesting, I was way more interested in Cindy
than
> David (his "type" seems rather an obvious one... back to don't date a
guy
> reading Soldier of Fortune.. or at least don't mention to him you
might want
> someone dead...).

totally. david was not the most intriguing character to me either.
and, i felt that olsen kind of romanticized him a bit. whereas irving
saw him for what he was. i remember olsen's book ending with some
comment about david 'being strong' and not wanting to let his family
down, etc. irving seemed to have a better handle on the fact that hey,
this guy needs to be in a cage. end of story. but, i was only about 13
when i read the book, so, it's been awhile. please feel free to call me
to task if i am practicing selective memory.

The story of how the detective got David to spill
his guts
> was interesting (how many times can I use that word.. just the only
one that
> fits, meaning it wasn't *fascinating* to me...). BUT.. thought that
was a
> little side story unto itself, the real murder story was more what I
wanted to
> hear about.

i kind of go in the reverse direction on this one. patricide cases
involving daughters seem to unravel in the same way... she talks a guy
into doing what she is too queasy to do herself, she either lies or does
not lie about the incest which she never fails to mention, and, the guy
gets a tougher sentence.

to me, the private eye made this case more distinct and it was very
interesting. my personal opinion was that this kim chick was a bitch in
the true linda tripp sense of the word; she was selfish and mercenary
and not above turning a few tricks. i didn't see her as being out to
save the day so much as being interested in making a few quick and easy
bucks. and, i seem to remember olsen describing how kim was so upset
after david was caught and to me now that echoes of linda tripp's saying
that all she wanted to do now was be able to give monica a hug.


> I guess... and this is a predjudice on my part.... Irving's past as
an author,
> IMHO, makes him less credible in general. If he lied to readers once,
what's
> to say the latest is all fact?

absolutely. his credibility is shot. this is unfortunate, and, he
brought that on himself. i don't feel sorry for him but i am pissed
that his self-sabotage is probably what is preventing him from turning
out more true crime books now because i'm still intrigued with his
reporting work and i'd love to see what he'd be able to drag in, for
example, about the menendez murders.

i personally believe that cynthia was sexually abused. i don't know how
much i believe about irving's secret source, which could have been
cynthia's attorney but who knows. and, bottom line is a credible source
could swear on a stack of Bibles but cynthia could have lied to that
source. to me olsen seemed a little to quick to paint good guys and bad
guys. irving himself admitted that his story needed a hero, but the
fact remained that the well meaning prosecutor was probably career
focused and a victim of his own good guy bias, and, david's parents were
a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic and even if irving made up
'dirty jim' he probably did molest his daughter. i appreciate the fact
that two very good authors wrote on this subject. they probably
inadvertently sharpened each other in what became a tale twice told of a
world gone bad.

> As noted, I like the Irving book ok, just thought the Olsen book was
more an
> objective and real true crime book.

i would say olsen was more objective and irving was more accurate. i'd
love to see both of them attack the same case again.

> Oh by the way, David did love Mom, huh? Beat her up when she would
not loan
> him money, then after the fuss on that, she LENDS him the money....
Duh. Some
> parents are really really dense.

aw, david just had a peculiar way of expressing his love. <g>

i suspect his parents had a few loving idiosyncracies of their own.

> Forgive me, I know you mentioned this before, but admit I sort of
skipped over
> it. Why are you wanting to write to the killer?
>
> PattyC

i'd rather not write to her myself, but, i can't help but be curious
about what's going on with cynthia.

diana

diana

satisp...@my-deja.com

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i just made this whole long response to you but if it's okay i wanted to
add one more thing about the differences between olsen and irving. i
prefer irving as an author, but i'd never let him date my mom. and, i'd
say the reverse about olsen.

PattyC4303

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In article <8kms7v$51b$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, satisp...@my-deja.com writes:

>i personally believe that cynthia was sexually abused.

This is interesting. I don't think so, though not sure why. Certainly in some
families, only one child is abused. Wish Jack Olsen still hung around to
answer questions like this.. that is, why he apparently did not buy that.

I just think Cindy was born nuts.

PattyC

PattyC4303

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In article <8kmsl4$5c0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, satisp...@my-deja.com writes:

>i just made this whole long response to you but if it's okay i wanted to
>add one more thing about the differences between olsen and irving. i
>prefer irving as an author, but i'd never let him date my mom. and, i'd
>say the reverse about olsen.
>
>diana

:) Diana,

I am guessing I am closer to your mom's age than yours. I would rather read
AND "date" Jack Olsen! IF he were available of course!!

PattyC

satisp...@my-deja.com

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In article <20000714201436...@nso-fo.aol.com>,

the unfortunate thing about my mom is that if jack olsen were available
the two of you would never have to fight over him because my mom never
seems to go for well adjusted and honest men. she would go for irving.
ah well. :)

*sigh*

Patty

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PattyC wrote:
:
: >i personally believe that cynthia was sexually abused.

:
: This is interesting. I don't think so, though not sure why. Certainly in
some
: families, only one child is abused. Wish Jack Olsen still hung around to
: answer questions like this.. that is, why he apparently did not buy that.
:
: I just think Cindy was born nuts.
:
: PattyC
:
Barbara wrote
: I missed the beginning of this but it's true that in some families only
one
: child is abused. I dont really know why.
:

I saw a program once on this and the psychologist/family counselor said
often a parent beats
the child that reminds them most of themself.

Every9man

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Jul 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/16/00
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From: patty...@aol.com (PattyC4303)

In article <8kms7v$51b$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, satisp...@my-deja.com writes:

>i personally believe that cynthia was sexually abused.

This is interesting. I don't think so, though not sure why. Certainly in some
families, only one child is abused. Wish Jack Olsen still hung around to
answer questions like this.. that is, why he apparently did not buy that.

I just think Cindy was born nuts.

PattyC


I missed the beginning of this but it's true that in some families only one
child is abused. I dont really know why.

Barbara
Dont panic anyone--it's me I am using an old screen name.


boosie...@gmail.com

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Feb 18, 2013, 8:10:30 PM2/18/13
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She`s at the women's max security prison n gatesville...I was there w her for a couple of years

ladyn...@att.net

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Apr 14, 2013, 2:35:33 AM4/14/13
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On Sunday, July 9, 2000 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
> wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
> but i can't remember what it was called.
>
> let's chat crime!
>
> diana
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

The name of the book I just finished about the crime is called "Daddy's Girl". I found on Yahoo search that her parole in 2007 was turned down and she's still incarcerated. I think she's in Gatesville.

delr...@gmail.com

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Sep 29, 2013, 10:42:52 PM9/29/13
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On Sunday, July 9, 2000 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
> wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
> but i can't remember what it was called.
>
> let's chat crime!
>
> diana
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
DADDY'S GIRL: The Campbell Murder Case : A True Tale of Vengeance, Betrayal, and Texas Justice by Clifford Irving
http://www.amazon.ca/DADDYS-GIRL-Campbell-Vengeance-ebook/dp/B00789SRB0

delr...@gmail.com

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Sep 29, 2013, 10:43:24 PM9/29/13
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On Sunday, July 9, 2000 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, D. wrote:
> The book may have been Cold Kill. Cindy Ray and David West. Haven't read it
> in a while but I will check it out again because I think the murder was his
> idea. A case of "he said she said" and no one taking responsibility for the
> idea.
> D.
> satisp...@my-deja.com wrote in message <8k9mn3$n89$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

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Feb 13, 2015, 9:38:04 PM2/13/15
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On Sunday, July 9, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
> wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
> but i can't remember what it was called.
>
> let's chat crime!
>
> diana
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



On Sunday, July 9, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
> wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
> but i can't remember what it was called.
>
> let's chat crime!
>
> diana
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



On Sunday, July 9, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
> wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
> but i can't remember what it was called.
>
> let's chat crime!
>
> diana
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



On Sunday, July 9, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
> wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
> but i can't remember what it was called.
>
> let's chat crime!
>
> diana
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

on the prisonpenpals website she was there with a blurb that made her sound totally crazy but i havent seen it for awhile--wonder if she is out already? jack olsen passed away a few yrs ago.......he wrote Doc the rape of the town of Lovell, excellent book
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shanno...@yahoo.com

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May 27, 2015, 6:19:12 AM5/27/15
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I just googled whether they were still incarcerated and found a link to the Texas Tribune prison database. They both popped up as still incarcerated. He is 59 now and she is 60.

shanno...@yahoo.com

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May 27, 2015, 6:21:40 AM5/27/15
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May 27, 2015, 6:47:17 PM5/27/15
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On Sunday, July 9, 2000 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
> wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
> but i can't remember what it was called.
>
> let's chat crime!
>
> diana
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

The name of the book was "Daddy's Girl" by Clifford Irving...Go to his official website, he is offering all of his books for $2.99, and I think they are available as E-Books for Kindle, etc. I've read two of his fiction crime novels- "Trial" and "Final Argument" They were both great.

elcor...@gmail.com

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Jun 3, 2015, 9:30:24 PM6/3/15
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On Sunday, July 9, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
> wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
> but i can't remember what it was called.
>
> let's chat crime!
>
> diana
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

book was titled "daddy's girl"

daphne....@gmail.com

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Jun 4, 2015, 1:52:29 AM6/4/15
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I also am wondering where Cindy is. After she was first arrested I was in the Harris county jail and 'babysat' her on suicide watch. I used to brush her hair and she would sing. She had an amazing voice. I never knew what she was in for, only that she was charged with murder.

jackie.s...@gmail.com

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Jun 6, 2015, 5:10:12 PM6/6/15
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She begged him for well over a year to kill them because, she says, that her father had been sexually molesting her for many years. David, who had fallen in love with Cynthia, while helping her lose weight and feel better about herbself, felt that in the end this was the only way to save the woman he koved. He had never ever had a record or been in trouble for anything. Her own family said she was a problem. ...which rings true when you leave your kids with their grandparents all the time. Once she lost all her weight and became popular, she wanted nothing to do with him. She would come around here and there to beg him. What he did was wrong but I feel really bad for him because I believe whole heartedly that he truly did love her and thought this was the only way to end her torment.

ron.le...@gmail.com

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Jul 15, 2015, 4:25:44 AM7/15/15
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I was personally involved with both David and Cindy. David introduced me to Cindy when we all attended the U of St. Thomas. I dated her for a few months just prior to the murders. She was thin and beautiful at the time. I've often thought my dumping her precipitated this in a way because they did it so soon afterwards. After the break-up, I was getting a lot of calls and hang-ups and knew it was her. The only number I had for her was David's house (she lived for a short time in the downstairs apartment). When I called it, he answered and angrily told me to never try to contact her again. It was strange. And she had told me a wild, and untrue, story of her dad being a mob attorney. Makes me think she was planning the murder even then and practicing her false accusations.

She's still in prison when I last checked a couple of years ago.

She was actually a very talented artist. And a good actor. Never told me about her children. Claimed to be a virgin. I broke up because she was crazy, but I didn't know how crazy at the time. I'm probably lucky she and David didn't kill me. Kinda thought the investigation would get to me at some point, although I couldn't have added much. But I never heard from them. It did surprise me when I heard that she and, especially, David were involved. And boy did he get punked by the detective.

ron.le...@gmail.com

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Jul 15, 2015, 4:30:53 AM7/15/15
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BTW, I have no doubt it was her idea. David wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed and based on all the lies she told me and the crazy mood swings I witnessed, she was very capable of plotting this.

david.k....@gmail.com

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Jul 18, 2015, 8:55:49 PM7/18/15
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On Sunday, July 9, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
> wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
> but i can't remember what it was called.
>
> let's chat crime!
>
> diana
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Clifford Irving's 'Daddy's Girl'

thal...@gmail.com

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Aug 6, 2015, 12:24:46 AM8/6/15
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I knew David a little from Rudyard's. He and another guy helped me with my car once when it broke down. He also helped me when this guy at the bar was bothering me. He gave me a ride to my car once after my ride got really drunk. He invited me out for breakfast but I was tired and didn't go. That was around Christmas. I left for a month and I got back and he had been arrested

jillian...@gmail.com

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Sep 21, 2015, 1:28:08 PM9/21/15
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She's still in prison you can search Cindy Ray in Texas inmate search

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Oct 17, 2015, 1:19:16 AM10/17/15
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Cynthia Campbell Ray
TDCJ ID 00453302
Unit: Young
Race White
Height 5 ft 4 in
Weight 304 lbs
Hair Color Brown
Eye Color Brown
The name of the book was probably, "Daddy's Girl"

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Jan 31, 2016, 9:35:23 PM1/31/16
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I was actually locked up with her. I see the picture that is on the Internet and it looks nothing like her. She is well over 300 pounds. She is at the Mountainview unit in Gatesville. She has absolutely no remorse for what she did and she was so mad when they denied her parole a few years back

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Jun 21, 2016, 3:41:07 PM6/21/16
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It was called Daddy's Girl. I read it a long time ago.

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Jul 29, 2016, 4:10:11 PM7/29/16
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On Sunday, July 9, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
> wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
> but i can't remember what it was called.
>
> let's chat crime!
>
> diana
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

My friend Robin was David's roommate when this happened. IT was Cynthia's idea...she used him to commit the murders...he did it because she convinced him she had been abused by her parents. Poor little rich girl syndrome. Read the book. Its a great read. The house has since been torn down. Have a great day!

toot...@aol.com

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Oct 4, 2016, 11:15:36 AM10/4/16
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It's called daddy's
girl

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Oct 10, 2016, 10:30:27 PM10/10/16
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She is at Carole young med facility I was incarcerated with het
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Sep 26, 2017, 3:42:04 PM9/26/17
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I came here because I was curious. I've read both Cold Kill and Daddy's Girl a couple of times. Cold Kill is the much better book, imo. Clifford Irving's Daddy's Girl was less fun, partly because the really annoying know-it-all Irving inserts himself as a character in the drama (if you are ever a witness, never go out for drinks with an author writing about the trial), and secondly, it was mostly a rehash of the trials. Olsen's account is of the events as they occurred before and after the murders, and you get a more you-are-there sense of how things happened. Irving says he thinks Cindy was sexually abused, but Cindy was ALWAYS saying that people were putting the moves on her. She would use that as her standard excuse to quit every job she ever got.
Last I heard she was still in prison. I haven't seen anything about her being released, and I've looked. Haunting case.

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On Sunday, July 9, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, satisp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> this was a case in texas. she persuaded a guy to kill her parents. i
> wonder where she is incarcerated. i read a fascinating book about this
> but i can't remember what it was called.
>
> let's chat crime!
>
> diana
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

she is in the Carole Young medical unit in Dickinson, Texas (TDC)

chriistina....@gmail.com

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Dec 30, 2019, 10:55:19 PM12/30/19
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She’s at lane Murray now

mongo

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Dec 31, 2019, 1:27:59 AM12/31/19
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On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 10:55:19 PM UTC-5, chriistina...@gmail.com wrote:
> She’s at lane Murray now

5 ft 4 in tall and 270 lbs, yikes!!!!

https://www.texastribune.org/library/data/texas-prisons/inmates/cynthia-campbell-ray/1144895/
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